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Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 12:16 PM
I sneezed all morning on Saturday and my nose didn't stop running until I lay down again about lunchtime for a little while. Got up and was just fine then. It's so weird the way our bodies react to allergens.

I caught a little bit of the tv news last night and I guess there were several scares at other colleges yesterday, that thankfully weren't serious after all.

Astara Seague
April 18th, 2007, 12:22 PM
yeah its to bad that there are copy cats!! I wonder how they think that is cool???

Lorrie
April 18th, 2007, 04:04 PM
We are rearranging the house yet again, this time for my sons new GF. She brought over her tall bookshelves so I could get most of my books put up on it. My little room out here is about to get new occupants, my snake and iguanas will be getting 2 guinea pigs, a frog and a turtle. THAT is the easy part. The fun one will be when she brings her three cats over to join my three cats!_inabox_ She is gradually bringing stuff over, and we just have to deal with a few things at a time, so it is so far a nice neat move. My son is now in his room clearing it out. I have left him alone for this, this is the first he has finally gone through Jamies stuff. He hasn't touched the room at all since she died, everything is just where it was except for a few things he had to look for. Neither of them were very neat, so there is no floor, just stuff piled all the way around the bed knee-high. I feel like my clearing out room for her things is also helping me put things to rest for me finally. I will never get the image out of my head, it haunts me most of the time, maybe this will help me let it all go now.
I realize now that Jamie had died not long after Ry left for work, because I remember knocking on her door to let her know my daughter was over with the baby. If she had heard me, she would have been out there with us right away. I realize that she didn't try to call out for help, she silently passed away, the kids and TV couldn't have drowned out any cries for help, she didn't even know she was gone from what I am getting from it now, so I am finally able to put that feeling to rest. That has been my strongest pain, feeling that she may have called out and I didn't hear her, that maybe I could have prevented it if I had heard her call for help. I am finally accepting that this was not the case. I have been getting alot of information since I tried to enlist her help in putting a stop to my sons new GF, I found out that Jamie wanted it this way!_wedgie_ So, that was when I decided to quit being a b**** and make friends with her. I have found out that she is very nice, is trying to push my son towards responsibility- something I have tried to do and cannot get through! The kids, my animals, my family, everyone is quite happy with her.

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 05:09 PM
Ah (((Lorrie))) it sounds like things are finally looking brighter. :)

Eternal Night
April 18th, 2007, 05:13 PM
:hugz::hugz: hey everybody:wave:

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 05:22 PM
:hugz::hugz: hey everybody:wave:


:wave: Hey E.N. :hugz:

Eternal Night
April 18th, 2007, 05:27 PM
Thing s are going really well since I did that aura cleansing you suggested.

I'm just trying to cope with my feelings at the moment, the feeling is quite new to me. Being able to feel people's pain or happiness was never something I had but I am finding that lately a lot of senses have been opened to me and am wondering why it's happened all of a sudden.
I always presumed that you were born an empath........

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Maybe we could think of it as just another muscle. We're born with muscles but we have to train them to help us walk around and pick up things and do things. We have to learn to use our muscles and how to control them. Some people never learn how to use their empathy (really how to listen to it). Some learn how to control their empathy. And some stumble all over it. I stumbled over mine for a very long time.

Anyway, sometimes when you take up a new line of work like carpentry. or a new hobby like golf or bowling or gardening, or join a fitness club, you find out you have muscles you never knew you had. I don't know if I'm making sense, things are a little noisy here at the minute and I'm distracted.

Eternal Night
April 18th, 2007, 05:57 PM
No that makes perfect sense thanks Lunacie you've really helped me alot and I really appreciate it.......I hope someday I can return the kindness you have shown me.....*hugs*

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Or just pass it forward. :)

Lorrie
April 18th, 2007, 06:33 PM
In my opinion, when we are around groups like this, abilities begin to emerge.

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 07:32 PM
This is my first time being around a group like this. Merge... in what way?

Lorrie
April 18th, 2007, 08:08 PM
E merge. Abilities begin to manifest. Sorry, had to end my post quick, baby crying! :hahugh: . Let me try this again. It seems like when you are exposed to people with abilities, your own begin to awaken. Suddenly you realize, hey, when did I begin being able to do that??????
I hope this one made a bit more sense!!!!:lol:

Lunacie
April 18th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Oh for crying out loud, how could I miss that e? My daughter was just asking me yesterday how long it's been since I've had my eyes checked. Not that I can afford to buy new eyeglasses, but she may have a point. :lol:

Actually I think you may have something there. I think I read something about that the other day. Have to see if I can find it again.

Lorrie
April 18th, 2007, 08:40 PM
:lol: I know the feeling! My hearing isn't any better than my eyesight either. Nice thing about online, I don't have to keep saying "huh???" My mom has become real bad about that, now my little 2 1/2 year old is walking around saying " WHAT???" She thinks it is funny!

Pesha
April 19th, 2007, 03:30 AM
:hugz: X 100,000,000 to all of you lovely people. Lorrie alot of light flowing to you. EN good to see you. Lunacie, hugs.

I have been reading all your posts and can say that Lorrie seems right in that we seem to help each other bring out the best of us. This Bunker is a good place to be able to feel safe. It is the one main reason I stay around here. Anyway, things seem to be calming down over the Virgina mess and I am feeling less rattled.

The weather here is just silly. Sunday and Monday and Tuesday it was warm and in the 70's and today it snowed. What in the world??

Well I am off to try and sleep a bit more.

HUGS all.

Lunacie
April 19th, 2007, 09:28 AM
The weather was like that here last week. Warm enough to have the windows open one day but then needed to turn the furnace back on the next day. Went from sunshine to thunder and lightning to snow within the space of about 4 hours. That set the new record for the latest snowfall around here. We got less than an inch this time but the western part of the state got over a foot. I don't like the cold but it was a pretty snow, and it beats the heck out of tornados. While it was snowing here, there were tornados tearing up Texas.

Lorrie
April 19th, 2007, 11:42 AM
Yep, we got hit with a real nasty snowstorm that began that way also, today I have windows open, in a few days were are due to hit around 75 degrees. We have often had to run the furnace until mid-June here though. The tree seedlings I have ordered from ebay have begun to pour in a few a day, I have had to put several in pots inside until the weather cooperates with planting!

ShadowStalker
April 19th, 2007, 12:20 PM
Thing s are going really well since I did that aura cleansing you suggested.

I'm just trying to cope with my feelings at the moment, the feeling is quite new to me. Being able to feel people's pain or happiness was never something I had but I am finding that lately a lot of senses have been opened to me and am wondering why it's happened all of a sudden.
I always presumed that you were born an empath........

:hugz:

:wave:

Astara Seague
April 19th, 2007, 12:28 PM
we are doing a bit of rearranging around here to, looks like my daughter will be moving home again for awhile, her car broke and she had to spend all the money she had saved to move for a new one I really dont mind it will be nice to have her around again, plus she is kind of going through a rough patch herself, and I have been a little worried about her, it will be nice having her closer

Pesha
April 19th, 2007, 01:12 PM
Living with adult children is not too bad. I just have to remind myself that my son is an adult and married and his wife gets first crack at him. LOL.

Today s a nice quiet day empathically. Deep sigh.

Lorrie
April 19th, 2007, 04:29 PM
I really thought I would have a rough time when my son and his family were going to move in here with me, I am so antisocial and such a hermit. I have actually enjoyed them living here. I miss my hermit times, but I know that I will have that back some day, for now they need me, and I really need to be needed right now. Now that Leah will be moving in with us, I am actually looking forward to it, it is going to take alot of stress off of me. I believe today is the day her pets come to join us, next week the furniture. She feels like a burden, and can't understand how flexible of a family we are, it is no problem. it has forced my son to go through the bedroom for the first time since we lost Jamie. Somehow it is forcing me to accept what has happened to Jamie and realize there was NOTHING I could have done to prevent her death. I guess I will always have some little sliver of doubt nagging at me, what if she called out for help and I couldn't hear her over the kids and TV?????? But, now I look at the times of things that happened that day, and I know she had died soon after Ry left for work, she just silently drifted away. There was nothing for me to hear. Now we have a new start, Ry is very happy with her, and I like the maturity she has, it has been good for Ry. Now I will have someone else around the house, I can get things done, and she LIKES to clean, and she COOKS too!!! I don't know who is getting the better deal here, but I kinda feel like it is me for the first time!!:hahugh: Everything happens for a reason. It is another time of changes.

LostSheep
April 19th, 2007, 04:53 PM
:hugz: Lorrie.

And everyone.

Pesha
April 19th, 2007, 06:21 PM
I'm so glad things are becoming more peacful for you Lorrie. :hugz:

Johnathan Brisby
April 19th, 2007, 07:40 PM
Doesn't that just prove my point?


are you trying to say youre a vampire?:hahugh:

have you seen this:

http://mysilentecho.com/ (http://mysilentecho.com/)

Eternal Night
April 20th, 2007, 02:45 AM
:hugz:

:wave:

:wave: _pounce_

Pesha
April 21st, 2007, 02:35 AM
It's the weekend! And I am hoping to relax after this sad week. Let down my sheilds a bit and breath.

Astara Seague
April 21st, 2007, 11:35 AM
Good idea Pesha get some rest :hugz:

Lorrie
April 21st, 2007, 03:36 PM
My son was actually home today, I got to borrow his car and go shopping for garden stuff! :hahugh: That was fun. Now I get to go dig in the dirt and plant. I am so bad about having my hands in sand that I keep a bucket of sand in the house in the winter to just put my hands in or I get really grouchy!:fpraise: I have been gardening since I was about 7 years old, my parents let me have my own little garden to grow whatever I wanted, they did it to get me to leave them alone, they got quite a shock when my garden did good!!! I haven't been able to do much on this house yet, this will be my first year and it will take a few years for it to all begin to grow in and look as I picture it. The house I lived in before this one, people would stop just to come up and see it, especially neighbors, it was nothing but briars and ferns when we moved in, I hand dug it all into a beautiful landscape, natural at that. It makes me sick to drive past there today. When I got my injury, I ended up losing my home to foreclosure, the people that now have it have just let it go and turned it into a junk yard. I have already had several neighbors compliment this one, and I haven't even done much to it yet! This one was a junkyard when we moved here!!!!

Pesha
April 21st, 2007, 07:57 PM
The ground and plants bless you Lorrie, I am sure. A tender mother of many things. Hugs and light.

Lorrie
April 21st, 2007, 08:07 PM
The ground and plants bless you Lorrie, I am sure. A tender mother of many things. Hugs and light.



