Would anyone be willing to be my Tarot test people?

[loopy]

Here's the thing--I finally finished my deck. Memorizing every card and all meanings and such. Of course, you learn something new every day anyway, but I've got the basics down. :)

Anyway, my problem is interpreting the cards together in a spread. I know that only time and experience will help. It's just that there are so many different ways to interpret them individually, and then all together... working with the Celtic cross spread, I'll look at things one way and interpret, but then realize there are a bunch of other ways I could be looking at them. It makes me wonder if I'm seeing things wrongly or not.

So I was wondering if maybe you all would let me do a few Celtic cross spreads for you and then list my first impressions, and then what I thought after I analyzed again and again, so maybe it would give me an impression of where I'm going wrong and what I'm missing--if my gut instincts are correct or not.

Any takers? :)

[Emy]

Sure! go ahead! Although I think you might be surprised to see that you in fact aren't doing anything wrong. I am sure your conclusions will be just fine! :)

Now, celtic cross, do you want me to give you a question or do you prefer to do a more general reading ?
If you want a question here is one: How will my next (and final) year at the university be?

I however prefer to do the celtic cross in a more general way, I think the question just makes me confused, there are other spreads that works better for me with questions :) ... however I know people who think that the celtic cross is the best when it comes to questions... :)

Blessings

[loopy]

Thanks Emy! I did the reading...got two different impressions. To me, the spread could be depicted as a more material thing or as a relationship thing. I'm going to give you both. :) Warning, this will be a mite long. :) Oh, it should also be said that I'm using the Elemental Tarot. I used your question, but I don't know if the outcome has anything to do with it...

First Impression:

You're currently in a position where you're fighting to acheive something. You're very devoted to it, in part because you know it's the right thing to do, and it affects you deeply. You were perhaps keeping quiet about it for a while, but had a great desire to express your feelings. Recently you might have come in contact with a strong person, who might have inspired you to speak your mind. There's presently a meeting of some sort, which bears an effect on the cause you're fighting for. I see good things coming of it, where you gain respect for your mature and sound thought, are put in a position of authority or are looked up to.

I see frustration on your part now because of feelings of being trapped in a system you can no longer believe in. People around you fully support you in your campaign, and are willing to help, but know that you must do it alone. You'll gain great self-awareness through this experience, and perhaps persue other compaigns.

I'll be back with my second impression tomorrow, as it's very late and I forgot it. 8O

In case you have no idea how this relates to you, maybe I wasn't concentrating enough--I figured I'd include all the meanings and maybe someone else could tell me if they would have gotten the same impression, or if they think it was a reasonable conclusion to come to. :)

1st position (Questioner in present position) Son of Air card
The Son of Air card represents someone devoted to a cause, who's not afraid to jump in if they feel there's an injustice afoot. Sons automatically have the element of fire in them, symbolizing creativity, and Air represents Intellect.

2nd Position (Immediate Influence) Radiance
The Radiance card, the 9 of fire, represents the joy that comes with being true to oneself, to finding one's true mode of expression. The ability to inspire. The 9 represents the path to contentment, true values being found.

3rd position (Background) Fountain card
Fountain card, or 1 of Water, represents a desire to release emotions that have been contained. Can also mean love at first sight. The 1 depicts beginnings.

4th position (Recent Past) Mother of Air
Depicts a strong, single woman, competitive and successful.

5th position (Present) Flame
Flame, also 2 of Fire, is a card of a meeting that may or may not lead to something more important. Also means a brief affair or sexual attraction, a desire to develop and establish a relationship. The number two represents a connection or balance--something coming together with another.

6th Position (Near Future) Cloud
The eight of Air represents an intellectual high. Gaining respect for mature and sound thought, a position of authority through acheivement. The number eight meaning past experiences leading to security and establishment.

7th position (Attitude) Cyclone
Cyclone, or 10 of Air, represents a complete breakdown of a concept or idea, or someone frustrated at being stuck in a system they no longer agree with. The number 10 means something collapsing to lead to something new.

