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Aldrick
July 25th, 2003, 09:08 PM
Firstly, I appologize. I couldn't think of any better name, I did however think it were fitting because many Empaths I've spoken to, whether new or long-time feel the need to 'Bunker' themselves from everyone else at time to time before they get overwhelmed.


Well thats what I created this for, a place to sit and chat about Empaths, Shielding, Advice, Abilities, or just trying to get afew moments of relaxation in. I hope this aids any and all whom may need it.

~Aldrick

Arylon
July 25th, 2003, 09:37 PM
I can understand what you mean...as someone who is highly sensitive and empathic, I find that I need much more time "away from it all" than the average person. I don't normally watch the news or read the newspaper because the negativity surrounding these things is too great for me to handle without distress. There are certain message boards online that I stopped reading because the "vibes" coming from various posters was too upsetting for me to handle. And I sometimes find myself avoiding people just to stop from "absorbing" their negative energy. :geez:
I am curious to see how other people handle this. Aside from becoming a total recluse, how can I avoid taking the world's troubles into my heart? And don't suggest that I simply "not worry about it". Unfortunately, empaths don't function that way! :)

Aldrick
July 25th, 2003, 09:46 PM
Lmao. I know exactly what you mean when you speak about stop going places or reading/watching things. I used to goto the mall all the time when I was in Grade School, I was still empathic but not as progressed now, however still large for my age. I liked the mall but I was always so, well confused when I was in it, a jumble of emotions. Now at 18 and Blane (My Dragon companion) telling me Im much more powerful and have larger variety even for my age I've almost stopped going all together, Im in and out now.

However do you also find sometimes you just kinda need that feeling? Maybe not overwhelming but almost asif you're hooked onto your empathic abilities? I tend to watch Drama shows, Movies, things that deal with Death or Sorrow, Comedies just to feel the emotions. The biggest example I can think of is the show Crossing over, I can't decide if I like it or dislike it but the emotions I get from it, its almost addictive.

Lucidia
July 25th, 2003, 09:49 PM
i can't spend a lot of time in hospitals. just watching a few episodes of ER the other day made me cry hysterically for an hour becasue of flashback memories of being younger before i understood why i felt so uneasy in hospitals.

i don't turn my emapthy off anymore. it makes me feel dead inside when i do, like stripping the color from my vision and taking away most of my senses. the world becomes empty and cold.

Pesha
July 25th, 2003, 09:51 PM
I have been an empath all my life. I found as I got older and had studied a while that I could develope what I call my Wall of Glass incantation. I place a wall of glass around myself so I can see out but emotions etc cannot get in. That is my best way of handleing the situation.

BB
D'S...also known as...

Aldrick
July 25th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Oh Crying, something I never really did as a child but now Im MUCH more emotional. Green Mile almost ruined me, as did.. believe it or not, Dungeons and Dragons. When that door came down killing that beautiful dragon, I started shaking. My Fiance had to hold me to calm me down. Rain of Fire was sad but mostly annoyed me because of their view.

And thats exactly what I meant in my post above, the dead feeling. For one night my Abilities were gone and I felt so alone, it was horrible. Do you find yourself longing to 'absorb' any emotion at some times no matter what it is just to know that you aren't alone?

Aldrick
July 25th, 2003, 09:55 PM
I have been an empath all my life. I found as I got older and had studied a while that I could develope what I call my Wall of Glass incantation. I place a wall of glass around myself so I can see out but emotions etc cannot get in. That is my best way of handleing the situation.

BB
D'S...also known as...

Nice shielding technique, very creative. :fpraiseyo

WillowSageheart
July 25th, 2003, 10:19 PM
I have always been an empath. Everyone thought I was strange growing up... they still do actually. LOL But when it gets too much, I end up hiding for a few days... a few times for a few weeks. I don't answer the phone or the door. I just have to "bunker" down. ( I love the name of this thread!)

I don't think my hubby really understands. I do watch the news, but seldom without tears. And now it looks as if my son is as well. I feel bad for him at his age. It is so very hard to understand the wild feelings - both good and bad - that seem to rage at him.

I must say that it does balance out for me. I don't think anyone without this ability can fully appreciate the realm of human emotions. And when you hit the good... it makes the bad worthwhile.

Aldrick
July 25th, 2003, 10:24 PM
Promiss to stop talking after this for awhile to all those Im annoying, Lol sorry.

And now it looks as if my son is as well. I feel bad for him at his age. It is so very hard to understand the wild feelings - both good and bad - that seem to rage at him.


That is bad, but its also a gift. I find one of the hardest things about being an Empath is not being able to always understand why others cannot feel your emotions or understand them like you do with theirs, at least your son has a loving mother to help him learn and to explain these things. Also he will beable to grow up with someone who more importantly can do things and understand them like he can if not better. Blessings to you and yours, and thank you for the comment on the name.

Blessed Greetings to all of you whom have posted so far and will post, I hope we can all grow and learn together.

Ravens_Tears
July 25th, 2003, 10:24 PM
I have been an empath all my life. I found as I got older and had studied a while that I could develope what I call my Wall of Glass incantation. I place a wall of glass around myself so I can see out but emotions etc cannot get in. That is my best way of handleing the situation.

BB
D'S...also known as...

I agree with aldrick, a very creative shielding technique dragonsinger! I've always envisioned myself surrounded by light. And I make myself go to malls and other places once and awhile just to "toughen up" a bit. It's tiring though...

jcldragon
July 25th, 2003, 10:47 PM
The Key thing for an empath is to develop a strong Center. Daily Meditation & Devotional or Occult Practices create a space of calm & serenity within yourself that cannot be disturbed by external or internal events. Then you can see what is going on around you without being sucked into it. Moreover, when your Center is truly strong, you can impart some of your serenity to those in suffering, & bring them into a state of clarity...

AmbivalentMirage
July 25th, 2003, 11:43 PM
I don't try to "bunker" myself... at all. I just accept the emotions and let them shape me. My empathic "waves" have become like a personality trait. :/ Excess emotions gets turned into energy that I use for things like spells and healing. I'm currently working on mastering my emotional "alchemy".

Scarlettvixen
July 25th, 2003, 11:53 PM
most of the time i manage to shield and sense the emotions but deflect the full force of it away from me
but days where i am down, or in pain my self it can become overwhelming and disorientating
as a nurse i had to learn to shield! but i like dragon singers glass wall so i must try that one too
usually to shield i immerse myself in the technicalities of the job so it sort of bounces off me
i dont know if that makes sense

Killing_Yggdrasil
July 26th, 2003, 12:26 AM
malls are bad, but high schools are 10 times worse. mine, is especially stressed, with an over acheiving Math and Science school (mine) on the top floor. (we're first ranked in the state...yay?) a confused and quite massively charged School of the arts on the ground floor (where i should be) and a middle school on the bottom floor. so much emotion and energy it hurts.

but, i geuss, by going through it for two years, (though i still dislike malls) i've found the storm of emotion can be...almost a cleansing by fire. It isn't fun, but it's tolerable.

I haven't had much luck in shielding mysel, but, i have found that i can set my "level of vision" so to say, above people. so, i still feel wild spikes of emotion, and, i'm in the process of "keying" myself to specific people, but, for the over all general emotional jumble, i can sort of "look over" it. i can still feel it, but if i don't concentrate on it, it doesn't feel nearly as overwhelming.

Pesha
July 26th, 2003, 04:32 AM
My Wall of Glass incantation:

Wall of glass suround me now, I see out but nothing comes in.

Protect from harm and hurt and fear. But let me see what needs to be done.

I envision a glass wall around me, I see everything but it sheilds me when emotions and feelings and pain etc, etc, get to be more than I can handle.

BB
D'S...also known as...

MistOfTheSea86
July 26th, 2003, 05:27 AM
I have tried everything that there is out there and I can't. There is a reaosn for that, I am not meant to. Empaths, at least in my opinion, are meant to exist in the emotional rollarcoasters, if we couldn't we wouldn't have been given this gift. I have just learned to except it as part of who I am. I agree with Lucidia.

Scarlettvixen
July 26th, 2003, 06:01 AM
Empaths, at least in my opinion, are meant to exist in the emotional rollarcoasters, if we couldn't we wouldn't have been given this gift. I have just learned to except it as part of who I am. I agree with Lucidia.
im sorry mist so what does that make those of us who have learnt to block some of the pain and emotions that flood us?

if i didnt learn to block it i would b curled up in a ball unable to function
and as a nurse i cant do that
i feel as an empath i have a duty to treat their pain and dispair not just experience it

Lai
July 26th, 2003, 08:25 AM
Anyone else here try to communicate with emotion, and get confused when others don't react? :lol:

My Empathy is, well, I suppose you could call it strong... so therefore I am not a strong person. It's the one thing that I'm not weak at- feeling emotion.. anything else I just can't manage. I get easily emotional, can't be around crowds at all, and can't go to most public places for more than a few minutes at a time. Being in High School makes it really tough.. last year I completely broke down everyday until they pulled me from school. This year I'm going to a very, very small school so I can stand all of the people (my excuse is that I can't stand the noise and stress, you see). It's hard for me because I really want to be around people, but I just can't unless it's a happy atmosphere. Normally even if I gather myself and go out and, say, go to a party, it takes me days to "recharge" myself, so to speak.

But at the same time, if offered a chance to get rid of my Empathy, I would say no for certain. It's a part of me, and without my Empathy I just wouldn't be myself anymore. I've accepted it, as have those around me. I don't try to shield myself at all, or manipulate it in anyway. But then again, that's because I'm in reality rather scared of it. I don't know what will happen if I try.

I'm also planning to become a veterinarian when I grow up, because that's just my calling. When something's in pain... that's the one situation in which I can "control" it. But after a while I do lose that control... so it'll be a difficult career for me, but I'm determined. I think that my Empathy is more of a gift than a curse, despite what it's done to me.

Sorry for the long-ish post there.. :caffeine:

Lunacie
July 26th, 2003, 08:54 AM
I too spent many years in my "bunker" (hiding at home) before I learned to shield. Unfortunately my shield worked so well that nothing could get in... no hate, no anger, but also no love, no joy. Still it gave me the space to try other ways of handling the overload when I'm around people who are strong emoters. :) Most of them don't even realize they're doing it, eh?