Aw, thanks! The guardian spirits of the property seem to approve, they were very unhappy to see new people moving in, once I began planting and grooming, I could feel the almost immediate change! All the junk moved out and the flowers and trees moved in! It feels so good here, I don't ever want to leave this home.:fpraise:
So, how is your weekend going, are you getting some relaxation in?

Kalika
April 22nd, 2007, 06:56 PM
are you trying to say youre a vampire?:hahugh:

have you seen this:

http://mysilentecho.com/ (http://mysilentecho.com/)

*chuckle*

Who, me? What would make you think that? :lol:

Interesting site. :)

Pesha
April 22nd, 2007, 11:59 PM
Lorrie, yes I did manage to relax a bit and actually slept last night. So I am hoping the week coming goes good.


BTW Kalika, you and JB are having a most interesting conversation. I've been following the links.

Kalika
April 23rd, 2007, 08:08 AM
Lorrie, yes I did manage to relax a bit and actually slept last night. So I am hoping the week coming goes good.


BTW Kalika, you and JB are having a most interesting conversation. I've been following the links.

:)

:hugz:

Lunacie
April 23rd, 2007, 08:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnathan Brisby http://mysticwicks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=3079380#post3079380)
are you trying to say youre a vampire?:hahugh:

have you seen this:

http://mysilentecho.com/ (http://mysilentecho.com/)


*chuckle*

Who, me? What would make you think that? :lol:

Interesting site. :)

How about moving these posts to a new thread about empathic vampires?

ShadowStalker
April 23rd, 2007, 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnathan Brisby http://mysticwicks.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=3079380#post3079380)
are you trying to say youre a vampire?:hahugh:

have you seen this:

http://mysilentecho.com/ (http://mysilentecho.com/)




How about moving these posts to a new thread about empathic vampires?

That site isn't necessarily for vampires. It's for empaths. As is the bunker, no?

Kalika
April 23rd, 2007, 10:12 AM
That site isn't necessarily for vampires. It's for empaths. As is the bunker, no?

:lol: Absolutely, all types.

Lunacie
April 23rd, 2007, 10:20 AM
I didn't say anything about moving the side-discussion to a different forum, I suggested starting a new thread about that topic... Empathy Vampires.

Some vampires "feed" on physical energy, some may even feed off of mental energies, but I suspect most feed on emotional energies. Most are not doing so consciously, but the ones who are aware of what they're doing could be called "Empathy Vampires", they deliberately provoke certain emotions in order to feast on them.

So... do we want a thread in the Bunker forum to talk about this subject?

ShadowStalker
April 23rd, 2007, 10:25 AM
I didn't say anything about moving the side-discussion to a different forum, I suggested starting a new thread about that topic... Empathy Vampires.

Some vampires "feed" on physical energy, some may even feed off of mental energies, but I suspect most feed on emotional energies. Most are not doing so consciously, but the ones who are aware of what they're doing could be called "Empathy Vampires", they deliberately provoke certain emotions in order to feast on them.

So... do we want a thread in the Bunker forum to talk about this subject?

Sorry, the post came across as kind of...

Sure. Might make for interesting discussion, at the least. You think? Empathic Vampires?

Lunacie
April 23rd, 2007, 11:52 AM
Sorry, the post came across as kind of...

Sure. Might make for interesting discussion, at the least. You think? Empathic Vampires?

This isn't the first time vampires have come up in discussion here in the Bunker. It's not real high on my list of interests, but it seems there might be enough interest from others to be worthy of it's own thread.

... came across as kind of ... what?

ShadowStalker
April 23rd, 2007, 11:59 AM
This isn't the first time vampires have come up in discussion here in the Bunker. It's not real high on my list of interests, but it seems there might be enough interest from others to be worthy of it's own thread.

... came across as kind of ... what?

Like you didn't want them in here. :p

I'm interested in everything, and I've noticed they've come up a few other places, so it can't hurt. If there isn't any interest, the thread will die. :) And now you have somewhere to point people when they come in here!

Lunacie
April 23rd, 2007, 12:25 PM
Like you didn't want them in here. :p

I'm interested in everything, and I've noticed they've come up a few other places, so it can't hurt. If there isn't any interest, the thread will die. :) And now you have somewhere to point people when they come in here!

Hmmm, I didn't mean for it to come across that way. I hope everyone feels welcome here - well, everyone but trolls or spammers. :nyah:

ShadowStalker
April 23rd, 2007, 12:46 PM
Hmmm, I didn't mean for it to come across that way. I hope everyone feels welcome here - well, everyone but trolls or spammers. :nyah:

:lol:

:hugz:

I hope so too.

Pesha
April 24th, 2007, 03:39 AM
Sounds like a good move Luna, go for it .

Lunacie
April 24th, 2007, 08:50 AM
Sounds like a good move Luna, go for it .

SS beat me to it. :lol:

The weather was very volitile here yesterday and will be again today. All the tornados stayed west of us last night - which means some were in the county where the rest of my family lives. Wild weather has been rough on me for over 30 years, I can "feel" it when tornados are brewing. So I kept busy yesterday with things like housekeeping and baking and cooking - and of course refereeing the fights between the kids. This morning is so bad that I'm sitting her between writing sentences clenching my fists and rocking back and forth, just breathing and trying to stay grounded and centered.

But I am interested in checking the links that SS found on Vampiric Empaths or Empathic Vampires or which ever and hope to take a look between doing laundry today - unless I have to dash off to the storm shelter in the center of the park. It was 6 years ago yesterday that a huge tornado destroyed about a third of the town where my daughter and granddaughter were living - and those kinds of traumas are imprinted in cellular memory, so a tough day here for all of us.

Hope the rest of you are doing better and have sunny skies and cheerful people in your lives today.

Astara Seague
April 24th, 2007, 11:04 AM
its finally getting warmer finally, this past week has been a bit windy and chilly, now I can finally get back out in the yard

Pesha
April 26th, 2007, 02:37 PM
Same here where I am in Utah. Too warm too fast for my tastes.

And my friends I will only be around about once a week from now on. I love you all madly. HUGS.

Eternal Night
April 26th, 2007, 02:55 PM
hello!!!

positive thoughts and hugs for everyone!!_pounce__pounce_

Laura Stamps
April 26th, 2007, 04:14 PM
Thanks, Lunacie for the warm welcome and the invite to this section (I joined last month and Lunacie just rescued me from an old thread about Empaths in another part of the forum).

I am happy to be among my own kind here (Empaths) and intend to hang out for a while. This section looks fantastic!!

Merry Meet, Everyone! :wave:

Astara Seague
April 27th, 2007, 10:43 AM
:wave: and welcome Laura we are glad your here :hugz:

Astara Seague
April 27th, 2007, 10:46 AM
why only once a week Pesha, I hope its a good reason :) we will miss you :hugz:

Laura Stamps
April 27th, 2007, 03:55 PM
Thanks for the welcome! I thought I would read through all the posts in this thread to get an idea of what has been said, and I still plan to do that. But there was a post about 9/11 and how that Empath could feel all the anger and rage of everyone at that time, and I wanted to respond to that. You know what? The exact opposite happened to me. I am also psychic and talk with spirits and faeries all the time, and what happened to me that day had to be related to that, I think. So many times my Empath abilities mix with my psychic abilities and come at me like a roaring train. What I felt on 9/11 was the incredible joy and happiness of the spirits of the people who died in the Towers that day. It was like a giddy, happiness drug for me, the total and complete joy they felt as they were relased from their bodies. I tried to tell a few people and got slammed really quick (even by my husband) because so many were sad and angry and grieving, and they thought I was being disrespectful. And of course I know how horrible it was for those who were left with terrible holes in their families. That's a given. So I kept what I saw and felt to myself for a few years. But for anyone who lost someone in the Towers that day I want them to know the happiness their loved ones felt passing over. It truly overwhelmed me, and I can still see them floating out of their bodies, hundreds of them, such joy and light on their faces. It is an image I think will stay with me for the rest of my life, because it was so luminous, for lack of a better way to describe it.

Also, this is part of what I posted in the old thread that Lunacie rescued me from. I thought those here might relate to it as well, since there have been some posts about relating to animals and their feelings. This part of what I posted has to do with extending your Empath skills to our pets and feeling what they feel to the point we can actually hear what they are saying to us.

***************

I was born an Empath, and I have been in feral cat rescue for 30+ years. Because I also see and talk with spirits, the spirits of all my cats come back to me a few hours or days after passing. They yowl in the house or come into my dreams. All tell me how happy they are in the next realm.

Recently, I have gotten so I can hear what my cats are saying. I have one housecat in particular that is such a misfit. She was not an easily adoptable cat, tons of behavior problems, no one would take her but me. And she has come a long way, but is still more trouble than 10 regular cats. She is 9 years old this month, and I got her when she was 5 weeks old. Lately, she had been looking at me so intensely, as if she were trying to tell me something, I can just feel waves of emotion pouring out of her eyes, she is trying so hard to communicate with me. On the day one of my feral cats died of cancer I suddenly began to hear what she was saying to me. She said she loved me a lot and was trying very hard to be a good kitty.

Still I have been trying to figure out what that intense sorrowful look is all about. Then the other day I got it. She told me she had been a dog in her last life, and she doesn't know how to be a cat. She doesn't want to be a cat...she wants to be a dog. So from now on when she gets in trouble I tell her, like it or not, she is a cat in this lifetime, and she has to learn to accept that. It certainly explains what is going on with her. This is a cat that can't jump, crashes into everything, she doesn't even walk like a cat, doesn't play with other cats like a cat, inhales her food like a dog, and has always acted more like a dog than a cat. Well, now I know...she is a dog! Bless her heart! :idea:

**************************

Now I will go back to reading the rest of your wonderful posts in this thread. I have to say many of them are bringing tears to my eyes. This is a "box of tissue thread" for me for sure!

Lunacie
April 27th, 2007, 05:05 PM
What an interesting post, Laura. Thanks for sharing your story - or at least part of it. I didn't feel so much from the Twin Towers, but I sure felt it when David Koresh and the cult at Waco died, and when the Federal Building in OK City was bombed. I think those two events taught me to shield better.

It does seem like Empaths pick up the feelings of loss and sadness from those who are left here, more than we pick up the feelings of release from those who have crossed over. But I know that feeling... my mother returned to give me one last hug the night after she died and she felt like that what you picked up, happy and joyful.