8th position (Others' Views) Pope
The Pope card represents the belief system one clings to when faced with the unknown or uncertain. Shows support given, while knowing that whatever the questioner is facing, they'll have to deal with it solely, eventually.

9th position (For and Against) Sun
The conscious self. Self-awareness. Seeing things as if one were a child, with new eyes.

10th position (Final Outcome) Son of Water
The Son of Water represents a charmer, someone who is sensitive to the needs of others, who is strong and seductive.

[Dria El]

I wouldn't mind if you practiced on me. :) Let me know if you want a question or subject or whatever.

[loopy]

Thanks! :) Question's not necessary--I like the general readings better. :) I think I'm going to sleep now, but I'll do it soon as I'm awake enough to. :)

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

Yep, sign me up too! ;)

[MistOfTheSea86]

I would love it if you read mine I will read your too;) All you have to do is sign up with my thread Beginner and we'll both be set :p :D

[satika]

Am I too late to sign up? I haven't had a reading by anyone
since my niece was practicing on me.
I like the general readings also.

BB
Satika

[loopy]

Sorry this took a bit longer. :D I wasn't in the mood for a little bit, and I figured the negativity wouldn't really go towards correct readings. :)

With the excuses out of the way...

Dria El. :) I see an unbreakable human spirit, an optimism, confidence. This is influenced by both intellectual and emotional security. The background card signifies an awakening, a finding of one's true mode of expression, being true to oneself. The Recent Past card shows a celebration of that, and of life, and your newfound confidence. This is all reflected in the Present card, showing an emotional security. The Near Future card is the Moon, illusion, representing the unconscious self. This card can also represent someone being deceived or who is deceiving someone. In this case, I feel like maybe it just symbolizes an awakening, a deeper knowledge of something you might have previously thought was beyond your reach.

The attitude card shows you feeling an unexpected emotional experience; I don't feel this is a bad upheaval. The Fate card shows your family and friends acknowledging this. This will be your emotional safety for a long time, the belief system you can turn to in rough times. The outcome shows you being accepted and receiving recognition for good you are doing. :)

Make any sense at all? :)

[loopy]

Ok, here's for Dagda. :)

Trying to persuade someone to embark on a new enterprise with you? I see an idea that you're very excited and enthusiastic about. The Background card shows a situation that you weren't quite happy with, a period where nothing exciting was happening. I'm reading that you talked to a friend of yours--the card depicts him or her as understanding, giving good advice, very sympathetic to the problems of others. In the "present" position is the Open Air card. In this case, it seems to be a very good card, representing someone with the power to persuade, who has the confidence that what they say will be listened to and respected. It also symbolizes travel, a broadening of horizons.

In the attitude position is the good ole Radiance card, representing that you feel that you can inspire others to be as enthusiastic about this project as you are. That this is something you were born to do. From the Sun card, I believe you are influencing people, and they're gaining a sense of awareness, looking at things anew because of your persuasiveness.

The Mother of Air card in the "For and Against" position shows a woman confident, powerful, authoritative and direct, but also caring. On the "against" side, it can also mean someone who is a bit overbearing. Maybe symbolizing that you shouldn't get so wrapped up in this that you push too hard.

For the final outcome, I see ideas being exchanged, communication, serious consideration being given. The Daughter of Air card also represents someone with a wide circle of useful friends, perhaps showing the gaining of them through the meetings/exchanges taking place now.

[loopy]

Ok, here's what I drew for ya. :)

I'm seeing emotional security. You're in a relationship with someone who's generally considered a charmer, a persuasive smooth-talker type. Background shows you meeting her and having it develop into a long-term relationship. You feel successful, like you're able to show everyone that the relationship could last, that things are going your way. The "near future" is the Empress card, which represents the experienced feminine self, someone willing to defend and fight for what's theirs. I'm feeling like maybe there will be (or already is) some competition for this girl. You're weighing up things, trying to decide if the relationship can stick. I think this is because friends and family telling you that it's not good for you, that it's a destructive relationship, and it's making you have doubts.

