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Woidl
September 16th, 2003, 04:22 PM
Hi, when I make some horoscope charts of people there is many differences in aspects, some have 12 some have 24! What does that mean? Is the person more complicated? Or does it change the meaning of the aspected planets? Who knows?
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mol
September 18th, 2003, 09:57 AM
Hi, when I make some horoscope charts of people there is many differences in aspects, some have 12 some have 24! What does that mean? Is the person more complicated? Or does it change the meaning of the aspected planets? Who knows?
By the way...astro-software.com is a nice site to let your chart be drawn...
Day or night...sweet dreams
Welcome to MW. I am sure Litha or someone else will be around shortly to lend you some advice.
moon-in-libra
September 20th, 2003, 09:48 PM
The more aspects the planet makes, generally, the more important the planet is in the chart.
Unaspected can mean the planet does not work along with the others in any way. For example, an unaspected Moon can mean the person has trouble with relating emotions in every level.
The most aspected planet can make you seem more like the sign(s) ruled by that planet. A well-aspected Sun in Gemini can take on Gemini and Leo-like aspects, for example.
Squares, conjunctions, sextiles, trines, and oppositions between planets cause them to interact. Yeah, and tons of aspects can make a person more complex, just do a chart with someone with a heavily-aspected Neptune, your head will spin.
Valkie
December 8th, 2003, 09:21 PM
Squares, conjunctions, sextiles, trines, and oppositions between planets cause them to interact. Yeah, and tons of aspects can make a person more complex, just do a chart with someone with a heavily-aspected Neptune, your head will spin.
How about a heavily aspected anything!! I have a grand total of 37 major aspect within an 8 degree orb including chiron, asc, and mc. I also have 3 quincunx not in that total, 2 of which make a yod. I've been spending the past year trying to figure out what my chart means :sick:
Valerie
moon-in-libra
December 9th, 2003, 08:36 PM
The two planets making the sextile directs focused energy to the third planet. The house and the sign of that third planet will have a special, uneven energy.
Another way to start figuring out your chart is to take the tightest aspect, and go from there. Easiest if it involoves an inner/outer planet, say Moon/Juspiter.
An aspect to the AC can give you insight into how others perceive you, an aspect to the MC about how you will be perceived by the public, an aspect to the DSC about how you will perceive others, then the IC can show you your hidden depths....
Kadynas
December 9th, 2003, 08:48 PM
The third planet in the yod is quincunx to the 2 that are sextile right? Just checking... haven't read much about yods. :)
RedRose
December 9th, 2003, 10:19 PM
Yods look like big arrows that point to one planet. Your Ascendent or Midheaven or even North or South Nodes are not part of Yods. They are not a "thing" like a planet or asteroid, rather they are more like a "place" or a "direction".
As for aspects, start by looking at only conjunctions, squares, trines, sextiles and oppositions. These are the biggies, and the closer to exact they are the more powerful they are. Again the problem with astrology is information overload. It is like the weather report. Do you want to know every little change in the breeze in every location, or is it enough to understand that today is sunny at home but stormy at work?
People with lots of aspects in their charts have greater balancing acts, and often have fewer paths through the woods that really work for them. Others are jacks and jills of all trades, so to speak. There is no virtue to either, just the way it is, just your life's purpose. Again, we cannot tell soul advancement from someone's horoscope. Two babies, born in the same hospital at the same moment will have the same chart, but one may use his or her gifts and challenges to grow and create, while the other one may get stuck this life.
RedRose
Valkie
December 11th, 2003, 05:08 PM
The two planets making the sextile directs focused energy to the third planet. The house and the sign of that third planet will have a special, uneven energy.
Another way to start figuring out your chart is to take the tightest aspect, and go from there. Easiest if it involoves an inner/outer planet, say Moon/Juspiter.
An aspect to the AC can give you insight into how others perceive you, an aspect to the MC about how you will be perceived by the public, an aspect to the DSC about how you will perceive others, then the IC can show you your hidden depths....
Tightest you say?? Let's see... Pisces Moon in 9th trine Cancer asc @ 5 minutes apart, Aries Venus in 10th opposed Libra Pluto in 4th @ 4 minutes apart, and Aries Mars in 10th Trine to Leo Saturn in 2nd @ 7 minutes apart. Total major aspects that are 1 degree to 2 degrees-12... Major aspect that are 3-4 degrees apart-15. Even if I cut down what it is that I'm looking at to a 4 degree orb, I'm still looking at 27 major aspects. It still doesn't help much... :)
Valerie
moon-in-libra
December 12th, 2003, 06:59 AM
Yes, the planet quincunxed by the other two planets in sextile is the focal point of the yod. A very subtle aspect, different from a T-Cross, you almost always can feel those, even detect them in others often.
Redrose is right, a heavily aspected chart can be confusing. Thought the yods could clarify things for you, busy maps are hard to read, but they're still maps.
Okay, Cancer ASC, the ruling planet of your chart is the Moon. In Pisces, gives emotional sensitivity, gentleness, a romantic outlook. In the 9th, makes you more of a visionary, dreams can come true with this placement. Will build a philosophy of life after many varied experiences, will travel heavily
Cancer rising, imagination, hidden feelings of insecurity. Ties to the past, your mother, granparents. Guessing Aries is at your MC, with this sign on the ASC, usually brings contact with the public in the career.