What eventually worked the best for me was sorting out what emotions were truly being directed at me and which were feelings about other people or other situations. Once I was able to stop taking everything as if it were personal then I was better able to deal with the things that were actually my responsibility. When I pick up on other's emotions now and find them rather overwhelming I make a small gesture with my hand. First I hold it up, palm out, in a warding gesture to stop the energy from affecting me, and then I turn my palm towards my solar plexis (my center) to remind me that I'm only responsible for my own emotions and feelings. This is done so quickly that no one ever seems to notice. It's worked so well that I have moved to a big city and I get out and mix with people much more often these days. Although I still need more "bunker" time than most folks I know. :lol:

LadyOak
July 26th, 2003, 08:55 AM
Communicating with emotion should be very simple as far as I am concerned. My husband is an empath too. If we see something sad we fight over the kleenex. :lol:

I grew up on a ranch with cows. I will never forget watching my mother whip this calf trying to get him into the trailer. I looked at the calf's face and he was crying. There were tears running down his face. My mother said that is was from the pain. :bastard: You can't tell me that it wasn't pain plus fear. You can't tell me that calf wasn't crying the way we do. :sadeyes:

I worked at a vet's in my teens, and considered becomming a vet. Giving shots, cleaning wounds, stiches was ok, I could do that. Watching the Vet cut an animal (for good purposes!) was too much for me. Lai, animals need people like you!!! :)

Pesha
July 26th, 2003, 10:17 AM
Being an empath makes me a better nurse. I can recognise alot of pain and anger and frustation in patients and help them by removing it. Sometimes I have to be very careful and remind myself to pass the goop out of me and back into the universe to absorb. Forgeting to do that can really hurt me.

And yes we are given this gift becasue of the emotions that were instilled in us. But all and all it is a good thing.
BB
D'S...also known as...

Aldrick
July 28th, 2003, 10:24 AM
Hey, I appologise for the lack of posting on my behalf however I've just finished moving into my Fiance's (MoonAnu on the boards) so its alittle hectic right now. Thank you all for posting and I shall hopefully have more free time to do the same.

Arylon
July 28th, 2003, 10:35 AM
However do you also find sometimes you just kinda [i}need[/i] that feeling? Maybe not overwhelming but almost asif you're hooked onto your empathic abilities? I tend to watch Drama shows, Movies, things that deal with Death or Sorrow, Comedies just to feel the emotions. The biggest example I can think of is the show Crossing over, I can't decide if I like it or dislike it but the emotions I get from it, its almost addictive.

I DO feel those sorts of things very deeply. It surprises people all the time that I can get so emotionally involved in a work of FICTION, whether it be books, movies, or television. I still cry everytime I see "Beauty and the Beast". I always loved that story... :sniffsnif

But I find it works even better as a balancing agent for me. Sometimes, when I find that I am burdened with the bitterness and sorrow of other people, I find that a lighthearted flick, like a Fred Astaire/Ginger Rogers film helps immensely!

Let the rain pitter patter, it doesn't really matter if skies are gray
As long as I am here with you it's a lovely day... :)

witchsmacked
July 30th, 2003, 11:11 PM
:fpeek:

I thought I'd drop in. I got onto the topic of empaths on another thread, and now reading a lot of these posts, I am glad to see that some of these moments of thinking I'm losing my mind is not just me.

I have what I call "leave me alone" days, when I want nothing to do with anyone or anything. My mom calls them "rage" days because sometimes I just let all my emotion go.

I noticed a lot of people watch movies sometimes to release. For me, it's music.

Aldrick
July 30th, 2003, 11:29 PM
Music? Let me guess, Im probably totally wrong but do you prefer things like Emo and Mostly Instrumental or music from Indie Movies like 'Winter Overture' of 'Mad World'?

witchsmacked
July 30th, 2003, 11:53 PM
Actually, it varies. Sometimes I like classical. Sometimes Celtic. Sometimes Tori Amos. Sometimes Godsmack or Disturbed or Drowning Pool. A lot of the time it depends on the emotion that I need to get out.

Aldrick
July 31st, 2003, 01:11 PM
Hmm, Centering and somewhat anchoring ourself with music, Most of us probably do that without realising it. Interesting concept which works so well. Sorry Im babbling, welcome to the 'Bunker' and hope you can feel 'at home' here, this goes to you all. Whether it be Empathy or just random talk, if you need a place to rest or discuss our empathic gifts feel free to here, there shall be no judgment within this 'bunker', only help and friendship.

witchsmacked
July 31st, 2003, 01:17 PM
Some people find it strange when I say that Godsmack calms me down because their music is so aggressive. I guess what really calms me is Sully Erna's voice. I haven't figured out what it is about his voice that does, but when I have those days when I just want to explode, their cd's are the first ones I reach for.

When I need a comfort movie, though, Practical Magic is usually what I watch.

Thanks for the welcome. :) I'm still exploring, as the concept that all these emotional days I've been having all my life is part of a bigger picture still seems somewhat new. It's good to know there are other people who "get it."

IvyCeltress
July 31st, 2003, 01:34 PM
The worst for me was September 11, as am sure it was for many of yours, since I was picking up on everyone's grief and angers plus my own. Unfortunately I'm also an introvert which I tend to define as getting my strength from within as opposed to getting my strength from others. That weekend Ihad to do a news fast and completely cut myself off from other people in order to rejuvenate.

Amethyst Rose
July 31st, 2003, 03:04 PM
Empathy runs in my family, I only recently learned. I used to block out emotions when I was in crowded places, this was before I learned how to deal with it all. Now, the only time I block anything is when I'm dealing with too much of my own stress, which isn't very often.
I love feeling the energy of a place during certain times...christmas or other celebration days. People tend to look at me funny when I say "can't you feel how happy everyone is?" "or, the 'air' is tense tonight." hehe.
Last night I was walking home from the store, it was about 9:30, and three kids, probably early teens, rode by me on their bike and they radiated the joy of summer vacation, with just an undertone of the knowledge that soon it would be over. It was so refreshing!

LightDancer
July 31st, 2003, 03:36 PM
My Empathy is so strong that i actually take on the emotion into myself and I am taken over by it, I become that emotion. It's especially disconserting when someone I'm with is in an "altered state" (drugs, alcohol) and I find myself feeling their high. I probably should employ some sort of shield when the intensity becomes to much, but i don't want to block out those times when I'm taking in positive energizing emotions, because in those times I feel like my whole body is vibrating, and I love that buzz of positive emotion running through me. It is a relief that there are other people out there that have the same "gift":)

B*B
Jamie

Amethyst Rose
July 31st, 2003, 03:49 PM
Yes, this is partly why I had to learn to control it and to identify my own self beyond the other person's emotions. There are still times when it catches me off guard and I find myself sad or really mad for no reason, and I have to look at myself and push back the emotion that isn't my own. It just takes practice, unless you like being taken over by the emotion, if that's the case then enjoy. :)

Pesha
July 31st, 2003, 04:01 PM
I have to go to the hosptal tomorrow for some pre op tests ...so the Wall of Glass will be going up for sure.

I rememebr 9/11......I was sick for over a week afterwards...so much pain so much horror and sadly I felt the people on the planes the most.........shivers.

BB
D'S...also known as...

Aldrick
July 31st, 2003, 04:19 PM
My Empathy is so strong that i actually take on the emotion into myself and I am taken over by it, I become that emotion. It's especially disconserting when someone I'm with is in an "altered state" (drugs, alcohol) and I find myself feeling their high.

Ii know exactly what you mean by this, My brother has one of those 'greater then thou' additudes and when he moved in for the summer (and almost a year longer) his additude left a 'stain' within me which still takes its effect upon me at times. Blessings to you Dragonslinger, I hope that the hospital visit isn't because you're injured but if the visit is for you my blessings and prayers go with you.

I'm Canadian but Sept 11th had the same effect on me, it had me almost shaking from the emotions, I lived in Toronto right accross the river from NeyYork and many victems were brought to hospitals near my house, well my Empathy borders telepathy and, I had many sleepless nights.

I remember feeling that everything in the world was negative, just that some were better then others yet they were all still negative. I know better now, I still dont like thinking about it all, however while trying to not think about it I was given a Hat from my brothers father (a cop) the hat was bought at the Firemens community (or something) it says:
'For our Brothers and Sisters'
9/11/01
'Least We Forget'

Lunacie
July 31st, 2003, 04:22 PM
re: 9-11. For some reason I feel things more strongly coming at me from the south, like Oklahoma or Texas. When David Koresh offed all his followers and then the building was torched in Waco I was one big bundle of nerves. And the morning that the Federal Building in OK City was bombed I was up hours before, watching the tv and waiting for news. After 9-11 I think I was in some kind of shock and couldn't feel it all. I have a horrible fear of heights and of fire, they are practically paralyzing for me. And those two fears were combined very powerfully in the Twin Towers so I think I automatically shielded myself from thinking about it too much or from feeling all the death from falling and fire. **shudder** Still can't think about it.

LightDancer
July 31st, 2003, 05:21 PM
Yes, this is partly why I had to learn to control it and to identify my own self beyond the other person's emotions. There are still times when it catches me off guard and I find myself sad or really mad for no reason, and I have to look at myself and push back the emotion that isn't my own. It just takes practice, unless you like being taken over by the emotion, if that's the case then enjoy. :)

I don't enjoy every emotion, being angry or sad for no reason at all really stinks....but i do enjoy the happy energizing emotions...so maybe a temporary wall will do me;)

B*B
Jamie

Fairywolf
July 31st, 2003, 05:48 PM
I don't know how this fits in here but this is my story and anyone may tell me what they think it is. :lol:

I am 25 years old and I haven't felt much of anything but anger in the last 15 years or so. I can't explain it. Don't get me wrong I have had some days where I was in a good mood but that doesn't happen very often. I ususally feel kind of blah. For lack of a better word. But anger and dislike are Major emotions I feel. Those are on a daily bases and I can't ususally stop them. I have learned to restrain my emotions when dealing with them, otherwise there would be alot of people hurting with me. I really do not like the feeling of being alone in me. I want to be happy and sad and anything else I am tired of being mad. :lol: I feel kinda lost inside, like there is a stranger inside of me. It is almost like I died and a very angry person took over my body.

Aldrick
August 1st, 2003, 03:27 PM
The story itself saddens me to hear it, and the memories also make me cold. I appolgize for the anger you feel and pray that you can release yourself of it. Don't ever allow the emotion to conrtoll you, you can feed off it and use it, manipulate it but never get yourself into the habbit of allowing it to manipulate you. Willpower is a big aspect in this.

