Otherkin?

[Armitage]

I've been finding lots of sites about this subject lately and was wondering what the basic opinion/theory was around here...I'm not sure whether to take this as possible, delusional or something people say to feel different.
The idea, basically, is that these people who call themselves this feel that they are in a human body, but have the souls of things like weres and dragons and fae. Like I said, it sounds at first, to my skeptical side, like something made up to make people feel they have clout, and I apologize beforehand to anyone here who might be offended by that.
I also didn't know where to put this, so if it belongs elsewhere I'll eventually find it again. ^_^

[Yvonne Belisle]

Who is to say that there are not overlaping realities in which these things are found? If we take this as true then we can next ask if there would be idividuals who were connected with both realities. The stories of fae and vampires and were's are found all over the globe. They are similar to a frightening degree when you figure that there was no way to conduct information over the globe instantaniously. A large number of these tales are fromthe same time period. A theory could then be that these realities are closer to each other at various times in history. The theory can also then be that some poeple are better able to feel that reality then others. I do not believe we are scientifically ready to prove or disprove such ideas yet but perhaps someday we shall be able to do so.

[Kaylara]

If you are looking for info on the otherkin, you can visit www.otherkin.net

;)

Kaylara

[Fawn]

From the sites I visited that have these on there--I assumed it was a form of role playing. (ok that's just my save version too:p )

[Armitage]

Kaylara: I have. I was actually hoping to see if someone here had experiences themselves or knew people that did.

[gunner]

this is interesting! as said so many of those legends are world wide in recognisable form. as well there is the "trickster god", loki, coyote, etc., flood legends, and a near universal belief in some form of reincarnation. (old george s. patton used to raise the hair on the necks of his aides in north africa when he would stand at the scene of a punic war battle and describe it in the first person singular.)

[Ozymandias]

I've devoted half my life to studying these kinds of legends. While there is no proof that those on the internet are true I have documented the existance of some. Hollywood is way off but it's interesting anyway. anybody interested e-mail me.

[Yvonne Belisle]

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[MistOfTheSea86]

You know I have never heard about people like this. It is strange but form what i have learned not impossible nor implausible. I have a friend name Sam. SHe is my age. And her friend, which I might add is terribly telepathic, Clariovouyent. Told her that she was The goddess Gaia herself. The most Far-fetched Idea I have ever heard. But it does make you wonder. Who Knows?

Also I do not find it impossible. For most young Wiccans IMHO They feel that they may not be human, or how could they be part of the hateful ridiculing society? I do not mean to sound rude. But from the wiccans I have met. There was this strange superiority that We all have felt. Pherhaps It is because We know we are part of the goddess or because we are more in touch with ourselves at a much quicker age. And also who knows... Pherhaps we could have been an elf or fairy or alien in our past life.

[Silver Venus]

I once read a magazine article in Cosmo about five girls who believed themselves to be fae from when they were little ~ they all were friends in real life and had found eachother by coincidence. They wore wings all the time ~ bed, work and out! and often went up to other girls who were wearing wings asking if they were thinking alike... I thought it was strange but sounded lots of fun and belived in them/ or them believing in themselves.
I think people can have different souls ~ dont know how or why but I do believe :p

[Élistariel]

I'm actually a member of otherkin.com or.net I'm not an otherkin per se/say. I have no 'memories' of being anything other than human. For me, it's more of a personality thing. It's sort of like a way to define yourself. That's just my opinion though. I have had dreams that definately weren't on Earth though. And I occasionally (mentally) speak in some odd language. I also had a short phrase stuck in my head over xmas. I wrote it down somewhere. But can't find it, dang it. I believe some there really do have the souls of dragons and elves, and some are just full of 'it'.

[Pan]

I believe in Otherkin. Heck, I believe I *am* Otherkin. ;)

I used to belong to a few mailing lists that were otherkin-based, but eventually I let it die.. the conversations just got too off-topic of Otherkin.

I'm open to questions as to why I believe and all that stuff.. I just thought I should add my bit.

[Morgandria]

*waves* Another friendly neighbourhood Otherkin.

As with everything, you get a mixed bag. There are people who have done serious spiritual journeying to arrive at the conclusion they are 'Kin, some who aren't sure and are exploring, and then there are always the people who see being "Other" as a way to make themselves feel better, or more important.

Thanks to the fact that there are a lot of kids "growing up" online these days, who can read and copy HTML and spout jargon, there are a lot more perhaps not-so-Otherkin people out there - and maybe for them it is a fun roleplaying experience, or an ego trip. But there are a good number of serious, adult, intelligent, well-educated people, who just happen to also identify as Otherkin, online as well.

It's like anything else - read critically. If something doesn't jive to you, then don't take it at face value.

