Empathic Bunker

[Astara Seague]

I saw that on the news last night Lunacie, I am glad you and your family are ok,
we have a big blizzardy storm today..its supposed to be really bad,

[Kalika]

:hugz: Lunacie. Make sure to check in once in awhile to let us know you are ok. :)

I don't miss living in Tornado Alley!

[Lunacie]

Yep, it's that time of year here. It was sixteen years ago next month that a huge tornado almost completely wiped out the mobile home park where we're living now - although we weren't living here then. The mobile home we bought 3 years ago was moved in here afterwards, brand new at the time. The neighborhood has recovered very nicely and the town has been growing by leaps and bounds. We can't build new schools fast enough.

Any time we have tornados that actually touch down anywhere in south-central Kansas I'll report in to let you all know if I'm safe, as soon as I think it's safe to come out of the park shelter. Thanks for caring. :hugz:

[Shadow Angel]

It's happening again dammit, this overwhelming feeling of empathic bond and i cant stop the bloody thing. dammit this is so huged up, it makes me feel sick every time i try to shield, maybe im not sposed to? i dont know, all i know is it is waaaay strong, not negative, but so overpowering me i am blinded by it, it is taking over me. it has been happening for the past few minutes now..sh!te i wish there was a way i could find to stop this, it takes away the control, i dont like that, it makes me feel vulnerble if you understand what i mean.
i want to scream, shout, laugh..i dunno, it is so unbelievably annoying too, it just happens wherever or whenever..grrrr i need a huging warning, cos this just does me in..
this is the second time this has happened in this intensity to me in over 16 years.

[Shadow Angel]

ok im good now..but damn!

[mithrilmoon]

It's happening again dammit, this overwhelming feeling of empathic bond and i cant stop the bloody thing. dammit this is so huged up, it makes me feel sick every time i try to shield, maybe im not sposed to? i dont know, all i know is it is waaaay strong, not negative, but so overpowering me i am blinded by it, it is taking over me. it has been happening for the past few minutes now..sh!te i wish there was a way i could find to stop this, it takes away the control, i dont like that, it makes me feel vulnerble if you understand what i mean.
i want to scream, shout, laugh..i dunno, it is so unbelievably annoying too, it just happens wherever or whenever..grrrr i need a huging warning, cos this just does me in..
this is the second time this has happened in this intensity to me in over 16 years.



I get that too. Sometimes acutely. But I've learned to kind of go with it, even enjoy the rush. The nausea soon passes, I find. I breathe deeply, ground and centre.

That seems to help a lot.

[Shadow Angel]

yes i was concerntrating as much as i could on grounding and my breathing, but it just made me so dizzy with all this..emotion..was waaay out of the ordinary.
ive tried going with it, but its just too much , honestly, im no good with handling that kind of thing, i just feel like passing out and my vision goes all blurry, its actually a little frightening, yet not frightening at the same time. i cant describe this, it is indescribable.

[Shadow Angel]

A question,

is it possible to find out where that just all came from, or from whom?

thankyou.x

[LostSheep]

:hugz: SA.

[Shadow Angel]

~huggles back~

seriously, i HAVE got to know where that came from, ple3ase if there is any way that anyone may know of to find this out, i am all ears !!

[mithrilmoon]

~huggles back~

seriously, i HAVE got to know where that came from, ple3ase if there is any way that anyone may know of to find this out, i am all ears !!



I can only suggest gut feeling right now; intuition.

Or could someone known to you - or even unknown - be sending good/bad thoughts and/or energy? Deliberately or otherwise?

We pick it up, either way. Negative energy, bad vibes, are the ones that make me feel really sick. I often have to jump away from my keyboard if it happens online. I feel as though I can't breathe, and I tremble from top to toe. I get the shivers, too.

If it's really bad I go into another room. Shake my arms and legs, get the tension out of my muscles, try to expel it from me. Then I concentrate on trying to calm myself.

Feeling everything all the time can be very taxing!

[Shadow Angel]

thanks Mith,- what if im wrong though? is there a way to be 100+ possitive?

[Lorrie]

Ya know, if you live in an area where there are alot of people, you could just be picking up someone close by that you have never even met!:idea: I have felt this in nature before even, my empath abilities seem to be tied more to nature than people, when an animal has become a meal for another, I feel the victims energies, it is awful. I have often said that I wish the circle of life would stay further away from my back yard.

[Pesha]

I have found that living in an aprtment complex, I tend to pick up alot of extraneous vibrations from people. I have to sift through it sometimes to see where I am at. Other times I just lock up tight and do not allow outside stuff into my sphere. So it is a toss up sometimes to try and figure out where we are getting some of the feelings and emotions we are picking up.
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BTW Lorrie this is for you hun:

Congratulations on one month smoke free. You go girlfriend!!!

[Lorrie]

Thank ya much, dear!! It was finally today that I actually began to notice a change in my breathing! It feels sooooo good!!!!!!:wave:

[Lorrie]

And of course thanks to everyone for the congrats! I never thought it was possible for me to quit all the way cold turkey, I feel like if I can do this, there is NOTHING I cannot do!!!:hahugh:

[Kalika]

Or could someone known to you - or even unknown - be sending good/bad thoughts and/or energy? Deliberately or otherwise?



This was my initial thought, in reading your post. Sadly... I'm rarely wrong.

If you're still feeling this way tomorrow, or want additional help - you can PM me. I may be able to help you.

[He who seeks]

yes im troubled also by what your saying as well....there such nasty vibe going round striking ppl...its already caught my friends believeing its someone nasty and sunday i was struck by a massive 24 hour bug bed ridden and that, it faded on monday but then re appeared a gut illness.

im rarely ever that ill.

this is quite concerning but ive been through worse and endured it to hunt down the source, i dont know what it is still but getting closer.

SA get snuggled _inabox_, hugs and energy to you, i will help you on this matter as i feel its related


P.S. i got a really irritated aguish when i was ill, i dont know if it was sent through the illness but i felt it very strongly but was able to seperate it form my own thoughts.

[Pesha]

A few months ago I had an failed relationship pm me and immediatly felt ill. I truely hate when someone does this to someone else. You might want to set up wards in your residence to ward off anything further hampering you. And also consider what I mentioned before in my other post, as it could be stray vibes flowing in at you. Go with sheilds up for now.

[mithrilmoon]

I Ya know, if you live in an area where there are alot of people, you could just be picking up someone close by that you have never even met!:idea: I have felt this in nature before even, my empath abilities seem to be tied more to nature than people, when an animal has become a meal for another, I feel the victims energies, it is awful. I have often said that I wish the circle of life would stay further away from my back yard.



I was very little when I first saw BAMBI.

In the cinema.

I wept and wept at his mother's death until eventually I became almost hysterical. People were pointing and laughing; I can remember feeling ashamed, embarrassed - different. I sobbed at ET too. And I wasn't little!

All through my childhood and early years I wept at harsh scenes, death scenes, cruelty to people or to animals - I sob to this day, but not quite so hysterically.

The film THE YEARLING - where the Dad shoots the hungry little fawn - almost destroyed me. I kind of wanted to take the Dad's shotgun and total HIM. Yeah, I know the poor animal was eating the only food source these impoverished dirt farmers had... but even so...

I did not know I was an Empath; I'd never heard of a person being AN empath as opposed to being empathetic which I kind of assumed was rather akin to being sympathetic and experiencing fellow-feeling for others.

Now I know exactly what was going on with me, and still is. I have learned to appreciate my Gift, even though it makes pain almost unbearable, because joy, likewise, is to me the greatest joy anyone could ever feel.

Swings and roundabouts!

I think spiritual Gifts, like any others, come with a price of some sort. We are willing to pay that price in order to continue to be so blessed.

**ps**

All through my life people have come to me to help with sick stray/wild animals. For some reason (!!) they would panic when others approached, but would allow me to tiptoe over slowly, speaking softly, then pick them up and try to get help. Sometimes the poor things were badly injured and did not survive, but since nobody else could get close I at least would be able to get them away from a busy road or other animals or unpleasant human beings.

Again - empathy in action, tho' I did not know it then.

[He who seeks]

A few months ago I had an failed relationship pm me and immediatly felt ill. I truely hate when someone does this to someone else. You might want to set up wards in your residence to ward off anything further hampering you. And also consider what I mentioned before in my other post, as it could be stray vibes flowing in at you. Go with sheilds up for now.


do you know what the best wards would be im not too familiar in making wards, but yes i will keep me sheild up sand constantly re check them

[Kalika]

:wave:

[He who seeks]

*blinks*

:wave:

[Lorrie]

:wave: :hahugh: :caffeine: :imout:

[Kalika]

How is everyone today?

I'm freezing to death, but other than that, ok so far. :p

ETA: I feel like I'm being poked at. :fpoke: Stop it.

[LostSheep]

:wave:

windy today.

:sailing:

[mithrilmoon]

thanks Mith,- what if im wrong though? is there a way to be 100+ possitive?



PS - Rather stating the obvious!

Cleanse, heal, SHIELD SHIELD SHIELD.

Then SHIELD again!

[Lorrie]

Calm before the yet another storm here! It'll be spring soon. Maybe, someday, I hope. Sooner than later.