It sounds like you may be as much of a Medium as an Empath. I'm aware of the dead around me sometimes, but I've never been able to communicate with them really. Well, except for my ex-hubby but I told him to bugger off and go haunt someone else. ;)

Laura Stamps
April 28th, 2007, 03:16 PM
It sounds like you may be as much of a Medium as an Empath. I'm aware of the dead around me sometimes, but I've never been able to communicate with them really. Well, except for my ex-hubby but I told him to bugger off and go haunt someone else. ;)


How funny! Thanks for the laugh. :lol:

People often ask me how to talk with or see spirits of the dead or other spirits or how to hear what their pets are trying to tell them. I know for sure, in my case, it is a mix of my Empath and psychic skills.

Like with everything in Witchcraft it is your intent that is the first step...you must believe that you can hear them or see them. Then I use my third eye for both hearing and seeing and stay in that mode most of the time and especially when I am trying to communicate with spirits. Next you must not expect all of them to speak to you in English. It has been my experience that the spirits of the dead will speak to you in English. Rune Spirits speak to me in English but also in objects, colors, and light. Faeries speak totally in objects, emotions, colors, and light. And my cats speak to me first in objects and emotions and then in English. So I think you have to be open to all of this.

How funny, as I am writing this one spirit has appeared in my office. I can tell because I smell cigarette smoke. And both my husband and I don't smoke.

And this is my second attempt to write this post. The first time my screen went white, and I had to restart my computer. What a hoot! These guys crack me up! :hehehehe:

Oh, they are telling me it is time to quit and take a nap with my 5 housecats. So I will. (No, I'm not kidding, that's exactly what the spirit said, and the Spirits usually know best.)

Happy Saturday, Everyone!

Lunacie
April 28th, 2007, 06:12 PM
My ex smoked - in fact that's what killed him. You don't suppose...

Pesha
April 28th, 2007, 08:24 PM
My late hubby smoked almost three packs a day and it most certainly contributed to his death. That and End Stage Kidney Disease. I don't miss smoking one bit.

Laura Stamps
April 29th, 2007, 03:01 PM
My ex smoked - in fact that's what killed him. You don't suppose...


Ha! Thanks for my first big laugh of the day. :hehehehe:

Seriously, that was the first thing I did...see if the spirit was anyone I knew who smoked and had died from it. But it wasn't. However he is the one that made my screen go white when he appeared the first time.

So I did my Empath thing to see who this new spirit was. He gave me an emotion and a feeling of maleness, so I knew it was a man. I dove into the emotion he was emitting (kindness), and I began to see him through my third eye. He is a professor-type fellow, tweed jacket, strawberry blonde hair cut short with tufts of gray in it, and a smoker. I got the feeling that he was here to help me, and he has been doing helpful things for me ever since.

I also got the sense that he might be the spirit in my cat that passed away a few weeks ago from cancer. So before I went to bed I got out my tarot cards and found out he is not a faerie (what I suspected at first because he hasn't been using English with me, just images and smells and emotions). He is a human spirit, but not someone I knew from this lifetime; he is someone I knew in a past life, but have no memory of at this time.

However, in a way I did know him in this lifetime, because he was the spirit in my cat Dandelion. Now all my cats come back to me after they pass away. But Dandelion passed away in such a strange way, in that he was surrounded by faeries the 9 days I cared for him constantly at the end, and he left no body when he passed over...he took it with him. Also he didn't come back a few hours or days later to see me like all the other cats did. But now, almost 4 weeks later he is back, and the cards say he will stay with me for a long time, helping me out. I only smell cigarette smoke for a minute when he wants me to know he is near, but then it is gone.

I have to say it is good to have him here, and I am touched he is going to stay with me for a long time, and that he wants to help me. I adored that cat, and always thought he would be with me. I was shocked when he suddenly passed away from cancer before he turned two years old. So, yes, I cried a lot last night. The sweetness of it all touched me deeply.

midnight-moonphoenix
April 29th, 2007, 05:25 PM
hey first time i have had acsee to a comp for a while. well my wedding is in june on the 30. and everything is already dealt with. i have a good cna job. i dont know if i a pregnanat wait to see. my empathy is working full force and i like it. i have stopped self harm and am trying gto stay that way succsefully, fffor now.
i will return when more time is at my disposale.

Lunacie
April 29th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Ha! Thanks for my first big laugh of the day. :hehehehe:

Seriously, that was the first thing I did...see if the spirit was anyone I knew who smoked and had died from it. But it wasn't. However he is the one that made my screen go white when he appeared the first time.

So I did my Empath thing to see who this new spirit was. He gave me an emotion and a feeling of maleness, so I knew it was a man. I dove into the emotion he was emitting (kindness), and I began to see him through my third eye. He is a professor-type fellow, tweed jacket, strawberry blonde hair cut short with tufts of gray in it, and a smoker. I got the feeling that he was here to help me, and he has been doing helpful things for me ever since.

I also got the sense that he might be the spirit in my cat that passed away a few weeks ago from cancer. So before I went to bed I got out my tarot cards and found out he is not a faerie (what I suspected at first because he hasn't been using English with me, just images and smells and emotions). He is a human spirit, but not someone I knew from this lifetime; he is someone I knew in a past life, but have no memory of at this time.

However, in a way I did know him in this lifetime, because he was the spirit in my cat Dandelion. Now all my cats come back to me after they pass away. But Dandelion passed away in such a strange way, in that he was surrounded by faeries the 9 days I cared for him constantly at the end, and he left no body when he passed over...he took it with him. Also he didn't come back a few hours or days later to see me like all the other cats did. But now, almost 4 weeks later he is back, and the cards say he will stay with me for a long time, helping me out. I only smell cigarette smoke for a minute when he wants me to know he is near, but then it is gone.

I have to say it is good to have him here, and I am touched he is going to stay with me for a long time, and that he wants to help me. I adored that cat, and always thought he would be with me. I was shocked when he suddenly passed away from cancer before he turned two years old. So, yes, I cried a lot last night. The sweetness of it all touched me deeply.

This is interesting, and cool that this spirit came back to you as a cat and now as pure spirit. However, I don't understand what you mean about Dandelion not leaving a body behind. Will you explain this please?

Lunacie
April 29th, 2007, 05:55 PM
hey first time i have had acsee to a comp for a while. well my wedding is in june on the 30. and everything is already dealt with. i have a good cna job. i dont know if i a pregnanat wait to see. my empathy is working full force and i like it. i have stopped self harm and am trying gto stay that way succsefully, fffor now.
i will return when more time is at my disposale.

Congrats on so many things going well for you. I don't know whether it was my empathy or what, but I knew immediately when I got pregnant with my daughter - and we've always had a very strong link between us.

Laura Stamps
April 30th, 2007, 09:21 AM
This is interesting, and cool that this spirit came back to you as a cat and now as pure spirit. However, I don't understand what you mean about Dandelion not leaving a body behind. Will you explain this please?


It is neat, and I didn't realize the spirits of people could do that for a lifetime or for a short visit, until my best friend passed over in 2002 and came back to see me briefly, first as a spirit and then as a crow.

Dandelion was one of my very tame feral cats that lives in a colony in the forest behind my house, but they spend most of their time on my back porch, where I feed them and have beds for them to sleep in at night. I encourage this, because it helps me socialize them, so they can be more easily adopted by a good family (not everyone is used to coping with the wildness of a feral).

When I realized the cancer was affecting his lungs I started feeding him medicine in his food, with what I call my "kitty IV" (my finger) because he was too ill to eat. I would wipe it on his lips or paw, and he would get medicine, food, and liquids that way...3 times a day. He started improving after a few days, but then ran into a thicket of sticker bushes on a faerie mound in the forest, and I couldn't get to him to feed him (even though I tried very hard and had the scratches to prove it!). Then he came out and looked better, so I was encouraged, and fed him again. Then he ran into a water easement tunnel that is about 50 yards long and runs from the street, under my property, and into a creek in the forest behind my house. I couldn't get in there to feed him, and as far as I know I never saw him come out. When it rained a few days later his body never washed out. And that was the last I saw of him. Usually I find the ones that die of disease or whatever and bury them in the kitty cemetary in my backyard (unfortunately all cat rescue people have one...kind of goes with the job). I always felt, because he was surrounded by faeries the entire 9 days I cared for him during this illness, that there was a door in that underground tunnel that lead to faerieland, and the faeries just ecscorted him in there, body and all. Just very strange, because I know every inch of that forest and never found his body, and a Maine Coon is a large cat. When he was healthy he weighed 40 pounds, but had lost about 15 pounds the last two weeks, still a very large cat. So that's why I said that about his body. Now that you mention this I will ask his spirit what happened and let you know what he says. Thanks for the idea!

Lots of magick happened during those 9 days. After he ran into the easement tunnel I would go down there 3 times a day and stick my arm in there as far as I could to put a fresh bowl of medicine gruel in there for him to eat (hopefully) and pull out the old bowl. That tunnel is about 10 inches high, dark as night, and full of dirt and creepy crawlies. But my main concern was keeping Dandelion alive, so I didn't think about those things. On the third day after he disappeared into the tunnel I woke when my alarm went off that morning and heard very loudly "Don't stick your arm in the tunnel today!" The spirits are always telling me things, when I am awake or asleep, and their advice is good, so I follow it. However, I went down to the tunnel that evening just to have a look around. When I got to the place where I reach in and pull the old food bowl out and stick the new food bowl in I saw two things: a fresh snake skin hanging out of the tunnel, and the old food bowl had washed out and was full of big black spiders. Good advice as usual...glad I followed it! :)

Laura Stamps
May 4th, 2007, 01:57 PM
This is interesting, and cool that this spirit came back to you as a cat and now as pure spirit. However, I don't understand what you mean about Dandelion not leaving a body behind. Will you explain this please?


When I asked the spirit about what happened to Dandelion's body he told me the faeries carried it off into faeryland. He asked them to do it, because he knew if I found it that it would just be too sad for me...Dandelion was a very large cat, larger than most small dogs, and to have to carry his decomposing body to my kitty cemetary and bury it would have been horribly sad. He's right. He said he requested this because every time he has known me as a human in a past life I have helped him. And that is why he said he is here now to "help" me. I have no idea for how long, but it is going to be a long time.

And this has been a good week to be helped. There was a yahoo groups glitch with my account that was fixed in an hour very easily yesterday, when I hear others have been tangling with it for days. And the day before a glitch with my hotmail email address was fixed quickly and smoothly in an hour as well. Both kind of miraculous. So he is already hard at work helping me. :hahugh:

By the way his name is Alfred Strathmore, and he is from England. I very well could have known him, because I have many past life memories in England. He seems to be a very kind-hearted spirit, much like Dandelion, actually. But less playful, so far.

