Well, since my first Question got responses, I'll ask another!

[CaeruleusLady]

I met a bird...A bird of prey. I started seeing him(I'm pretty sure he's a him) in my dreams. In the first dream, I recieved a feather, and then there were a few more where he was there, and then he showed up randomly in my special place that I go to while meditating(uninvited!). I feel his presence even when I'm not doing anything involving energy work. He's golden(not a golden eagle, but actually gold all over in color. The feather was gold too.) and he prefers to take the shape of an eagle, but I've seen him change into other birds of prey a few times. What the heck is he and where he came from? I didn't ask for any guides or anything. Also, um, golden eagle is definitely a weird one to end up with since I'm closer to reptiles...

Normally I just stick to talking to people I know about this kind of thing, but, well, I figured this would be a good place to ask.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

I've come back to this again and again trying to see it as a whole but keep coming up empty. That in mind I though perhaps the thing is it has to be approached piecemeal and look at the componets more than the greater picture.

The first thing that strikes me is the celestial aspect of it all. Yet not just celestial but solar in the presenc eof the golden color. When I see a lot of gold or very intense figures in gold I am reminded to think of it as a solar or sun type event. You don't really state what time of day this is occuring but I get a sense that it is during the daylight hours. Almost in a asense of Father Sky as it soars over you and above you.

That ties in with the notion of the single feather. For me a feather is a sign of the element of Air. It's used to move upon it but also flow with it. To embrace its currents and patterns and soar above and over the ground again. Making it anothe solar indicator for me. In some ways even symbolic of the rising and advancing sun as both soar across the horizon, climbing high before drifting back down to the horizon and vanishing from seight.

You've got elements of morphing between various independent birds. In some ways reminding me of an old statue of an Indian with a feathered robe on that he uses to change into the bird. Near as I recall the statue is called Little Feather Dancer but I might be wrong there. Yet the morphing facet appears to be very strong whihc might be an indicator of what your looking at holds no set form but takes the best form to speak or convey its message. Perhaps something that is easily anamorphed to display or exhabit human like characterstics or ideals yet still retain its animal persona for the most part.

Now it they are all preditors then your also dealing with strength and vision. The ability to look upon the winds to far distances and observe even the tiniest of movements upon the land. In part also giving one a differing perspective of life as they observe it from on high and see farther afield than just the jumbled area about them upon the ground level. From a meditative facet it perhaps indicates looking upon the world in differing ways or seeing far beyond ones own limitations.

That he can penetrate your sacred space tells me it is a spirit bird or spirit creature. Not necessarily a guide, totem or power animal type creature but something of the spiritual realm. Also something associated to the solar facet of things so its not nocturnal or chthonic in nature.

Yet in the end it is always up to the dreamer to state what a symbol or item means to them and how they view it. Only you can say for sure just what an eagle means, what the color gold means to you.

To me an eagle is freedom in motion. It is death from on high yet beauty in movement. Strong power and presence with the near apperance of no effort to perform its tasks, thus hiding the truth of its ability and strength, even the agility it possess upon the wing that it looses upon the branch or ground.

But as I stated these are just my thoughs so they may or may not help you in understanding it.

[CaeruleusLady]

In my dreams when I see him, if it is not daylight, it is very well lit by fire and/or candlelight. So, you are right there.

I typically associate gold with the usual motifs. Sun, light, um, sometimes fire, and also love, but like a deep, good love, not like a lusty one.

When I asked what his name was, he gave me a joke nickname to call him. When I talked to my gods, the few I thought he might have something to do with were not telling me. It's like they want me to guess, but how am I supposed to guess that? I also have a deity that has recently been sort of trying to get my attention, he has some lightning (maybe that's the gold? it's a glowing/shimmering kind of gold) and thunder associations, but I don't know if birds have anything to do with him. I just don't know enough about either of them (the eagle or the deity in question) to make a guess. I had a theory that maybe starting with the feather and working up to the eagle was a way to get me comfortable with a presence that might be this new deity. Baby step program? If you haven't already guessed, I haven't exactly chosen my path yet so I've got a lot going on. I wasn't totally sure he had anything to do with any of them and maybe they wanted me to figure that out, but after reading what you wrote, I'm sure he's related to one of them somehow. I kind of follow a celtic path(which makes a lot of potential deities to look at). So birds aren't out of character, but I don't really recall anyone having eagles or similar birds. It's usually like ravens.

Thank you for your help so far. You've given me a lot to think about. I also really appreciate your taking my inquiry seriously.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

NOt to well schooled in the Celtic myths and such so can't give a lot of info there. However it made me curious and I found this little tid bit that might be of interest to you. Especially since it hits upon a number of points you made. Can't tell you how accurate it is but might be a place to start;

http://www.joellessacredgrove.com/Celtic/deitiest-u-v-w.html



TANNUS

(Breton, Anglo-Celtic, Continental) Also Tinnus, Taranis, and Taranus. A thunder God who has origins in Celtic Gaul under the more well-known name Taranis (the modern Breton word for thunder is taran). He is not to be confused with the Goddess of the same name.

In early Gaul human sacrifices were offered to him to influence the weather. He was also a God of the wheel who was associated with the oak tree and eagles, and was also a God of fertility and a sky God.

He is equated with the Nordic God of thunder, Thor, and sometimes with Rome's Jupiter. His feast time is Yule.

[CaeruleusLady]

I've actually been looking at him. So you've been very helpful! I had the eagle narrowed down between two gods. I figured if anyone suggested anything close to one of them since we determined it had something to do with one of them that would be my answer. As far as whether or not the information is accurate, I'd say it all depends on who you ask. There isn't a whole lot of real information on him(That I could find anyway.). At best there are, I think, 7 statues attributed to him and he's mentioned by roman writers, but the accuracy of their information is definitely questionable. I'm not entirely sure if he himself is associated with eagles or if it was something that was added onto him via the Jupiter/Zeus association. Oaks and yule I don't know about either, but I didn't receive any dreams or presences until the yuletide season began. Oak is usually the sacred tree of deities associated with lightning since it seems to get hit by it a lot. I actually study different religions and gods a lot. Haven't really gotten around to "shamanism" but it's probably next on my hit list. I was considering going to college for this type of thing and also studying archetypes and world literature, but then life happened...in my womb! Lol. Made myself laugh.

[MonSno_LeeDra]

I've actually been looking at him. So you've been very helpful! I had the eagle narrowed down between two gods. I figured if anyone suggested anything close to one of them since we determined it had something to do with one of them that would be my answer.

Glad I could help. Like I said Celtic is not my strong point so never sure when it comes to them.


As far as whether or not the information is accurate, I'd say it all depends on who you ask.

That's true of a lot of gods / goddesses, even those who are supposedly well known. Today it seem's there is a lot of take it for granted with out any research to see if it is actually true or not. The net is good for a quick search but its also made me cringe a lot of times with what i've seen written and passed off as truth.

[CaeruleusLady]

That's true of a lot of gods / goddesses, even those who are supposedly well known. Today it seem's there is a lot of take it for granted with out any research to see if it is actually true or not. The net is good for a quick search but its also made me cringe a lot of times with what i've seen written and passed off as truth.

Agreed.