Moon trines ASC, you''d wear your heart on your sleeve. Appearing dreamy to others, an ability to integrate the distant past and the distant future. Others may tend to underestimate you, you're at least well aware of how you're perceived by others.
The synthesis can be a problem even with this one aspect. What else does the Moon do? For example, if there's a soft aspect to Venus and/or Uranus, you'd have musical talent. A square to your Sun can make insecurity more of a problem.
Same thing with the Venus/Pluto oppsoition you mentiion, that can be unfavorable, but not always. Pluto in the 4th is interesting, there you have Pluto, the planet of the most invisible energy right at the midnight part of the chart. If Pluto here is afflicted to the Moon, there will have to be some kind of coming to terms with your past, you have a flair for real estate, by the way. If Pluto is badly aspected by Saturn, unresolved issues from early childhood that resurface. Does Venus and Pluto both square a third planet? If so, there's a T-Square at least.
Mars trine Saturn, high ambition, good work ethic, great judgement in business. Both in fire, gives energy and spark. Saturn in Leo in the 2nd is way weaker than Mars in Aries in the 10th, you'd hate being poor and have the focus to know and obtain exactly what you want. Matters greatly if Mars conjuncts Venus here, it would weaken Venus even more.
The yods, are they fused? If the Moon is invovled at all with the yods, it takes on even more significance. Also, running midpoints could help, look for any other big configurations, to be more specific here.
Valkie
December 14th, 2003, 12:04 AM
To clear up any confusion on the chart, here's the specs....
Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Taurus 20°41'19 11 direct
Moon Pisces 06°58'45 09 direct
Mercury Taurus 04°55'20 11 retrograde
Venus Aries 11°45'38 10 direct
Mars Aries 10°39'19 10 direct
Jupiter Gemini 08°07'27 12 direct
Saturn Leo 10°45'54 02 direct
Uranus Scorpio 09°17'32 05 retrograde
Neptune Sagittarius 15°25'25 06 retrograde
Pluto Libra 11°50'16 04 retrograde
True Node Libra 24°06'45 05 direct
House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 07°04'14
2nd House Cancer 26°17'09
3rd House Leo 17°16'29
Imum Coeli Virgo 13°32'00
5th House Libra 18°27'23
6th House Scorpio 29°55'29
Descendant Capricorn 07°04'14
8th House Capricorn 26°17'09
9th House Aquarius 17°16'29
Medium Coeli Pisces 13°32'00
11th House Aries 18°27'23
12th House Taurus 29°55'29
Major aspects
Moon Sextile Mercury 2°03
Moon Square Jupiter 1°09
Moon Trine Uranus 2°19
Moon Trine Ascendant 0°05
Mercury Square Saturn 5°51
Mercury Opposition Uranus 4°22
Mercury Sextile Ascendant 2°09
Venus Conjunction Mars 1°06
Venus Sextile Jupiter 3°38
Venus Trine Saturn 1°00
Venus Quincunx Uranus 2°28
Venus Trine Neptune 3°40
Venus Opposition Pluto 0°05
Venus Square Ascendant 4°41
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°32
Mars Trine Saturn 0°07
Mars Quincunx Uranus 1°22
Mars Trine Neptune 4°46
Mars Opposition Pluto 1°11
Mars Square Ascendant 3°35
Jupiter Sextile Saturn 2°38
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 1°10
Jupiter Trine Pluto 3°43
Saturn Square Uranus 1°28
Saturn Trine Neptune 4°40
Saturn Sextile Pluto 1°04
Uranus Trine Ascendant 2°13
Neptune Sextile Pluto 3°35
Pluto Square Ascendant 4°46
Notice: what ever planet you're looking at, the house ruler is different from what sign it is in. for the actual chart, Birth info is May 11, 1977 8:27am south stoughton, ma, usa.
Confusion?? I've got Grand Trines, T-squares, Kites, Mystic Rectangles, a Boomerang/Yod. I've got formations everywhere!!! If you want to add Transits into the picture, T. Neptune is fitting nicely into the empty spot in Aquarius to complete a Grand Sextile. I feel like an ant with a map of the city :rolleyes:
Valerie
moon-in-libra
December 16th, 2003, 07:56 AM
You really do have a busy chart there. Gemini is intercepted in the 1st too, do you feel the ramifications of that? That there was some sort of supression early in your life with communications? Just wondering, since Saturn is in the 2nd, and everything is so aspected except for the Sun, self-expression involoved?
Mars is the final dispositor, looks strong in fire, Aries is surprisngly strong.
The yods, Mars/Jupiter on Uraunus. Vemus/Jupiter on Uranus, difficult when Uranus is in the 5th and retrograde. The grand Trines, that Mystic Rectangle, everything else, a very complex chart, any transit changes just about everything.
Valkie
December 16th, 2003, 01:26 PM
I was the youngest of 5 kids and my oldest brother had an undiagnosed mental condition when I was younger, so he took most of the spotlight. so ya, you could say there was a problem with communication. I was very shy. Very introverted. tried to stay in the corners so no one would see me type thing. I didn't express myself at all and had very little self confidence as a child. I was chalking most of that up to the Cancer asc.
Looking at transits from when I did come out of my shell: T. Neptune in 7th square Mars and T. Saturn in 6th trine Mercury. When I came out, I came out with a bang. Went from taking everyone's crap to throwing it right back at them.
I'm not quiet sure how Jupiter's energy is coming out. With it being in detriment in Gemini and square to the Moon, I know that my life philosophies are very different from most people that I know.
Valerie
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