Has anything happened to you? I dont mean to pry however Iim wondering, is there an anniversary type of date comming up? or has one just passed?

Oscen Occultus
August 1st, 2003, 04:32 PM
I have to be honest... I hate discussing my gift. I don't feel like explaining why, but I do... However, I felt the need to respond here.

I don't block out emotions. I don't go into a "bunker". I willingly allow the emotions of others to influence me. Why? It's a very deep way to connect to a person. When you allow your emotions to trail theirs, you latch onto the essence of who they are. Yes, it can be dangerous... but soap is dangerous if you're not careful. :P In general, I don't try to fight my gift or "master" it. I simply live with it and use it as I am destined to. *shrugs*

My own personal emotions are very much "locked up". I control them carefully, but I do not deny them. I believe in experiencing the full range of every human emotion. Most other empaths and/or telepaths have trouble getting readings on me because of this. They find that things swirl in such confusing patterns inside of me that finding my own true thoughts or emotions is nearly impossible for an outsider.

Arylon
August 1st, 2003, 05:44 PM
One of the most annoying things about being an empath is that I can never "win" an argument. I'm stubborn and would never budge on something important, but I can so vividly see the other person's point of view, that I start to begin thinking that MAYBE they are right and I am wrong! Then I just start laughing because I realize how goofy I'm acting. No knock-down, drag-out fights for me...
Incidently, is anyone else here an INFP according to the Meyers-Briggs test? *watches as EVERYONE raises their hands* :lol:

Scarlettvixen
August 1st, 2003, 05:48 PM
ok i will bite
whats the meyers-briggs test and whats an INFP?

how were u tested?
and can u do it online?

Pesha
August 1st, 2003, 05:53 PM
One good thing I find in being an empath is that people can never lie to me. I know when they are being truthful and when they are not. What is bad I suppose is that i can be out and about and cry at the drop of a hat if i get too close to sad people.....then it is the Wall of Glass time.

BB
D'S...also known as...

Oscen Occultus
August 1st, 2003, 07:13 PM
The Meyers-Briggs is an aptitude/personality test, I believe. :)

Scarlettvixen
August 1st, 2003, 09:46 PM
ahh ok thanks
i will have a dig around later and a look for it

Fairywolf
August 1st, 2003, 10:32 PM
The story itself saddens me to hear it, and the memories also make me cold. I appolgize for the anger you feel and pray that you can release yourself of it. Don't ever allow the emotion to conrtoll you, you can feed off it and use it, manipulate it but never get yourself into the habbit of allowing it to manipulate you. Willpower is a big aspect in this.

Has anything happened to you? I dont mean to pry however Iim wondering, is there an anniversary type of date comming up? or has one just passed?


To make a long story short ( my life in a nutshell) I was molested by my uncle from 2-7 grade and I was raped twice and my father is a violent alcoholic. I grew up with two brothers who for the most part are wonderful but boys will be boys. I practially raised them. My mom was working 2 jobs and my dad is worthless. So.... I learned to cook at the age of 6 and it has been me to taking almost all the whippings for a long time.:lol: I had to protect them and my mother. Then I got with a abusive boy friend and well that is explanitory. Then I moved to Nebraska from Va and thought I had met a wonderful man well I was wrong and now I am going threw a divorce and taking care of my mother who has two forms of cancer. So here I am 25 living at home once more. No job few friends. what else can I say. thats my life and I am really proud of the person I have turned out to be. Well except for the anger part!! :lol:

Xander67
August 1st, 2003, 10:38 PM
The Meyers-Briggs is an aptitude/personality test, I believe. :)

yep, i had to take a similar one when i was applying for my grant for school

Aldrick
August 14th, 2003, 06:05 PM
Anyone here find that they 'absorb' the emotions and traits of those close to them/around them rather then just 'feel' the emmotions/traits/thoughts? Especially concerning loved ones.

indigo rain
August 17th, 2003, 06:12 AM
i've often wondered if i'm an empath. i get nervous for no reason when i'm around a large group of people, i tend to take on the moods of other people, which is a bad thing when you're trying to comfort someone who's feeling bad and they just make you feel bad yourself. when i'm alone at work i work at a reasonable pace, but when someone else is with me, i tend to work faster, have more energy. i don't know if i'm actually feeding off their energy or just subconciously trying to impress them. i get physically sick at parties, concerts, etc... and i'm very good at reading most people. comments, thoughts?

Aldrick
August 17th, 2003, 12:25 PM
The only comment I have is that no one can truely say if you are empathic or not, that final answer comes from within. However we can offer some advice and possibly guaidance which is why I created this thread. I suggest reading over questions that another person or myself has asked the group, answering the questions, and these answers dont need to be typed for us but for yourself, and if you feel comfortable by all means please do share them. You feel like a gifted person, just cautious about this particular aspect, and thats not by any means a bad thing.

indigo rain
August 17th, 2003, 12:37 PM
any good sites about empaths, what they feel and commonly experience, and how to develop or control this ability? just looking for more info before i come out and say, "i'm an empath."

Aldrick
August 17th, 2003, 12:53 PM
If you have livejournal there are plenty of communities about Empaths.

http://www.geocities.com/christabelle67/TheUniversalEmpathIndex1.html

There's a pretty good link, the Report on it is good, they also have a survey and other Empathic links. I found this site to be quite helpful. You might also want to check the Dragon thread or a Draconic Magick site, I found through my quest to find similarities between us all that many people who're Therianthrope's or 'Kin (Otherkin) aswell as many people who find their paths along Draconic Magick are Empaths. I shall continue to search for more links for you.

themessenger
August 17th, 2003, 01:25 PM
Hey everybody, I'm new to this place and i stumbled into the Empathic Bunker, and boy, am I glad! lol :fpraiseyo I don't really have to many problems with tears and such, because i've always been able to sheild myself pretty well. But when people don't understand what i feel, or how i feel it, it KILLS me inside.
but for all that being Empathic is, I consider it much more a gift than a burden, I'm quite grateful of it.

Anyways, I've been studying paganism since i was 12, ( im 18, now) but i just came out of the proverbial Broomcloset, and i'm still learning, so heads up!


Blessin's

Aldrick
August 17th, 2003, 01:33 PM
Welcome to the Empathic Bunker. Blessed Greetings to you and I hope you not only get comfortable here but that you can also feel at home. If you have any questions or comments at all feel free to post in here.

Brenners
August 17th, 2003, 04:34 PM
Well I'm glad to know I'm not alone!

Things I like about being an empath.

I know exactly what people are feeling toward me, and if it is a positive emotion (hopefully) that really makes me feel good about myself. I know if I've given someone a good impression, but the down side is I also know if I'm totally annoying someone. :lol: I like that I can read people, I can tell them things about themself that even they aren't aware of. I think by doing this I can help bring clarity to their lives and it's also a healthy reminder to myself, how all of us are the same, we fear the same things, we celebrate the same things. It's empowering to me, when I can empower others based on what I can feel (read) as an empath.

Things I don't like about being an empath.

It's getting stronger as I get older, and I'm beginning to absorb the emotions which is okay when they're happy go lucky, but horrible if they're just rotten all around. Sometimes I'm blocking out the feelings in large crowds without even knowing it, but if I even stop to think about it for a split second, everything comes flooding into me like a wave. I have to master some sort of concious effort at shielding, I don't pretend to be strong enough to deal with this thing, and I sometimes fear it'll make me very ill one day. The body, mind, soul connection is very important to me, and I don't want to bog down my body with negativity. I really like the glass shiel visualization. Another thing I don't like about being an empath is that, I don't always want to know what someone close to me is feeling. I'm not interested in knowing when I'm bothering someone with my presence, I take those things to heart although I know the person may just be having a bad day totally unrelated to their opinion of me. For instance, I've learned that my future sister-in-law is very critical of other people, I hate feeling her judgements towards others (snobbery) because it makes me feel self concious in return. Yuck! I take everything so personally, I hate that!

In regards to 9/11 I had three prophetic dreams about it, before knowing what they actually meant. Once every month leading up to the attacks, in June, July, and August, I had very vivid, very graphic dreams of planes crashing to the ground. In my dream I'm walking around the wreckage, there are bodies and body parts everywhere, I mean, the scene was just total carnage. Even in my dream I'm in a state of shock, disbelief, sadness, fear. All of a sudden I see the souls of these people walking toward me, crying, scared, they're trying to touch me and ask me why and what happened. I remember running from them because I didn't know what to say, I couldn't understand why so many of them had died so brutually.

These dreams were so bad, and so frightening for me, that I actually felt compelled enough to talk to a therapist about them. I wanted to know what they meant, was I going to keep having this horrible nightmare once a month for the rest of my life?! Then on that morning of 9/11, actually it was noon, I was still sleeping, I heard running and my fiance dashed into the bedroom. He was on the phone, my future father-in-law had called to tell him to turn on the television. I was only half awake, and when I sat up in bed to see the commotion, and I saw what was happening, I knew that instant that my nightmare had come true.

:(

The rest of that day, I was in a dream state. I think I still have a hard time believing, it ever really happened.

themessenger
August 17th, 2003, 08:53 PM
Oh, Brenners! Thats awful! I feel for you, what a frightening experience.
lol, while reading your post, i guess i caught a wave o' that empathic energy when my guard was down, and all i can say is pass me the kleanex. i wish i had some shielding tips for you, but i've had a guard up for so long i don't know how it got there! :eyebro:

Anyways, much love and much strength,
themessenger

Chrystiona
August 21st, 2003, 02:37 AM
WOW. I am new here - :RuNew: AND I LOVE THIS THREAD !
Just because it is a real eye opener. I had NO idea - absolutely NO IDEA that there were so many people out there like me ! (well - like me in the overwhelming feelings department)
I have read quite a few of the posts - I have never met ANYONE that can't read the newspaper - (like myself) it's great to know that I am not just hyper-sensitive crazy ! lol.

I cry so often now. And it has been getting worse since I was about 16 or 17. I've never really tried to "shield" myself except I purposely don't read the sad stories in the papers/news etc. any suggestions for out in public ? I get affected whenever I see couples fighting - or animals hurt - or road rage people in their cars - AH. that's the worst !

I can't say that I would ever want to give up the ability to read people and make bang-on first impressions though - so I guess I can deal with the sad feelings. Another TERRIBLE issue is when you just know how others are responding to you. Most of the time its positive and that's great - but I find that there are some people that I can just say - they didn't like me. Or they were being so phony and they didn't mean it.
I would gladly give that up to be ignorant and blissful.

okay. another question -

I often cry for joy. If the sun is shining and i see people happy and there's a good tune on the radio -
or I see people in love. I cry like a baby. not sobbing, but just a tear - and I get that I'm so happy I need to cry feeling.

