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wicca chick
October 23rd, 2003, 09:13 PM
i know this has nothing to do with wicca bnut i just needed someone to talk to . because sometimes i just want to give it all up . don't you hate friends who dict you for someone they sworwe never to talk to again well that happen to me so i just wanted to say that seeya shelly

WandererInGray
October 23rd, 2003, 09:15 PM
*smiles* This is the chatty area, don't really have to post just about Wicca.

*hugs* Yeah that sucks when people act like dorks. Hopefully they'll snap to their senses at some point.

Flar's Freyja
October 23rd, 2003, 09:19 PM
(((Hugs)))

And if you really feel like you want to give it all up - you'll seek help outside of here, right? There are many good folks here who will listen, okay? So don't hesitate to share your hurt, pain and joy. We wanna hear it all.

Ahautenites
October 23rd, 2003, 09:21 PM
My mother always told me that almost nothing in life is so bad that you should kill yourself over it.

I suffer from depression, and it screams at me to just kill myself to get out of the emotional mess I'm in nearly every day. But I don't do it because of what my mother said.

You have everyone here to talk to. No one here is going to go out of their way to hurt you. We're all here to listen and to give hugs.

As to friends who *do* deliberately hurt you.... maybe they aren't really your friends. They aren't worth half as much as you are, so you shouldn't be willing to sacrifice yourself just because these people hurt you. There's just too much of life left. I didn't meet my dearest friends until I was 24 years old.

Jenne
October 23rd, 2003, 09:24 PM
Hugs--and please think carefully before you would harm yourself. Whoever they are, they aren't worth your life, believe me.

You need to ground yourself, and take some deep breaths. We're all here for you--feel free to pm me anytime. Relationships are kooky things--they can make or break our day!

:hugz:

Kalika
October 23rd, 2003, 09:32 PM
*hugs*

Hon, if they ditch you for someone else... then they aren't worth the time in the first place.

The people here are here for you any time you want to talk.

NOTHING is worth giving everything up for. I hope that you come to that conclusion. There will be grey days... and black days even... but you have to be stronger than that.

Show whoever hurts you that you are better than they are. That no matter what, you are who you are, and that you can and will bounce back.

Anytime you need an ear... kalika1981@hotmail.com



Blessed Be,

Old Witch
October 23rd, 2003, 10:05 PM
i know this has nothing to do with wicca bnut i just needed someone to talk to . because sometimes i just want to give it all up . don't you hate friends who dict you for someone they sworwe never to talk to again well that happen to me so i just wanted to say that seeya shelly

Sweetie, my father committed suicide 12 days ago......All I have to say is think about the ones you will leave behind..........You will leave them in a living hell.........

I'll listen to anything you have to say, any time.....just pm me.........

Oneira
October 23rd, 2003, 10:08 PM
I used to ask myself why bother? I used to think that life was just an intermission between birth and death, and I had enough popcorn. But you know, Hades doesn't want me to die with sadness inside. He wants me to live happily, and I have to seek my road to happiness.

I have all of these bad memories that I repress, bad memories of two-faced people that didn't respect me. Sometimes I feel so alone. But you know, there's always someone there, be it my gods, or just a friend that I'm not hearing. It's easy to not feel the love from caring people around you, when the world feels so seperate.

I find that with time, however, the bad does disapear. I hope that whatever has made your day so lonely and sorrowful passes.

Hawk Shadowsoul
October 23rd, 2003, 10:10 PM
That would be such a permenant soultion to such a temporary problem. We all suffered and cried with our friend Old Witch. You listen to what she says to you.

midnightreflections
October 24th, 2003, 06:16 AM
I've been there myself and i know what its like to want to give up on life.

Life isn't easy, and there are a lot of people who are false friends out there.

However everything happens for a reason and the chances are if you can make it through the darkest times you'll find something in life that is fantastic that you wouldn't have found otherwise.

My depression changed the course of my life...and still influances my life in a very positive way.

The hurt and the pain your feeling will ease eventually, and the lessons you are learning can if you will let them be of great use to you in the future.

Remember life is a journey not a destination

LadyOak
October 24th, 2003, 06:36 AM
That would be such a permenant soultion to such a temporary problem.