It's interesting to note, at least from my position, that while most Pagans are willing to admit the existence of spirits, fae, elementals, the Astral, dragons, energy and the like, most seem to have a very difficult time believing or accepting the concept of Otherkin. They themselves are often treated like they are not entirely mentally stable for these beliefs by other non-Pagans - but they don't seem to hesitate to place the same kind of stigma on someone else for their own personal beliefs. Hense why I live very openly Pagan, but amongst that community choose not to live openly Otherkin. Just an observation, tho - not pointing at anyone.

I'm lucky enough to have found a group that is both therian and Wiccan in nature. Perhaps I'm just spoiled. :P
-m.

[Zaniah]

I too am a member of Otherkin.net, but my involvement has faded off to nothing.

While I do think it's possible that I have been another something in another life (During the thick of the analysing I came to the conclusion of a past member of the choir of Dominion angels, though that's up to speculation) I've found Otherkin is not where my focus should lie in this life.

The thing is, during my obsession with Otherkin I found I was feeling worse and worse about myself personally. Only when I accepted that this is the world I'm currently living in and living in it 100% did I feel powerful again. In the end I don't think it's much different from those who have strong past-life influences in thier current lives. For me, at least for now, it's best left alone.

It did though influence some interesting integrations of angelic practises and whatnot in my eclectic little world though. :D

[vespertine]

Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
Who is to say that there are not overlaping realities in which these things are found? If we take this as true then we can next ask if there would be idividuals who were connected with both realities. The stories of fae and vampires and were's are found all over the globe. They are similar to a frightening degree when you figure that there was no way to conduct information over the globe instantaniously. A large number of these tales are fromthe same time period. A theory could then be that these realities are closer to each other at various times in history. The theory can also then be that some poeple are better able to feel that reality then others. I do not believe we are scientifically ready to prove or disprove such ideas yet but perhaps someday we shall be able to do so.

i agree fullheartidly with you, i couldn't have said is better, hon :)

[Eirwen Hartsock]

I'm not a member of any Otherkin pages, but I too believe at some point in my lives I was not (completely) human. For me it is just how I feel, what I feel I am closest too (I connect far better with animals than humans), and dreams or (if you will) visions that I have had.
I would have to say that I try not question someone who says that they are an Otherkin. But, like anything, if you flaunt it with publisity I do tend to question you authenticity.

[MoonAnu]

I'm glad this subject has been discussed on this board, though I wish there were more responses and experiences to read. I'm very curious about the whole thing and I've been doing a lot of research online, and off.

I don't know what I am, in fact I'm in that stage of life where I'm supposed to be confused, but I'm open to all suggestions and possibilities. I'll have to do some more research before I can really give anyone on the board my full opinion on the subject, so until then, I will leave everyone in suspense. ;)

- Merryck

[Armitage]

*grins*
You know, I forgot I started this thread. Came in, wondered why my name was on there... :needcoffe

[SylverStar]

I have never heard of this before. I find it fascinating. I have always felt that I don't belong in this world. (thought it was just a human thing though. I've spent alot of time since I was born dreaming about the forest and that that is where I really belong. More as if I was a spirit from the forest. I just thought it was another thing proving I really am insane.

[Ahautenites]

I've been looking for other unicorns. They seem to be rare, even in the OtherKin world. I'd read about two and chatted with one a couple years ago. Haven't seen any more than that around.

Seems that dragons, wolves (were- and non-) , phoenixes and vampires are are among the most visible OtherKin members.

I went looking for discussion forums specificially devoted to 'Kin, but the ones I've found haven't quite met my standard of excellence. (For me, MW *is* that standard.)

As to going/being crazy.... yeah, I hear you on that one. Half the time I wonder if I'm nuts, too. But as has been said before when people question their sanity, if you question it, you're probably quite sane.

[Hamelyn]

I should check these forums more often, hee. *nod* I've sort of had to review and requestion and revamp a lot lately (yay for adolescent changes!), but I considered myself Otherkin for a long while, and still kind of do. I know a couple on a personal basis, but the ones I've met in person seem pretty real and honest to me. Lessee... there's actually a dragon at my high school, and she introduced me to it. She doesn't make a big deal out of it, or mention it to anyone, really. I just kind of saw it reading over her shoulder.... because I'm nosy like that... I hadn't really called my whole fey thing 'Otherkin' before then, mainly just because I didn't tend to think of it as removed from this current world. I dunno... I'm all for that infinate realms of possibility bleeding into one-another thing. Yum, bleedy realms...

I'm not sure what I think of it, as in, 'how it happens' or 'how it works'. I'm not so sure it's important how or why, not all the time anyway. It's there. The dragon I know... she doesn't discuss it too much, but it's a resonance I kind of picked up on her anyway. She's just one of those people who /feel/ a certain way...