[He who seeks]

ahhh im being blow about on the road....geeze how am i suspose to rid emy bike if it keeps going sideways not forwards


bah...i need a car

[Astara Seague]

Calm before the yet another storm here! It'll be spring soon. Maybe, someday, I hope. Sooner than later.
Im with you 100% we have sunshine today..and storms tommarow,

but the full moon is coming and everytime she arrives the weather changes so Im saying Spring is knocking on the door!!

[Pesha]

Im with you 100% we have sunshine today..and storms tommarow,

but the full moon is coming and everytime she arrives the weather changes so Im saying Spring is knocking on the door!!

I live just up the I 15 from Astara. And we have sun and storms due tomorrow. Last night here it was 15F. I am so sick of the cold and the snow.

I am doing fine considering the barometric pressure is low and it even hurts my artifical knee joints.

[Lorrie]

Here comes the storm!

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 1 PM EST THURSDAY...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN GRAND RAPIDS HAS ISSUED A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 1 AM TO 1 PM EST THURSDAY.

OCCASIONAL SNOW IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP TONIGHT...GRADUALLY TRANSITIONING TO SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN INTO THURSDAY MORNING. BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON...THE MIXTURE OF PRECIPITATION SHOULD HAVE CHANGED OVER TO ALL RAIN. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF AN INCH OR TWO ARE POSSIBLE ALONG WITH SOME LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS OF ICE...LESS THAN A QUARTER OF AN INCH. THE MIXTURE OF PRECIPITATION TYPES WILL LIKELY CAUSE SLIPPERY ROADS BEFORE WE WARM ABOVE FREEZING AROUND MIDDAY.


After this we may get thunderstorms. 100 % precip for the next three days. Looks like Michigan spring weather, we get all seasons weather in one day. I hope my daughter will be able to get the baby here safely in the morning!:spaceman:

[Shadow Angel]

ok im re quoting myself here, as i obviously didnt make it clear last night.
what happened to me last night, was in NO WAY negative. This is FACT. I did say that!! LOL

see bold type LOL noting therefore that it wasnt negative. hehehehe:hahugh:

QUOTE {ME, MYSELF AND I}:lol: :

It's happening again dammit, this overwhelming feeling of empathic bond and i cant stop the bloody thing. dammit this is so huged up, it makes me feel sick every time i try to shield, maybe im not sposed to? i dont know, all i know is it is waaaay strong, not negative, but so overpowering me i am blinded by it, it is taking over me. it has been happening for the past few minutes now..sh!te i wish there was a way i could find to stop this, it takes away the control, i dont like that, it makes me feel vulnerble if you understand what i mean.
i want to scream, shout, laugh..i dunno, it is so unbelievably annoying too, it just happens wherever or whenever..grrrr i need a huging warning, cos this just does me in..
this is the second time this has happened in this intensity to me in over 16 years.

I rest me case ~giggles~_wedgie_ :nyah:

seriously, it was in no way a negative feeling, it was just that shocking and that intense , i just didnt get any warning, - ive been a little low the past few days..maybe that was why I got so wacked by that.
Im thinking a lot clearer now thankfully, im not joking that was just -well i dont have a word to describe it.
id still like to know if there is a way to trace an energy's origination.

thanks for your comments.~hugs~

[TheWomanMonster]

Have any of you felt this?
When your sick and suddenly the whole world bombards you with their emotions... old friends suddenly look you up and want to spill all the sordid details of their lives?

Seems to happen to me whenever I get ill...

[Lorrie]

Have any of you felt this?
When your sick and suddenly the whole world bombards you with their emotions... old friends suddenly look you up and want to spill all the sordid details of their lives?

Seems to happen to me whenever I get ill...



Your natural and intentional shields are probably weakened when you are ill! You may be broadcasting as well as taking in and old friends are picking it up?

[Lorrie]

I rest me case ~giggles~_wedgie_ :nyah:

seriously, it was in no way a negative feeling, it was just that shocking and that intense , i just didnt get any warning, - ive been a little low the past few days..maybe that was why I got so wacked by that.
Im thinking a lot clearer now thankfully, im not joking that was just -well i dont have a word to describe it.
id still like to know if there is a way to trace an energy's origination.

thanks for your comments.~hugs~



I have no idea how to explain tracing vibes, I do it all the time but have no idea how really, I just kinda look into the energy signature until I see the source. I am glad it is all OK, if anyone had sent me anything that strong good or bad, I think I would go ballistic on them!:boing: I would feel attacked!

[Pesha]

Have any of you felt this?
When your sick and suddenly the whole world bombards you with their emotions... old friends suddenly look you up and want to spill all the sordid details of their lives?

Seems to happen to me whenever I get ill...

Happens to me all the time. I get sick and it seems everything is being picked up by me. I hate when this happens. I tend to totally shut down when I am sick due to this. When I was in the hospital in January, I had to shut down or I would have picked up everything there was. It apears as if when we are ill, we have weakened sheilds.
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When ever I have felt someone so strongly that I feel I might be attacked, I also shut down for a bit. I think that as Empaths we are natural lightening rods for all of the feelings and emotions that are floating in the atmospher. My only defense is to shut off and stay that way until I instinctually feel safe again.

[Kalika]

ok im re quoting myself here, as i obviously didnt make it clear last night.
what happened to me last night, was in NO WAY negative. This is FACT. I did say that!! LOL

see bold type LOL noting therefore that it wasnt negative. hehehehe:hahugh:

QUOTE {ME, MYSELF AND I}:lol: :

It's happening again dammit, this overwhelming feeling of empathic bond and i cant stop the bloody thing. dammit this is so huged up, it makes me feel sick every time i try to shield, maybe im not sposed to? i dont know, all i know is it is waaaay strong, not negative, but so overpowering me i am blinded by it, it is taking over me. it has been happening for the past few minutes now..sh!te i wish there was a way i could find to stop this, it takes away the control, i dont like that, it makes me feel vulnerble if you understand what i mean.
i want to scream, shout, laugh..i dunno, it is so unbelievably annoying too, it just happens wherever or whenever..grrrr i need a huging warning, cos this just does me in..
this is the second time this has happened in this intensity to me in over 16 years.

I rest me case ~giggles~_wedgie_ :nyah:

seriously, it was in no way a negative feeling, it was just that shocking and that intense , i just didnt get any warning, - ive been a little low the past few days..maybe that was why I got so wacked by that.
Im thinking a lot clearer now thankfully, im not joking that was just -well i dont have a word to describe it.
id still like to know if there is a way to trace an energy's origination.

thanks for your comments.~hugs~

:p

Are you in love? ;)

That's kinda what it sounds like....

[Shadow Angel]

um...um...er...no comment._inabox_

[Kalika]

Have any of you felt this?
When your sick and suddenly the whole world bombards you with their emotions... old friends suddenly look you up and want to spill all the sordid details of their lives?

Seems to happen to me whenever I get ill...

Hide under the covers and lock the door until it subsides.... :p

In all seriousness, you're more likely to be open to everyone when you're sick - your reserves are deplinished, and therefore your shields are weaker.

[Astara Seague]

I have to agree and those that know you well try to take advantage, even if they dont mean to, I am kind of like Pesha although I dont shut down completly I reinforce my sheilds and if its really bad I walk away for a moment to take a break to reinforce even more

[Lunacie]

I forgot my promise to check in and let you know I'm okay. http://mysticwicks.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

My head was hurting so bad yesterday http://mysticwicks.com/images/icons/icon9.gif we had a cold front knocking on our front door and a warm front knocking on our back door. In other words, we had snow falling to the west of us and tornados to the east of us. All that pain in my head and we got nothing here - no snow, no tornados. And I'm thankful that we didn't!

My head is better today but I still can't really focus, haven't been online much today. Haven't even been able to settle with my RPG computer game. Sigh. Not to mention not being able to get anything done on the ritual for our Ostara ritual this month.

[Pesha]

:hugz: Lunacie.

[Kalika]

um...um...er...no comment._inabox_

:yayah:

Know that feeling all too well. :hugz:

:wave: Lunacie. Glad to hear you are doing OK.

[Johnathan Brisby]

@ Astara Seaque: forgive them for they know not what they do

[Pesha]

Im having a lovely stress free vibration day so far. Hopefully no one will intrude on it. I have been doing so well since getting out of the hospital, thank the Great Mother. Well anyway, here's to stress free vibes for everyone!

[Kalika]

Yay Pesha! :hugz:

[Lunacie]

:yayah:

Know that feeling all too well. :hugz:

:wave: Lunacie. Glad to hear you are doing OK.

Thanks. I'm not doing "OK" but we are safe so far. These weather fronts give me horrible headaches. Today my ex-son-in-law took the youngest kid to work with him and then came back by to pick up the older one, so I had a lovely quiet day to deal with my headache in peace and quiet. Everyone is gone now except me and the cat, and the only noise is the comforting hum of the furnace blower and the not-quite-annoying hum of the hard drive.

My headaches have been predicting severe weather for over 30 years - my ex would go to work and tell his coworkers that I was cranky with a headache and they would check the barometer and -sure enough- it would be acting like a yo-yo. This time the closest tornado touch-down was about 70 miles away but with a cold front hammering on us from one side and a warm front hammering on us from the other side - my head felt like it was literally caught in a vise.

But enough of my complaints. Good to hear you're doing good Pesha. :)

[Shadow Angel]

_pounce_for Lunacie.

:hugz: for Pesha.

[Lunacie]

Thank you.

:hugz: back atcha.

[TheWomanMonster]

:wave:
hi hi.

what's up with these moodswings.
sometimes it's so hard to tell if they're mine or someone elses.