Am I alone here or is that pretty normal too ?
thanks -
any replies would be appreciated. :)
xoxo

Arylon
August 21st, 2003, 03:25 PM
okay. another question -

I often cry for joy. If the sun is shining and i see people happy and there's a good tune on the radio -
or I see people in love. I cry like a baby. not sobbing, but just a tear - and I get that I'm so happy I need to cry feeling.

Am I alone here or is that pretty normal too ?
thanks -
any replies would be appreciated. :)
xoxo

I often cry out of joy or sweet nostalgia as well. It just seems to be my way of releasing any strong emotion, kind of like a pressure valve! Maybe that's why I rarely get angry, and am more prone to being sad or upset by a situation. Some people think that I simply like to sulk, but crying seems to be the EASIEST way to make myself feel better! :wah:

Chrystiona
August 21st, 2003, 03:52 PM
lol. i understznd that. crying makes me feel SO much better !!! lol. *smile* thanks for replying !

I also sometimes get this weird shudder thing - a welling emotion and those almost tears - when people are telling me something - a story or something - and I know that they are exaggerating, or that they feel worse about it then they are making it out to be, or - hmmm, its so hard to pin point what the exact reason is that it comes. so strange.

Thank again all for sharing ! I feel better just knowing that this is a common way to feel. ;)

xoxo

MysticMama
September 5th, 2003, 06:10 AM
Yes - I'm an empath and a healer, both since childhood. The two combined can create a precarious state if I'm not grounded and centered. I have a couple of ways of shielding myself.

1) I picture myself surrounded by a beautiful bubble, irridescent and light. Like a cell membrane, it's semi-permeable, so I *choose* what comes in and what goes out. I find this to be empowering and is my typical state of being.

2) I use the image of a blue lasso made of light, and mentally swing it around my head, to the ground and back up again...which clears everything that was hangin on and resurrects the boundaries afterward. Very cleansing (I was gifted with this technique after an auric cleansing).

3) I cast the rings with the following incantation:
Around myself and mine I cast the rings.
The rings pass not.

The rings pass not of water.
The rings pass not of fire.
The rings pass not of air.
The rings pass not of earth.

May that which comes from me, may that which comes to me, may it always be the Creator's own power: love, light, truth, wisdom and wholeness, which is wellness.

In my healing practice I pick up on things and often have images that come to mind out of nowhere...and ususally my client expresses some sort of release, discomfort or other affirmation that I'm on to something. Sometimes I can mentally resurrect my shield if I notice it's weakening, other times I need to break physical contact and "flick" the energy elsewhere.

I also have visceral responses to music, stories and movies. In fact, I can't read mysteries or watch some drama because it stays with me for days or weeks. I have nightmares, I carry the weight of it around, it impacts my sleep and diet...icky! That being said - I selectively expose myself to some things because I think that our collective consciousness is strengthened by being a compassionate witness to the pain pain of others. Things like the news, or documentaries or drama - The Pianist for example (Oh my, what a difficult movie to watch, I had to watch it twice though).

I have also found tremendous empowerment from the study of Nonviolent (aka Compassionate) Communication. The heart of it is empathy, and I've been strengthened by the consciousness of BEING empathy (which for an empath is just normal) and BEING mindful of it (which comes with experience and practice). You can read more about it at www.cnvc.org In fact, my Yahoo ID is empathic_heart if ya wanna look me up and chat sometime. ;)

Okay, enough ramblings from a 4am insomniac. Ugh!

Shadowflame
September 5th, 2003, 08:11 AM
I myself am a 'sorta empath'. I sometimes get very strong feelings and have days when I don't want to do anything or talk to anyone, but most of the time I'm just me.

Aldrick
September 5th, 2003, 02:09 PM
Blessed Greetings to all new at the 'Bunker' I hope you can feel comfortable and at home here, sadly the Bunker has gone rather quiet lately but then again sometimes all most of us need is peace and quiet.
Mystic, those combinations can be quite powerful, and the methods you use are interesting, to tell you the truth the bubble makes me think of Jean Grey's Empathic Shell. Lol, sorry I love X-Men..

Aldrick
September 8th, 2003, 01:04 AM
I just found two poems I wrote long ago when I first got hit with a really powerful wave of emotions.

These voices I hear
Ttheir hateful whispers surround
I rock and I scratch
Scratching at my arms
I just wish their crys would stop
I just wish the pain away
Scratching at my arms
The red marks remain, as do the emotions
Deep within, hidden benieth.
I wish their yelling would stop,
So here I sit,
Rocking..


Also

Inside I'm weeping
Yet outside I smile
I seem to be happy
to everyone else
Why bother others with my problems and doubts
I grow tired from these hidden tears
I miss the true smiles of childhood
I hide the tears and offer a Smile
No-One around me knows,
I'm crying all the while.

Aidron
September 8th, 2003, 03:39 AM
It is my firm belief that our genetic code denotes which psyhic techniques come more easily to us than others. My mother was extremely empathic and telepathic, so much so that it caused her health problems for years until she shut it off entirely and lost it.

I believe I inherited whatever it is that causes one to be sensitive to thought and emotional vibrations, though depending on the person I am more empathically inclined or telepathically inclined. I have met a few people in my life that I could not sense anything from, especially when my emotions are involved, such as my ex boyfriend and it frightens me. I do not like the sensation of not picking up anything from someone.

I never cry unless something truly traumatic has happened, which is very rare. Often, however, a tear or two will roll down my cheek for no apparent reason, which I believe is my body's way of naturally releasing the negative emotions and thoughts I've absorbed before they turn into something more harmful.

The most intense periods are where someone would be very distressed, come within a few feet of me and my mind would feel as though it had been set aflame. I am hesitant to call it a migraine as I am not one to suffer from headaches so I have no clue what a migraine feels like I'm quite sure, but when this happens I usually have to seperate myself from the person, and meditate (which I've learned to do even while walking with my eyes open), otherwise the pain eventually fades and manifests itself as rather volitile outbursts, which can last anywhere from a few minutes to a week. This tends to go against most things I have read or learned about telepathy and empathy, in that distance is not a factor. I agree, it often isn't as I've been able to quite easily attune myself to people who are are a considerable distance away, but there still are occassions when being phsyically close to me will make the link more intense, which in my opinion is nothing more than a lack of emotional and thought traffic. In other words, there is less chance that the emotions or thoughts will be detoured, get lost along the way, and have a cleaner, shorter path to take to get to the reciever, which is me in this case.

The shielding aspect seemed to come more naturally to me than my mother has described for her. When situations become too much I simply imagine an inpenetrable white fog forming counter clockwise within my mind. Unintentionally, however, I have become one of those people who is forever being told that I cannot be read. This has me forever being asked how I am feeling or others assuming that I feel one way when it could not be further from the truth. For example, I once liked a guy for over two years and vise versa, though he never knew it. While I knew how he felt, I refused to act on it. When I finally did tell him after I had moved on, he was infuriated at me and we've never really had anything polite to say to one another since.

My mother, despite these things coming very easily to her, should be given a lot of the credit for this. As a child we were forever playing mind games, such as the number one, where you imagine a number between 1 - 10 and the other person guesses. We would do this everywhere, waiting for food in a restaurant, in the car, waiting in a doctor's office while bored to pieces. I'd scoff at the idea that this did not help dramatically.

Over the years as I've practiced meditations to open my third eye it took me some time to be able to endure the meditations. For the longest whenever I opened my third eye in meditation I would a sensation of immense pressure almost fiery-like, and would easily come close to passing out if I did many times. That will still happen once in awhile, but I think it is nothing more than heightened sensitivity on my part that I have to learn to deal with better.

I've had some amazing encounters with empathy and telepathy, such as when I met this one guy I would essentially carry on the conversation for both of us. I could literally tell him entire sentences he was thinking. All he would have to do is think them and I would instantly know them. These seem to happen quite frequently with me when it comes to people I have never met or known. With those I am extremely close to, it can cause me to manifest actual physical symptoms. A best friend of mine and I both got the cartilage in our left ears pierced, and whenever one of ours' hurt (and they were sore for a long time) the others would instantly intensify.

Still, I've found the aforementioned fog technique to come in quite useful and so far not fail me except in cases where I was so distraught that I simply could not focus enough due to mundane distractions or my own lack of succumbing to whatever I was sensing.

Personally I believe my misanthropic inclinations stem from this whole situation of mine. I can't say I have caught every lie that has been put past me (I doubt anyone is that great) cause who is going to fess up to every lie? No one. Still, I do catch them quite often and it really sickens me to see how frequently people try to decieve one another. I also pick up on all their nasty emotions and thoughts, and will often see people for who they really are, which in and of itself is the very reason why I do not like them one bit. :lol:

PsiloMagick
September 12th, 2003, 04:29 PM
I've been through much emotional damage from my daughters mother, and now some of my "circle time" goes to trying to protect my energies from her. One or two words and I seriously could hang her. People with a lack of empathy have a lack of spirit. Straight up...

~Cyberfest in Frisco in a week~
:) Chad

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 25th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Until Last night I thought there was something seriously wrong with me emotionally. We were out and talking about movies that I couldn't watch. Private Ryan, and anything like that. Green Mile almost killed me. I cry over movies, music, sunsets, anything along this line. Danu looked at me and said "It's because you're an empath." It hit me like a runaway train. I am almost 50 years old and have many life experiences, but this stopped my clock. I felt like a prime candidate for a rubber room for so long. Now I know there are other weirdos I can relate to! HELP!

witchsmacked
October 25th, 2003, 10:59 PM
These past two months have been nothing but chaos for me. I am aching so much from all the craziness and the emotions running rampant. I'm trying to close everything down so I can't feel anything for a while, but it's so hard when I have school and work and I'm not used to be so "wide open" as I have been recently.

It's been very wearing on me. I'm mentally and physically exhausted. As I've been told many times, I worry so much about everyone else, and try to take everyone else's pain, I don't leave time for my own. Or give my own to anyone. It builds up and then I explode, or break down into a mass of hysterics. Or anger.

My head feels like it's going to blow itself to pieces--it's throbbing that much from everything and everyone around me.