It's worth saying that I think it happens in a multitude of ways. Legends taking hold being one of them, incanrations of animal spirits another. I think it's different. Usually even if your theory contradicts other theories but your inner core is telling you to go with it, I think it can be true in some way. *shrug*

Sorry I wasn't much help on the topic. :)

[Ahautenites]

I'm not sure it's actually important, either. It's something I've always known, always lived with. I never really considered it something in my life that I needed to delve into, to explore, and to seek out others. Indeed, before three days ago, I didn't even know that there are others who feel this way. I guess I'm just searching for my own now. Not sure why. Curiosity maybe. But it's not like I expect to find the Secret Unicorn League or something. **laughs at the thought**

[Grey]

Well if your like me and believe in reincarnation then yeah it makes sense. I mean some people say that theyre homosexual cause the spirit is actually that of the opposite sex, and some say you can be reincarnated as an animal... sacred cows come to mind.... So why not a dragon or such? as for if its true or not... Have to go on a person by person basis. But I wouldnt just brush it aside.

Some of the folks around here have a bit of a side theory about elves, dwarves, gnomes etc... having been bred into the human line and thats why you meet pepople like them. Infact theres a family in missoula, none of them ever get more than 5'1" at the tallest, and they all have red hair, pointed ears and smooth faces. The family buisnesses are carpentry and mechanics.... THeres other examples buyt thats the most obvious.

[Ahautenites]

**nods** I've read accounts of that kind of thing, too. I even have a toddler cousin who has pointy ears and the most delicate bone structure and body frame. She looks like a pixie. (And she's as mischievous, too.) I honestly don't know what to think about the genetic idea, though. But, I suppose, since there's so much we don't know about the human genome (even though it's been mapped), that it's entirely possible.

I tend to favor the reincarnation idea, myself.

[Starlight]

I'm recently discovering all this out myself. I've always known I was different and that there was more to me than well...me lol but not until very recently I was just surfing around and I came across the term Otherkin. At first I was kind of skeptical but after reading alot about it...it made sooo much sense it was freaky . Alot of the things I had read were the same things I had been saying to myself for years and up untill then I just thought I was wierd or crazy or something. I'd love to hear about how others discovered themselves ...actually it would be a great help to hear other's stories right now. Feel free to email me or just post or what not. :D

[Élistariel]

This is my bio from the otherkin forum I'm a part of. Haven't been on in a long long time though.

Maren Themah
By unicorn / winged mermaid.
UPDATE 4-30-2003. My true kin name is Niamhria. (or Niamria) I use Niamria on a unicorn board. The name Niam(h)ria came to me between sleeping and being awake. In the 'dream' it had something to do with butterflies. On a name search, Niamh - beautiful, bright. Niamh was the name of the daughter of a sea god in Irish mythology.
Ria - of the river.
*Namarie is tolkien elvish for farewell. The butterflies were leaving.
I now believe that Maren Themah, a winged naiad / mermaid (waterkin) was a guardian to me. I once thought I was her, but she played the role of a sort of "walk-in" type.
I was visiting a unicorn site, I forget which one. And I got a sort of mental "vision" of myself. Sort of like a random image that pops in your head, only this one stuck, big time. I was silver. Not a dull crayola crayon silver, I was SHINY, coat, mane and tail. There were times when my coat shined so brightly, it was almost white, but I don't think I blinded anyone. Sorry if I did ^_^; I honestly don't know if I had 'horse' or cloven hooves. I do believe they were silver as well. They COULD have been gold, but that doesn't FEEL right. Silver does, but I don't KNOW. I highly highly feel as though my horn was either silver or crystal. The spiral "straight" kind. I also made a sound when I ran. Not the normal sound of a horse galloping. A sort of musical sound. The best I can describe it at the moment is that it highly resembled the sound Eric's flute made when he tossed it into the ocean, in Disney's the Little Mermaid. (I'm recalling the sound from memory). I DO remember running, and I ran A LOT, and FAST. I honestly don't know if I had wings or not. All I do know is, during Halloween, when I have my fairy wings on, they feel more comfortable than not having them on. So who know. If I DO have wings, they're like those of a dragonfly, double kind, like a butterfly. I hope that made sense.
Mermaid: I don't believe that Maren Themah was my name. More of a title, or the earthly translation, in "people names form". I'm just now awakening to that part of myself. I lived in or near a crystal castle under the sea. I believe it was under the sea that contained Adalis, Lylorie's island. I'm still having a conversation with her to be sure. So far, so good. I'm still a little sketchy on my appearance. I was a winged mermaid yes. But I believe that I could have a human appearance as well, like my tail was for underwater transportation.The wings? Maybe I flew. I don't remember much. My memories of my castle. (why did I just call it MY castle?), coincide VERY well with Lylorie's memories of an underwater castle near Adalis. Leaving me to believe that I was one of the beings that was there before her people. Hmm, that'd make my soul/spirit, well me, over a billion years old. Wow. I have a good memory. I also have a 'nagging' feeling of being upset that I left my people. Almost as though many needed me, but all I could do was leave. I still don't know if I left by choice, if I died, or if I HAD to leave for my own servival, or theirs.
*too much info alert
Also, I, the human/otherkin me loves swimming, yet can rarely go due to having that darned "stuff" everytime I get to go home during the summer, and can't go swimming in the ocean, cause it's itchy, and I have the "inability to swim" every blasted time I go to the beach. Also I have a bad habit of getting majorly peeved that I can't actually breath underwater. Though, last time I actually got to go swimming my friend timed me holding my breath underwater, it was close to 2 minutes, tho I havta 'telepathically communicate' or just have 'mental pics' of either dolphins or belugas, or some type of dolphin or whale. Belugas seem to work best. Go figure.
K, I'm done rambling