[Pesha]

:wave:
hi hi.

what's up with these moodswings.
sometimes it's so hard to tell if they're mine or someone elses.

I have the same problems sometimes. I have come to accept that it is a by product of being an empath. And I am trying to learn how to intuite what is mine better. Somedays I just want to hide under the bed. I tend to pick up others vibes more in winter. Don't know why.

[Lorrie]

Finally online again, phone still isn't quite happy yet though. Oh well, can't win em all. We really did get it all, snow, rain, sleet, ice, and thunderstorms, all in one day. Now all the slush has frozen, and is covered by a few more inches of wet, heavy snow. Warm up is ahead again though. :spaceman:

[Pesha]

Finally online again, phone still isn't quite happy yet though. Oh well, can't win em all. We really did get it all, snow, rain, sleet, ice, and thunderstorms, all in one day. Now all the slush has frozen, and is covered by a few more inches of wet, heavy snow. Warm up is ahead again though. :spaceman:

The weather this winter is totally crazy everywhere. Glad you're ok Lorrie.

[Lorrie]

We woke up to another 5-6 inches of snow on top of the ice now, I can hardly stand up in my driveway. I hate wet feet!!! I got alot of extra cleaning done while we couldn't get online!:lol: I can't do alot today, I am real sore between weather changes and having trouble walking outside, owie. Maybe I should just stay off of my feet today and cuddle babies instead._inabox_

[Kalika]

:wave:

Wow, busy place.

Sorry 'bout your migraines Lunacie... I actually had one last night. :( Sucks.

Glad to see you around Lorrie. :)

TWM - it takes some time, but you'll get to where you can sort it out, mostly. :p

[Lunacie]

Hey everyone! I'm starting to see that between my own problems and the ones my immediate family have been having that it's been hard for me to "take on" anything else emotional. Which means I haven't been reading in here or in the helping-hands or send-energy forums. I haven't been keeping in touch with friends via email like usual. Of course, looking back I generally tend to go through a slump in late January and February. It's a good thing it's a short month, eh? :lol:

This week I've noticed the trees budding out and green grass starting to show in the yard - but this morning we woke up to cold weather again. Thank goodness we didn't get snow or ice or BOTH like at Lorrie's house. But cold enough to make my knee ache again and my head is still feeling very thick and muzzy. I always hurt worse in the spring but I enjoy everything else about spring.

[LostSheep]

hey Lunacie.

Glad you're surviving the weather.

the blossom's coming out here. And the birds are gathering.

i hope this is a good sign.

[LostSheep]

Maybe I should just stay off of my feet today and cuddle babies instead._inabox_ i recommend sheep.

_inabox_

[Lorrie]

i recommend sheep.

_inabox_

I would agree to that, sheep and babies are both very cuddly!!! I keep hearing spring time bird songs, and I trust the birds, they had better not be lying to me!:lol:
I haven't been able to go into the energy threads for a really long time, I usually send strength and comfort generically, and let it go where it is needed, how it is needed.
Ex-bf got his job, he should be almost home to Maine- he hasn't called that place home since he was 18! I have been e-mailing with his mom now too, she let me know that he still has very strong feelings for me and would love to be back together, but he understands why I won't. I wonder if he really DOES understand it. Being alone seems to have done him some good, gave him some times to think and look at the situation. I wonder if he does actually realize how bad he got. He can no longer blame everything on me, he only has himself to blame when he screws up now, I will never be his "problem" again. We get along great as friends, he doesn't put me down or tell me how to be, how I should think, how I should live. It was odd how we hadn't spoke after he left here in November, and out of the blue he called a few days after Jamie died. I had debated whether to call him, but really didn't want to talk to him because of his attitude, and he had never been real nice to Jamie- or anyone else related to me for that matter. He didn't know why he called, he just kept getting the feeling he needed to call me. I can sense his feelings on the phone, and I feel bad that I cannot feel the same way towards him. I think we were just meant to be friends and nothing else. I just cannot be in a relationship, I end up dedicating my whole life to the other person, and I let go of me, and end up miserable. I am so much happier when I am single, I LOVE to be alone.

[Kalika]

:hugz: Lorrie.

[Pesha]

:hugz: Lunacie and Lorrie.

I saw a Robin yesterday. But it is still cold here. Was 8F this morning when I was up doing stuff. Brrrrrr!!

Some of the trees are getting their leaf buds. I hate Winter!!

[He who seeks]

*hugs everyone*

Just feeling discontent at the moment

[Lunacie]

*hugs everyone*

Just feeling discontent at the moment

Me too.

*hugs Hws back*
:hugz:

[mithrilmoon]

Most people I know are down, discontent or even ill right now. It's endemic!

I've had tiredness and virus-like symptoms for a week, myself, and have felt depressed. Usually I fight depression with all I have.

I am doing so now, and thankfully I am feeling more positive but the heavy eyes, headaches, exhaustion etc persist.

Are we networking this thing to each other by accident?

[Lunacie]

I don't think so, dearling, I've seen it happening on another discussion board as well. And it's not just the Empaths here who seem to be feeling this malaise. Give it another week or two and we'll get that 'Spring' back in our steps. :)

[Kalika]

I sure hope so. Last night was a rough night all around... getting angry isn't good for me in my old age. :lol:

[damnopin]

Seems all quite normal to me. In the beginning perhaps in our teens we are like slaves to others emotions whether they are near or far. That passes, of course, as time progresses, and we remain vigilant in our purpose of refining the gift. It is no curse, unless you allow it to be so. Your age is irrelevant regarding when the refinement may actually be substantial enough to never become effected by the energy patterns of others around or across the ways.

[Shadow Angel]

from another thread:
Quote:
Originally Posted by redbint http://www.mysticwicks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=3019885#post3019885)
Why is everyone so miserable?? Yeah I've a rubbish couple of months and I'm still smiling (- just about!) I only check in every so often, but just lately people seem really down, there used to be a really good buzz going on here but it seems to have disappeared. Is it coz PD isn't on here much? Is it the time of year? Is it coz there are people not happy with the way their lives are going?

PLEASE everyone - cheer up!

CAN someone please do a spell or something to get rid of the big cloud of doom and gloom that is hanging over this site?!

quote: me:

Blimey girl give it a chance!! LOL

youve only been here a short time, sometimes it happens, of course, but we are a community and we all are close, and sometimes the negativity and emotion affects us all together, as well as outside. Alot of us are friends.
But I am very happy to say that it never lasts long. As with anything, it has its ups and downs.You'll see.:cheers:

[Lorrie]

There has been some changes in the universal vibes going on, maybe it and the affect of the planets are throwing everyone off a little until all adjusts to the changes again. Empaths are not only dealing with their own changes, but also getting hit by the effects of everyone else too. Be calm and take one situation at a time to deal with.

[LostSheep]

I'm staying in here. _inabox_

[Shadow Angel]

yes, i think i might hide in my box for a while too..._inabox_

[Pesha]

First off..hugs and healing to everyone here. We need some good positive vibes flowing for sure. It must be the time of year. I have felt so slowed down lately. Winter is really getting to me and where I live Spring really doesn't pop up till almost May. Ugh living in the mountains can be such a drag. But I am sending out the light kiddos to all you.

I don't think we are consciously infecting eachother with malaise etc. but it is as was already stated a by product of the Winter blahs. We as emapths, I do beleive feel it stronger then others. As it is our nature to do so.

So here is :hugz: X 100,000,000 to all of you darlings.

[mithrilmoon]

yes, i think i might hide in my box for a while too..._inabox_


I've broken out of my box once and for all!

Well and truly...

But right now, darn it, I have a headache.

[Shadow Angel]

I have a headache and I feel sick...

Life's problems are starting to take their toll -I'm going into overload with emotion here..I cant get free of it tonight..grrrr ~is frustrated with herself~

I cannot calm myself from this..''announcement''...it is more than a shock..

I need to re-charge..Im trying, but I just dont have the strength tonight..

I hope tomorrow is better..

[Pesha]

Mercury is in retrograde. Could explain alot of things going on lately.

[He who seeks]

mmmif i knew what that ment.....*mental note learn more about astrology*

its a funny feeling this what ever it is, though i have to admit im not affected to it as much as i though, i got a low feeling and through that saw that i was unhappy because i saw myself not acheiving what i wanted at the moment.

I know better and tell myself i need patience and focus on the closer thing more to bring those distant closer to me. if i know what i want after this year then i should be happy.

Im over it now, my labrinth mind sheild seems to hold well against it and striving forward.

my advice get over yourself, pick on the realisation you are acheieving great things but need to keep them in clear context, Stick with it.....rewards are round the corner



In hopes of spreading this calm clarity i shall call apon the Happy karma hugs pictures

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p187/Tokarski/everythingisfinenow.jpg


so feel the love of the karma hugging tiger

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p187/Tokarski/image005.jpg

[Diotima]

I've been down too.

Partly, it's because of my RL having been so stressful, but part...I haven't been able to explain. I feel like a slug moving in a barrell of tar. Slightly depressed, very much stagnating in life.
Usually, I have been able to draw strength from my spirituality, but lately even that hasn't worked. When I pray, I can't feel Light's prescence...my best Tarot deck won't give me intelligible readings...and of course, my astral parts seem to be totally numb too.