Lunacie
May 4th, 2007, 02:51 PM
Wow, what a sweet thing to think of. I know Maine Coon cats get pretty big, we used to have a female that was half-Maine Coon cat, maybe half as big as your Dandelion. She liked to lay in the baby-bouncer seat and we have photos of her in there as well as photos of the baby when she came home from the hospital weighing just over 5 pounds (her mom had preeclampsia). The difference in size is amazing and made us all smile. We left her with my ex-son-in-law after the divorce (when my daughter and grandchildren and I all bought a house together) and he kicked the cat outdoors and let it become feral. GAH.

I have a small Asian man who has been trying to guide me for several years. But either he's not very outspoken, or I'm not very good at 'hearing' him. :(

Laura Stamps
May 4th, 2007, 04:30 PM
Wow, what a sweet thing to think of. I know Maine Coon cats get pretty big, we used to have a female that was half-Maine Coon cat, maybe half as big as your Dandelion. She liked to lay in the baby-bouncer seat and we have photos of her in there as well as photos of the baby when she came home from the hospital weighing just over 5 pounds (her mom had preeclampsia).

I have a small Asian man who has been trying to guide me for several years. But either he's not very outspoken, or I'm not very good at 'hearing' him. :(

You always make me laugh (The Asian man), what a hoot!! Seriously, he could be Zen and in that case very minimal in his words. :lol:

Maine Coons are amazing as kittens. I have pictures of Dandelion from his entire (almost) two years, because I know the ferals will one day go to whomever adopts them, and many I have raised from kittens when their moms bring them to me. Dandelion was one, and I wanted a record of him and his sisters and cousins. Anyway, I had never had a Maine Coon before and my husband and I kept saying: what is wrong with this kitten?...he is HUGE, and his paws are HUGE, and he looked just like a fuzzy house slipper. Did yours look like that? Very cute and fuzzy all over. We had no idea because his 3 sisters were calicos and his mom is a tuxedo. Who knew she would have a Maine Coon??

I don't know if I mentioned this or not, but he was my only feral to be spayed AND neutered. He was so pretty we (also my friend with the cat rescue agency...we used her vet) just assumed he was a female and when we looked there was so much hair in that area we didn't see anything. But when the vet cut into him they didn't find any female parts so they started digging under his tail, and yup, he was a male. Poor guy!

Speaking of Alfred. I have done a wild and crazy thing. I decided to google that name, and found an Alfred Strathmore who lived in England during my last life time. His relatives are looking for info on the family, so I emailed them to ask about what Alfred looked like, did he smoke, etc. And I am in contact with them as I write this. Wild, yes? I'll let you know what I find out.

Lunacie
May 4th, 2007, 04:39 PM
Wow, that's so cool. Let me know whether the info from his descendents matches the info you've been getting?

Ah, Zen. That's a possibility. Just my luck, to get a guide who doesn't talk to me. Also have an owl guide who managed to get a serious warning to me about 6 years ago without 'talking' to me at all.

FritziKitty had the coloring and hair of a Maine Coon, her mom was a calico (tri color) and her litter mates were mostly tiger/housecat and one calico (two color). We didn't know what she was until I did a web search and found pictures of a Maine Coon and it was clear as day. Maybe it's a Maine Coon thing or maybe it's all that fuzzy hair but it was hard to tell if Fritzi was female or male as well.

Laura Stamps
May 4th, 2007, 04:50 PM
And Dandelion had a little tiny meow, barely audible as if it came from a mouse or something. It shocked me every time I heard it. You would think a cat that large would have a roaring meow! But he didn't, and it seems that is typical of Maine Coons. Wild, isn't it? Did your kitty have a tiny meow too?

Lunacie
May 4th, 2007, 05:19 PM
I don't really remember, maybe because she didn't meow much? She was really quiet, even when she was in heat. I thought she was really sick when she went into her first heat, she was dragging her hindquarters across the floor like her back legs were paralyzed or something. It was funny looking and scary at the same time. I didn't know whether to laugh or call the vet.

She was a climber, the cat I have now jumps onto the counters and table, but has never gotten up on the fridge or anything. Fritzi's favorite spot was on top of the 4-drawer filing cabinet in the dining room.

The winter I was sick with some flu virus and spent a month in bed (seriously - scared the crap out of my daughter), Fritzi spent most the month on the bed with me, even though she was really my daughter's cat and ususally slept with her. Funny how cats do that, eh.

Laura Stamps
May 5th, 2007, 10:17 AM
I don't really remember, maybe because she didn't meow much? She was really quiet, even when she was in heat. I thought she was really sick when she went into her first heat, she was dragging her hindquarters across the floor like her back legs were paralyzed or something. It was funny looking and scary at the same time. I didn't know whether to laugh or call the vet.

She was a climber, the cat I have now jumps onto the counters and table, but has never gotten up on the fridge or anything. Fritzi's favorite spot was on top of the 4-drawer filing cabinet in the dining room.

The winter I was sick with some flu virus and spent a month in bed (seriously - scared the crap out of my daughter), Fritzi spent most the month on the bed with me, even though she was really my daughter's cat and ususally slept with her. Funny how cats do that, eh.


Dandelion meowed a lot to me, very softly, a tiny meow for such a big cat, but he was very talkative. What scared me was he meowed very loud and harsh, not at all his usual meow, when the cancer got him. I could tell he was in pain. It was a hard 9 days for us both. Still makes me teary-eyed to think of it.

Speaking of that, cats are amazing when we don't feel well or are upset. I don't know if it is because they are so scheduled, and when anything out of the ordinary happens they want in on the action, or what. But I know being an Empath, I am very prone to tears at any time when emotions hit me (mine or someone else's), and my cats crowd around me, trying to comfort me, so I'm not surprised she spent that month in bed with you. Cats are such a comfort!!

Dandelion was a great tree climber. Always surprised me, because he was not what you would call a graceful cat by any means. But he could climb trees like a pro!

By the way, I got another email from the relative of Alfred Strathmore in England. He has no photos of Alfred, and the last time he saw Alfred he was 4 years old. Bummer because Alfred would have been the age he is now in spirit form, and if John (my contact) had been a little older he could have confirmed my description of Alfred at that age. So this may be the end of the line. Or not. I responded by telling him how I know Alfred (I haven't done that up until now, you know how people can be about spirit stuff). If he is into the paranormal I will hear from him again. If not, I won't. But I'll let you know if I do.

Astara Seague
May 8th, 2007, 11:51 AM
I love celebrating the Sabbats and such with my coven but by the time the night is over I feel so drained and exhausted, Im still trying to recover, usually I can pull out of things easily but I dont know why but this always happens

Lunacie
May 8th, 2007, 12:00 PM
Hmm, a couple of thoughts. When you help cast the circle -are you using your own personal energy instead of drawing up earth energy or drawing down moon or universe energy?

Do you take time before joining the group or starting the ritual to Ground yourself - get rid of anything negative you might bring into the circle and draw some nice fresh energy into yourself, and settle that energy into your Center?

Next time try to sense if any one person seems to be drawing energy from the rest of the group, or if they are bringing negative energy into the circle instead of "leaving it at the door".

Lorrie
May 8th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Hello everyone! Things are getting better around here for now. My sons GF has moved in with us now, good thing, my van and my sons jeep both have issues right now. Her car is not running too great, hopefully it will get them through until we can get our cars moving again- well, mine will move, it is the stopping that is the problem, wouldn't be that big of a problem if it wasn't for the crash at the end when it is finally too late, yes?:hahugh: Some of the pressure of the kids is lifted with Leah here and I am slowly pulling out of the fog of negativity. Getting back into the garden is also helping alot, nothing to balance me out like sticking my hands into this wonderful clay mud here and try to coax flowers to grow in it.
Funny, things were so bad last year here that I didn't spend much time in the yard like I usually would, but this year I have spent lots of time out there, and today felt the "re-connection" with my yard, feeling a part of it here again, it was only then that I had realized that I had lost my deep connection with it here. It hit me fairly hard when I connected with it, got my attention! I immediately calmed from the stress that has plagued me for the past several months! It felt so good, I just sat right down and enjoyed the feeling. And didn't finish the planting I was doing at the time. Maybe tomorrow. :wave:

Astara Seague
May 9th, 2007, 11:12 AM
Hmm, a couple of thoughts. When you help cast the circle -are you using your own personal energy instead of drawing up earth energy or drawing down moon or universe energy?

Do you take time before joining the group or starting the ritual to Ground yourself - get rid of anything negative you might bring into the circle and draw some nice fresh energy into yourself, and settle that energy into your Center?

Next time try to sense if any one person seems to be drawing energy from the rest of the group, or if they are bringing negative energy into the circle instead of "leaving it at the door".I am pretty sure I know who it is, I have talked to the whole group about it, not wanting to single the one out, but I think the time has come that I am going to have to speak with her personally even though , this person has been with the coven for awhile and thinks she is "better" then some others, and is quite judgemental about the others in the group
if its not her there is another who doesnt take anything to seriously and Im wondering if her energy is assisting as well
but then it could be both, or maybe its me for worrying about it so much, no one else seems as effected as I get but then again I am the High Preistess and somehow I think Im the Mother or something I just want everyone to be happy and helpful and love each other... sometimes it gets a little frusterating

Lunacie
May 9th, 2007, 12:07 PM
Lorrie! That's wonderful that things are looking brighter for you at last.


AstaraSeague, I hope you'll be able to work things out with your group. It really sucks when one person can ruin the dynamics for everyone, and when confronted often leave in a huff, thereby making the others feel like they must take sides. Good luck.

(I think our group is going through an upheaval as well. *sigh* )

Astara Seague
May 10th, 2007, 11:41 AM
well its that time of year I suppose..hang in there, Im sure going to try

Contra Mundum
May 12th, 2007, 04:27 PM
It's been a long time since I've been here!
How is everyone?
I needed a break from this place, but tonight as I was reading something about Indigo Children I thought of this place, and just had to visit.
It feels so strange to be here..

Lorrie
May 12th, 2007, 04:37 PM
I agree, MW just isn't the same. :spaceman: . I do more reading than posting any more! I just went and bumped up my mothers day threads from last year to be funny, I wonder if anyone will even notice that they were from last year and not new.:hahugh: Funny thing today. Ry was outside cleaning out his other car, and ( on the day before mothers day) he found Jamies engagement ring in that car. How weird is that? Of all places to find the ring, too. I think she wants Caitlyn to have it. It will be a weird one tomorrow, Ry celebrating mothers day with a new GF that is in Jamies place, and Leah has been "momless" since she was I think she said 12 years old, so I know it is a rough one for her as well. Of course, mothers day isn't the end of it, anniversary day is next month. And then after that will be the one year since she died.