[Armitage]

I love that this thread keeps resurrecting just when I've forgotten about it. :needcoffe

[*GrumpButt*]

Ok just wondering, but since i was a tiny child, as far as I can remember, I have been ever so obsessed with dragons, any kind ,and in any way.... I even went and got a dragon tattoo on my ankle, it was the first one I had ever had, and I insisted it be a a dragon. I even named my dog after them, her name is "Dragon".lol I have dreams about them, I have had one experiance that I think I was dreamimg, but I saw one in the sky, but I can not tell if I was sleeping or awake, I am not very sure...Odd ehh????
Does anyone think that maybe it could have something to do with all the otherkins stuf??

[Élistariel]

Ok just wondering, but since i was a tiny child, as far as I can remember, I have been ever so obsessed with dragons, any kind ,and in any way.... I even went and got a dragon tattoo on my ankle, it was the first one I had ever had, and I insisted it be a a dragon. I even named my dog after them, her name is "Dragon".lol I have dreams about them, I have had one experiance that I think I was dreamimg, but I saw one in the sky, but I can not tell if I was sleeping or awake, I am not very sure...Odd ehh????
Does anyone think that maybe it could have something to do with all the otherkins stuf??

yes it could. IMO, it could either mean that you were a dragon or lived were dragons were abundant. (alternate / parallel worlds)

[Messenger_of_Death]

I've always felt different from normal humans. Some things are that I 'm drawn to nature, nocturnal, heal quickly(doctors are always commenting on this), get angry extreemly easily, and at times have been very strong, for a person who doesn't lift weights very often. There many other things, but most are pretty small. I have thought about checking into past lives, but I worry that I might make up stuff up without realizing it. What I mean is that I have always been interested in otherkin(mostly dragons and demons), so I might unknowingly make up a past life story that I was a dragon because I don't want to except that I'm living a boreing existence. Is it possible to unconsiously make a fake past life and think that it is real? Have any tips on how to tell if it is my imagination or the real thing? I'm betting the answer will be that I will just know(thats what I have heard many people say). I haven't really done any work with past lives, but thought I would check before I accidently convince myself that I'm something that I really am not. I'm thinking of checking into past lives through meditation. Guess I'll probably just have to look for memories that don't seem like anything that I could have possibly made up.

[Élistariel]

I've always felt different from normal humans. Some things are that I 'm drawn to nature, nocturnal, heal quickly(doctors are always commenting on this), get angry extreemly easily, and at times have been very strong, for a person who doesn't lift weights very often. There many other things, but most are pretty small. I have thought about checking into past lives, but I worry that I might make up stuff up without realizing it. What I mean is that I have always been interested in otherkin(mostly dragons and demons), so I might unknowingly make up a past life story that I was a dragon because I don't want to except that I'm living a boreing existence. Is it possible to unconsiously make a fake past life and think that it is real? Have any tips on how to tell if it is my imagination or the real thing? I'm betting the answer will be that I will just know(thats what I have heard many people say). I haven't really done any work with past lives, but thought I would check before I accidently convince myself that I'm something that I really am not. I'm thinking of checking into past lives through meditation. Guess I'll probably just have to look for memories that don't seem like anything that I could have possibly made up.

I don't think there really is a way of REALLY knowing. I also don't think it matters one way or another. If you were really a dragon fine, if it's your imagination, fine too. It's not like you're one now is it? Past lives are just that, past.

[Lai]

Even if otherkin are deluded and everything is purely imagination... it makes us happy and whole inside, and harms no one. So why even bother wondering about proving or disproving? If you managed either, what means to an end was that? ;)

I have a personal theory for otherkin, therians, weres, etc that I myself don't really believe. In the past humans have killed quite a lot of certain species; wolves, for example. Oddly enough all of a sudden humans are suddenly claiming to have the spirit of a wold inside them. Perhaps these "spirits" are inhabiting humans to help give us new perspective of the world?