Thank you for listening- I had to get that off my chest. I was strangely relieved, reading all your posts. Maybe it's just this season, and maybe we are so strongly affected because we are so sensitive.
I want to believe in that- it's much nicer thought than thinking just that I'm a mess and somehow personally responsible for being so.

*hugs to everyone*

[Shadow Angel]

mmmif i knew what that ment.....*mental note learn more about astrology*

its a funny feeling this what ever it is, though i have to admit im not affected to it as much as i though, i got a low feeling and through that saw that i was unhappy because i saw myself not acheiving what i wanted at the moment.

I know better and tell myself i need patience and focus on the closer thing more to bring those distant closer to me. if i know what i want after this year then i should be happy.

Im over it now, my labrinth mind sheild seems to hold well against it and striving forward.

my advice get over yourself, pick on the realisation you are acheieving great things but need to keep them in clear context, Stick with it.....rewards are round the corner



In hopes of spreading this calm clarity i shall call apon the Happy karma hugs pictures

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p187/Tokarski/everythingisfinenow.jpg


so feel the love of the karma hugging tiger

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p187/Tokarski/image005.jpg

Grrrrreat pictures. ~purrs~:lookwhats

[Kalika]

mmmif i knew what that ment.....*mental note learn more about astrology*



:p Mercury in retrograde tends to generate a lot of tension, anxiety, etc. (Just so ya know.)

:hugz: Diotima. That's what the Bunker is here for.

[Astara Seague]

Im digging out
the weather has broken :cheers: heres to warmer days and happier thoughts!:sunny:

[mithrilmoon]

:p Mercury in retrograde tends to generate a lot of tension, anxiety, etc. (Just so ya know.)

:hugz: Diotima. That's what the Bunker is here for.


Yes, I knww about the retrograde thing. And about the dampening effect it also has on communications.

But I am exhausted. I don't feel better yet, I feel worse. Always tired, totally lacking in energy, and after exercise - almost limp!

This is just NOT me.

Hope we all get our physical and emotional strength back very soon.

[Kalika]

Me too. :p I can't heal without any energy, and my arm is still killing me. Rawr.

Ok, anyways. :huddle: Everyone, this week is going to get better.

[Lorrie]

Yep, dumb ol' planets just won't behave themselves and run around correctly, everywhere people are all saying the same thing as here. It is taking a toll on everyone, and of course this is also a rough time for anyone with seasonal .....um....affective? disorder, yeah, what ever that label is. It is just one of those times when you need to just sit back and let it all get past, time to relax, meditate, wait for it all to pass by.This, too, shall pass. Huh,yeah, the story of my life!!!!_inabox_ . We are the lucky ones, we have a nice little home away from home on this thread to come and rant our fool heads off in, and instead of everyone getting mad for it, they join ya, they know just how you feel, really, they do!!!!!:hahugh: :huddle: :huddle: :huddle: GROUP HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gee, I haven't said that in a really long time, I used to post that at least once a day on MW somewhere!

[LostSheep]

:huddle: :huddle: :huddle: GROUP HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*offers daisy* :flowers:

[Lorrie]

*offers daisy* :flowers:




Daisies are good too, I have them growing all around my house because they are a happy flower!

http://bestsmileys.com/flowers/7.gifhttp://bestsmileys.com/flowers/8.gif

[Selenite]

Haven't been in here forever but wanted to pop by and wave hello! I'm without reliable internet access right now but that should be ending once my fiance and I move into our new place. He's an empath as well, never knew what it was that he felt and that there was a name for it until I explained it. It's wonderful though to be with someone who understands completely what it's like to be empathic. My life has been wild lately, I'm taking time off of college and am going to have a baby! I'm due April 8 and we know that he'll be a boy. We're really excited, I'm so nervous but I know it'll turn out well, my health has stayed very good and the baby is growing right along schedule and seems in perfect health as well.

I don't know if any of you were affected by the storms we had recently but I hope you were all ok, we lost power for a week here in my town, and we had a lot of my family staying at our house for that week (an aunt, uncle, their 5 year old and 3 week old, and my grandmother with her 3 neurotic cats). We had a gas stove to keep us heated and the water heater is gas powered too, a generator to run periodically to keep things from spoiling so we weren't too badly off. But having that many people cooped up for so long had me lurking in my room to get away from all that emotion. I was actually excited to go to work each day! :lol:

:hugz: to all and I hope that I'll be getting internet soon, so that I'll be more of a regular here!

[Lunacie]

Hi Selenite. :wave: Congratulations on the new living space and the new baby! I don't know whether having a colicky baby was hard on me because of the Empathy with a baby who was hurting or because I have Sensitive hearing and the cries of a colicky baby go straight through my brain, short circuiting it completely so that I can hear is the crying. I went though that twice, once with my daughter and once with my granddaughter. I hope your baby is born healthy and happy and has no colic. ;)

[Pesha]

Im digging out
the weather has broken :cheers: heres to warmer days and happier thoughts!:sunny:

I hear you sis!!

BTW I love He who Seeks pics.

[mithrilmoon]

Yes, I knww about the retrograde thing. And about the dampening effect it also has on communications.

But I am exhausted. I don't feel better yet, I feel worse. Always tired, totally lacking in energy, and after exercise - almost limp!

This is just NOT me.

Hope we all get our physical and emotional strength back very soon.


I badly injured my left arm just before Christmas. As a result I am STILL partially disabled - unbelievably - and in daily pain.

The other day I twisted this same arm in a bizarre and unlikely manner - OUCH. It hurts even more now. And my heavy eyes, headaches, eye twitch problems etc just won't go away!

Sigh.

[ravenmyst]

twas a beauty of a day here, despite everything else

[ravenmyst]

:hugz: allergies is my latest, all others have healed, have some energy on me, only avoid knee energy, mine might still be tainted

[Lunacie]

I badly injured my left arm just before Christmas. As a result I am STILL partially disabled - unbelievably - and in daily pain.

The other day I twisted this same arm in a bizarre and unlikely manner - OUCH. It hurts even more now. And my heavy eyes, headaches, eye twitch problems etc just won't go away!

Sigh.

That kind of constant pain can really wear on one. I fell and hurt my knee before Thanksgiving and it seemed it was getting more painful and stiffer every day. My sleep was suffering because the pain kept waking me. I really didn't think anything was seriously wrong, just that I had wrenched it or that my fibromyalgia was worse than usual - even though I know what the fibro feels like and this was different.

Then one morning in February I woke up and stretched all over and the knee went "pop". Apparently it had been dislocated and it went back into place all by itself. I talked to some folks and got some physical therapy exercise to do to keep it getting better so it wouldn't go out again. I hope you've talked to someone about your arm and are getting it taken care of.

[mithrilmoon]

Thank you, Lunacie. I am still on strong painkillers for the arm. It's much much better than it was at the end of last year but is still far from better.

And like so many others, I can't sleep at present. I feel tired and even weary, yet I toss and turn.

It is dearly to be hoped that this will soon pass - and free us all!

[Lunacie]

I don't know what changed for me, but I slept pretty good last night for a change. I don't know if this will last for any length of time, but I sure feel better today. Of course my family is sick again so that has me worried (tummy ache and diahreah :( ).

[Kalika]

:wave:

Hi ya'll. I think I'm back on an even keel today, finally. This week has felt like a rollercoaster, for sure. Had a Dr's appt this morning - hairline fracture in my arm - guess that's what I get for beating the crap out of somebody.

Anyways, I hope everyone else is feeling better! :huddle:

[LostSheep]

:awwman:

*offers cake*

[Kalika]

Thanks Sheepie.

[Lorrie]

The weather has made my pain alot worse for several weeks again, I can sleep only because my pain meds knock me out! I have nonstop pain all the time but the meds do help take the edge off. The attorney that I had suggested that my doctor should have me tested for something like RSD, or RDS, something, sympathetic,disorder, reflexive maybe? it is something to do with an occasional side effect of nerve damage. I have never done it, suddenly it was covered on the news a few nights ago, I had been thinking about this stuff,suddenly there it is on the TV. I am kinda feeling like maybe it is a sign that I need to have it checked out. I really hope it is NOT my problem, the needles used for treatment, ickyuckowie, I do not handle needles well. I don't think my pain is severe enough to be that disorder though.

[Pesha]

I have no idea what is going on with me. During the day I feel calm, then at night I begin to feel aggitated and can't sleep. I am really getting frustrated. Things in the house at night are quiet. Everyone is sleeping. So I have no idea what is the matter. I have gone back and looked at al the links I have had with people to make sure those that needed to be severed were. And for the life of me I can't see what the trouble is. Sighs.

[Kalika]

Too quiet maybe? Sometimes that gets me.

[Lorrie]

Or any type of unfinished business? That gets me often!!!

[Kalika]

I don't know what my prob is lately, but I haven't been sleeping that great for awhile either. I think last night I just crashed... which isn't really sleep... it's more like being dead. :p

[Lorrie]

That is how I sleep every night, I only take my pain meds at night, one a night because they are so strong they have their strongest effect while I am sleeping. It is really bad if there is an emergency during the night, I was always having to run into town when Jamie was pregnant to take care of kids while she ran into the hospital to have contractions stopped. They were about 15 minutes away, it was such a difficult drive, if I have to get up before 8 hours of sleep, the meds give me this really awful nasty headache. I love my meds.

[ladyraven]

I've been restless at night as well. It almost seems like something is trying to wake me up, but it could also just be my imagination.

