Dragons!

[Autumn Clair]

I would like some help from others believing in dragons. MOL would like some proof they once existed. Do some research and get back to us on what you find. Good luck with the research.

[mol]

I would like some help from others believing in dragons. MOL would like some proof they once existed. Do some research and get back to us on what you find. Good luck with the research.
This was the original intention of my thread.

[Ahautenites]

How do we really know for sure that there wasn't some dinosaur out there that could have had a projectile spit mechanism, where the acidity of the saliva was such that it could have set fire to things?

[Autumn Clair]

This was the original intention of my thread.

I found a site of interest MOL , Draconology the man is 98 years old and my reading was interesting. So interesting I plan to connect Dr Kapusianyk.

http://www.colba.net/~tempest1/Draconology/

or search Dragons

go to heading : Dragons Home Page Created: 29/8/97

Let me know what you think MOL :huddle: :hailmol: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise:

[mol]

There is nothing there except for some words about a man who had written a book about dragons. :)

[mol]

I found this excerpt and I, well...I am, uh...speechless.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/shalimar/1152/foreword.html

[Autumn Clair]

I found this excerpt and I, well...I am, uh...speechless.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/shalimar/1152/foreword.html


Did you go to the main page. The site address doesn't take you to the main page.
You'll find dragon science
introduction to dragons
advanced dragon description [that's the interesting stuff]

http://www.colba.net/~tempest1/Basic/

http://www.colba.net/~tempest1/From_tail_to_snout/


I'll check your link out.

[mol]

I dont understand where his information is coming from.

[Autumn Clair]

I found this excerpt and I, well...I am, uh...speechless.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/shalimar/1152/foreword.html


That's the guy in my site MOL. Thanks for the other site though, it's linked right to him.
What do you think not proof per-say but he's the closest one to it.

[mol]

That's the guy in my site MOL. Thanks for the other site though, it's linked right to him.
What do you think not proof per-say but he's the closest one to it.
All he is really doing is proliferating the myth in a different way.

[Autumn Clair]

I dont understand where his information is coming from.

That's why I plan to get in touch with him to find out just where he's getting his information from. He's 98 so I better not linger. In the site I found he actually believed he saw a dragon in Nebraska when he was a little boy at some animal fair but they called it a flying serpent.

[mol]

That's why I plan to get in touch with him to find out just where he's getting his information from. He's 98 so I better not linger. In the site I found he actually believed he saw a dragon in Nebraska when he was a little boy at some animal fair but they called it a flying serpent.
He said, she said...:D

[WandererInGray]

*nods* Interesting theory....and I have to say one of the better on the physiology of Dragons. But...*shrugs*...still a theory all the same and not really proof.

:) I don't know that I really need proof though, to tell me something exists.

[Autumn Clair]

*nods* Interesting theory....and I have to say one of the better on the physiology of Dragons. But...*shrugs*...still a theory all the same and not really proof.

:) I don't know that I really need proof though, to tell me something exists.

Your right it's not proof. Who knows if we'll ever find it. Dr. Kapusianyk is 98 and he's been looking a while now but his theories are good for thought. I believe they exist, in the days to come maybe MOL won't need proof or find it.

Anyone else do any research on Dragons? What did you come up with? Let MOL know... :huddle:
:chatty:
:huh: :huh: :huh:
:fphone

[mol]

I don't know that I really need proof though, to tell me something exists.
I do!

[mothwench]

this might be a little off topic, but i'm just trying to get you to maybe put less faith in modern science:
bumblebees: scientists do not know why or how these creatures can fly. according to the laws of physics, it's impossible. they're too heavy.
what made me think of that was reading the bit where it says no reptilian animal could fly and breathe fire. (mol's link)

[cloud]

this might be a little off topic, but i'm just trying to get you to maybe put less faith in modern science:
bumblebees: scientists do not know why or how these creatures can fly. according to the laws of physics, it's impossible. they're too heavy.
what made me think of that was reading the bit where it says no reptilian animal could fly and breathe fire. (mol's link)
well well, that does make a very nice arguement. modern science seems to have trouble explaining quite a few things..

[mol]

this might be a little off topic, but i'm just trying to get you to maybe put less faith in modern science:
bumblebees: scientists do not know why or how these creatures can fly. according to the laws of physics, it's impossible. they're too heavy.
what made me think of that was reading the bit where it says no reptilian animal could fly and breathe fire. (mol's link)
Of course they dont know how these creatures can fly. They dont even have proof that they ever really existed.