And yes, I consider myself a therian. Specifically a type of psittacine (parrot-type bird). I'm the type of girl who always finds feathers wherever she goes, owns no less than ten birds for her own little "flock", and enjoys nothing other then preening a member of that same flock. :) I could go on and on about my own little birdy quirks, but I'd hate to bore anyone! There's so much more than just the joy of flight. The little noises to communicate, the keen observer of details, splashing around madly in a bath to sit for hours drying in the warm sun afterward, and observing the members of your flock to see if they've found anything, what they're up to, and if anyone sees signs of danger. Preening one of your closest friends, ridding them of that itchy feather shaft that's been bothering him/her all afternoon... and, of course, recieving a grateful preening or soft kiss in return. People seem to think that a bird is all about flight and freedom.. but rather, it's about those you love most and living life to the fullest.

For me their was no "discovery" of my "other" self. Rather, just acknowledging the existance of something I've known my entire life.

Anyway, I'd better leave everyone at that before I continue to expose my deluded mind to you innocent people. ;)

[Calzaer]

I'm sort of pissed about the whole Otherkin thing at the moment.

I never f---ing asked for wings, goddamnit. I specifically UNchecked the little box that said "Yes! Please send me my free pair of wings!" on my last Amazon.com order. Not 48 hours prior to discovering them, I said, out loud, and I quote: "Non-human reincarnation is one thing, sure, but people who think they have wings are a little... you know...." <vague hand gesture>. Then I'm meditating and drawing in energy and *pow!* big honking wings.

Bah. Wings. They're lucky I keep 'em around.

Bah.

[AmbivalentMirage]

Just out of curiousity...when I'm really angry, I can feel claw-like things on the tip of my fingers... but they drain energy from objects into me... Any idea what THAT might be?

[Xentor]

Fangs?

[Xentor]

Then I'm meditating and drawing in energy and *pow!* big honking wings.

Bah. Wings. They're lucky I keep 'em around.
I use the form of wings to shape my energy signature. They're amazingly more versatile than a sphere. Perhaps your wings are like that, and not necessarily otherkin.

On the other hand, if you've been working yourself up on denying otherkin, the universe might just have decided to swing back the balance!

[WolfyJames]

I consider myself as a were and as otherkin. I think you can guess with my name what kind of were I am: a werewolf. It's just a connection that I feel in the deep core of my soul. I dream about wolves, and me as one of them. I also have dreams about other worlds and other species. I shiftshape a lot too in my dreams. I think, personaly, that I dream about my past lives. After all, the universe is wide, and other worlds exist out there, or have existed. The possibilities that we had a few existences there are great. Our past lives can affect us in some deep level, why not these past lives too?

[DarkSidhe]

Here is a subject in which I still have problems. The answers that I have found, end up like most, leading into just more questions.

1) As a pagan, I believe in reincarnation.
"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in existence." - Socrates
"Finding myself to exist in the world, I believe I shall, in some shape or other, always exist." Benjamin Franklin

2) As an Irish Wittan, I believe in the Tuatha De Dannan, and that they intermingled with the Milesians, that both Finn and Cuchalain had Tuatha in their immediate family, etc.
(Also, there are the biblical Nephilim; "...when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of reknown." Genesis 6:4)

So, having belief in both of these, I could say the 'otherkin' concept could go both ways. Either genetics, or reincarnated souls. Or perhaps a combination of them both.

The problem that most pagans have with 'otherkin' is the same problem one might have against the person who says that he can conjure fireballs from thin air. You kinda have to believe in certain mysteries in order to be pagan, but there is a limit to what is real and what is not. As to what that limit is, is up to the individual.

Some ppl laugh when another says that they talk to spirits, astrally travel, sense auras, clairvoy, etc. Who's to say what is the truth? Is it any more impossible to believe that I am a genetic descendant of the Tuatha, than it is to just believe that the Tuatha once existed? Is it any more impossible to believe that I am a reincarnated soul of a Tuatha, than it is to just believe that reincarnation exists? That I am both?

The only problem that I have with most other 'otherkin' is the fact that you hardly ever see anyone who says that they are "Lob-kin" (Lobs are Welsh; small dark, lazy blobs that delight in human misery), or Formorians, or Ogres, or Boggarts, etc. Or if they are Weres, you never see anyone saying that they are Pig-kin, skunk-kin, etc. It's always Sprites, Wood Elves, Pixies, Wolves, Dragons, Lions, Griffons, etc... Because no one wants to admit that they might have an ugly soul. (I did meet a Troll-kin once, though).

So, there again, more answers leading to more questions...