[Kalika]

I love my meds.

I'm flushing mine down the toilet. Hate the damn things, but they did me some good today. I have a pretty high pain tolerance, which is lucky for me. :p Or not. You know... I'm not really sure if that's a good thing or a bad one sometimes. Hmm.

(Don't mind my crazy rambling.... I do that occasionally.)

[Shadow Angel]

Ugh..I got brain-drain tonight...

[Lorrie]

I'm flushing mine down the toilet. Hate the damn things, but they did me some good today. I have a pretty high pain tolerance, which is lucky for me. :p Or not. You know... I'm not really sure if that's a good thing or a bad one sometimes. Hmm.

(Don't mind my crazy rambling.... I do that occasionally.)



I do it all the time.:boing:

[Pesha]

I took two of my Ultracet last night and finally slept. Usually only use them gfor migraines and extreme knee ach. But I had to sleep or I would have gone nutters. Guess you do what you have to do.

[Kalika]

:hugz: Yeah... do what you gotta do.

People here are acting crazy today... and there aren't even that many of them here yet. Never a good sign.

[Astara Seague]

I have a hard time with sleeping as well nearly every night, sometimes I am so afraid I will become so addicted to sleeeping pills that they wont help me anymore, so anyway, I tried Head on PM Avon had some and surprisingly enough it helps, all you do it apply it to your forehead needless to say I am impressed, I really hate that groggy morning after taking sleeping pills feelings and I dont get it with that.

[Kalika]

That's interesting... I've never heard of that. Hmm. Might be handy to have some just for these bouts of insomnia I seem to have lately.

[Astara Seague]

the heavyness that has been surronding me for a few weeks seems to be lifting!!
thats a great sign!!:boing:

[Kalika]

:woot:

[Pesha]

the heavyness that has been surronding me for a few weeks seems to be lifting!!
thats a great sign!!:boing:


Mercury has finally gone out of retrograde!!!!! Hurray!!!:boing:

[Lorrie]

Back into the bunker where everyone understands, a place of safety. When life gets to be too much, this is the place for refuge. Some days are too much, ya gotta run away someplace where no one will look for you and you can find some peace. I think I have reached burnout overload, if there is such a thing.It really sucks when you don't know if this is your lesson to learn, or if you are an innocent bystander in someone elses lesson. I am so tired out. It's been a rough one today, and I am feeling the shutdown creeping in once again. I don't want to shut down, I have things to do, I don't have time for shut down.

[Pesha]

Hold on to all of us honey. Don't shut down. We are here and will help if we can. Hugs and light and love flow to you Lorrie,

[LostSheep]

Back into the bunker where everyone understands, a place of safety. When life gets to be too much, this is the place for refuge. Some days are too much, ya gotta run away someplace where no one will look for you and you can find some peace. I think I have reached burnout overload, if there is such a thing.It really sucks when you don't know if this is your lesson to learn, or if you are an innocent bystander in someone elses lesson. I am so tired out. It's been a rough one today, and I am feeling the shutdown creeping in once again. I don't want to shut down, I have things to do, I don't have time for shut down.

I know.

:hugz:

:flowers:

[Lunacie]

Ya know how with the computer you can either do a complete shutdown, or you can set it to go to "sleep mode" if you're away from the keyboard/mouse for more than a set time? It could be we just need to set our sensitivity to "sleep" for a little while, not do a complete shutdown. I think maybe I've always done that, or maybe I'm just using the words "shut down" differently. I've been in "sleep mode" for several days now, which means I'm not -really- connecting with my family, I'm in kind of a fog, and probably won't remember if anything needs to get done or if anything in particular happens. I did miss my ADD support group on Monday night. The facilitator called me Tuesday to see if I was okay because that's one group I NEVER miss.

To say how I see the difference, when I'm in "shut down mode" I don't get out of the house at all, don't even answer the phone, barely talk to the family, don't get any housework done, don't even take a shower.

eta... when I'm that bad I only lurk, I read posts but I very rarely respond.

[Kalika]

Back into the bunker where everyone understands, a place of safety. When life gets to be too much, this is the place for refuge. Some days are too much, ya gotta run away someplace where no one will look for you and you can find some peace. I think I have reached burnout overload, if there is such a thing.It really sucks when you don't know if this is your lesson to learn, or if you are an innocent bystander in someone elses lesson. I am so tired out. It's been a rough one today, and I am feeling the shutdown creeping in once again. I don't want to shut down, I have things to do, I don't have time for shut down.

:hugz: You know I'm here hon.

[Kalika]

Ya know how with the computer you can either do a complete shutdown, or you can set it to go to "sleep mode" if you're away from the keyboard/mouse for more than a set time? It could be we just need to set our sensitivity to "sleep" for a little while, not do a complete shutdown. I think maybe I've always done that, or maybe I'm just using the words "shut down" differently. I've been in "sleep mode" for several days now, which means I'm not -really- connecting with my family, I'm in kind of a fog, and probably won't remember if anything needs to get done or if anything in particular happens. I did miss my ADD support group on Monday night. The facilitator called me Tuesday to see if I was okay because that's one group I NEVER miss.

To say how I see the difference, when I'm in "shut down mode" I don't get out of the house at all, don't even answer the phone, barely talk to the family, don't get any housework done, don't even take a shower.

eta... when I'm that bad I only lurk, I read posts but I very rarely respond.

I get that way when I need to heal or when I'm helping someone. I can maintain the facade of being engaged... but I'm really not - not connected, not interested, not motivated. Whenever I come out of that, it's like everything that went on during that time was less than real, but I can at least remember everything. :p

[Lorrie]

I am afraid the shut down isn't something that I do, it is something that happens when things are too rough. I have had it happen several times over the past several months, it is very frustrating, it is just my mind protecting itself. I can try to fight it all I want, but if things don't calm, it will happen. I had a long chat with Child of the Morrigan last night, she is worried that my son hasn't and isn't dealing with Jamies death. I see him using it for sympathy, and to get out of things he doesn't want to deal with. I have watched his business partner brainwash my him, something that would normally NEVER happen. My son has become very irresponsible with his kids. I am hoping last night was a one time thing. He KNOWS better. I am afraid there is nothing more I can do, if I try he gets worse like last night, going out and drinking and driving with the kids in his car. After the kids went to bed, he left and hasn't come back. I just saw him sign in to his IM, so I now finally know he is safe. The only thing I can do now is to back off and hope he does some thinking, this is NOT like him, but then I don't really know how he is anymore either. Thanks everyone, I will be OK, I always am.

[Kalika]

:hugz: Lorrie.

Would he be willing to go to grief counseling? Maybe that would help, or at least eliminate one possibility for his behavior if it doesn't.

[Lorrie]

I get that way when I need to heal or when I'm helping someone. I can maintain the facade of being engaged... but I'm really not - not connected, not interested, not motivated. Whenever I come out of that, it's like everything that went on during that time was less than real, but I can at least remember everything. :p



yes, to Lunacie too, that is all it is, I'llbe OK once it all calms down

[Lunacie]

Yes, I know, its like the computer overloads and shuts down by itself. I was saying that maybe if we choose to use "sleep mode" when we notice we're getting overloaded, that maybe we can manage to avoid "crashing"? I haven't ever tried this, at least not consciously, but I was wondering if there isn't something we can do to avoid that crash.

[Astara Seague]

I am afraid the shut down isn't something that I do, it is something that happens when things are too rough. I have had it happen several times over the past several months, it is very frustrating, it is just my mind protecting itself. I can try to fight it all I want, but if things don't calm, it will happen. I had a long chat with Child of the Morrigan last night, she is worried that my son hasn't and isn't dealing with Jamies death. I see him using it for sympathy, and to get out of things he doesn't want to deal with. I have watched his business partner brainwash my him, something that would normally NEVER happen. My son has become very irresponsible with his kids. I am hoping last night was a one time thing. He KNOWS better. I am afraid there is nothing more I can do, if I try he gets worse like last night, going out and drinking and driving with the kids in his car. After the kids went to bed, he left and hasn't come back. I just saw him sign in to his IM, so I now finally know he is safe. The only thing I can do now is to back off and hope he does some thinking, this is NOT like him, but then I don't really know how he is anymore either. Thanks everyone, I will be OK, I always am.I am in no way trying to justify his behavior but maybe that is the way he deals, when I lost my son I hate to admit it but I got quite irresponsible, I needed something to heal the pain and I couldnt find it, I felt no one in this world could possibly understand what I was feeling, I didnt know what else to do I guess you could say I shut down from my responsibitys and hid so I could regenerate, he is very lucky to have you , my Mom pretty much disowned me

[Lorrie]

I am in no way trying to justify his behavior but maybe that is the way he deals, when I lost my son I hate to admit it but I got quite irresponsible, I needed something to heal the pain and I couldnt find it, I felt no one in this world could possibly understand what I was feeling, I didnt know what else to do I guess you could say I shut down from my responsibitys and hid so I could regenerate, he is very lucky to have you , my Mom pretty much disowned me


Any advice? My son and I have always been extremely close, he knows I will never turn my back on him. I am so afraid of the kids being harmed in this.

[Lorrie]

Things have got a little better today, he went down and began to try to get something done about his food stamps. He has begun to try to line up another job so he has something when the store moves and he goes to online sales. I am hoping that these little things will give him the feeling like he has some control over his life. Sometimes that is all it takes to get back into life again and be able to see what is really going on. We'll see how it goes now. It at least tells me that I did get him thinking, and trying to make some effort towards helping himself get out of the rut he is in. It's a start.