Lunacie
October 25th, 2003, 11:46 PM
Hey Hawk, welcome to the rubber room. There have been a lot of helpful suggestions throughout this thread. If you have a specific question that hasn't already been addressed, fire away, eh?

Lunacie
October 25th, 2003, 11:52 PM
Hello Witchsmaked. I went through a period that sounds a lot like what you're describing. What I did was put up a mongo shield for awhile which was keeping out more than I intended it to. But it did give me the space and peace to figure out to fine tune it to keep certain things at a distance while allowing others to affect me. The way I began was to envision a barrier-shield that surrounded me completely, and every time I would remember about it I would add a bit of power to it again. In time it became second-nature for me to have and use a shield. Something else that helps is limiting the amount of time you spend in certain company or doing certain things that affect you the most. In time you will learn what you can handle and how to handle it. Good luck.

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 26th, 2003, 08:07 AM
Hey Hawk, welcome to the rubber room. There have been a lot of helpful suggestions throughout this thread. If you have a specific question that hasn't already been addressed, fire away, eh?


Hi Liunacie. This is a little embarassing to ask, but what the hell. Do you hear voices? Sometimes when it's real quiet it's like a radio playing. Also, can this be tuned to open to just one person at a time? And finally, what could this gift possibly be used for? It seems everyone has unidentifiable premonitions that can't be deciphered until after the fact.

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 27th, 2003, 06:38 AM
bump

Lunacie
October 27th, 2003, 02:29 PM
Hi Liunacie. This is a little embarassing to ask, but what the hell. Do you hear voices? Sometimes when it's real quiet it's like a radio playing. Also, can this be tuned to open to just one person at a time? And finally, what could this gift possibly be used for? It seems everyone has unidentifiable premonitions that can't be deciphered until after the fact.Hey Hawk, sorry I didn't see this sooner, busy weekend around here. Sure I've heard voices at times. Usually I can't tell what they're saying and that is soooo frustrating. Sometimes I've heard someone say my name quite clearly when I'm alone in the house. And I've heard music too, but it never seems to be any song that I recognize.

Even more embarassing to say, I also "taste" things. And most of the time I can't tell what I'm tasting. I sit and try to figure out what it is, 'cause maybe it's something I'm having a craving for, but I usually can't figure this one out either.

I think this might just be part of the psychic perceptions package (on sale now at amazon :lol: ) Or it may be our intuition trying to tell us something we're not paying attention to. Something that makes me go hmmm?

Can it be tuned to just one person at a time? I think so. I think that's what I'm doing when I do a tarot or rune reading for someone while there are others around. Of course, using the tools may help me to focus on just one "voice".

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 27th, 2003, 06:55 PM
Hi Lunacie, Danu says she has tasted things also. Haven't had that happen yet, that I know of. Guess I need to learn how to use the tools now. The blocking thing works well. I don't block everything, that would make me feel too empty, but am blocking the negative and am in a much better mood now. Feels pretty good to finally understand! I wasn't kidding about feeling like a rubber room candidate, talk about mood swings!!!!!!!!

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 28th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Lunacie,
I have been picking up things from my business partner that aren't too good. He has always been lazy and disinterested and now it seems he wants out. May turn out for the best though.

GypsyRaven
October 29th, 2003, 12:01 AM
I have been an empath all my life too. I've learned to control my gift instead of my gift controling me. When I was younger, I was always confused. I couldn't focus on anything. I never really knew what I was feeling, because I was feeling everything. To control it, I use a combination of meditation, yoga, mantras, and a couple of incantations. It took years, and a couple of nervous breakdowns, to master. Also, I have found that the older I have gotten the less I need to control it. It has become easier every day to feel others' emotions, but not be overwhelmed by them. The main thing is to learn as much as you can and not succome to the urge to stay away from people. Just like you can't start out running 15 miles a day, you can't just jump into the middle of Time Square at rush hour. Start small and build up. Eventually you won't be overpowered by your power. By the way, I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all, but I feel like I have something to share. Just one more thing. It really helps to have people around you that understand what is going on with you. I know that I have channeled someone else's emotions (that were very negative by the way) and redirected them towards my fiance. He's an empath too, though. He's very understanding. I'm a little afraid for our future children. Anyway, I hope that I helped just a little.

Blessed be.

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 29th, 2003, 07:36 AM
Hi Gypsy,
All input helps. If I had known I was an empath at an early age it may have made a difference.

Chrystiona
October 29th, 2003, 09:04 PM
when i was young i clearly remember hearing voices - like muffled voices. I could never understand what they were saying - kind of like voices and static and whispers all at once. it never really bothered me now. i rarely hear them as an adult though. interesting.

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 29th, 2003, 10:23 PM
when i was young i clearly remember hearing voices - like muffled voices. I could never understand what they were saying - kind of like voices and static and whispers all at once. it never really bothered me now. i rarely hear them as an adult though. interesting.
Maybe you did what I did , blocked them out. WARNING: they come back stronger.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 1st, 2003, 11:53 AM
bump

Xeen
November 1st, 2003, 06:30 PM
My roommie is an uber empath. I seem to be the only person he's found that he can be around for any legnth of time without getting fubar. I've found that rather interesting. He uses a white light technique, and when I told him just a few minutes ago "Hey, there's alot of empaths out there. Seems like half the population of Mystic Wicks are empaths." He was quite suprised to hear that.

I don't think I'm an empath, but I do get overwhelmed in small rooms with lots of people these days. I had to go to a meeting with someone 'cause I don't drive, she takes me places, so I had to go to a couple meetings with her (whoops, that's one messed up sentense, but you get my point).

50+ people shoved into a room not too much bigger than a garage. I got dizzy and a bit sickly. There was no chairs to sit on, so I just crouched on the floor. It passed after 10 or so minutes, so I got up, but then it started hitting again.

Several weeks back I had had some sort of attack. I don't know how to explain what it felt like, but my roomie insisted it was an empath attack. I still don't know what it was. I won't rule out empath, but I want to keep my options open and hope it doesn't happen again... though I have had a couple mini sessions since then.

Anyway, those are my thoughts. I will try to point my roomie to this thread. He might be interested in reading what you've got to say.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 1st, 2003, 08:41 PM
anyjelah,
Until a couple of weeks ago, I didn't know I was an empath. In a room like the one you're describing. I would be broke out in sweat and feeling completely trapped. Read the first part of this thread about sheilding yourself. It helps.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 2nd, 2003, 10:36 PM
Dear Goddess,

Please let me enter Energy Requests one time without feeling a broken heart.

Xeen
November 3rd, 2003, 02:05 PM
I grew up on a ranch with cows. I will never forget watching my mother whip this calf trying to get him into the trailer. I looked at the calf's face and he was crying. There were tears running down his face. My mother said that is was from the pain. :bastard: You can't tell me that it wasn't pain plus fear. You can't tell me that calf wasn't crying the way we do. :sadeyes:


I just about lost it there with that one. I can't stand seeing animals hurt. One time not too many months ago my ex and I were driving at night on a windy country road. We ended uo just barely hitting a deer. He glanced off the side of our ar, on MY side of course. It was like slow motion, I saw his face all too clearly. He was scared beyond reasoning. And he screamed. I will never forget what that sounded like. *twitch* That had me messed up for quite awhile.

Okay, maybe I AM a bit empathic.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 3rd, 2003, 05:50 PM
Okay, maybe I AM a bit empathic.

It has it's drawbacks.

Kalika
November 3rd, 2003, 08:01 PM
Hmm... I used to need to get away from people, but I've learned to "block" alot of it... except for really really strong emotions or pain.

I agree though... it is very difficult for me to spend much time in hospitals, but I'll need to get used to it once I get into med school I guess...


Neat idea for a thread. :)

Blessed Be.

ajna
November 3rd, 2003, 10:43 PM
I first realized I was empathic when I was 12 years old. I didn't know what it was called but I loved giving "advice" (by advice I mean I would listen to the person and give them a hug, after the hug they would feel much better and I would leave and start crying). Eventually I grew up (high school age), moved, and began to have problems of my own. It was terrible. I moved to this new place where no one knew me, no one knew what I was (in the school I had moved from, I had one support that understood all of this and told me I was empathic). I am naturally attracted to incomplete people and this place was no exception. I had not found a single person who had anything 'together'. I became suicidal, attempted once, and was nearly committed. I was diagnosed with depression. The psychiatrist I was going to soon realized his mistake, I was too nice and cheerful (once I had been removed from those people) for a depressed person so he diagnosed me with bipolar disorder, which I'm sure is a common thing for empaths who don't know how to control their 'gift'.
I soon met a boy and we began dating. He believed in more spiritual matters and saw that I was unusually sensitive and was taking on other people's scars. The medicine had been supressing my personality, so he told me I was not bipolar and said that I needed to get off the medicine. I got off the medicine and did just fine. I turned apathetic as soon as I could. I tried to be as detached as possible, though I am a very passionate person by nature, and as withdrawn as possible. Eventually I thought I had lost it completely. It hurt actually. I felt I had lost something. I was irritable, sleepy all the time, clingy, and confused (I am still alot of that). The problem was, that once that boy had told me to get off the medicine I had pushed a part of me into him (that is hard to explain) and had been taking his emotions for the past year and a half. He is unhappy and apathetic and I am hurting for him. I spent the weekend away from him and was able to see myself, the first glimmer of myself in the past 2 years, and I liked the person I had become. It is difficult to stay this way though.
I have realized that being an empath is a large part of who I am and why I have become what I am and I don't wish to lose it for just that reason. There has got to be a way to control it though. I am now at a university full of tens of thousands of people and I am scatterbrained and starting to fall apart because of my lack of control. I have been able to block out my dreams and flash(tos?), which also makes me feel as if I am missing something, but yeah. This empathy has hurt me in so many ways that I believe only me and my fiance will ever know and he not to the extent I do. If there is any way to hone or control it please share with me your methods. It is wonderful to know there are others who may be able to help.

ajna
November 3rd, 2003, 10:47 PM
I'm sorry my post was so long, I felt as if I had to get it all out now that someone must understand me. I've never had a problem with reading and hurting for someone, or the news necessarily, but this thread stopped me on the first page. Yes, perhaps I should stop typing so much. Wonderful idea for a topic though.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 3rd, 2003, 11:17 PM
I'm sorry my post was so long, I felt as if I had to get it all out now that someone must understand me. I've never had a problem with reading and hurting for someone, or the news necessarily, but this thread stopped me on the first page. Yes, perhaps I should stop typing so much. Wonderful idea for a topic though.