[banondraig]

The only problem that I have with most other 'otherkin' is the fact that you hardly ever see anyone who says that they are "Lob-kin" (Lobs are Welsh; small dark, lazy blobs that delight in human misery), or Formorians, or Ogres, or Boggarts, etc. Or if they are Weres, you never see anyone saying that they are Pig-kin, skunk-kin, etc. It's always Sprites, Wood Elves, Pixies, Wolves, Dragons, Lions, Griffons, etc... Because no one wants to admit that they might have an ugly soul. (I did meet a Troll-kin once, though).

So, there again, more answers leading to more questions...

that's an excellent point, something i noticed as well. however, if you were lob-kin or skunk-kin, would you want to admit it? perhaps that explains all those people who go around telling their co-workers they put a hex on them and such. they could be reincarnations of less-friendly creatures.

[Calzaer]

It's always Sprites, Wood Elves, Pixies, Wolves, Dragons, Lions, Griffons, etc... Because no one wants to admit that they might have an ugly soul.

I notice the same problem with reincarnation. Everyone was Cleopatra or the Merlin, nobody was Judas or Cassius or Attila the Hun or King James.

[Ahautenites]

I was killed in a raid by the Huns in one life, but that was as close as I ever got to Attila himself. (And I was never *any* of the Cleos. :) )

But actually, I don't think people really do have much problem admitting that they're an ugly soul. I don't find dragons or weres all that attractive, myself. (No offense. I don't even think *humans* are all that attractive, truth be told.) On some of the Kin boards I've visited, people often describe some of the most unusual fanged, slimy, hairy, really unattractive (at least to me) creatures. Some of them don't even know what they themselves are because they seem to be bits and pieces of several creatures. Like Chimeras or something.

Also, just because someone is Kin doesn't mean that they are Pagan, Wicca, or Crafty in any way whatsoever. Some of them have no belief in magic or curses or hexes at all.

[Xentor]

As for people not wanting to reveal their ugly side, may I suggest that people with ugly pasts may not be able to remember them? And perhaps only those with a past too ugly to bear are haunted by their memory?

Same might apply to reincarnation memory. It's no fun to remember you were the son of a local pig farmer, whose best achievement was to have his house flooded while trying to resque it from forest fire.

And on a more practical note, so what if 400 people remember they were Merlin? The Earth sports 5.5 billion people now. Some of those people might, purely on statistical basis, share the same origin. On a more philosophical note, who says the soul remains in one piece and doesn't get fragmented over time? Especially with seemingly big spirits like Merlin (assuming, for the sake of argument, his existence proven).

[SnowyMoon]

I once read a magazine article in Cosmo about five girls who believed themselves to be fae from when they were little ~ they all were friends in real life and had found eachother by coincidence. They wore wings all the time ~ bed, work and out! and often went up to other girls who were wearing wings asking if they were thinking alike... I thought it was strange but sounded lots of fun and belived in them/ or them believing in themselves.
I think people can have different souls ~ dont know how or why but I do believe :pOkay. I am convinced. I must have Fey spirit. ;). But tell me what YOU think. :)

My real-life name is Angel, and yep, I loved to wear wings. I used to feel lighter than air when I would dance, and at times as a child thought I could "hover" for a few seconds of almost flight when dancing. ;). I used to dream of flying a lot. I love dance (all forms) and spent a lot of time dancing as a child. I also spent lots of time outdoors playing with frogs and flowers and talking to trees. Really, I did. ;). I lived pretty much away from other children and I was an only child until I was 5, so nature was my best friend. I also got into roller skating and eventually ice skating as an adult (I still do this when I can, and I can do layback spins and double jumps:)). Nothing makes me feel more Fey-ish than skating outdoors at night in snowfall. WOW! ;). Then there is the music thing. I love it so much, I also learned to play. used to play the piano, then I learned the flute, the trumpet and the guitar. Piano, Flute and guitar (acuostic was my fav, but played electric too). It all came so easy for me. I also liked to sing (have won Karaoke contests). I love to watch the seasons change, and sometimes, I look out the window during snowfall or autum when the leaves are falling, and I can imagine myself dancing through the tree-tops and among the snowflakes. :).

Also, as a child my "sight" was better. I have always been told I have been"psychic," even by my own family. In fact, my father used to come to me for advice when I was a child (even though he was Christian). I used to be quite amused by this. My "sight" to see spirits and beings (which I saw quite a bit of as a child) diminished and lessened greatly as I became an adult and was taught to supress it. Now, I spend a great deal of time trying to get it back. :(.