Lorrie
May 12th, 2007, 05:43 PM
And I just went back and re-read the happy mothers day thread I bumped, forgetting that there was a very special message there for me from last year.

Lunacie
May 12th, 2007, 07:45 PM
It's been a long time since I've been here!
How is everyone?
I needed a break from this place, but tonight as I was reading something about Indigo Children I thought of this place, and just had to visit.
It feels so strange to be here..

HEY! Good to see you again. You've been missed.

There have been a few changes in MW, but they are for the better I believe. The place feels ... um, cleaner to me. Not so much angst.

Update from my end. I had a wonderful talk with my 9 year old granddaughter about a week ago as we were walking to the bus stop. I told her that I think she's Empathic just like me. I asked her if she was upset about anything when she went to school the day she came home crying, or if anything awful had happened to her. She was fine when she left home that day, and nothing worse than usual, except for having a substitute teacher who was very cranky.

She really seemed to understand that she may have been sensing the teacher's upset, and that she needs to take a moment when she starts feeling upset and see if anything has happened to make her feel that way, or if someone around her seems to be upset - that she may be picking it up from them.

I don't know if she understood how to be sympathetic towards someone else who is upset without being empathetic and taking that feeling into her own gut. But it's a start. We'll talk about it again over the summer, and when school starts we'll see how she does with a whole bunch of people around her again. If it gets too hard for her to deal with, then we'll start talking about shields.

Gosh, she's growing up so fast. :hahugh:

Lunacie
May 12th, 2007, 07:49 PM
I agree, MW just isn't the same. :spaceman: . I do more reading than posting any more! I just went and bumped up my mothers day threads from last year to be funny, I wonder if anyone will even notice that they were from last year and not new.:hahugh: Funny thing today. Ry was outside cleaning out his other car, and ( on the day before mothers day) he found Jamies engagement ring in that car. How weird is that? Of all places to find the ring, too. I think she wants Caitlyn to have it. It will be a weird one tomorrow, Ry celebrating mothers day with a new GF that is in Jamies place, and Leah has been "momless" since she was I think she said 12 years old, so I know it is a rough one for her as well. Of course, mothers day isn't the end of it, anniversary day is next month. And then after that will be the one year since she died.

Why do you think MW feels different now? In a bad way or in a good way... or just different somehow?

What a lovely thing for Jamie to do, nudge Ryan into cleaning out the car and finding her ring just in time to give it to Caityn for Mother's Day. Wow, that's a lot of anniversary kind of days all in a row, I know anniversaries can bring back all the pain of loosing someone. Hugs to you and your family as you go through this time. Together. With lovely new energy in your lives with Leah there now. :hugz:

Astara Seague
May 13th, 2007, 12:15 PM
I think MW has changed, it was getting pretty bad there for awhile, but hopefully with the new rules and such it will get better

Lorrie
May 13th, 2007, 06:34 PM
MW seems kinda restricted, before people posted happily and freely, now everyone seems to have to be so careful about what they say, I do hope it gets better. It seems kinda cold and unfriendly compared to even a year ago. Actually, I hope I am not offending anyone here, but it seemed to change about the time several people came on MW, and it seemed to break out into arguments and nothing but trouble. It seems like several people came on MW just to cause problems.

Lunacie
May 13th, 2007, 07:12 PM
I think MW has changed, it was getting pretty bad there for awhile, but hopefully with the new rules and such it will get better

MW seems kinda restricted, before people posted happily and freely, now everyone seems to have to be so careful about what they say, I do hope it gets better. It seems kinda cold and unfriendly compared to even a year ago. Actually, I hope I am not offending anyone here, but it seemed to change about the time several people came on MW, and it seemed to break out into arguments and nothing but trouble. It seems like several people came on MW just to cause problems.

Yah, I agree. It was pretty rocky for awhile. It does seem like one group showed up and did nothing but cause discord, arguments and trouble. It will take a little time for folks to realize that this is the same friendly place it used to be before all that. A lot of the people who had some definite opinions but got tired of having to defend them all the time have come back again, and I think it's getting better.

wtfidka
May 14th, 2007, 06:43 AM
:cheers: :wave: :viking: :viking:

Lunacie
May 14th, 2007, 09:21 AM
:cheers: :wave: :viking: :viking:

Welcome to the Bunker wtfidka (love the name :lol: ). I hope you aren't overwhelmed by the sheer size of this thread, I can't really figure any way to divide it into smaller chunks by subject. But there are several smaller threads here in this forum and I hope you'll browse around and share some of your own experiences with us.

Astara Seague
May 14th, 2007, 12:02 PM
Yah, I agree. It was pretty rocky for awhile. It does seem like one group showed up and did nothing but cause discord, arguments and trouble. It will take a little time for folks to realize that this is the same friendly place it used to be before all that. A lot of the people who had some definite opinions but got tired of having to defend them all the time have come back again, and I think it's getting better.I couldnt have said it better myself

Diotima
May 25th, 2007, 09:00 AM
I just popped in to say hi to everyone.

I hope you're all feeling well. Last time when I visited here, I complained of this general bad feeling that many of us had been experiencing. I'm happy to tell that for me, it has now passed. Nothing special has happened, though. But I'm happier than for many months.

Lunacie, I loved the story of your granddaughter. You are a very wise grandma!

Lunacie
May 25th, 2007, 10:44 AM
I sure didn't feel so wise or such a good gramma last night. My grandaughter is so much like me ... when I asked her to put the clean dishes away she gave me this "look" and used this "voice" to explain that she had made a plan with her mother that she would do this chore in the morning and she didn't have to start doing it until after school was out. Yesterday was the last day of school and I asked her to help just before starting to cook supper. Oops.

Well, apparently I turned the "look" and the "voice" back on her because my daughter got between us and tried to calm the situation, which backfired horribly.

Later she talked to each of us individually and today we're going to try watching how we talk to each other, and look at each other, and see if we can catch these things before they get ugly.

Trouble is, with both of us being strong empaths, it's hard to figure out who gets pissed about something first, eh. And identifying the emotions and being responsible only for our own emotions is important I think.

Lorrie
May 30th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Hi all! I still don't get online but for a few minutes at a time, so much to do, never enough time. My babysitting my daughters baby girl is now all week, and I now get a day or two break from the babies that live with me since my sons new GF takes them once a week for a playdate with her friends little girl, and she usually takes them to do something fun on her other day off. Other than that I have one window of opportunity when the babies here take their afternoon naps at the same time, it gives me about two hours to get things done that I can't get done when they are awake. Caitlyn is growing up into a good little helper now, she acts and looks more like a four year old than a two year old. Kyle is a bit better, not getting into quite so much trouble, but mainly because Caitlyn yells at him when he is being naughty and I am in another room! Baby girl, Jaklyn has decided she is grandma's girl the past few days and won't even let my dad hold her, and he is one of her favorite people, so I have had to run between taking advantage of my parents being here to get a few more things done, but then Jaklyn would realize I was not in the room and begin to get all upset.( what, I have never spoiled a kid before!!!:hahugh: ) By 1:00 in the afternoon, I was too tired to move and still had to get outside and cut the grass when the kids napped. I usually get online for a few minutes at a time, not much time for myself anymore. For an attitude adjustment I go weed a garden. The kids love to play outside, but we live in a "swamp" and the skeeters are horrible. I have to wear 100% deet to walk outside the door. The skeeters that come out in the evening don't care how much deet you have on. My gardens are looking so pretty, but I can't stand to be outside for long to enjoy them! It seems like once the summer dries things out a bit more late July it gets a little better as long as I stay well in the yard and don't get too close to the woods. My little attic kitten ( now named Tasselhoff Burrfoot) is outside playing but misses his attention, every time I step outside he comes running as fast as his little legs will carry him! He is keeping the "enemy" populations down for me outside, it is fun to watch him chase frogs across the grass. Not so fun while trying to dig holes for plants and he thinks I dug it for him and can't understand why he can't squat over it!:boing:

Lunacie
May 31st, 2007, 11:11 AM
Wow, what an er... interesting and busy life you're leading these days. I know just having two little ones around a few years ago was tough for me, and I could turn them over to their mommy in the evening. Even now, I have time that I simply have to retire to my room at the end of the hall, shut the door, and turn on the electric fan for white noise. Just need a little alone time now and then.

I've been hearing about the book "The Explosive Child" for a few years now, but have never read it. Things were chaotic and noisy at the library and I retreated around a corner I didn't even realize was there (I generally stick to the same few rows of books - mystery fiction) and browsed the new section while waiting for the grandkids to pick out some books. And that title about jumped off the shelf. Clearly it's time for me to read this. Not just for my grandkids, but really for me. I still get stressed and explode, and have even scared the kids a few times. I know the oldest is an empath like her gramma, so when I loose control it really hits her hard.

Astara Seague
May 31st, 2007, 11:31 AM
I dont think Id be evry good at babysitting young children, I havent had any around for so many years, and I dont think I have even close to as much patience with them as I used to , at least the ones I do see around like in stores etc.. none of my kids are really talking about having kids anytime soon, so I have awhile I hope :hahugh:

Lunacie
May 31st, 2007, 12:03 PM
My daughter wasn't talking about having kids either. I thought I was always only going to be gramma to a basset hound. Not a bad thing really.

I was 47 when my first granddaughter was born. I was on the brink of full menopause. I was separated from my husband. My life was certainly chaotic. But I loved having my little one come and spend the day with me at my house while her mommy went to cosmetology college and then when her mommy went to work. By the time the next one was born I was divorced and I moved in with the kids. Then my daughter got divorced and we bought a house together. I can't imagine being the kind of gramma who only gets to see the kids for a week in the summer and a few days at Christmas break.

daphenrose
May 31st, 2007, 01:10 PM
I can only hope for the same Lunacie. I grew up with my grandparents in my life alot, and cherish it. My kids don't have the same, and its awful. There really is nothing like the love of grandma.

WhoseLineBabygirl
May 31st, 2007, 05:20 PM
well really glad that you made this thread! how long have you all know you were sensatives/empaths?

i think i knew when i was a kid but i didnt know what it was i mean hell i cry at Disney movies when a character is sad

Lunacie
May 31st, 2007, 06:31 PM
I think most of us have shared all that around here some where. While we didn't have a name for it (empathy) we've always been chastized by family, teachers, bosses, even friends for 'Being Over-Sensitive', 'Taking Things Too Personally', or 'Having a Thin Skin.'