This is a place for expressing your feelings on this. We who are new need to talk to each other and listen to advice from more experienced empaths. Since reading this thread I have learned to block enough to enjoy people again, unless the emotion goes into overload. That's why I have to stay out of energy requests most of the time.

Kalika
November 4th, 2003, 12:39 PM
This is a place for expressing your feelings on this. We who are new need to talk to each other and listen to advice from more experienced empaths. Since reading this thread I have learned to block enough to enjoy people again, unless the emotion goes into overload. That's why I have to stay out of energy requests most of the time.

I'm very glad to hear it!!! (That you can be around - and happy around- people I mean)

This gave me the idea to add Empath related articles to my website... since it may be helpful (hopefully). So... when I get it up, I'll let ya'll know. And if anyone has techniques that work well for them at blocking others' emotions and pain, please PM me and I will post them on the site as well. :)

Its very interesting to hear that others started at such a young age as well... I have been empathetic for as long as I can remember, but I thought maybe I was just odd... (well, I am, but that's beside the point!!)

Blessed Be.

Xeen
November 4th, 2003, 03:52 PM
So I was laying in bed last night thinking about the whole empath thing. I was thinking about how it works, blocking and what not.

My question is, if it's possible, how do you unblock, or bring the energy that you want to block in? I'm asking just because I like knowing how things work.

Anybody have any input?

Kalika
November 4th, 2003, 06:09 PM
Aynjelah-

I think meditation would work, if you want to draw a specific persons energy to you.

Blessed Be.

ajna
November 4th, 2003, 09:39 PM
I don't know if any other have experienced this, but after trying to block people for so many years, I don't wish to anymore. I want something more like the way hearing works. I want to be able to feel other people randomly, as I'm walking by (like I do when I am overhearing them) or standing in an elevator with them, but I would also like to be able to pick out one person and be able to ignore all others. It just seems to me as if it has been all or nothing thus far and I don't want that anymore.
I'm also going to try that meditation idea to strengthen it as well.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 6th, 2003, 03:13 AM
I HAVE to block. Otherwise my emotions are all tumbled up and I lose the ability to discern my emotions and those of others.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 12th, 2003, 10:57 PM
bump

Kalika
November 16th, 2003, 01:37 PM
*looks around* Hello? Anyone out there??

Lunacie
November 16th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Hi, I tried blocking everything and felt totally shut off from the rest of the world, the good as well as the bad. Eventually I learned to set my shield to have filters that allow certain things in, and sometimes just a little bit of other things. Helps me keep from feeling overwhelmed. Or think of it as volume control, set your shield to allow only a certain volume and no louder. Once you get the knack it's not so hard to adjust. The hard part for me was setting my boundaries, learning that just because someone else was having a bad day and broadcasting their anger and frustration that I didn't have to feel it as well. I'm not the one having the bad day, eh? I hope some of my thoughts are helpful to the folks who are just now learning to deal with this "gift".

Kalika
November 16th, 2003, 05:21 PM
Good visualization.

I use a brick wall. :) Or a brick house, depending on my creativity at the moment.

Thanks for the post... and like I said before, I would like to add something relating to all of this to my website... so any ideas or specifics would be great.

Blessings,

Kalika

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 16th, 2003, 10:27 PM
Have to use a steel cage since we bought the bar on busy nights. When the house is full, and the music is loud, it would completely overpower me otherwise.

Cerulean
November 17th, 2003, 12:27 AM
Do you find yourself longing to 'absorb' any emotion at some times no matter what it is just to know that you aren't alone? --Quote




Good point. It's supposed to be so easy to find like-minded companions but I haven't found it so. For the most responsive types, it's often been a choice between an intolerable vacuum or taking in something that isn't really what you want.


I don't have a T.V. I watched too much when I had one. Unfortunately I started listening to the radio addictively. Over the years radio programming has gotten more hateful and rightwing. What makes it even worse it that every half an hour, there are disturbing news headlines. So the radio is like a friend with Tourette's syndrome.

I had a "friend" that everyone said wasn't such a friend, but he spent hours and hours listening to me with sympathy. He lavished praise and compliments on me that made me glow. Unfortunately, he was a pathological liar, a pornography addict, and briefly, a wanna-be pimp (phase lasted a week). So, I got rid of him. Since, then, nothing. I've been so alone. Due to stress, I've made hundreds of calls to crisis lines to take up the vacuum left when I lost him. Everyone says, you can't put up with the type of stuff he does and I agree. But what about the vacuum? It seems worse, but he went too far and I couldn't take it anymore. I thought of writing a story based on our e-mails. They ranged from adoring archiac poetry to a topless picture he sent of a "babe" he was trying to get with (we had stopped dating). Our association also involved his crazy Korean boss who tapped my phone, and followed me in an SUV, all because he thought I had film of him and a prostitute. But I digress . . .

Empaths, yeah right. (Obviously I have an Aries side.) Anyway, (moon in Cancer) I like the name of this site. I think that the current time in history is particularly unkind to those with deep feeling.

There is a series of books or tapes by the School of the Divine Man/Berkeley Psychic School about how not to feel other people's feelings, how to separate yourself from them. I DON'T support their stance of pretending to be "amused" by everything but their techniques for separating and grounding have a lot of validity. They used to have branches in Northern California.

The music in the computer cafe where I am is too loud for me right now. I know what it's like to feel uncomfortable in thei world. Good to have a place to talk about it.

Xentor
November 17th, 2003, 06:15 PM
Have to use a steel cage since we bought the bar on busy nights. When the house is full, and the music is loud, it would completely overpower me otherwise.
:fprisoner

I do the brick wall visualisation as well. I'm not much of an empath (that I know of) but I seem to be a strong sender. So I kinda shield my signal. And for people bashing me I have an ocean ready. Very powerful image. I've been told visualisation is my strong suit, so I use that ability to protect myself.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 18th, 2003, 10:33 AM
It comes easier with practice, but some things can still force their way in. Last week 2 teens were killed in an auto accident, we are a small town and everyone knew them. It was impossible to block it all. Cried for 3 days.

FeatherGoblinglimmer
November 18th, 2003, 11:16 AM
* huggles Hawk* I know what you mean. I was on here the other day, and someones post really got me.I cried for like ever. I don't usually get such strong feelings about posts. I felt I had to help this person out big time. Like i was meant to find the post or something.

Kalika
November 18th, 2003, 05:30 PM
Cerulean-

It sounds like your situation is an unpleasant one right now... but in seeing that you say you like this site... I hope that coming here and posting helps you, even though it may not always be a pleasant experience. :) I know that there are many people here that would be happy to listen to you... and I hope that you find this a good place to make friends as well.

I agree with your point regarding TV and radio and the violent and often derogatory shows. But... I still watch. :) I've heard TiVo (or something like that) is a neat thing to have, as you can tape what programs you want... and watch without interruption. Though it sounds like you don't want a TV, just thought I'd mention it.

And... just for clarification... are you saying you don't believe in empathy... or that you do? I wasn't quite clear on that.

Blessings,

Kalika

Kalika
November 18th, 2003, 05:32 PM
It comes easier with practice, but some things can still force their way in. Last week 2 teens were killed in an auto accident, we are a small town and everyone knew them. It was impossible to block it all. Cried for 3 days.

I'm sorry hon. :hugz: I know its hard.

Blessings,

Kalika

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 18th, 2003, 10:05 PM
Thank you all, but I wasn't looking for sympathy, just relating. I wouldn't give it up. This thread can help us all if we let it.

Kalika
November 18th, 2003, 10:07 PM
Thank you all, but I wasn't looking for sympathy, just relating. I wouldn't give it up. This thread can help us all if we let it.

My post wasn't meant as sympathy so much as empathy. LOL. Hence... empathetic bunker.

Blessings. :)

Kalika

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 19th, 2003, 09:36 PM
My post wasn't meant as sympathy so much as empathy. LOL. Hence... empathetic bunker.

Blessings. :)

Kalika
Understood.

Kalika
November 20th, 2003, 07:35 AM
Understood.

Good! I wish people would come back and talk.....

Xentor
November 20th, 2003, 04:56 PM
People in general?

In my martial arts training, we are trained to sense a possible attacker's intentions. Are they good, are they bad, or are they sociopaths? We were also trained how to shield our own intentions when we attack. But I never got good at that. I seem to be an open book.

We have this test, it's called the "Sake test". Its purpose is to see whether you are ready to move onto the next level of training. The test is performed twice. First at black belt level, second about five years later, depending on your growth.

It is conducted as follows: the student squats down on the floor, head up, eyes closed. The teacher stands behind the student and holds a wooden sword. At a certain moment, the teacher strikes down to hit the student on the head. The test is succesful when the student notices the attack and rolls out of harm's way.

Some Japanese schools perform this test with real swords.

Of course, we practice it a lot. But I really have to open up completely and tune my senses to notice the attack. I can sense when someone is angry, but I can't sense someone going from zero to hundred in one breath's time. On the other hand, when I'm the sender, people want to leave as soon as possible, and I'm not even moving.

I don't remember where I was going with this. Just thought I'd share.

Kalika
November 20th, 2003, 05:49 PM
That's very interesting... and puts me in mind of something odd.

Can anyone else "sense" movement that you can't see? I've avoided many a blow because I can sense a move before its coming (VERY long story) and I wondered if anyone else notices this. Is it an empath thing... or just me? It's like I can "feel" the change in the air, no matter how slight. Can't really explain it better than that, but thought I'd ask.

Martial arts are great. They're fun, they keep you in shape, and they are good in cases of self defense. What kind do you take? They also are a great tool to discipline the mind... which comes in handy for an empath. :)

Blessings,

Kalika

Xentor
November 20th, 2003, 06:48 PM
(...) Can anyone else "sense" movement that you can't see? (...) Is it an empath thing... or just me? It's like I can "feel" the change in the air, no matter how slight. Can't really explain it better than that, but thought I'd ask.
We are trained to notice those changes. Some are better at it than others, so I guess empathy helps (or could drive you away...). I've been told I'm this beacon shining everyone right in the face, and they're having a hard time seperating intensity from intention. Now if I could use that intensity myself to sense a little better...

What kind do you take?
It's supposed to be secret, so don't tell anyone ;) I'm training in the art of ninjutsu. If you want to look for movie references try Jean Claude van Damme.