Also the world would be missing another valuable person....

SnowyMoon
October 24th, 2003, 06:39 AM
Random thoughts from my brain: Why do so many people seem so phony and shallow now-a-days? Why is there such a lack of truth, love, honesty and respect? Why does it seem that people in general do not WANT close relationships with anyone anymore, and it seems at times that no one trusts anyone, and everyone is out for themselves, going for each other's throats. Why do people value money, possesions and fake beauty over individualism and character moral values? Am I the only one like me? Why am I so different? Why can't I fit in?

I too have suffered from depression. It is hard. I have my ups and downs. I know personally part of my problem is I have, and have had, very high expectations, and I get disappointed very easily. I have learned I have to find my happiness alone. I don't expect much from any one anymore. I just don't understand people. I had a very different childhood, so I think that makes me think and feel very different from the "norm." I just keep being who I am because it is the only way to be. I refuse to give up hope that I am totally alone. I hold on to that. :). Some day I may have the joy of spending time with a like-minded individual who really enjoys my company just because I am who I am. That keeps me hopeful. ;). Never know. Tomorrow may be the day it changes. :). For now, I find escape when I am figure-skating.

Blessings

nomadicdragon
October 24th, 2003, 06:41 AM
i know this has nothing to do with wicca bnut i just needed someone to talk to . because sometimes i just want to give it all up . don't you hate friends who dict you for someone they sworwe never to talk to again well that happen to me so i just wanted to say that seeya shelly


((hugs)) That sucks sweetie.. We're always here to talk to... feel free to PM me if you want a listening ear

nomadicdragon
October 24th, 2003, 06:43 AM
You know. I've tried to kill myself a couple times during my life. And just seeing how my close friends reacted knowing that I had tried, how upset they were and how horrible they felt. I stopped trying. sometimes it helps to just talk about those feelings with someone... and on MW you have plenty of true friends here who will listen. :hugz:

FaerieGothMommy
October 24th, 2003, 06:45 AM
I used to ask myself why bother? I used to think that life was just an intermission between birth and death, and I had enough popcorn. But you know, Hades doesn't want me to die with sadness inside. He wants me to live happily, and I have to seek my road to happiness.

I have all of these bad memories that I repress, bad memories of two-faced people that didn't respect me. Sometimes I feel so alone. But you know, there's always someone there, be it my gods, or just a friend that I'm not hearing. It's easy to not feel the love from caring people around you, when the world feels so seperate.

I find that with time, however, the bad does disapear. I hope that whatever has made your day so lonely and sorrowful passes.

That is so so true!

I've been in situations before, where i felt like i couldn't go on!
But you know what i do... I will ask the gods & goddesses OR people who have passed over to help me through the hard times in life!

You shouldn't even be thinking about taking your own life, for so-called friends who have upset you! There will be alot of people in your life who will upset you, but there will also be people who love you, deeply! And by taking your own life, it will leave the ones who do truly love you, alone!
I always think, if you consider taking your life, you are being selfish. You are not thinking about those around you, who really do care!

Since i started Tarot, i have a whole new perspective on life. I now understand there will be people who are so unbelievably nasty, it's un-thinkable! And, it's funny to think, that reading some cards can change a persons life, dramatically!
The point in me saying this, is you should go and find genuine people... people who really do care, and find something you can stick to with a passion!

Friends who will leave you,back-stab you and so on... are not friends, they say they are, but they are not! Find other people, and don't end your life (like somebody else phrased it) on such a temporary problem.

My blessings & energy are being sent your way!

HUGS
*FGM*

gyroWang
October 24th, 2003, 08:25 AM
Sorry you feel so bad.
I've been there myself and I know how it feels.
I also know that theres lots of help available so if you are in desperate need try one of the local crisis lines or samaritans or something (not sure what organisations are in your area but there are bound to be some).
Theres also online organisation that offer support. *hugs*

Xentor
October 26th, 2003, 07:58 PM
I take life at a day's value. I've had enough grief for one lifetime. If people intentionally hurt me, they're not my friends. I'm very capable of living my life without any more backstabbing.

