What are witch names?

[Sequoia]

I just had a quickie question. . . what is a Witch Name? I keep hearing about people mentioning this, but I don't know what it is. Also, does anyone know where there's a copy of the. .. rede? is that what it's called? I'm curious about it, since I keep hearing about it.

Thanks all!! ^_^

[eaglewolf]

Hello Puma Hime, and welcome to the boards...

A witch name, or magickal name, is the name given to someone, or in most cases made up by themselves, which can be used in rituals, on chat boards or just simply to keep their real name anonymous. Many people have magickal names, but it is not a prerequsite of being a "witch." It makes some people feel closer to nature or magic(k) or what ever... often times, it consists of names, places, animals etc. which the person feels a connection.

The "rede" is a peom written by a woman to express her particular view of her craft. The most popular and widely recognized version was written by Adrianna Porter. Somewhere along the line, many Wiccans adopted the poem as "Wiccan Law" but not all Wiccan recognize it as so...

Here is a link to the most commonly used version :

http://members.tripod.com/~jack0/art2.html

~ew

[Sequoia]

Thanks a lot!! ^_^ that helps

[Merrie]

Merry meet, Puma Hime. :D
The rede,in it's simplest form,is
"An it harm none, do what ye will"
And variations on that. I think, basically it means that you can do whatever makes you truly happy as long as you intentionally hurt no one, including yourself.

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Merrie
Merry meet, Puma Hime. :D
The rede,in it's simplest form,is
"An it harm none, do what ye will"
And variations on that. I think, basically it means that you can do whatever makes you truly happy as long as you intentionally hurt no one, including yourself.

Yes, Merrie, there are several versions of the Rede. One that I use is "An it harm non, do as thou wilt" - a more Celtic version but the same. In addition to others and self, the Harm none includes all of nature.

As for the names, Eaglewolf is right. Another method used is based on ones "Birth Number". For exsample; let's say you were born on 7-2-67, your birth number would be 4. To reach this sum simply add the numbers together as follows:

7+2+6+7=22 then 2+2 (the sum) =4 - keep reducing until you come to a single digit number.

I will have to find my chart but each letter in the alphabet equates to a number as well. I get's a little complicated at this point without my charts. Once I find them, I will finish this.

At least for now, you can figure out your birth number.

RnR

[Mairwen]

According to a book I read once, Jesus is a 4. :D

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Mairwen
According to a book I read once, Jesus is a 4. :D

Who was the one that made such an equation? I would be interested. I am that the number 4, that I used was purely co-inky-dink. Christmas is the assumed birthday for Jesus (12-25-00) which equates to 1.

Even if it where 12-25-01, that would make his birth number 2.

*hmmph* Like I said, very interesting. Does anyone know how the borth number of 4 was achieved?

RnR

[Mairwen]

Going by the letters of his name.

[eaglewolf]

...or perhaps by historical speculation that Christ was not born on December 25th(?)

~ew

[Mairwen]

The system of numerology I know goes by the letters of a person's name ~ not his birthdate. *Getting my book out to double-check* And egads, I was wrong. I'm sorry. Jesus Christ is a 9. :(


j e s u s
1 5 3 6 3 = 18 = 9

c h r i s t
3 5 2 1 3 4 = 18 = 9

9+9 = 18 = 9

[eaglewolf]

I dunno... I was never into numerology...

~ew

[Mairwen]

Then shaddup! 8O

[Mariposa De La Luna]

They may have come up with 4 from the Hebrew spelling of his name. In Hebrew every letter also stands for a number but I am not familiar with it so i don't know if there are any numerological explainations relating to the numbers.

[eaglewolf]

Now can you see why I was never into numerology?

Sheesh!

~ew

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by SAHM
They may have come up with 4 from the Hebrew spelling of his name. In Hebrew every letter also stands for a number but I am not familiar with it so i don't know if there are any numerological explainations relating to the numbers.

I double-checked Sahm. I was a victim of a faulty memory. Or a dyslexic faulty memory. 4's and 9's do look alike to my mind. :D

[Revelation]

That's interesting, except that Christ wasn't part of Jesus's name. It was his title. Kind of like Aunt Mary. He's Jesus the Christ.

SAHM you had a very good point about Hebrew letters also being numbers. a Very good point indeed.

[Mairwen]

However, Jesus Christ is the "common" name.

[Revelation]

I didn't realize numerology took into accounts what people call you. I thought it had more to do with what you were named at birth, or what you were named onc eyou got married, or changed your name, etc. Not just whatever monkier people happen to attach to you.

Interesting.

[Mairwen]

Give me a break will ya? How many people honestly know that the actual name of Jesus of Nazereth, Son of God, isn't Jesus Christ, but Jesus the Christ? Or are you just enjoying cutting me to pieces? It stopped being funny a long time ago.

[eaglewolf]

It is my understanding that "Jesus" was not his witch name anyhow... can we please get back to the topic of this thread...

"What are witch names?"

~ew

[Revelation]

Erm, why was this insulting to you? I said I didn't know numerology worked that way. I find it interesting.

[Mairwen]

Why? Because eerything I post, you have to tear down.