And then there is the constant feeling of "not fitting in" with the other people. I have always felt "differernt." I think differently. People just don't seem to get it. They are so SERIOUS.So many are so greedy and are willing to give up ALL The fun in life to have THINGS. I still cannot understand why we need to work so much, when so much of life is meant to be fun! I think we should work as much as we need to for food and shelter and survival, but we need to have more time for basic fun. I don't understand why adults are afraid to act like children sometimes and just ENJOY themselves. Play is GREAT fun, and we should never stop playing! Life to me was meant to be enjoyed; looking at flowers, stomping in mud puddles, catching a frog, standing in strong wind on an autumn or spring day, running along a beach and into the water (imagining one is a mermaid), taking long walks in the woods and talking to the trees and plants, lying under the clouds and the stars with your back on the bare earth, making snow-angels in fresh-fallen snow or catching snowflakes on our tongues, dancing with fireflies, catching them and putting in a jar and then setting them free on a midsummers dusk! :hehehehe:

So, what is the consenses? Am I part Fey in spirit?:hmmmmm: Could it be?

:dancy:

[Bebadora_the_puppet]

Bump

Bump what? Authors are such strange people.
Oh dear, I forget what this post was about. Oh yes,..

I believe that i hold within this vessel the spirit of the abyss. It has a spirit you say? Why not ? Everything else does. If a rock can speak to you of dangers in the sea, why not the abyss could speak of the dangers of eternity.

I can only explain it thus. My aura is ying but yang permeates from my flesh, why? Because the infinate universe holds as many truths as we have fantasy!

[mothwench]

:lol: lmao for cal, darksithe and banondraig. actually i could name you the otherkin of ppl who wouldn't even dream of this themselves, everybody qualifies for this. the sober, logical side of me says that these creatures are nothing but characteristical archetypes of humans, anyway.
examples: my bf would be the troll, definately. maybe a dragon if i give him a little more credit... :p my flatmate would be the were, he is totally scizzo, and he even has the telltale eyebrows. ;) and me? gollum springs to mind, :lol: but that's a bit harsh, i'll have to think about it some more...

[SnowyMoon]

Reading about the "escapism" explanation, I can agree with that. It is a very logical answer. However, how does one explain a 3-to-5-year-old child who believes she can fly or once had real wings?

My grandparents told me it was my overactive imagination and repressed it. :(.

This imagination was what gave me the ability to learn to play instruments just by hearing and analysing the songs on my own before learning to read music, in fact it was much better and much easier! It helped me learn to read before I was 5. It helped me develop theories and ideas that sparked my desire for learning. Ugggg. Imagination suppression in children is awful. :(. The imagination is a great gift. Ask Albert Einstein (spelling). ;)

[Bebadora_the_puppet]

:lol: . ;) and me? gollum springs to mind, :lol: but that's a bit harsh, i'll have to think about it some more...


only in your pervasiveness for your outer shell is quite a sweet smelling flower!

[WolfyJames]

If you were to spend some time on Were forums, you would discover that not everyone is a werewolf, or weredragon. Many are as well many kind of birds (ravens), felines (from domesticated cats to tigers), foxes, snakes, bears...

And as for me, I'm sorry but, when I was going through my werewolf awakening (if I can call it like that), it was not fun and fluffy at all. I was having nightmares about it, about wolves hunting me down and kill me, and about werewolves (the scary ones in movies) hunting me down and kill me. Many of them (werewolves) said I was one of them, I could feel it indeed inside of me, but I was terrified, and all I thought was that I was a monster. All I did was running away from them. To me, it was monstreous, rage, anger, violence. Awake, I was worried: would I go on a killing rampage on the full moon? I made a significative dream at some point, involving a wolf (again), and I discovered that, as long as I was going to run away from the wolf within me, and be scared of it, it would grow angry at me and keep hunting me; it was hungry, very hungry, hungry for my attention and my affection, my recognition. Once I did all that, the relationship changed, and I almost stopped having nightmares involving wolves and werewolves. I do dream about them, but now we're more family.

And as for having bad past lives, everyone has had them, but not everyone is capable to confront such a dark aspects of themselves. I've had many past lives experiences, in which I was a terrible person, enough to make feel that Hitler was nothing but an amateur, but I don't say that to people for many reasons: first, because I'm ashamed of it and deeply regret it, and second because people would take the closest heaviest thing they can grab and kill me with it.

[LittleRhiannon]

well, I have been known to joke with my friends that I'm a changling. I spend a lot of time in the forest outside my house, and I like to climb things. I'm small, skinny, and my ears aren't exactly pointed, but at times they can give the impression that they are.

It would be neat to be a changling :)

[Earthcup]

This actually has me slightly shaken. I'm generally a skeptic, didn't care for the Indigo children theory.

But now want to know why I want to stretch my non-existent wings when I'm tired....... Or it could explain why my husband is almost impervious to heat and most narcotics but PeptoBismal burns his skin?

*exploring this carefully*

[SnowyMoon]

well, I have been known to joke with my friends that I'm a changling. I spend a lot of time in the forest outside my house, and I like to climb things. I'm small, skinny, and my ears aren't exactly pointed, but at times they can give the impression that they are.