[Astara Seague]

Any advice? My son and I have always been extremely close, he knows I will never turn my back on him. I am so afraid of the kids being harmed in this.nothing really helped, I just had to come to terms with everything and then eventually I came back around.. It just took some time.. I know its hard to just let it be, Id say just keep a eye out on the kids and just let him know you do care

[Pesha]

Lorrie, I am not exactly sure of what is going on, but I can tell you from my own experience with my own son, that a mothers love can and does help so much. I went thru alot with my boy and now am able to watch him groew into a fine husband and father. Energies sent to you with hugs.

[Lorrie]

It is much better today. Before he left he made sure to give me a HUGE hug and thank me. I didn't have to ask what for. He has told me many times that when I QUIT "bugging him", then he will worry, as long as I am "bugging" him, I still care! Yes, he has my weirdness. Maybe that is why we are so close! He has tested my dedication to him many times over and knows that I am always there for him, no matter what. I am already pounding that into my grandbabies. I ask them does grandma love you when you are good? Yeeees. Does grandma love you when you are naughty? Yeees. Does grandma love you always and always and forever and ever no matter what? Yeeeeees. How much does grandma love you? They get tickled at this point and they giggle " all to pieces" My kids KNOW it is true!

[LostSheep]

It is much better today. Before he left he made sure to give me a HUGE hug and thank me. I didn't have to ask what for. He has told me many times that when I QUIT "bugging him", then he will worry, as long as I am "bugging" him, I still care! Yes, he has my weirdness. Maybe that is why we are so close! He has tested my dedication to him many times over and knows that I am always there for him, no matter what. I am already pounding that into my grandbabies. I ask them does grandma love you when you are good? Yeeees. Does grandma love you when you are naughty? Yeees. Does grandma love you always and always and forever and ever no matter what? Yeeeeees. How much does grandma love you? They get tickled at this point and they giggle " all to pieces" My kids KNOW it is true!

:)

[Lorrie]

Yeah, I guess he wouldn't be my Ry if he didn't test moms dedication and patience at least twice a year. You should see what this brat does on April Fools Day, it is NOT safe to get out of bed that day!!!!!!:lol:
Lots of hugs to ya, Sheepie!!!!:hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: And :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers: :flowers:

[Pesha]

:hugz: X 100.000,000 Lorrie.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have not slept in five days. I am going crazy. The doc refuses to do anyhting for me. It is a wierd way he has of punishing you for not going into the office. But I am do deprived I can hardly walk. Anyway please don't mind me if I come off sounding a bit crazy. I may have to go into shut down mode, I jsut don't know what to do.

[Lorrie]

We can get boxes and put them next to Sheepie and have our own little box city!!!!_inabox_ _inabox_ _inabox_

[Kalika]

:hugz: Pesha and Lorrie.

[Avalonia]

This is going to be a bit weird, but tonight was the first time that I actually picked up on some form of supressed hatred, I think, I don't know what else it would be. A friend and I aren't on the best terms at all, and she came by a little while with someone I hadn't seen in a few years. I didn't feel good about it beforehand, but it got progressively worse, building into a headache, shaking, and the overwhelming feeling of possible vomitting (I can still taste the bile in my mouth). Had they stayed around any longer, I would've had to leave - the headache was nearly driving me to tears. Whenever they got silent, I felt it - I could feel her wishing I wasn't there. This room is too small - I can pick up on the vibrations too easily. And the feeling is still here... still lingering. I'm still shaking.

Ugh. Then again, I went against my better judgement and stayed here. I should've left - even if I was down in the lobby or something. It's not like the other two would've noticed me not there, anyway.

It's weird because I was telling my roommate that I would be feeling awkward afterwards - I wasn't expecting to feel downright ill. xPP Strange how just the presence of someone can just completely crush me. This has never happened before, at least not to this extent.

(Sorry, I'm just trying to put into words the super weird feeling I have right now. I went longer than I should have, probably.)

[Lorrie]

Hehehehehehe, that is probably one of the shortest I have seen on here actually! You are safe here, believe me. This is our little safe house, away from evil society!:wave: Try to release some energy and see if it helps the headache.

[Astara Seague]

We can get boxes and put them next to Sheepie and have our own little box city!!!!_inabox_ _inabox_ _inabox_
_inabox_ moves in _inabox_

[Kalika]

This is going to be a bit weird, but tonight was the first time that I actually picked up on some form of supressed hatred, I think, I don't know what else it would be. A friend and I aren't on the best terms at all, and she came by a little while with someone I hadn't seen in a few years. I didn't feel good about it beforehand, but it got progressively worse, building into a headache, shaking, and the overwhelming feeling of possible vomitting (I can still taste the bile in my mouth). Had they stayed around any longer, I would've had to leave - the headache was nearly driving me to tears. Whenever they got silent, I felt it - I could feel her wishing I wasn't there. This room is too small - I can pick up on the vibrations too easily. And the feeling is still here... still lingering. I'm still shaking.

Ugh. Then again, I went against my better judgement and stayed here. I should've left - even if I was down in the lobby or something. It's not like the other two would've noticed me not there, anyway.

It's weird because I was telling my roommate that I would be feeling awkward afterwards - I wasn't expecting to feel downright ill. xPP Strange how just the presence of someone can just completely crush me. This has never happened before, at least not to this extent.

(Sorry, I'm just trying to put into words the super weird feeling I have right now. I went longer than I should have, probably.)

:hugz: Tael.

Try grounding yourself, and letting go of some of that energy that you picked up. Hopefully that will help. Hopefully you also won't need to see this person again any time soon, but if you do, you can be prepared for it.

[Pesha]

This is going to be a bit weird, but tonight was the first time that I actually picked up on some form of supressed hatred, I think, I don't know what else it would be. A friend and I aren't on the best terms at all, and she came by a little while with someone I hadn't seen in a few years. I didn't feel good about it beforehand, but it got progressively worse, building into a headache, shaking, and the overwhelming feeling of possible vomitting (I can still taste the bile in my mouth). Had they stayed around any longer, I would've had to leave - the headache was nearly driving me to tears. Whenever they got silent, I felt it - I could feel her wishing I wasn't there. This room is too small - I can pick up on the vibrations too easily. And the feeling is still here... still lingering. I'm still shaking.

Ugh. Then again, I went against my better judgement and stayed here. I should've left - even if I was down in the lobby or something. It's not like the other two would've noticed me not there, anyway.

It's weird because I was telling my roommate that I would be feeling awkward afterwards - I wasn't expecting to feel downright ill. xPP Strange how just the presence of someone can just completely crush me. This has never happened before, at least not to this extent.

(Sorry, I'm just trying to put into words the super weird feeling I have right now. I went longer than I should have, probably.)

One of the downsides of being an empath lovey. All you can do is acknowledge the feelings and cleanse them. And learn from them. We are lucky in the sense we do have a kind of radar when it comes to being around people. Next time it happens, gewt out of the range of the people involved and pass the energies you absorbed into the universe.

:hugz: You will be ok. And now you may have learned something about this friend.

[Shadow Angel]

am picking up a friend's energies...not good...feeling a little uneasy....they are so worked up, and I can feel it, taste it even..I hate it when people are like this, it hurts me to see them like this...

[Lorrie]

am picking up a friend's energies...not good...feeling a little uneasy....they are so worked up, and I can feel it, taste it even..I hate it when people are like this, it hurts me to see them like this...



One of the things we had been trying on here was to take the energy you are feeling, take it and change it to a nice relaxing kind of energy, and send it back with some strength. Unless you don't like the person, then well, give them whatever. The main thing I think is the strength and comfort, it is usually helpful in about any situation without interfering in free will. It will often also help you in the process of it.

[Shadow Angel]

omg..all this time..and I never once thought of that, I usually try to send something 'fresh' rather than using their energy, but it is a wonderful idea, and I will try it. Thank you so much for that.xx
:fpraise:

[Lunacie]

:hugz: X 100.000,000 Lorrie.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I have not slept in five days. I am going crazy. The doc refuses to do anyhting for me. It is a wierd way he has of punishing you for not going into the office. But I am do deprived I can hardly walk. Anyway please don't mind me if I come off sounding a bit crazy. I may have to go into shut down mode, I jsut don't know what to do.

When I get to that point (which thankfully hasn't been for quite a while) I take a benedryl. Those things always put me to sleep. Of course, you wouldn't want to take them every night for more than a couple of nights, but that might be enough to reset your internal sleep clock.

Something else that may work is Melatonin, you can find that in the supplement aisle. Safe enough we've even given it to my granddaughter when she was just 8, and it did help.

Hugs and sleepy vibes to you Pesha. :hugz: :sleepybed :zzz:

[Lunacie]

This is going to be a bit weird, but tonight was the first time that I actually picked up on some form of supressed hatred, I think, I don't know what else it would be. A friend and I aren't on the best terms at all, and she came by a little while with someone I hadn't seen in a few years. I didn't feel good about it beforehand, but it got progressively worse, building into a headache, shaking, and the overwhelming feeling of possible vomitting (I can still taste the bile in my mouth). Had they stayed around any longer, I would've had to leave - the headache was nearly driving me to tears. Whenever they got silent, I felt it - I could feel her wishing I wasn't there. This room is too small - I can pick up on the vibrations too easily. And the feeling is still here... still lingering. I'm still shaking.