[mothwench]

Of course they dont know how these creatures can fly. They dont even have proof that they ever really existed.

bumblebees? :hehehehe: *runs for cover*

[mol]

bumblebees? :hehehehe: *runs for cover*
Bumblebees?

[mothwench]

Bumblebees?

:wtf: yer only excused cause your head is open. j/k ;) read my post again.

[mol]

Autumn Claire was trying to find this thread. Hehe. How things change. I don't need proof anymore, folks.

[Nantonos]

bumblebees: scientists do not know why or how these creatures can fly. according to the laws of physics, it's impossible. they're too heavy.
Thats folklore. A fixed-wing airplane the size, shape and weight of a bee could not fly.

However, this is only a problem if you model them as aeroplanes (or birds). Its a classic engineering student dilema -a bit of misdirection and all the students end up confidently proving things they know are incorrect.

Apparently you have to model them as helicopters.
http://www.jimloy.com/physics/bee.htm (http://www.jimloy.com/physics/bee.htm)

[mothwench]

well, i read it in the "little handbook of completely useless knowledge", i don't know how accurate that book is, i think it's more for enternainment than anything else. :)

but it's besides the point saying that only when they are modeled as airplanes they couldn't fly, cause dragons aren't modeled as airplanes either. so there. :nyah:

[Dave the Druid]

If I might ask; why post that question here with the Druids?

[Nantonos]

If I might ask; why post that question here with the Druids?
Well, you know, druids, stonehenge, sacrificing maidens - perhaps the maidens were rescued from a dragon first? After all there are no written records so anything could be true, right?

ducks and runs.

I suggest that Magical Creatures and Familiars
http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162 (http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162)

might be a suitable spot for some freindly admin to shunt it into.

[Druchii]

I found a site of interest MOL , Draconology the man is 98 years old and my reading was interesting. So interesting I plan to connect Dr Kapusianyk.

http://www.colba.net/~tempest1/Draconology/

or search Dragons

go to heading : Dragons Home Page Created: 29/8/97

Let me know what you think MOL :huddle: :hailmol: :fpraise: :fpraise: :fpraise:



He passed away a few years ago. All he got out was that introduction to his unwritten book, that he had originally submitted to InQuest and Dragon magazine.

[Druchii]

Anyone else do any research on Dragons? What did you come up with? Let MOL know... :huddle:
:chatty:
:huh: :huh: :huh:
:fphone


Alla da time... :lol:

[Dave the Druid]

Well, you know, druids, stonehenge, sacrificing maidens - perhaps the maidens were rescued from a dragon first? After all there are no written records so anything could be true, right?

ducks and runs.

I suggest that Magical Creatures and Familiars
http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162 (http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162)

might be a suitable spot for some freindly admin to shunt it into.

Yeah, alright.

I just thought of it being a little odd. Yes, even I have dragons in my pantheon but as to physical evidence I am at a bit of a loss. Though there was a special on sometime ago about the origins of dragons in greek(?) mythos and the find of decent fossil bed on one of the islands.

Did you see my post about proto-Druids? I want your take as well.

[Xentor]

I suggest that Magical Creatures and Familiars http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162 (http://www.mysticwicks.com/forumdisplay.php?f=162) might be a suitable spot for some freindly admin to shunt it into.

;) Thread moved and retitled to "Dragons!"

[Silvan]

I found this excerpt and I, well...I am, uh...speechless.

http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/shalimar/1152/foreword.html

"jagged nugget of iron, coalesced
from iron in the dragon's bloodstream, hung suspended with pieces of flint, which the dragon
ingested as needed. When the dragon exhaled methane, the iron and flint tumbled around,
generating sparks, which ignited the gas."

Nah. I'd want to see some pretty conclusive evident supporting this assertion. It would be a lot easier to swallow if the critters had used some sort of bio-electric spark generator. Presumably the insides of this, well, call it a crop or a gizzard, where these rocks were tumbling around would be at least somewhat moist and humid. Anyone who's ever tried to light a wet lighter can confirm that flint and steel don't work worth a damn when even the slightest bit of moisture is present. So this is pretty thin.

If I were designing a dragon, I could do better. Something bio-electric, or maybe even piezoelectric. Or hey, there's always magic.