I finally found out what it is and started taking responsibility and control when I began studying metaphysics about 17 years ago.

Lorrie
May 31st, 2007, 06:49 PM
Wow, what an er... interesting and busy life you're leading these days. I know just having two little ones around a few years ago was tough for me, and I could turn them over to their mommy in the evening. Even now, I have time that I simply have to retire to my room at the end of the hall, shut the door, and turn on the electric fan for white noise. Just need a little alone time now and then.



Caitlyn even shares a room with me, I don't even have a room to escape to! That is why my escape is the garden- of course, I am not complaining about that, that is my favorite place to be anyways! I know someday Ry will head back out on his own again, I am gonna have a really rough time when that day comes. This from the queen of hermits.:lol: I think I have had my room to myself two nights since last July! I get sooooo exhausted, but I can't imagine life without them living with me now. I don't want to either.

Lorrie
May 31st, 2007, 06:55 PM
I can only hope for the same Lunacie. I grew up with my grandparents in my life alot, and cherish it. My kids don't have the same, and its awful. There really is nothing like the love of grandma.



This is one thing that I really like about our situation, my parents are over here playing with the kids almost every day, these babies not only get to know grandma, they get to be close to great-grandparents too, which I feel is also VERY good for my parents! Jamies family doesn't have hardly anything to do with these kids, only their older brother who lives with his real dad now, we don't get to see him, but Jamies family takes him for weekends sometimes, they rarely even call to see how these kids are doing.( Jamie was my DIL, she died last September for those who have no idea what I am talking about). Our family dotes on them and makes up for the mothers family though, if that is really even possible.

Lunacie
May 31st, 2007, 07:05 PM
Yeah, it's too bad that my grandkids don't have a paternal grandpa or a relationship with the great-grands. My ex died almost 4 years ago (at the age of 50) so the little one never really knew him. My mom died (at the age of 70) when the oldest was just a baby. My dad isn't good with kids and lives almost 3 hours away.

The grandparents on their dad's side also live 3 hours away - in the other direction. ;) And since they're older there aren't any great-grands on that side either.

So, since the oldest almost certainly inherited Empathy from me, and there's a chance the little one did too, I'd better stay around to help them understand and cope with this, eh.

(how about that, I got this back on topic) :lol:

WhoseLineBabygirl
May 31st, 2007, 10:23 PM
I think most of us have shared all that around here some where. While we didn't have a name for it (empathy) we've always been chastized by family, teachers, bosses, even friends for 'Being Over-Sensitive', 'Taking Things Too Personally', or 'Having a Thin Skin.'

I finally found out what it is and started taking responsibility and control when I began studying metaphysics about 17 years ago.


i know what you mean i'm forever being told that i take think things too personly

Lunacie
May 31st, 2007, 11:40 PM
i know what you mean i'm forever being told that i take think things too personly

Yep, sure sign of an Empath.

Welcome to the Bunker ... uh, Babygirl. :wave:

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 1st, 2007, 12:08 AM
Yep, sure sign of an Empath.

Welcome to the Bunker ... uh, Babygirl. :wave:

thanks. you can call me Caitlin if you want:hugz:

daphenrose
June 1st, 2007, 12:30 AM
Wow the bunker feels nice. Thanks Lunacie, and all other empaths. Honestly, most my life I've been alone. And here I can really feel the *I know what you are feeling* vibe. Wow, I can actually relax for once. Wow.

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 1st, 2007, 12:44 AM
heey Daphen!:wave:

daphenrose
June 1st, 2007, 12:48 AM
Thanks! Call me daphne. I got overexcited when I first registered, and got careless w/ my typing. :D

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 1st, 2007, 01:09 AM
Thanks! Call me daphne. I got overexcited when I first registered, and got careless w/ my typing. :D

k i'll try to remember that, heeey Daphne:wave:

Contra Mundum
June 1st, 2007, 09:48 AM
HEY! Good to see you again. You've been missed.

There have been a few changes in MW, but they are for the better I believe. The place feels ... um, cleaner to me. Not so much angst.

Update from my end. I had a wonderful talk with my 9 year old granddaughter about a week ago as we were walking to the bus stop. I told her that I think she's Empathic just like me. I asked her if she was upset about anything when she went to school the day she came home crying, or if anything awful had happened to her. She was fine when she left home that day, and nothing worse than usual, except for having a substitute teacher who was very cranky.

She really seemed to understand that she may have been sensing the teacher's upset, and that she needs to take a moment when she starts feeling upset and see if anything has happened to make her feel that way, or if someone around her seems to be upset - that she may be picking it up from them.

I don't know if she understood how to be sympathetic towards someone else who is upset without being empathetic and taking that feeling into her own gut. But it's a start. We'll talk about it again over the summer, and when school starts we'll see how she does with a whole bunch of people around her again. If it gets too hard for her to deal with, then we'll start talking about shields.

Gosh, she's growing up so fast. :hahugh:

I see they've changed the skin again, not sure what to think of it.
I try to pop in every now and again, but I've been occupied.

They all grow up too fast!
She's lucky to have you around to help her with this, and at such a young age she can learn so much.
To have someone to guide you in all this is very helpful.
I hope she will be able to deal with everything, but I'm sure she will.

I went to a psychic yesterday for the first time.
What an experience, she told me things no one could have known, it was quite surreal.
She said I was gifted in many ways, an old soul, highly sensitive and that I will get a new gift.
I wasn't too happy when I heard what she said, she said that in the near future I will be able to smell when people are going to die.
I was quite shocked, she also said I had healing hands, I've always had a feeling about that.
It really was an experience, I'm glad I went.

Lunacie
June 1st, 2007, 09:54 AM
thanks. you can call me Caitlin if you want:hugz:

Okie dokie. My granddaughter's name is Katlin and people are always calling her Kaitlin. It used to upset her, amusing hearing a not-quite-3-year-old correcting the doctor or nurse or anyone. She's 9 now and it doesn't seem to bother her so much.


Thanks! Call me daphne. I got overexcited when I first registered, and got careless w/ my typing. :D

Ah, I wondered about that. My spelling and grammar are pretty good, but I make quite a few typos and don't always catch them, and then wonder if people think I'm some kind of brain-dead-crone. :lol:

It's lovely when we have new folks show up here in the Bunker and I can FEEL the relief that they've found a place where people understand and don't think they're nuts. I know the original thread is humongous now, but there's a lot of good information stored in there. I just haven't been able to think of any way to divide that thread into smaller sections. :geez:

And we keep growing and adding new threads. Please feel free to talk about your experiences and ask questions. Share links if you've found other helpful websites or books. Just hang out and let your hair down. :hugz:

daphenrose
June 1st, 2007, 01:52 PM
I was just reading thru the bunker, and saw folks mentioning their life after 9/11. I too was sick for days after, but my son who was around 4 at the time, was so messed up by it, didn't want to go outside for 6 months. It was pretty traumatic for him. He is probably more empathic than me, and I can be pretty strong at times.
Anyway this s a great place and thanks for the greets.

Lunacie
June 1st, 2007, 02:17 PM
The Branch Dividian mess and the OK City bombing both bothered me a lot and I was more shielded by the time 9-11 happened so it didn't bother me as much. I had also learned not to have the tv on all day long. My granddaughter was only 4 so she watched PBS or children's videos while I was online or working around the house. We also got out and went to story time at the library or just went shopping or to PlayLand at BurgerKing.

Of course I was also more focused on family matters since my second granddaughter was born just 2 weeks after 9-11 and that was fairly distracting for me. ;)

daphenrose
June 1st, 2007, 03:32 PM
He didn't see more than ten minutes of it. It was just too upsetting. I think he just felt the chaos and pain and it scared him.

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 1st, 2007, 04:43 PM
I was just reading thru the bunker, and saw folks mentioning their life after 9/11. I too was sick for days after, but my son who was around 4 at the time, was so messed up by it, didn't want to go outside for 6 months. It was pretty traumatic for him. He is probably more empathic than me, and I can be pretty strong at times.
Anyway this s a great place and thanks for the greets.


that day i had so many emotions flying at me it scared me. fear and hate were two of the biggest emotions i felt that day and a couple of days after that, by the end of the week i was just so tired and then i finally dealt with my own emotions after that. horrible week

Lorrie
June 4th, 2007, 12:08 AM
My granddaughter's name is also Caitlyn!!!! She is the best roommate I have ever had! ( she is the older girl in the pic in my siggy)
I did something to my wrist Saturday, I have no idea, I never felt it get injured in any way, it is all swelled up on the thumb side, my whole hand is swelled up from it, I can't use that hand, can't change diapers(bummer:lol:) can't pick up or hold the babies, can't type too well either. I can't grasp anything because it is so swelled, I can't touch it to try to feel what is wrong. It got sore Saturday evening, I didn't bump it or anything, it hurts enough that I would have been sure to know I had hit it on something. I have to keep it upwards or it throbs real bad. I can't bend the fingers on that hand very far. It is occasionally shooting pains up to my elbow. I had to watch the kids alone most of the day ( gee, imagine THAT happening) so I ended up having to use it a few times which probably has aggravated it even more. I hope it gets better soon, it is making me mad!

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 4th, 2007, 12:27 AM
hope you feel better! Caitlin seems to be a very popular name i know a few people with the same name as me just spelled differently

Lunacie
June 4th, 2007, 10:30 AM
Lorrie, that sounds like a sprain, but surely you would have noticed whatever you did to sprain it. Then there's also small bone breakage or green stick fracture, and dislocation. I dislocated my knee last year and didn't know what was wrong for a couple of months, just kept walking around on it. Well... limping around.

I fell about 6 years ago and reached out to catch myself, and totally messed up one of my fingers. It was broken, AND dislocated, AND the ligament was stretched way out of whack (same as a sprain). Had to have surgery on that mess.

Did you fall on Friday or Saturday, or catch something that was falling?

Hugs and healing energies from me to you. :hugz:

Lunacie
June 4th, 2007, 10:37 AM
I see they've changed the skin again, not sure what to think of it.
I try to pop in every now and again, but I've been occupied.

They all grow up too fast!
She's lucky to have you around to help her with this, and at such a young age she can learn so much.
To have someone to guide you in all this is very helpful.
I hope she will be able to deal with everything, but I'm sure she will.