The for and against card shows you putting yourself out there for her despite any consequences. Maybe even shifting your views to satisfy her. The final outcome shows something bringing out your competitive instinct, probably because of the competition foreseen in the Near Future card.

Edited because now I suddenly feel like maybe the competitive thing is you fighting to keep the relationship despite what others say, which seems to make more sense, given the surrounding cards. :)

Eck. Now watch, you won't even have a significant other. :) Oh, btw, I used "her" because I wasn't sure what your sex was, but on another post read you refer to yourself as a guy, so I took a chance. If it's a guy you're in a relationship with, sorry for the mistake, nothing was intended by it. :)

[loopy]

Satika--nope, you're never too late. :) I'm going to do yours tomorrow, as I feel my cards need a break. :)

Oh, and I just wanted to thank everyone for letting me read for them. :)

[MistOfTheSea86]

Well you are right. I do have feelings for someone, I have been going over it a while now. But still have no idea who it is. I WOuld turn my world upside down for the. I have narrowed it down to two people. Either this one girl, who is about to go out with another guy. Or this guy who I felt had no chance with. I Hope I find love in my future. I am looking forward to it!!!

[Semele]

*raising hand in the air bouncing on my seat* Pick me!! Pick me!!!

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

Originally posted by loopy
Ok, here's for Dagda. :)

Trying to persuade someone to embark on a new enterprise with you? I see an idea that you're very excited and enthusiastic about. The Background card shows a situation that you weren't quite happy with, a period where nothing exciting was happening. I'm reading that you talked to a friend of yours--the card depicts him or her as understanding, giving good advice, very sympathetic to the problems of others. In the "present" position is the Open Air card. In this case, it seems to be a very good card, representing someone with the power to persuade, who has the confidence that what they say will be listened to and respected. It also symbolizes travel, a broadening of horizons.

In the attitude position is the good ole Radiance card, representing that you feel that you can inspire others to be as enthusiastic about this project as you are. That this is something you were born to do. From the Sun card, I believe you are influencing people, and they're gaining a sense of awareness, looking at things anew because of your persuasiveness.

The Mother of Air card in the "For and Against" position shows a woman confident, powerful, authoritative and direct, but also caring. On the "against" side, it can also mean someone who is a bit overbearing. Maybe symbolizing that you shouldn't get so wrapped up in this that you push too hard.

For the final outcome, I see ideas being exchanged, communication, serious consideration being given. The Daughter of Air card also represents someone with a wide circle of useful friends, perhaps showing the gaining of them through the meetings/exchanges taking place now.


Hmm....can't think of a new anything I'm doing or planning. My boyfriend has this going on though.....so as the first cards flow into the rest.....I'm not seeing it. I'll re-think it though and see what I come up with....hmmmmmmm.....stumped, but thinking. ;)

Thank you Loopy. :D

[loopy]

Darn. Really thought I had that one. :D Ah well. Live and learn. And then get Luvs. :D

[Dria El]

Originally posted by loopy
Sorry this took a bit longer. :D I wasn't in the mood for a little bit, and I figured the negativity wouldn't really go towards correct readings. :)

With the excuses out of the way...

Dria El. :) I see an unbreakable human spirit, an optimism, confidence. This is influenced by both intellectual and emotional security. The background card signifies an awakening, a finding of one's true mode of expression, being true to oneself. The Recent Past card shows a celebration of that, and of life, and your newfound confidence. This is all reflected in the Present card, showing an emotional security. The Near Future card is the Moon, illusion, representing the unconscious self. This card can also represent someone being deceived or who is deceiving someone. In this case, I feel like maybe it just symbolizes an awakening, a deeper knowledge of something you might have previously thought was beyond your reach.