[Revelation]

Mairwen, I will PM you.

[Kaylara]

Ummm wasn't Jesus's real name Joshua? (Or something close to that?)

In that case, using the name Jesus, which meant the same thing as Christ as far as I know, doesn't work if you want to figure out his number...

Just my thoughts...

Kaylara

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by eaglewolf
... can we please get back to the topic of this thread...


Pretty Please!?!

[Mairwen]

FWIW, in our Tradition, we're not Witches; we're not Wiccan ~ but we are "of the Craft". Therefore, we have Craft Names. I think, though I may be wrong, because I am Wicca-Illiterate on most things, that Craft Name is the more common term?

Mairwen y Gwydd is my Craft Name. In the Gwyddoniad, we also have "Secret Names" ~ but only our Gods of Rapport, Tuatha Gods and ourselves know that name. The Secret Name is never revealed, even to other Tuatha Members, and it is never written.

[Mariposa De La Luna]

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[Revelation]

Kaylara you bring up an interesting point.

What language are we dealing with when we use numerology?

I believe his name was something along the lines of Yaheshua (which in English would translate to Joshua). I have no idea where the moniker Jesus comes from.

But its a good question. If we are dealing strictly with English names, that ones thing. But can numerology be applied equally well to other languages? And if so, how do we determine what language to use? Our birth language? the languages of our family? The language of our society?

Interesting thoughtts, Kaylara.

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Mairwen
I think, though I may be wrong, because I am Wicca-Illiterate on most things, that Craft Name is the more common term?


Absolutely... but you obviously got the idea, that is what matters... labels are like opinions (among other things), everybody has one but who cares?

~ew

[Mairwen]

;) I'm not an Elder Priestess for nothing.

[Sequoia]

my goodness!! hehe everyone's said so much! hmm. . . so with the numerology thing, how exactly WOULD you figure out your name? LOL maybe since eaglewolf is so annoyed 8O ( this is supposed to be about names. . . but if numerology is an aspect of those names. . . ^^; ) we should start a numerology thread?

. . . hehe I figured out how to use the smilies! :D 8O

whoah, Mairwen! A High Priestess? How'd you get to be that? . . . and. . er. . . what exactly does a High Priestess do?

^^;;

~Puma Hime

[Mairwen]

Blood sweat and tears. I'm not just HPs; I'm an Elder. :D

[rantnraven]

Originally posted by Mairwen
Blood sweat and tears. I'm not just HPs; I'm an Elder. :D

If you are an elder, my lady, what then am I?

Blessings, dearest Elder.
Rant

[rantnraven]

Some use the follow method for Witch names.

As I had said before, find you birth number by adding your birthdate as such: If yoy were born on 6/12/1985 you would add 6+1+2+1+9+8+5 = 32. Bring that to a single digit: 3+2=5. Your birth number would then be 5.

Then check the name you have chosen using the following:

A, J, S = 1
B, K, T = 2
C, L, U = 3
D, M, V = 4
E, N, W = 5
F, O, X = 6
G, P, Y = 7
H, Q, Z = 8
I, R = 9

Some of you have seen me sign "Thoma" to my posts. That is my Witch or, Spiritual name. My DOB is 5/24/1963 which equates to 3. Thoma also equates to 3. Here's how

T=2
H=8
O=6
M=4
A=1

So, 2+8+6+4+1 = 21. Bring that down to a single digit and 21 (2+1) comes to 3. Therefore, my name and birth number match.

Try THAT one out kids.

This is not "set in stone", your Witch name can be whatever pleases you. Mine is really nothing more then my Birth name (given by my parents) Thomas, without the "S"

Go to work. This is not easy.

Rant (which equates to 3 BTW)

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by rantnraven


If you are an elder, my lady, what then am I?




Two days older than baseball?

~ew

[Mariposa De La Luna]

Your witch name can also equal a number with qualities you would like to posess. Here's a numerology link:

http://www.astrology-numerology.com/

I found it while waiting for the Numerology teacher to come back.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by rantnraven
If you are an elder, my lady, what then am I?
Blessings, dearest Elder.
Rant

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[Rævyn Cigány]

Originally posted by Mairwen
Then shaddup! 8O

Now, now....LOL...play NICE children ;)

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BB

Rae )0(

[Eudaimonia]

I would like to add a bit to that... a name can be chosen by yourself, your coven, a person close to you, etc. etc. etc. Having a magickal name, however, does not make on a witch. Furthermore, if you as a person change, and no longer suit you name, you may change it. For example, mine used to be "Shimmer," but I quit practicing for a while. Now that I am... well, begining again, I've changed my name. Sometimes it's just the sound of the name, or perhaps it has special meaning for you.

[idusty88]

Originally posted by rantnraven
Christmas is the assumed birthday for Jesus (12-25-00) which equates to 1.

Even if it where 12-25-01, that would make his birth number 2.

Even if Jesus was born on Dec. 25, he wouldn't be born in the zero or '01 year, because the zero year is the year of his death. Not to mention six years that are out of whack due to some pope messing around with the calendar back around the twelfth century I think it was. And since the months were different back then, would our date be valid in any sense for his birthdate? Ain't this boogie a mess?