Ugh. Then again, I went against my better judgement and stayed here. I should've left - even if I was down in the lobby or something. It's not like the other two would've noticed me not there, anyway.

It's weird because I was telling my roommate that I would be feeling awkward afterwards - I wasn't expecting to feel downright ill. xPP Strange how just the presence of someone can just completely crush me. This has never happened before, at least not to this extent.

(Sorry, I'm just trying to put into words the super weird feeling I have right now. I went longer than I should have, probably.)

I've heard that hatred is a poison that harms the container it's in the most. If you felt it so strongly from outside, I can only imagine how it's eating away at your former friend. Ewww.

The advice to do a grounding is good I think, to release the negativity into the earth to be recycled and to draw positivity into yourself to replace it and recharge your own spirit. Take care of yourself.

[Lorrie]

omg..all this time..and I never once thought of that, I usually try to send something 'fresh' rather than using their energy, but it is a wonderful idea, and I will try it. Thank you so much for that.xx
:fpraise:



Welcome anytime, that is what our nice little safe house here is for!!! :wave: I hope it helps! if nothing else, sometimes sending the energy out can help the headaches that come with too much energy from other people!( Release the energy, and it may alleviate the headaches).

[Lorrie]

Oh, and by the way, it is also fun to use on a cashier having a bad day too!

[Lunacie]

am picking up a friend's energies...not good...feeling a little uneasy....they are so worked up, and I can feel it, taste it even..I hate it when people are like this, it hurts me to see them like this...

One of the things we had been trying on here was to take the energy you are feeling, take it and change it to a nice relaxing kind of energy, and send it back with some strength. Unless you don't like the person, then well, give them whatever. The main thing I think is the strength and comfort, it is usually helpful in about any situation without interfering in free will. It will often also help you in the process of it.

I forgot we were taking about doing that. Good answer. :thumbsup:

And good memory. :lol:

[Lorrie]

I forgot we were taking about doing that. Good answer. :thumbsup:

And good memory. :lol:



it's cuz I use this stuff so much!!!:hahugh: :wave: Glad to see ya, hun, hope all is going good! I am trying real hard to blank out the situation with my son and keep it from affecting me. I know that sounds mean, but I have to keep myself up to take care of his kids. The whole thing has put a huge strain on the whole family. He doesn't even sleep here any more, because I told him that I didn't want her sleeping here, so after the kids are in bed, he leaves for the night and stays with her- yes, EVERY night. He doesn't sleep in the same house as his own kids. It is so hard to shove it all aside and concentrate on the kids.

[Lunacie]

it's cuz I use this stuff so much!!!:hahugh: :wave: Glad to see ya, hun, hope all is going good! I am trying real hard to blank out the situation with my son and keep it from affecting me. I know that sounds mean, but I have to keep myself up to take care of his kids. The whole thing has put a huge strain on the whole family. He doesn't even sleep here any more, because I told him that I didn't want her sleeping here, so after the kids are in bed, he leaves for the night and stays with her- yes, EVERY night. He doesn't sleep in the same house as his own kids. It is so hard to shove it all aside and concentrate on the kids.

Ouch, that sucks. I'm sure he's looking for comfort and support to get through this himself - good thing the kids are so little still - and good thing they've got their gramma. :hugz:

It sounds like you and your son have as strong a connection as my daughter and I do. Her bf's father is in the hospital again - he has a bad heart - and they were talking about how lost and lonely the bf would be if his father died. They're very close too. My daughter told me again that she doesn't know what she'd do without me. Not just that I help with the kids and stuff, but that we've always been best friends. I said that hopefully by the time I cross over her daughters will be old enough to be her best friends. She says maybe that will happen with the oldest one.

Her father died 3 years ago, and her ex has Parkinson's and since he's 12 years older than her the odds are he won't be around any longer than I will. She looks down that road and it looks very lonely to her. She's always hated being an only child.

[Lorrie]

I feel very lucky to be so close to both of my kids. I have also been able to be close to their spouses too. It makes me feel good when my kids have complete trust and faith in me when it comes to watching their kids, and when their spouses even feel the same too. When I came back on MW after my little break, I went through all the posts that Jamie had made on here so that I could print out any where she talked of her kids, those will go in their scrap books about mom, it will be MOMS OWN WORDS about them. About half way through the search, I came across her mothers day message for me that she had posted on MW for me to find. Water works moments for sure. I remember when I was still able to work and was at the station, I had to work thanksgiving. She came in with a rose because she was so thankful for having me around for them. It seems funny, when they first got together, Jamie resented me because Ry bragged about me so much, and how I did things with them, she felt he was putting her down I think, so I made sure any time I saw her do something that was special, I would make a big fuss over it so that she would feel secure as a mom and we became close then!

[Pesha]

My son and I have been thru alot together. I bless that boy.....damn I mean man....everyday.

[Lorrie]

Hehehehehe, do we ever really see that our children are not children any more???????:spaceman:

[Astara Seague]

I dont think we ever do
Like they say once a Mom always a Mom

[Lunacie]

Living with my daughter and watching her be a mom herself has helped me to see that's not "my baby" anymore. And besides, she's over thirty now and I remember what that meant when I was still under thirty myself. :lol:

[Pesha]

My kid will be 32 in a few weeks. I have told him I will never stop seeing him as my baby. Sighs, they grow up so fast and then come the grandkids....that's a good thing!

[Astara Seague]

my baby is turning 23 this year my oldest 26 its very hard to believe

[Pesha]

Muist be a bad day in my area. I seem to be picking up on alot of anger and sadness. My sheilds are still somewhat weak from the insomnia. I hate it when I get theses vibrations. I fel helpless, because I can't help. Blergh.

[Astara Seague]

Muist be a bad day in my area. I seem to be picking up on alot of anger and sadness. My sheilds are still somewhat weak from the insomnia. I hate it when I get theses vibrations. I fel helpless, because I can't help. Blergh.
your not alone sister down here in the valley we have the same thing going on...Im doing what I can..but...Im just me

[gourd_one]

I need to distribute some sage here.

[Lorrie]

My son and I have reached a truce, his gf came over for dinner last night, she is still alive, in one piece and her mind is still as intact as it was when she got here. My son is still worried that I will try to do something evil to her, as long as the kids aren't harmed I have no problem!
He has had quite a breakthrough in his business. Just as soon as he began taking care of business after our talks, things began to fall into this lap within hours. His partner is moving his half of the business to North Carolina, Ry will still run the airsoft side but still be able to use the permissions to sell the military stuff if needed. A store not far from the current store has offered space free of rent because he thinks the airsoft business in his store will help his business also, Ry has two employees staying here and will be needing them, and just days ago he didn't know what was going to become of his store at all or if it would even still be. Last week we were watching his dreams drift away, and within days become almost more than he can handle. Maybe we will see our first good year since......since.......wow, I don't remember a good year. A few good months here and there maybe. I do feel change ahead, and good change for once. All of my readings for the past two years indicated this, I wondered when it would finally come to existance!:boing:

[Kalika]

Something is going on, and I can't figure out what, or who.... and it's driving me crazy. _inabox_

[Lorrie]

Something is going on, and I can't figure out what, or who.... and it's driving me crazy. _inabox_



Watch for spitwads.:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Kalika]

Heh.

[Shadow Angel]

Something is going on, and I can't figure out what, or who.... and it's driving me crazy. _inabox_

_inabox_???? huggles~

[Kalika]

_inabox_???? huggles~

'S ok....

[Pesha]

Something is in the air here. And today is a bad day for me anyway. Urgh somedays I hate having this gift. Well just going to have to up my sheilds and get thru it.

[Astara Seague]

Things are getting aligned around here again, I think Ostara helped out a bit
by the way thanks Gord one for the sage :)

[Shadow Angel]

Agreed,-well i did before you re-edited your comment!!



Im just about done with this atmosphere now, tbh.
This used to be such a happy place.
A real shame.

[Kalika]

*confused*

[Shadow Angel]

*confused*

about what I just said or about something else?
I will explain if you like.

[Kalika]

about what I just said or about something else?
I will explain if you like.

What you just said...

[Shadow Angel]

well what I just said is how I feel.

This place -the whole damned net even , to me, has lost its spark; Im fed up with SSED, I think others are too.
Its so depressing, where once I couldnt wait to be posting, having a laugh, feeling good, now it is a horror somedays. Its a real shame, cos the people here are lovely.

Maybe at the minute my life is just sh!tty, who knows, who cares, as for my Empathy? LMFAO!!-that went straight out the window this morning.:lol:

~Is sitting at puter now instead of feeling good about coming to these forums, is actually dreading it, and only signs in now to make sure people dont start panicking or calls the police to her home cos she hasnt posted in a few hours and they are worried...~

Actually Ive not really been posting here or anywhere much lately.
Someone spoke in a thread of saying ''feck it all and ending it all,''
well I think I just did, for me.

I wish that this place would find its lost spark, the sense of real community, the love even, now it is filling up with negativity,-Gods, i'll bet I can find more happiness right now in a morgue.

Im prolley just ranting, as per, but this is what Im picking up on. Its been a gradual thing, not an overnight thing.