The attitude card shows you feeling an unexpected emotional experience; I don't feel this is a bad upheaval. The Fate card shows your family and friends acknowledging this. This will be your emotional safety for a long time, the belief system you can turn to in rough times. The outcome shows you being accepted and receiving recognition for good you are doing. :)

Make any sense at all? :)

Yes, sort of... I'm not sure how they tie together though. I'm still thinking on that part. :) Thanks for the reading! Good job!

[loopy]

What am I doing wrong here? Anyone have any suggestions? Did anyone else have trouble when they first started?

Frustrated and feeling pathetically sorry for myself,
~loopy

[Emy]

Hmmm well loopy, I gotta think some about the reading you did for me, I am not really sure how it fits me I'm afraid... Well, gotta think some, and than I'll get back to you :)

Blessings

[Dagda Moon~Lily]

Oh, I had tons of problems when I first started....the key is practice and trying to get it all to make sense and fit together for me.

I feel your reading fit my boyfriend better than me. ...but then again, the cards I draw for a self reading seem to reflect him more than me! ...Tarot...go figure....it works in mysterious ways! ;)

Just keep practicing! I know you feel frustrated, but at one point or another, we all do.

Maybe if you tried to do smaller spreads for these readings...?....like a 1-3 card spread....and really focus on the person you are reading for. ;) (I know, no new advice here...)

Just keep at it Loopy!

::sending extra luvin's and passing the goodie jar to Loopy::

:sunny:

[Lilu]

Hang in there Loopy, it's not always easy, and you will get the hang of it. There can always been different ways of interpreting things too, which will come with developing your intuition. Stick with it!!!

Another thing is that even if people aren't totally "with" what you're saying, what you are seeing might be underlying factors in their lives and may show themselves later. And sometimes, we just get the wrong message. :)

You're more than welcome to practice on me.
Email me a lilu@johndoe.org if you want.


:sunny: Bright Blessings
Lilu

[Emy]

My biggest trouble in my readings (not so much anymore) is that I tend to put logic and intellect into my readings and that sure doesn't belong there, now I only try to listen to my intuition, to my feelings and to the energy I sense when I read... and that works well! :)
I am rather logic and analytic about many other things (I analyze, I make theories about this and that, I search for logic in others theories, maybe this side has gotten a little too much attention from me now that I am studying at the university, because there they want you to think like that), but in tarot it doesn't belong, I make myself accept that there isn't necessarily ant logic there, and that it doesn't have to be logic to me... :) Tarot is not the place for my logic analytic side, but my sort of creative analytic side sure belongs there :) That helps me with my reading...

And as for your reading for me, well, I can't really work it out, not in the context of my question anyway... and not much in other ways either... I'm gonna think some about it though, I mean what you have found in your reading might still lay on a hidden level to me, I might not yet have realized it... :)

Blessings

[loopy]

Thanks guys. :) I did a couple readings for my mother last night, who said they were accurate, so I'm thinking maybe I just can't do the long-distance thing.

[Semele]

Hang in there!!! It is very hard to encorporate the meanings into full spreads. Takes lots of practice!!! I have to agree that it is easier to start smaller. i started with three card spreads. Basic past, present, future kind of thing. In fact I still do them the most...lazy I guess!!!

You will get there. Better to practice on those of us who can give you good feedback!!! We are your willing subjects for as long as you like!!!

[Amethyst Rose]

I've found that when you do long distance readings (and I do these for an online tarot network), that if you get a feel of who it is you're reading for, the reading goes a lot smoother.

So...if you can get their birthdate, or their age and zodiac (that's what I do), you can get a feeling of who they are... that way, the cards are more attuned to them.

If you have to, take a card to represent them based on their age, sex and zodiac. It just gives you something to focus on....

This'll help:

Cups correspond to the element of Water
Signs: Pisces, Cancer, Scorpio
Wands correspond to the element of Fire
Signs: Leo, Aries, Sagittarius
Swords correspond to the element of Air
Signs: Gemini, Aquarius, Libra
Pentacles correspond to the element of Earth
Signs: Taurus, Capricorn, Virgo

Kings: Used to represent an adult male
Queens: Used to represent an adult female
Knights: Can be used to represent a young, adult male, although knights generally refer more to thought and action issues than to a specific person.
Pages: Used to represent a person who has not yet reached adulthood, regardless of sex.