They also are a great tool to discipline the mind... which comes in handy for an empath.
Definitely. For instance, we're taught how to shield our thoughts, create protective barriers, focus thoughts for healing and meditation. I like it very much. It's like having a coven and a work-out at the same time.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 20th, 2003, 10:42 PM
Hi Xentor,
I took Tae Kwon Do and Kin Po. Both are very useful in sensing training. Once a buddy came up behind me and swung (play slap) about 7 times and I avoided all of them without seeing him at all. Really blew his mind!

Kalika
November 21st, 2003, 07:18 AM
I took some Tae Kwon Do, Self Defense Training, and weapons training. :)

I'd like to get back into Kung Fu right now, but alas, no $$ to spare at the moment.

Hawk, that's awesome. :) It's fun to make people think...."how the heck...?" sometimes. :lol:

Blessings,

Kalika

Aldrick
November 27th, 2003, 09:13 PM
I'm glad to see that I have returned to find my bunker greatly populated, I enjoy that we have all come together to discuss many things. My computer in US is still broken I'm back in Canada untill tomorrow. Hello and Blessed Greetings to all new comers and hello to everyone here before

Lunacie
November 28th, 2003, 08:00 AM
Hello Aldrick, good to see you again. I have wondered why you had disappeared. I hope you will be able to fix that computer and get back on the world wide web real soon.

lightfairy
November 28th, 2003, 08:44 AM
i wonder if that is what mine is, strong empathy that is. always wondered why now even years on i still get upset at some things. sounds wierd but to this day i still cry at bambi when his mum gets shot :rolleyes: lots of other little things too but too many to mention

Lunacie
November 28th, 2003, 10:47 AM
Does it seem odd to anyone else that the emotions I find it easiest to pick up are anger and frustration, but the one I find it easiest to project is fun and silliness? Aw heck, I've always been odd, so this is probably normal... for me. ;)

Aldrick
November 28th, 2003, 01:20 PM
I made a comment on this previously, one of my first comments on an Empathic livejournal community. I believe we pick up the anger and frustraition, and sadness the most easily (aswell as project fun and happiness the best) because it is through our pains which we dictate our pleasures.

cyprian
November 28th, 2003, 02:54 PM
Wow I had know idea that so many people were empaths. I read through some but not all of the posts and I can't believe how many people feel how I feel and act the way I do. The Empath Bunker was a great idea.

Aldrick
November 28th, 2003, 03:31 PM
I read through some but not all of the posts and I can't believe how many people feel how I feel and act the way I do. The Empath Bunker was a great idea.


This is the very reason I created the 'bunker' for, thank you and I hope you can relax while here and enjoy your time here.

I also was greatly surprised when I realised about other Empathic communities, it was odd. I was always 'feeling' and never truely alone but I personally felt alone constantly and I always got mad/upset/frustraited because when I knew what others felt and were thinking they didn't know the same about me. Sorry, I dont really know why I wrote that as a reply, lol.

Xentor
November 28th, 2003, 03:44 PM
There are a couple of reasons why I live alone. Empathy is one of them. My empathic talent isn't that strong, but it's strong enough to realise I prefer having plants around.

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 28th, 2003, 07:42 PM
I am very happy you created this bunker for us. Thank you, Aldrick. I have been dealing with things easier and with more grace than ever before.

ajna
November 28th, 2003, 08:02 PM
I've gone through alot of my own problems lately and, as I expected unfortunately, I kept assuming other's pain as well. Eventually it built up and built up and built up until it exploded. I got to a point where I had played out all the emotions I receive, pain, anger, sadness, until each one wore itself out and I became numb in that area. Now I can't even think of the problem becuse my body, or something akin to it, won't let me.
Has anyone else dealt with this? I have stopped sensing other people's emotions as well. I mean I still can, but only if I put alot of effort into it.

Aldrick
November 28th, 2003, 08:18 PM
I haven't been experiancing that per-say, I've always been able to sence emotions and thoughts without real effort, I've also always lived in a Deja-vu state because, well, I've been told that I have a gift for mental abilities including Precognition. I think this is apart of the reason my empathy is so high. Sorry I got off track, I recently posted in the 'prophetic dreams' section about a feeling I've been having for a short time. http://www.mysticwicks.com/showpost.php?postid=630246&postcount=27 you may or may not relate to this however this is one of three things that came to mind when you posted, the second was something I posted in an LJ community, My brother (a real, 'Holier then thou' type of person) lived with us for about a year, well during that time I was under alot of pressure and stress (my own) and found myself taking in the emotions of anyone within afew miles radius of me. Lets just say that resulted in shaking all curled up for a little bit. The third was right after that, after things calmed abit I somehow 'willed' my empathy and telepathy to turn themselves off. It wasn't a time I liked because I felt totally alone (kinda funny when you look at my previous posts in which I state Empathy also makes me feel alone in some ways) My Dragons were with me during that time (they always are with me) and explaining that With my abilities growing even more I need to quickly learn how to better controll them. I was always told my energy was great for someone my age as was my potential (I'm 18 now, and other then in Dragon Magick, Druidism, Fire Magick I dont really have much training. However these things I speak of happened at the ages of 15-16.)

I bring this up because everyone's abilities grow as they grow as a person, mind, body, and force. These abilities can flair out of controll for even the most trained, they can deminish shortly to come back even stronger, there are endless possibilities. For example: I am not a Psychic Vampire, however when my empathy and telepathy turned off I found myself still taking in the 'current moods' of people in my immediate area, and this energy was what kept me going. I didn't drain the people, just like, echoed them to a small extent, however the moods never quite felt my own.

Sorry, to those who're still reading at this point and not wanting to shut me up by beating me with a hammer, I commend and thank you. I'll cease my babble

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 28th, 2003, 08:24 PM
Aldrick, I think you are very lucky to know what you are at such an early age. I was 49 and had to be told by my wife. Half a lifetime (I Hope) to find out I wasn't some kind of freak!

Aldrick
November 28th, 2003, 08:33 PM
I didn't think I was lucky at first, I actually called it a curse. I wasn't calling it a curse those weeks I didn't have it. Heh

And you're right, you aren't a freak, non of us are. Why call ourselves freaks, and I now know why call this obvious gift a curse? Think of how many friends, family members, situations which this gift has helped you or the other person out in a benificial way. If you can look at someone accross the room and tell why they're crying and always manage to say the right thing or even tell that they're going to start later on and prevent it from happening. Then that is no curse, you aren't a freak. It is a rare and beautful gift and in the eyes of the person you just helped, you are magnificent. All the pain in the world can't even compair to the feeling I recieve after aiding someone, making them smile, etc. And I aswell hope that It is more then half a life time, hey even a third, this is the 21st century. Lol

Hawk Shadowsoul
November 28th, 2003, 08:38 PM
Agreed and thanks. lol

IrishRiotGrrrl
November 28th, 2003, 10:12 PM
I have taken antidepressants and everything for it. I didn't realize until I read this thread what it really is. I said something to my husband he said yup, your psychic. I knew that a long time ago. Why didn't he tell me? I have been freaking out lately because of it. I dont know how to control it. I need calm right now. *breaths* can someone private message me and teach me how to handle this?

Aldrick
November 28th, 2003, 10:29 PM
I posted this in my PM to IrishRiotGrrrl and decided its a good idea. Where does everyone place themselves on the 'Empathic Chart' ? 1-10

Let me ask how 'high'-'low' empathic are you 1-10
1= Moody/unsure if its empathy or a bad day.
2= occasional emotions you feel and can't place them
3= feel wide span of emotions changing constantly like a wave hitting you, cant tell where from or apart.
4= you know where the emotion is coming from and are starting to seperate other people's emotions from your own.
5= Can tell your own emotion from other peoples as soon as you recieve them (or almost.)
6= you pretty much know what to say/not say and when after a conversation starts.
7.= You know what and when to say/not say something even before you see the person/they begin to speak.
8= low level telepathy borders.
9. Everyone in area, on occasion you may develop a bond over a distance, slightly medium telepathy.
10= Everyone around you even great distances at times, you feel their emotions, absorb moods and even borders upon high telepathy.

Kalika
November 29th, 2003, 01:00 PM
7 is where I started.... all of that I felt before I really knew what it was...

But I think I would classify myself at 9 - what about everyone else? I have a tendency to freak people out with this... knowing what they are thinking/feeling type thing.... anybody else have this?

Ajna - I hope you are feeling better. I do that too, actually, it seems like things get to me and wear me out alot more when I am having a bad day.... :hugz: So you aren't alone!!

Lunacie
November 29th, 2003, 02:55 PM
Some days I am more open and some days I'm more closed off. Some people broadcast much stronger than others so I pick up more when around that type. I've had some telepathy along with distance viewing, but have learned to tune that out the way you stop listening to some commercials, unless I want to listen/feel/see.

lightfairy
November 29th, 2003, 03:17 PM
bouncing between 5 and 7 depending on my state of mind, when concentrating on a task its the lower end but when medeitating the higher end

Xentor
November 30th, 2003, 03:51 PM
I'm usually around "Aldrick Level" 4. (Hey, we need a name for this scale, anyway ;) )

But there are times I jump into #7 and it scares me.

I was lucky enough not to experience the higher levels. I've trouble enough controlling my own urges, let alone controlling the input of others around me.

Kalika
November 30th, 2003, 03:55 PM
Yeah, it does get kinda scarey. :) But its a good thing for me though... I plan on going to medical school, so I think this will help me in that regard.

It's interesting to see what level others are working with.

Blessings,

Kalika

Aldrick
November 30th, 2003, 04:01 PM
I'm usually around "Aldrick Level" 4. (Hey, we need a name for this scale, anyway ;) )

But there are times I jump into #7 and it scares me.


'The Aldrick Level' lol I like that. I'm also quite impressed in the rapid jump you just mentioned, is this all at once or do you find yourself going through the other levels?

Aldrick
November 30th, 2003, 04:03 PM
Yeah, it does get kinda scarey. :) But its a good thing for me though... I plan on going to medical school, so I think this will help me in that regard.

It's interesting to see what level others are working with.

Blessings,

Kalika


Actually my Fiance's mother, I'm not positive but I believe she's empathic, is a Nurse, same goes for my mother. You're right I've found, through previous studies that many Empaths become positions in medical or social like nurse/doctor/councellor, etc.
Best of luck to you Kalika, and the rest of you of course in both the growth of your empathy/other abilities aswell as in yourself.