It would be neat to be a changling :)
That was me too. I weighed 98 pounds at 18 and 5 feet 2 inches tall. I too loved to climb things. They used to get me to drink raw eggs trying to make me gain weight; the doctors thought something was wrong because I was not growing, I was a very small child.

My daughter has a dolphin inside her. ;). I am Fey. :).

[SnowyMoon]

....but PeptoBismal burns his skin?

*exploring this carefully*Ewwww. That stuff makes me vomit. :ack:

Just cuz I relate to the Fey spirits dosn't mean I don't have a dark side. I know I do. I have a temper. :smoke: I have had some flashes of visions of me in some sort of military uniform; I was male, and it was white with gold braids along the shoulders and gold accents. Not sure what it means though.

[Earthcup]

Thank you to the member who started this thread! I'm fascinated!

[Ash StormRaven]

What about the idea of manifestation? Very very shortened explanation...one manifests an image in their mind; therefore it exists to them. i.e. one cannot say gods, faeries, etc... don't exist because they are manifestations pf the mind that one uses to draw energy from. All things are connected to Earth and when one speaks of faeries what I see is the physical manifestation on one of the Earth's many energies.

[mothwench]

Just cuz I relate to the Fey spirits dosn't mean I don't have a dark side. I know I do. I have a temper. :smoke:.
well, that's cause there are plenty of dark fey. :hairraise

[banondraig]

Ewwww. That stuff makes me vomit. :ack:

Just cuz I relate to the Fey spirits dosn't mean I don't have a dark side. I know I do. I have a temper. :smoke: I have had some flashes of visions of me in some sort of military uniform; I was male, and it was white with gold braids along the shoulders and gold accents. Not sure what it means though.

hmmmm . . . american navy officers wear white in the summer, not sure if there would be any gold on the shoulders tho.

[DarkSidhe]

well, that's cause there are plenty of dark fey.
:D

I love quotes...here's some more...

"The soul comes from without into the human body, as into a temporary abode, and it goes out of it anew..it passes into other habitations, for the soul is immortal."
-Ralph Waldo Emerson

"I did not begin when I was born, nor when I was conceived. I have been growing, developing, through incalculable myriads of millenniums...All my previous selves have their voices, echoes, promptings in me...Oh, incalculable times again shall I be born."
-Jack London

"It is not more surprising to be born twice than once."
-Voltaire

"Iam certian that I have been here as I am now a thousand times before, and I hope to return a thousand times."
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

"Genius is experience. Some seem to think that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of long experience in many lives."
-Henry Ford

"I could well imagine that I might have lived in former centuries and there incountered questions I was not yet able to answer; that I had to be born again because I had not fulfilled the task that was given to me."
-Carl Jung

[Eryck]

I have no concrete proof of anything other than my overwhelming internal feelings and natural actions. All I can tell you is this-

I have naturally elongated fangs
I have a ravenous craving for meat (not human flesh, either)
Full Moons disturb me like nothing else can
I growl at things without meaning to
I have been told by many, many different folk that I have the eyes of a wolf
I can bark and howl
I love the darkness
Dogs (and many animals in general) have always felt drawn to me-and we are usually able to speak to one another

For reasons which I am only now beginning to explore further, I have always felt an unusually strong bond with wolves-and canines in general.

I have not ever been able to "shift" as other claim-and I am not totally convinced that such things are possible.

But, for whatever reasons-I carry a lot of wolf spirit within my human frame. It is one of the very few things in my life that has ever made any sense. Therefore-I consider myself to be a Therianthrope.

[WolfMoon]

I have not ever been able to "shift" as other claim-and I am not totally convinced that such things are possible.

Many different ways to shift tho.

[charmedkisses1]

It's just my opinion but I think people wish it to be true.... btw, aren't all souls the same no matter where they came from? :confused:


But I guess anything is possible!!!

[Eryck]

Indeed....the quest continues....

....but it is good to be among you, as I find little support in other places.

[jelly.belly]

Wow, this is really interesting, it's too bad I missed it before!

I do believe in Otherkin, tho I don't think I'm one! I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, if someone was an animal in another life, why wouldn't he/she be able to remember parts of that life? There's probably a wolf or a dragon somewhere thinking he's a human! ;) Of course, if you don't believe in weres, dragons and the Fae then you can't really believe in this... I say why not? Anything's possible! :)

[charmedkisses1]

Wow, this is really interesting, it's too bad I missed it before!

I do believe in Otherkin, tho I don't think I'm one! I don't see why it wouldn't be possible, if someone was an animal in another life, why wouldn't he/she be able to remember parts of that life? There's probably a wolf or a dragon somewhere thinking he's a human! ;) Of course, if you don't believe in weres, dragons and the Fae then you can't really believe in this... I say why not? Anything's possible! :)


copycat :cutie:

[jelly.belly]

Oops! Sorry, didn't see the new posts, it took a while to read the whole thread, so yours wasnt there! 8O