As such, I look for friends and socialise. I live my life intensely and try to pay close attention. I don't get depressed anymore. Instead, I do something that works on my body and emotions instead of on my thoughts, like playing music, excercise or watching television. Literally, to get my mind off of things. I appreciate those moments, and use them to cope with bad situations.

There are some things worth to give your life for, but nothing is worth taking it.

Xentor
November 1st, 2003, 05:41 PM
So, what's up, Wicca Chick?

FaerySong
November 1st, 2003, 07:54 PM
Ok sorry in advance if I sound unsympathetic. but-

If you are suicidal just because some people you might not talk to in a few years time leave you, I think you need to get your priorities straightened. If ending it all just because you're not talking to these people, sounds more like attention grabbing to me.

Now, I understand the feeling of just giving it up. I've felt that way alot. But really, you just have to think on whats causing it.

Sorry you feel like shit, but that really doesn't sound like a reasion for suicide. All I can say, even if everyone is going to call me a little bitch, is suck it up and make new friends. If they leave you at a drop of a hat, they aren't your friends.

She-Arna
November 1st, 2003, 08:38 PM
I kind of have to agree with FaerySong that if these friends treat you like shit, they're not friends.

I know it hurts but you can get through it I promise. You may even find some better friends.

MetalliKat05
November 2nd, 2003, 05:28 AM
I've been dealing with depression for the better part of 15 months.
The only way that I can convince myself not to kill myself is..
It is the single most selfish thing you could do...

I know that sounds bad... but really.

I am okay now... and you will be, too. You need to know that it is never worth it. I tell myself that my thoughts aren't even really meaning anthing. You'll be okay eventually... I know that "eventually" is a sucky word to use, and let me tell you, patience isn't one of my better virtues, but it worked.

Things will be a lot better. Trust me. I've come out all right.

Let's put it this way... The water is flowing through the hose... The water is turned on, but there are still kinks in the way, but those are easily taken care of with time.

gyroWang
November 2nd, 2003, 09:39 AM
Maybe you should think of getting treatment.
If you broke your leg you wouldnt just leave it there to heal by itself.
Having said that, getting treatment for head stuff IS difficult, it may help to write your doctor a letter and hand it to him/her rather than talk about it.

Raven7
November 2nd, 2003, 01:13 PM
"I kind of have to agree with FaerySong that if these friends treat you like shit, they're not friends."

I have to agree... So what if so and so doesnt talk to you/call anymore/doesnt want to hang etc etc?! Is it really such a big loss in the first place? Ppl like that arent worth the time or energy it takes to be their friend in the first place...save your energy for you and making your life worthwhile and right.....piss on everyone else (rudeness!sorry)! Yes it is harsh and trust me I KNOW harsh! but seriously....is it worth it? are these goofs worth it? hell no!

"I've been dealing with depression for the better part of 15 months.
The only way that I can convince myself not to kill myself is..
It is the single most selfish thing you could do...

I know that sounds bad... but really."

I suffer from Chronic PTSD (which is a whole bunch of things rolled into one basically) and have been for the better part of about 18+ yrs now, I have had a crappy life but never ever would I pull stunts like that again (yes I have in the past the, last and final time being the most serious and 4 yrs ago)...its not worth it (mind you I have 2 kids to worry and they've been through enough in their little lives from losing their brother to recently losing their father to suicide - so they keep me level in a big way)....stepping up to the plate and being solid (meaning not letting goofs like that gt you down), takin care of you and being a good person is all thats needed in life..piss on everyone else! (sorry rudeness there) Venting, leaning on the ppl who are there for you and are REAL to you (hard to find but they do exsist *sp*) is good too...start and anger journal, meditate, do yoga, etc etc etc....do anything that will relieve some of the pain and hurt, do everything that will show you the beauty of just BEING, living, existing etc.....

Just my take...sorry if it sounds rude and mean but you know what, sometimes thats the ONLY way to get it in there!
Take care of you always

Rave

Cerulean
November 3rd, 2003, 11:43 PM
If you kill yourself, what if something bad happens to your enemies later and you aren't there to enjoy it?

What if you kill yourself, and things take a turn for the better later. Won't you feel foolish then, huh?

Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.