I went to a psychic yesterday for the first time.
What an experience, she told me things no one could have known, it was quite surreal.
She said I was gifted in many ways, an old soul, highly sensitive and that I will get a new gift.
I wasn't too happy when I heard what she said, she said that in the near future I will be able to smell when people are going to die.
I was quite shocked, she also said I had healing hands, I've always had a feeling about that.
It really was an experience, I'm glad I went.

OH! I missed this post. HI there. Good to see ya.

Talk about things changing, you've changed your avatar again. ;)

Ah healing hands. I've always had those but didn't learn how to use the gift until I was almost 40. I had been curious about Reiki for about 10 years before that, but didn't take the class and get my attunement until I was over 50. It didn't make the gift any stronger. :(

Hm, smell when people are going to die? I can tell when certain dead people are around me because I smell them, but "the smell of death" is a new one for me. I'm glad you enjoyed your visit with the psychic. :)

Astara Seague
June 4th, 2007, 11:04 AM
one of my gifts has to do with the dead as well, I know the exact moment when they die, I think it has to do with my Empathic abilities and sometimes I get to escort them usually only when they are close members of my family, my family is always amazed when they call to tell me that someone has passed and I already know, it used to scare me but anymore I dont mind it so much

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 4th, 2007, 03:56 PM
whenever i'm at someones funereal i tend to sense there at it watching it and when there finally buried they seem to cross over because i cant feel them anymore, the last funeral i went to was my grandpa's i felt him through most of the day and when the funeral ended he crossed over

Lunacie
June 4th, 2007, 07:51 PM
I have a friend who can also sense other deceased family members who attend the funeral as well.

Lorrie
June 4th, 2007, 08:58 PM
I could feel Jamie here with us for three days after she died, I had the feeling that this was a grieving time given for her, sort of like the significance of the three days after death and rose again, it is like an adjustment time for the dead. I don't qwuite know how to explain it, I felt the message more than heard it. She kept telling me over and over that this wasn't supposed to happen, I didn't understand what she meant until we found out that it was leukemia and no one knew. She has been close by me here though, and some days I don't know what I would do without her supportive thoughts. The only time she wasn't supportive was when I got so upset over this new GF in my sons life and I wanted her help in getting rid of her, and Jamie told me no, this was her idea and what she wanted for Ry, to back off and give her a chance, this was how it was to be. This was around the time that I was finally able to really let go of her.
My wrist is a little better today unless I accidently use it, but it doesn't hurt for long when that happens. The last fall I had was last week or so, when I fell down the deck steps, my stupid nerve damage, I can't feel where my feet are, so I didn't know I was stepping on the side of a hole that squirrels had dug there, I ended up going down the step on my ankle instead of on my foot! I haven't caught anything falling, you get out of that habit when you work as an electrician, you just let stuff fall!!!!It is still sore if I am on my feet too long. It started to hurt Saturday night, I can't think of anything I could have done, no falls, no bumps, nothing. It is a soft bump on the thumb side of my wrist, It kinda feels like there may be a lump just below the wrist, maybe pea sized, but I can't stand to touch it to see for sure. It has my whole hand swelled up, can't grasp or pick up stuff with that hand. It isn't throbbing today, so it is slowly getting better. I was able to dig a few more spots in my veggie garden today and get the rest of my herbs planted, then get supper cooked. Leah is home now, so I have a break from the kids now thankfully.( I have to admit, Jamie did good with this one!!!). If it is this much better today, it should be fine tomorrow. My "Caily- Rose" needs to quit making me pick her up and hold her though. Or, Bamma needs to tell her "no", yeah, like THAT is gonna happen!:hahugh:

Lunacie
June 4th, 2007, 11:29 PM
Yeah, sounds like a sprain. I know how hard it is not to pick them up when they're little. I hurt my lower back when my daughter was only 2 and the doctor said not to pick her up. Well, how was I supposed to put her in her crib or get her out?

People love to complain about their in-laws but you and Jamie sure have a good in-law relationship, even now. That's really cool.

Lorrie
June 6th, 2007, 10:32 PM
Wrist seems to be all better for the most part, it only hurt when I tried to pick up the bags of salt for the water softener, but my son got them for me after the first one thank goodness, I thought I would be hurting all day from it, but I never felt any trouble at all. I spent the afternoon greenhouse hopping with my sis, very good trip this time, we finally found what we had been looking for. We will be giving that place lots more of our business!:cheers: kids were little angels the whole trip. They tend to do good if I can get them out of the house at least once a week, then my sons gf takes them for a play date on Thursdays, that seems to help them be much better behaved. Not everyone can be a hermit like grandma is! Now I have lots more to plant, and it looks like my freshly made new herb bed will need to be bigger already. Less grass to cut that way!

Lunacie
June 6th, 2007, 11:22 PM
Good, it does sound like a sprain. So glad to hear it's doing better.

Hmm, weeding or mowing... which would I rather do?

Given that I still can't kneel from the knee joint that was dislocated last November but I can walk and push a mower... I just do what I've gotta do.

Lorrie
June 6th, 2007, 11:50 PM
I love doing yard work! It makes it better when I know that someday I may n0 longer have the use of my feet. I have to keep a bucket of sand in the winter for when I get unsettled, I stick my hands in it until I feel better. Funny though, my signs are all fire! Maybe the sand banks my fire a little and balances me out? I am hoping the rain holds off tomorrow, I have lots to do and am eager to get digging and planting! I bought more catnip plants to replace the ones that my outside kitten attacked. Maybe I should just leave them in a planter, he didn't bother them in there, only after I put them in the herb bed. I have been able to sleep in all week while my daughter is on vacation, normally she brings her baby girl over at 5:00am every weekday. I am getting very spoiled with sleeping in! I probably won't get a vacation until next year to sleep in every day. I am taking full advantage!:boing::boing::boing:

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 7th, 2007, 12:03 AM
mowing sounds better, call me a dork but i actually like to mow peoples lawns to me its fun

Lunacie
June 7th, 2007, 11:54 AM
Yah, I like mowing better too. Maybe because I can see the results immediately instead of waiting for them?

The balance between fire and earth is probably at least part of the reason that's important, Lorrie. I know I'm a water person and I really get miserable when there's no air flow. I love breezes and when I'm stuck inside in the winter or summer when I can't have the windows open, I nearly always have a fan running to circulate the air.

Lorrie
June 7th, 2007, 02:10 PM
that made me think, I am erratic when the wind is high like it is today, I am a wound up spring, maybe it is the wind stoking the flames? I sure am getting alot done though today!!!

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 7th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Yah, I like mowing better too. Maybe because I can see the results immediately instead of waiting for them?

The balance between fire and earth is probably at least part of the reason that's important, Lorrie. I know I'm a water person and I really get miserable when there's no air flow. I love breezes and when I'm stuck inside in the winter or summer when I can't have the windows open, I nearly always have a fan running to circulate the air.


do you leave the fan on even in winter? i do that and people think i'm weird but it helps me sleep

Lunacie
June 7th, 2007, 03:27 PM
I'm very sensitive to bright lights and any noises, and I have to sleep with a fan on too just for the "white noise".

I think it also does something to help my mind stop turning over every little thing I felt all day.

Lorrie
June 9th, 2007, 06:34 PM
Tomorrow is Jamies birthday. I wonder if she will get a happy birthday thread on here, it would be kinda awesome if she does really! I would definatly post on it:flowers:

Astara Seague
June 12th, 2007, 11:25 AM
I think alot of people would post on it too Lorrie

I love being outside in my garden by my pond there is nothing quite as relaxing to me! And I love to mow as well, the only thing is my hubby wont allow it! he said its 'the mans "job :spaceman: I say whatever!!

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 12th, 2007, 02:06 PM
have any of you sensed any tension on the message board lately? i have and its gotton to the point where i was a little afraid of coming on here because there was so much of it

Lunacie
June 12th, 2007, 02:24 PM
Yah, there's been a little. It's not across the whole board, just here and there. That's pretty normal in an online forum. It seems to go in cycles. Every couple of months you'll notice several posts complaining about it. Then in a week or so it seems to mellow out again.

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 12th, 2007, 02:27 PM
it seems to have mellowed out now which is good

Lorrie
June 12th, 2007, 03:30 PM
My neighbor came over almost in tears this morning, she just now heard about Jamie! I don't know my neighbors very well, it is a wonderful neighborhood where everyone keeps their distance but not in an unfriendly way, just in a respectful way. The neighbors all saw the emergency vehicles that day, but figured Brion had managed to hurt himself playing with his arsenal of guns so no one really thought much of it, once they saw me out walking or outside and they knew nothing had happened to me. ( I didn't realize how many people in our neighborhood were irritated with his constant playing with his guns outside!!!) None of them knew that Brion had moved out about a year before this happened, they just figured he was out on the road on a long job again. This was one of the only neighbors that I have ever really talked to. I have the feeling now that she knows Brion isn't here I will probably see more of her!

Lunacie
June 12th, 2007, 07:36 PM
I'm lost. Who is Brion?

That'll be nice to have neighbors who are friendly, as long as they aren't over all the time. ;)

Lorrie
June 13th, 2007, 10:35 PM
I'm lost. Who is Brion?

That'll be nice to have neighbors who are friendly, as long as they aren't over all the time. ;)


My ex-bf, we were still together when I moved here. He moved out almost two years ago now. We split on bad terms a year ago November, we didn't speak until just after Jamie died, he called out of the blue, he said he didn't know why but he had the feeling he should call. You can imagine how bad I broke down telling him about it. He had never treated Jamie very nice- but then he never treated most people very nice either. We talk often now and get along and are friends now.

Lunacie
June 13th, 2007, 10:56 PM
Ah, thanks for explaining. It sounds like you're probably better off without him, but hopefully you had a good influence on him and he's making better choices in his life now. Too bad my ex and I couldn't have remained friends, but he betrayed me too badly - in large part because he misunderstood me so badly. I get reports that he understands much better now from his perspective on the other side.

Sobeq
June 13th, 2007, 11:13 PM
Oh man, it's nice being able to understand my empathy. I have no idea how or why, but I've been having an easier and easier time narrowing down which emotions are legitimately mine and which are coming from the people around me. I haven't been any more grounded or centered than normal, though I have been getting to know some important Gods in my life better.:whatmeworNot like I'm complaining!