Pesha
November 30th, 2003, 04:05 PM
I found when I was nursing that being an empath was a very helpful thing. But I had to rememebr to always send the negative energies and pain and other foul forces back into the Universe to be sent into the great void. So many times we forget to do this and become sick ourselves. As I have mentione many times and I think in this thread somewhere as well, using my Wall of Glass encantation has helped tro sheild me from unwanted and dangerous energies.

BB
DS.

Xentor
November 30th, 2003, 04:24 PM
'The Aldrick Level' lol I like that. I'm also quite impressed in the rapid jump you just mentioned, is this all at once or do you find yourself going through the other levels?
Usually I peak. Mostly with people I don't know yet, I seem to have created a barrier for the emotions of people close to me, some kind of natural repellant. It can take up to a day before I can adjust and lock them out as well. But the remainder stays around #4.

ajna
November 30th, 2003, 04:25 PM
7 is where I started.... all of that I felt before I really knew what it was...

But I think I would classify myself at 9 - what about everyone else? I have a tendency to freak people out with this... knowing what they are thinking/feeling type thing.... anybody else have this?

Ajna - I hope you are feeling better. I do that too, actually, it seems like things get to me and wear me out alot more when I am having a bad day.... :hugz: So you aren't alone!!
Thanks so much :hugz:. I've stopped being numb now, I'm just exhausted, but I have risen back up to a 4 on the chart thingy. When I am my most stable I am about a 7 or 8.
I also wanted to give you a hug :hugz:. You said you are a 9. Is it very difficult? It would be near unbearable to me.

Aldrick
November 30th, 2003, 05:09 PM
I might aswell answer my own 'scale' right? Lol I experiance lowest scales of 8, usually always in the 9 area and at times (more often I'm finding now) in the 10 range.

MysticMama
November 30th, 2003, 05:56 PM
I might aswell answer my own 'scale' right? Lol I experiance lowest scales of 8, usually always in the 9 area and at times (more often I'm finding now) in the 10 range.

This is where I would classify myself too...in most situations and cases an 8, but with certain people or in certain situations it jumps up to the 10 range.

I'm a healer, and it definitely makes a huge impact on my intuitive abilities and knowing what works and what doesn't with regard to clients. I normally pick up on the energetic side of things immediately and adjust accordingly. It's sometimes scary and can be exhausting, but mostly just reassuring to know that I'm right on track with what I'm sensing.

Kalika
November 30th, 2003, 07:41 PM
Ajna - It can be difficult. :) But I wouldn't change it, because its a part of what makes me who I am. ;) I am glad to hear you are doing a little better. Hopefully it will be steady progress.

As for what the others say... I find that I'm the opposite. I'm closer to the 10 side of things with people I'm very close to... especially when they are VERY happy or VERY upset. Strong emotions tend to have an emotionally catastrophic effect on me if I don't have time to "brace" myself before hand. Negative emotions tend to wear me out... even where I work now, and with the blocking I do... it seems like the people I work with are very unhappy.

Dragonsinger - Thats really good advice... and something I often forget to do. :)

Aldrick - Your scale is a handy dandy little thing... did you come up with it, or did you find it elsewhere? Can I use it on my website?

PS I am still working on the empathy part of my website - coming soon!! Any suggestion ya'll have would be great.

Blessings,

Kalika

Pesha
November 30th, 2003, 07:48 PM
I as a healer find I am usually always in the 10 range as I have a strong gift. Draining at times and somedays I wish I was a mute, but am what I am for a reason I guess.

BB
DS.

Aldrick
November 30th, 2003, 08:27 PM
Yes Kalika, I created it and no I wouldn't mind what-so-ever if you used it.
Only one request, give it the name Xen created for it.
Let's call it the "Aldrick Empathy Scale" Lol

Kalika
November 30th, 2003, 08:32 PM
You're great!! Thank you Aldrick.

Dragonsinger - do you have any psychic healing gifts? (IE laying on hands)

Hawk Shadowsoul
December 1st, 2003, 07:50 PM
I as a healer find I am usually always in the 10 range as I have a strong gift. Draining at times and somedays I wish I was a mute, but am what I am for a reason I guess.

BB
DS.
I too am a healer! Sometimes it is much stronger than others!

Lunacie
December 2nd, 2003, 01:44 AM
I sometimes do healing and I'm a tarot and rune reader as well. If my empathy were to be in the 10 range all of the time I would be too overwhelmed by other's feelings and thoughts to be able to sort out the feelings or thoughts of just the one person. Maybe I have learned to shield and filter better than I realized, or maybe I shut myself off as a defense mechanism.

Also there are people who are too closed off or shielded to allow one to read them or heal them which bothered me at first as it seemed like a failure on my part, but which I came to realize has more to do with them than me. Some people don't want to be healed since they enjoy the sympathy they get for their suffering. And some people don't want to be read because the reader might discover something they want to remain a secret. Sometimes people just have too much doubt about whether healing really works or are too sceptical of readers.

Kalika
December 2nd, 2003, 06:16 PM
Lunacie,

I agree. It used to frustrate me as well. Some people are good at blocking their thoughts and emotions.... then again, there are others who practically scream at you. :) There are those who don't want to be healed... for the reason you stated. Those people always make me sad.

I'm also a healer (I have a lot of gifts... wow). I can transfer pain, take it away (not major, but minor to medium) or lessen it, and am also very good at calming people down by touching them. Used to frighten me alot.... but actually, healing is one of the first things I "learned" about. Used to scare my parents too... :lol: I've always been the "strange" one in our family in that sense.

Anybody else have similar abilities? Do you think empathy and healing come together in a sense, or that one or the other can be developed if you are an empath or can heal?

Blessings,

Kalika

Xentor
December 2nd, 2003, 06:22 PM
I can heal as well. It takes a lot of effort, though.

This gift may be hereditary. My father is a telepath / empath / healer, my mother is telekinetic / telepathic, my sister is a telepath. I'm no telepath, my healing exists but not abundantly, but I seem to be a beacon of energy. "Screaming" might be the correct description ;)

Kalika
December 2nd, 2003, 09:15 PM
Hmm... I wonder. Maybe you're right? I don't know. I'm adopted, so I don't know what my birth parents are like. Interesting theory though. :)

Aldrick
December 2nd, 2003, 09:28 PM
It very well may possibly be. However through my blood's history Magick was great, recently not so high untill it hit me, its like it skipped about 4 generations if not more and hit me with the combined energy of them all. Lol
Long story behind that but dont worry about it, wouldn't want to bore any of you

Kalika
December 2nd, 2003, 09:30 PM
It very well may possibly be. However through my blood's history Magick was great, recently not so high untill it hit me, its like it skipped about 4 generations if not more and hit me with the combined energy of them all. Lol
Long story behind that but dont worry about it, wouldn't want to bore any of you

Cmon Cmon Cmon.... I like stories!!! PlZ??

Romani Vixen
December 3rd, 2003, 02:43 AM
I tend to shield, but still let it down on occasion when I'm out to practice focusing on one person (can anyone do this!!! I'm guessing right now).

I have a few different shields. Basic bubble (soft, flexible, breathable, clear... my 'daily'), Light (pick a color as need be), and if I'm feeling really frightened, angry, etc.... iron, with 2 foot spikes... nothin touches me in this. One might think that it would feel really claustrophobic, but it doesn't.

FalconSong

Romani Vixen
December 3rd, 2003, 02:57 AM
I noticed a lot of people watch movies sometimes to release. For me, it's music.
Oh! Another one!!!

I actually use music to control to the extreme...

And sometimes you just need to sob, and certain music is a good way of telling yourself that this is a safe time and place to let it all go. This is also particularly useful for abuse victims and people with PTSD.

Romani Vixen
December 3rd, 2003, 02:58 AM
Music? Let me guess, Im probably totally wrong but do you prefer things like Emo and Mostly Instrumental or music from Indie Movies like 'Winter Overture' of 'Mad World'?
Or Aerosmith, Midnight Oil, Heather Alexander... the list goes on and on!!!

Romani Vixen
December 3rd, 2003, 03:01 AM
I love practical magic... Evanessance (not that I can spell) is always good for just getting out greef...



Some people find it strange when I say that Godsmack calms me down because their music is so aggressive. I guess what really calms me is Sully Erna's voice. I haven't figured out what it is about his voice that does, but when I have those days when I just want to explode, their cd's are the first ones I reach for.

When I need a comfort movie, though, Practical Magic is usually what I watch.

Thanks for the welcome. :) I'm still exploring, as the concept that all these emotional days I've been having all my life is part of a bigger picture still seems somewhat new. It's good to know there are other people who "get it."

Romani Vixen
December 3rd, 2003, 03:13 AM
((((huggs))))

I so feel you. My ex once almost cheated on me. I felt it comming. I cant be with untruthful people... I know even the little s... stuff.


One good thing I find in being an empath is that people can never lie to me. I know when they are being truthful and when they are not. What is bad I suppose is that i can be out and about and cry at the drop of a hat if i get too close to sad people.....then it is the Wall of Glass time.

BB
D'S...also known as...

Kalika
December 3rd, 2003, 07:25 AM
I agree... Evanescence is great for me.... Its a huge help, listening to the songs. And a bonus? The whole CD is great!!!


:hugz: I'm sorry hon.

Autumn Clair
December 4th, 2003, 08:35 AM
I guess you've read my stuff hear or there. I don't sound like a person in distress but I am when I see a child kidnapped on the news or kids in other countries with no shelter or food. How about when fires burn whole counties down, or people dying for their nation. If I let that part of me out I would never step out into the sunlight again. I don't like watching to news or reading the newspaper because there is so much evil amoung us it's sad.
I live in the moment of present.

Have you ever really lived
In the moment called "PRESENT"
I saw it once, upon this day.

The birds were singing.
A butterfly silently said hello.
And the wind whispered to me
Here and Now.

It was a brief chance at that.
One you'd hardly have time to see.
But a beauty in itself was this moment to me.

And I hope that it visits me once everyday.
For the present is kinder then, yesterday.

W.A.S.Scotti

When I read this a calm came over me and I saw the world for the beauty it holds tight to. The Earth Screams loudly and few hear her Cries. She is sad just as you and I.

Hawk Shadowsoul
December 4th, 2003, 10:00 PM
Just a note to thank you all for sharing. I don't if it helps the rest of you, but I find it a great comfort to hear your "confessions"!

Lunacie
December 5th, 2003, 08:32 AM
I've known there were others like me for 15 or more years, but I love having a chance to talk to the