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[MystIc_WolF]

I can't stand people like this:

http://www6.aeonflux.net/~io/index.html

The Harry Potter novels are based on myths, legends, folklore, fantasy, and in general FICTION! People like this are the reason people like this are the reason others rarely take us seriously. I have no problem with the fact that the person believes that stuff, what pisses me off is that he portrays it as real stuff that all wiccans are taught and can do.

[Phoenix Blue]

Did you bother to read past the header of the site, or did you just see "Harry Potter" and "Witchcraft Spellbook" and stop there?

Look at some of the links the webmaster provided to some of the spells that are actually in the Harry Potter books. It's a pretty interesting read. . . it doesn't advocate creating a religion based upon Harry Potter, rather, it shows historical bases for some of what Rowling included in her work.

[Amethyst Rose]

I agree Phoenix... it is an interesting read and nothing what I expected from the title. For example, I was impressed with the research to explain how the "flying broomstick" idea originated, not to mention a link to "flying ointment".
Now, I'm not sure I agree with the author that Rowling actually did a lot of research into magic, etc. but then I didn't read through the entire site. I'm tempted to think that it was just luck that so many "fantasy" aspects of Harry Potter actually have some historic standing. :)

[Lanna]

yeah i have to agree with pheonix also.....its pretty much a "heres how JK ROwling got some of her ideas from myths and facts" site, well at least thats how i see it anyhow! I do belive that the creator of the site could perhaps give a better introduction and maybe a bit more genreal information to make that clearer. But i think for any HP fan, its an intresting insight into how and why! *shrug*

[MystIc_WolF]

Ok, I'd just like to make a HUGE apology here. I admit when I originally went to the site I only read the front page and one or two "spells". However I went back to the site a couple minutes ago and looked at some of the other stuff and a couple links, and I admit that really the webmaster presents some really good, well researched information. I guess it just goes to show that the old saying "you can't judge a book by its cover" is true. If the webmaster of that site is reading this, I would like to say that I apologise for any offense I may have caused by my earlier remarks, I just have a bad habit of passing judgement on something without really taking the time to look over it and form an educated opinion sometimes.

[Rain Gnosis]

If anything, the site seems to point out HP references some practices from witchcraft (not Wicca, but witchcraft) while debunking and explaining some of it - for instance, as AR mentioned, the "flying ointment". Some of it is even funny, ie.


The method of making a basilisk is deceptively simple; just find a spherical, yolk-less egg, laid during the days of Sirius, the Dog Star, by a 7-year-old rooster. Put the egg on a bed of dung, and find a fat black toad to warm and hatch it.

The toughest part would be finding a rooster who would conform to your wishes.

When was the last time you got a 7 year old rooster to lay an egg? :lol: It even mentions the hand of glory, that's kind of neat ;)

[indigo rain]

i saw this site quite a while ago, and i found it to be very interesting. i'm not sure whether i agree that j.k. rowling actually did research into magick, since most of the parallels between her work and historical spells, myths, etc... are mostly common knowledge. everyone knows basically what a wand, unicorn, phoenix, potion, etc... is even if they're not a witch... but it is an interesting theory.

[Ben Trismegistus]

Cool site!

From the time I realized that Nicholas Flamel (http://www.alchemylab.com/flamel.htm) was a real 14th-15th century alchemist, I realized that Rowling had really done her homework before writing the HP books. Yes, it's fiction, but she's gone to the effort of basing a lot of her magical teachings on existing witchcraft and Ceremonial Magician works.

This site appears to be very well researched. I especially like the excerpts from A.E. Waite and Eliphas Levi.

[mol]

The Harry Potter novels are based on myths, legends, folklore, fantasy, and in general FICTION! People like this are the reason people like this are the reason others rarely take us seriously. I have no problem with the fact that the person believes that stuff, what pisses me off is that he portrays it as real stuff that all wiccans are taught and can do.
I know you have already apologized and we have dropped the original subject of the thread for obvious reasons, but after looking through that whole front page, nowhere does it mention Wicca. It is interesting to me that upon seeing the word Witchcraft or magic, etc you automatically assume it is Wiccan or at least you assumed it was talking about the Wiccan path?

Again, no flame intended. I just found it interesting.

[MystIc_WolF]

I guess part of what might have confused people is that I sometimes use wicca and witchcraft interchangeably. However I am glad that my overzealous post has brought about such an interesting discussion. I might just have to dig a little deeper into some of this stuff.

[Marchosias]

Any information given on this website is intended to be taken as a historical essay, for entertainment value only. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. I take no responsibility whatsoever for those who ignore this advice

At the bottom of the main page.

[Ceallach]

If a person simply looks up "witchcraft" on the Internet, in hopes of collecting useful information, something entirely different will surface. There's a new religion called "Wicca" with a few thousand self-declared "witches" as followers -- although they insist that they do not have any amazing magical powers, and, indeed, will laugh at anyone who believes in such nonsense. Their brand of "magic" is entirely different than the type presented on my page and in Harry Potter. A curious child who stumbles on to Wicca will probably get bored with it rather quickly.

And finally, you will notice that some of the spells require smearing the skin with oils or burning certain plants. In fact, some of these substances are narcotic. In turn, we may assume that a lot of the "magic" of the past was actually hallucinated, and not really magic at all. It's dangerous; kids, don't try this at home. (DRUGS ARE BAD. JUST SAY NO!)

I guess he doesn't like Wiccans. That and I don't think he looked into it all that much before making a judgement. I found this under the parental warning link found near the bottom of the first page.

Cool stuff on the site, though.

[Rain Gnosis]

Oh I dunno, I didn't get that he doesn't like Wiccans from that, just that he's very clear he wasn't writing about Wicca and that Wicca isn't about fantasy.

[Gently Gazing Eyes]

I can't stand people like this:

http://www6.aeonflux.net/~io/index.html

The Harry Potter novels are based on myths, legends, folklore, fantasy, and in general FICTION! People like this are the reason people like this are the reason others rarely take us seriously. I have no problem with the fact that the person believes that stuff, what pisses me off is that he portrays it as real stuff that all wiccans are taught and can do.

Without even looking at the site, I would remind you that most neopagan paths are based, at least in part, on mythos, folklore and the like. The only thing seperating the prophet from the novelist is the name, when there is no 'definitive' proof in either way.

[SylverStar]

This site was very interesting. I was actually suprised by some of the stuff on it. I'm not sure about Rowling being that researched in the field of witchcraft. I have corrected my Harry Potter fanatical friend a couple of times about some of the stuff Rowling writes.