With that in mind.... try a reading on me. I am an adult (age 23) female, zodiac of Aquarius. So my significator would be Queen of Swords.

:D

[Rævyn Cigány]

I found the Arthurian Tarot at my local pagan shop! *Does a little dance* If I pick it up, you and I should get together and compare notes, Loopy! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D it's soooo beautiful...I can't wait to pick it up

BB

Rae )0(

[loopy]

Raevyn-- that's great! :) But I think you're confusing me with someone else--I have the Elemental Tarot, not the Arthurian. :)

Amethyst Rose--thank you. :) I'm going to do your reading as soon as I feel a bit better. (I'm a bit under the weather today) :)

Semele--I think I will stick to smaller readings for a while until I really get the hang of them, then move on. I never really liked the Cross spread anyway. :)

[satika]

Greetings Everyone:
Loopy, it sounds like you did too much too soon, taking a rest
sounds like a good idea. Try not to push yourself so hard.
Rest Easy.

Brightest Blessings
Satika

[Dria El]

Originally posted by loopy
What am I doing wrong here? Anyone have any suggestions? Did anyone else have trouble when they first started?

Frustrated and feeling pathetically sorry for myself,
~loopy

If you're worried about what I said, don't. I'm still trying to figure out what all this means. I'm so new to this that I just got a deck and don't know what to do with it! lol I'm sure you did fine! I'm the one that needs to figure it out.

[Dria El]

Originally posted by loopy
Sorry this took a bit longer. :D I wasn't in the mood for a little bit, and I figured the negativity wouldn't really go towards correct readings. :)

With the excuses out of the way...

Dria El. :) I see an unbreakable human spirit, an optimism, confidence. This is influenced by both intellectual and emotional security. The background card signifies an awakening, a finding of one's true mode of expression, being true to oneself. The Recent Past card shows a celebration of that, and of life, and your newfound confidence. This is all reflected in the Present card, showing an emotional security. The Near Future card is the Moon, illusion, representing the unconscious self. This card can also represent someone being deceived or who is deceiving someone. In this case, I feel like maybe it just symbolizes an awakening, a deeper knowledge of something you might have previously thought was beyond your reach.

The attitude card shows you feeling an unexpected emotional experience; I don't feel this is a bad upheaval. The Fate card shows your family and friends acknowledging this. This will be your emotional safety for a long time, the belief system you can turn to in rough times. The outcome shows you being accepted and receiving recognition for good you are doing. :)

Make any sense at all? :)

Oh wait!!! I went back and read it again after the last post and I think I get it!!! WOW!!! Ok, it makes total sense now!!! See!!! I told you it was probably just me!!! hehe :) Thanks loopy!!!

[loopy]

Dria El-- no worries. :) Just a building up of other things, and then not seeming to get anything right got me a bit disparaged. :) Don't feel guilty though--practice makes perfect, right? :) I'll improve over time. Hopefully. Gulp. :D

[Rævyn Cigány]

Originally posted by loopy
Raevyn-- that's great! :) But I think you're confusing me with someone else--I have the Elemental Tarot, not the Arthurian. :)

)

Oh lol, that's not what I meant...I was just excited about finding the Arthurian Tarot...I saw it first in an online card store and fell in love with it, and there it was, just down the road from where I work! *Oh happy day!*

BB

Rae )0(

[loopy]

Ah, ok! 8O Sorry bout that. 8O 8O ::mental note to self: STOP responding to posts on one hour of sleep:: :D :D :D

[Silver Venus]

:D Hope youve had some good sleep ~ any tarot dreams?

When youve got a few moments to spare you can use me as a guinea pig! Id love a one card reading! You did really well on everyone :)
Ill draw one for you too tomorrow ;)