Lorrie
June 13th, 2007, 11:17 PM
Yeah, I would never go back with this guy, he was getting quite mean by the time we split. I am at the point in my life where I don't have room for an SO, in any way. my path requires me to walk alone, by choice, and this is what I choose. It is much less stressful this way! His mom has told me that he would love nothing more than for us to be back together, but he understands how I feel and what my responsibilities are. I'm sure he understands much more now than he did back then. His words were this is how I am, you have to just live with it. He forgot that I have one other option, and that was the one that I chose. He doesn't treat me bad this way, he is respectful, especially since he knows now that I won't put up with him. I guess he really thought I was that weak, that was his first mistake.
I am so drained today. My daughters hours are supposed to change and begin at 7am instead of 5:30am, I sure hope so. Although my granddaughter loves our cuddle up time while we nap until my other granddaughter wakes up! I have such cuddly grandbabies! I can sleep in for two days before the next babysitting day. Tomorrow is my sons gf's day with the kids so I can get the grass cut and get a few things done. The kids sure do love their day with Leah! I love their day with her too, I don't get much alone time any more.:boing:

Lunacie
June 14th, 2007, 12:00 AM
Oh man, it's nice being able to understand my empathy. I have no idea how or why, but I've been having an easier and easier time narrowing down which emotions are legitimately mine and which are coming from the people around me. I haven't been any more grounded or centered than normal, though I have been getting to know some important Gods in my life better.:whatmeworNot like I'm complaining!

Sometimes just realizing that there is a difference is all it takes to be able to recognize that difference. For me some days are better than others in sorting out which are my own feelings and which are coming from other people. And there's no question that the gods may be helping you sort things out. I'm glad to hear someone is doing better. :)

Lunacie
June 14th, 2007, 12:04 AM
Yeah, I would never go back with this guy, he was getting quite mean by the time we split. I am at the point in my life where I don't have room for an SO, in any way. my path requires me to walk alone, by choice, and this is what I choose. It is much less stressful this way! His mom has told me that he would love nothing more than for us to be back together, but he understands how I feel and what my responsibilities are. I'm sure he understands much more now than he did back then. His words were this is how I am, you have to just live with it. He forgot that I have one other option, and that was the one that I chose. He doesn't treat me bad this way, he is respectful, especially since he knows now that I won't put up with him. I guess he really thought I was that weak, that was his first mistake.
I am so drained today. My daughters hours are supposed to change and begin at 7am instead of 5:30am, I sure hope so. Although my granddaughter loves our cuddle up time while we nap until my other granddaughter wakes up! I have such cuddly grandbabies! I can sleep in for two days before the next babysitting day. Tomorrow is my sons gf's day with the kids so I can get the grass cut and get a few things done. The kids sure do love their day with Leah! I love their day with her too, I don't get much alone time any more.:boing:

It was so hard for me to accept that I was better off without my ex, and I believe it hurt his feelings when I booted him out, but it was what he needed as well.

I don't know how I would cope if my grandchildren didn't spend the weekend with their dad. I really need those two days to restock on peace and quiet. And get a few things done that are just too difficult with the girls both here. I can't believe they will both be in school all day this fall. Whatever will I do all by myself alone? ;)

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 14th, 2007, 12:30 AM
some good alone time would be a good idea for you since your going through a stressful sitution

Lunacie
June 14th, 2007, 10:21 AM
We've talked about how Empaths all seem to need more alone time. I used to beg my hubby to take our daughter and go visit his gramma for the day so I could have a little peace and quiet. It wasn't really that loud around our house with just one kiddo, but the energy poured off my hubby and I would end up on overload at least once a week.

Astara Seague
June 14th, 2007, 11:29 AM
We've talked about how Empaths all seem to need more alone time. I used to beg my hubby to take our daughter and go visit his gramma for the day so I could have a little peace and quiet. It wasn't really that loud around our house with just one kiddo, but the energy poured off my hubby and I would end up on overload at least once a week.I know exactly how you feel! its physically exhausting at times for me around here too, but not only do I have my hubby but my two kids well I guess there not really kids, David is 25 and Shelly is 22 and they bring ALOT home!! I will be glad to get out and go camping this weekend

ShadowStalker
June 14th, 2007, 11:49 AM
We've talked about how Empaths all seem to need more alone time. I used to beg my hubby to take our daughter and go visit his gramma for the day so I could have a little peace and quiet. It wasn't really that loud around our house with just one kiddo, but the energy poured off my hubby and I would end up on overload at least once a week.

I crave alone time... which tends to drive my fiance nuts. I don't have to be ALONE ALONE... but I like to do my own thing. I like to do 'me' things, and I like to do 'us' things...and even being empathic himself, he doesn't necessarily understand the amount of 'me' time that I need. (Did that make any sense whatsoever? :lol: )

On another note... I've been going without any hardcore shields for awhile (I have natural shields that are just there, but they don't do much to filter)... and I feel less closed off from the world. Strange, I was always afraid to take them down for fear of being overloaded... but I think I have things under control.

Lorrie
June 14th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I love going without shields, it makes you feel so alive and real! It has rough spots, but they pass. I am lucky in that my strongest points are tied to nature. Being tied to nature and living in the woods is awesome.

Lunacie
June 14th, 2007, 01:11 PM
I know exactly how you feel! its physically exhausting at times for me around here too, but not only do I have my hubby but my two kids well I guess there not really kids, David is 25 and Shelly is 22 and they bring ALOT home!! I will be glad to get out and go camping this weekend

Did I forget to mention that my 30+ daughter spends the weekends with her boyfriend? And she takes the basset hound with her. Sometimes it gets almost too quiet. :lol:

... almost.

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Going shieldless can be okay, but it takes a certain awareness and abibily to tell the difference between our own feelings and the feelings we pick up here and there. And mostly the ability to release those feelings quickly instead of piling them on top of each other until we're buried under strange feelings.

Drako3
June 20th, 2007, 09:11 PM
I am new here to the MW community and I hope that its okay to just jump in here... ...I have perfected shielding and shutting down my empathy just so that I can function as a normal adult. I have now realized that I never completely shut it off I just dialed it down a notch or two. My main problem was and is that there is so much negativity in my area towards pagans of any kind that just to release any kind of energy causes a massive backlash against me. Its gotten better over the last couple years and I recently started to relax my shielding and open up again do to the fact that I gained a student. I dont feel attacked as much now but its still not the most enjoyable feeling to open up completely but it was a shock to realize that I didnt have my energys as locked down as I thought. I found out recently or realized that my oldest son is an empath as well and is extremely sensitive. So now I have to find a way to teach him to cope with it before he starts school he is five!!!! Anyways just thought that I would throw in my two cents...._tomatoe_

Lorrie
June 20th, 2007, 09:17 PM
Somewhere we have a few posts about taking in this type of energy and transforming it into positive, it would have probably be in the past years posts maybe. There are several ways to help you deal with it. Welcome and please feel free to read and post, and of course rant!:dancy: I think most of us have empath children and a few of us empath grandchildren, thankfully we are here to help them.

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 21st, 2007, 01:11 AM
Drako welcome to the thread!!:smoochypo


i know i defiantly need alone time or some time outs whenever i'm doing something stressful, last weekend i had to get everything done for a tag sale i was having i never knew pricing and sorting stuff was so damn stressful, too many things going on at once i had to take a break every 10 minutes:ahhhhhhh:

Cieraco
June 26th, 2007, 02:05 PM
Its been three years since my last post here. So, I guess this is my greetings to those that remember me from then, and to those who have come in after, and do not.

Hello!

daphenrose
June 26th, 2007, 02:27 PM
Hi Cieraco! I'm daphne, nice to meet you! :wave:

Lunacie
June 26th, 2007, 07:04 PM
Its been three years since my last post here. So, I guess this is my greetings to those that remember me from then, and to those who have come in after, and do not.

Hello!

Sorry, don't remember you... but Welcome Home!

How have you been doing in dealing with your empathy over the last few years?

Lorrie
June 26th, 2007, 08:39 PM
Hi all! I am still alive. My son has only been on his new job a few weeks, and is about to be made manager there, his gf is also getting a job there she starts in two weeks. Good thing because her car died over the weekend. Other than that, same thing different day.My daughter is trying to get her hours changed to start work a little later, this 4:30am stuff is getting us both down! Jaklyn is loving it though, she is ready to snuggle when she gets here, she knows I am going to curl up on the couch with her after mom leaves. Today she didn't even want mom to hold her, she wanted mom to leave so she could get to the cuddles! I kinda felt bad for my daughter, she has always been the center of Jaklyns life and loving it, but then she is happy that Jaklyn loves it here so much too. She is also getting old enough to play with the other two, and loves it when her cousins give her some attention! We were laughing at the girls today, Jaklyn was standing at the coffee table next to Caitlyn and trying to stand just like Caitlyn was, they look like little matching bookends now except one is a bit bigger, they are really beginning to look more and more alike. All three will look alike it looks like. It is kinda looking like all three may be little junior empaths too. I have known Caitlyn and Kyle to be, but it is looking like Jaklyn will be also. THIS should get real interesting in the next few years.

Lunacie
June 27th, 2007, 10:24 AM
The little darlings go through stages as they grow up, where first mommy is their favorite person, then daddy is, then gramma is. My daughter felt displaced and sad when I became the favorite for awhile, but there seems to always be a "mommy bond" eh?

My empathy hasn't been as bothersome lately, but the last few times I went to the grocery store I noticed the head checker wasn't there. The energy in the store just feels different when she's there or when she's not there. Wish it wasn't so far to drive to a different store now and then, but with gas costing so much I'm not driving that extra 10 miles like I used to.

Drako3
June 27th, 2007, 02:04 PM
Strong moral issues where I believe that people are acting in a unintelligent manner tend to set me off and exposes on corruption of the gov or private companies are also a bit hard for me to watch.

Any suggestions other than not watching them, I need to learn some better coping mechanisms any suggestions?

:awilly::awilly::awilly::awilly:

Lorrie
June 27th, 2007, 02:21 PM
Many of us cannot watch the news or any type of breaking news items. It is in the shielding, but there are some things where the feelings are so strong that there is no escape. That is when you have to learn to transform energy to make it more comfortable. Maybe picture a color to the feeling, and change the color of that energy until it becomes an agreeable one. Everyone has different things that work, so this is just one of many to consider. What works for me may not work for anyone else, but then they may be able to take what I do and modify it to fit for them. there were a few classes in the COT that had some good suggestions, but last I looked many of the COT classes were MIA and I don't know which or where they went. Does anyone have any idea or remember the titles of any of the good ones?

WhoseLineBabygirl
June 27th, 2007, 02:29 PM
i know the wrestling guy that murdered his wife and son and then himself disturbs me quite a bit i watch the news footage and everytime i see his house on the news i sense his presense still there and he seems very sad a