Personally I think its going to take one massive stick of Sage to cleanse this place out, but Im willing if others are, Id just once, just once like to sign in and be greeted with happy possitive posts, just once, be greeted with a hello instead of ''help, im in sh!t {again}'' pm's, just once, be able to feel welcome in a thread, you get what im saying? Its full to the brim with hostility, negativity, and hate.
For that Im truly sorry.

Maybe I should do what I said Im going to do and just wash my hands of anything to do with the net.

I know Id miss you guys though. We are all a community, a family, and we all feel eachothers emotions, we all know what is what with peoples lives etc, we all know, we just need to understand is all. We can turn this heavy atmosphere into the light-hearted forum it once was.

Me? Im going for a cigarette, then Im gonna come back and think of ways to weave some possitivity into this forum, and get those smiles working, hearing the sound of laughter, rather than the tears of sorrow, pain and sadness.

[Kalika]

:hugz:

I notice it too... I think a lot of people have a lot of sh!t going on right now... (myself included)... and because we are family, everyone comes here to talk about it. I think things are starting to look up... and I hope you stick around to see it. But I definitely understand if you don't, or if you need a break, as I'm sure others do as well.

[Lunacie]

I've been on the net long enough now to have seen that there cycles. We're in a slump now, I see that too. But I feel like it's starting to spiral back upwards again. It will be slow because people are going to be getting out more and enjoying the spring weather. When it's so hot you burn your fingers on the car door handles, people will be spending more time indoors under the AC and hanging out online. ;)

[Astara Seague]

Wow! Shadow, you laid it on the line and I agree, that is why I seldom post too, I use to come here and post alot more before this all happened and you are right it has been gradual, it seems even if the post is meant to start off good it seems to change before long Im hoping it will get better soon as well

[Shadow Angel]

well perhaps Im being overly harsh {I hate womens time} I dont know, but I sure as hell know that is what ive personally been feeling for the past month maybe.

[Shadow Angel]

please use this link below.
Thread For The Happy! (http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=154090)

Thankyou.xx

[Pesha]

I truely hope I am not bleeding on to yuo all. I am going thru hell right now getting my body detoxeed from the AntiD meds. I am cranky and sad, and mean and over eating. I am having the worst nightmares ever and frankly feel maybe someone is having a hand in those horrors. I used to lvoe coming in here alot and even I have toned done my time here. Sighs, I am sure it is a cyclic thing. But right now I feel just aweful and I am shielding like crazy all day long. That wears you out.

[Lunacie]

I haven't noticed any bleed-over myself. I sure hope things get turned around for you soon so you can start having fun and enjoying yourself again. :hugz:

[Lorrie]

I am still around, sort of. Rough times here still at home, just haven't felt very social- which for me is actually normal!:lol: . :wave:

[Pesha]

Hugs Lorrie and hugs Lunacie. Hope you both get to feeling better.

[Lunacie]

Thank you Pesha. My head isn't so bad today. I did some reading on fibromyalgia yesterday and it turns out that it can affect me in ways I was equating to the fibro. Some things had puzzled me for years. Weather changes can trigger migraines, can also trigger fibro flare-ups, and fibro can trigger migraines. When I get a headache that lingers for over a month (with a small break now and then) it's most likely a fibro flare-up. Good to know. Now I just wish someone would figure out how to treat this condition.

It's so easy to get depressed when we're having pain all the time, and when we're depressed we're much more likely to be affected by the negative emotions we sense in others, eh.

[mithrilmoon]

It struck me today that, whilst sad, 'negative' posts may seem depressing and even draining, this thread was created in part to 'offer support to empaths'. People experiencing great joy and good fortune don't generally need 'support'. It is the weary, burdened soul that reaches out.

Super-sensitives that we are, we often feel less than bubbling over with happiness. When very low we often feel the need to post, to share our feelings with kindred spirits who will sympathise.

It would be almost tragic if posters were to begin to feel that they were causing offence by sharing their woes. We Empaths can be reclusive - for lots of reasons - and often seek help and friendship online; those around us, even loved ones, often do not understand. At worst they may think us weird or even crazy.

So we seek-out sites such as MW.

Something IS in the air right now. I feel it, too. It is powerful and exhausting and, when added to the current near-epidemic of seasonal throat/chest viral infections, is affecting mood, behaviour, and thought.

When I was down and almost out last Autumn I came here - (forgetting that it was an open Board, which alas occasioned unforeseen repercussions) - and posted from my heart. Thanks to the loving messages of support from people who had hitherto been strangers I began the long, painful process of acceptance, and of letting go. I still have bad days, bad nights, bad hours, bad minutes! But in most respects I am strong, and healing.

My deep and sincere thanks to those who sent words of comfort, and who kindly chose to remember me in their prayers. I will never forget.

[Shadow Angel]

Good point there Mil.xx

Let us hope that it passes soon, so we can start feeling little better, Spring and Summer are definitely coming, and with them come more opportunities to get out and about, and start feeling the happiness the sun warms us with.

[Diotima]

I agree- something is in the air, like a bubble of darkness enveloping things.
Among the people close to me (and including myself), this spring has been marked with illness and bad luck. Not to mention the spiritual stagnation...that's still around. I feel as if a veil of dark had come between me and Light, and that for some reason, darker things have upper hand in things going on around me.

It is positive though, that Spring is coming, and I have been able to draw strength from energies of Earth and Life that is returning to nature. That has made me breathe a bit more easily. I hope it is a sign of that the tide has turned and everything will soon get better for all of us.

[Pesha]

I am feeling that Darkness here in Utah as well. I can reach out and touch my fellows in the UK and feel it there. I wish so much somedays I was still in the homeland. Sighs, America can be sooooooohard to deal with sometimes. But here I am and so will make the best of it.

Hopefully the Light is coming soon. I am hoping before the Summer Solstice.

HUGS and love and light to all.

[Pesha]

Well I hope everyone is doing ok. I know there are alot of friends here with illness in the family and life is intruding on some. Sighs, wish there was a way to wave my wand and make it wonderful for everyone. So sending out the light and healing to all of them.

I had to go back on my antiD meds. Sadly I was breaking down without them. So I will take it a day at a time and manage my sleep with Valerian Root.

Be well and have joy!

[Astara Seague]

:hugz: Pesha,
it was so bad last night I woke up in the night with a headache I couldnt believe, that hasnt happened for a very long time

[Lunacie]

:hugz: (((Pesha))) and (((Astara))) :hugz:

[LostSheep]

hello everyone.

i haven't looked in here for a little while. :hugz: to anyone who needs them. And anyone who doesn't actually need one too for that matter, since you can never have too many hugs can you.

So :hugz: then.

[Pesha]

LS it is always so good to see you. Big HUGS!

[ShadowStalker]

:wave:

Hello everyone. Long thread! Just wanted to poke my head in and say hi. Nice to have a place to come to when life gets to be a little too much.

[Eternal Night]

My head hurts........~sigh~
My chest feels tight........
This feeling is ~shakes head~ I dunno.....heavy...
I want me back!!

[Lunacie]

My head hurts........~sigh~
My chest feels tight........
This feeling is ~shakes head~ I dunno.....heavy...
I want me back!!

Are you sick, or is there something going on?
Wanna talk about it? :hugz:

[Eternal Night]

Are you sick, or is there something going on?
Wanna talk about it? :hugz:


Can I pm you?

[Lunacie]

Sure. I'm generally around to bounce ideas off. :hugz:

[Eternal Night]

_pounce_ thankyou Lunacie......

[Lunacie]

Glad I could help. :)

[Pesha]

Mood is brighter. It is slowly coming together. Anyway my friends, hope al is well. It is getting to that time of year again when things slow down in here and it gets quiet. But I am glad to see the warmth come and some of the gloom go.

Anyway, early this morning I woke up feeling very uneasy and could not put my finger on it. Later when the sun was up and I was awake, I looked out my window and saw the police and a man with his car broken into. Glass everywhere. Sooooo, I had the impression I knew where my uneasiness was steming from. Poor guy, he parks there every Friday and someone hit him up. So sad. I could feel his frustration.

HUGS.

[Lunacie]

My daughter convinced me to get out and go to the thrift store this morning and -I-froze-my-tuccus-off! But we found the greatest display case with glass sides and glass doors and glass shelves. I don't know for sure what age it is - it was too damn cold to take any time looking at the bottom for a date while we were loading it - but I'm pretty sure it's the right era to fit into her shop when she is able to get it open. Her logo is in sepia tones showing mostly naked ladies from around the 1920's and I think this case was made about that time. So that was neat.

Had lunch downtown and every time someone would come in the door, which faces the north, I about froze all over again. We kept our coats on while we were eating. Damn, it's April, I want to see some warmer temps again.

[Pesha]

Oh dear. It is going to be 70F today. Since when did it get so cold in Wichita in April. My goodness.

[Lunacie]

Oh dear. It is going to be 70F today. Since when did it get so cold in Wichita in April. My goodness.

Wednesday night I slept with only a sheet on me and the fan running. By Thursday afternoon it was down to freezing and we had a mini blizzard going on. We got more than an inch of very wet snow here at our house. And then the temperature dropped even further. With the wind chill it's just damn cold out there. My knees hurt so bad it about killed me to get into and out of my daughters little foreign car today.

We didn't set any weather records here for cold temps or snowfall for this time of year, but we were very, very close. And yeah I know, we'll be beotching about the heat in about a month. That's just Kansas for ya. ;)

[ladyraven]

It's the same where I live in Missouri.

[LostSheep]

Hello again