Scorpionic Deep Waters

[RedRose]

Here is a thread to discuss you O-so-passionate and mysterious Scorpios.

RedRose

Dear DragonGreenEyes,

You have a very cuspy Sun in two ways. You are actually a Scorpio/Libra and this cuspy Sun of yours is right on the cusp of your 10th and 11th House. It is conjunct Scorpio Mercury in the 11th and Pluto is also Scorpio and in the 11th, as well as Scorpio Venus! So you do have LOTS of Scorpio passion and depth, but your Sun is lightened by lovely Libra as well.

All this makes you very passionate about bringing in the new paradigm (the Age of Aquarius) and you are bound to be happiest at a career where you know you are in some way making this planet a better place. Friends and community are deeply important to you as well. With your Scorpio Sun also being Libra in quality, you are not as much a brooding loner as many Scorpios are.

Your North Node (which shows your soul's purpose this life is also cuspy (Pisces/Aries) in the 3rd House. This is trippy because you must both individuate AND transcend your ego this life, and communcate about it as you go along!

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http://members.aol.com/terriastro/nodes.htm

NN in 3rd House
Yours is the path of information gathering and sharing. You want to cultivate curiosity and probe the world for more information, verbally or intellectually. Learning to really listen to others can be a challenge. You do not fare well when you follow blindly. The more experiences you are open to, the better. Deal squarely with life in the here and now.

NN Pisce

Yours is the path of ego-transcendence. You are experiencing consciousness itself - the mind/ego observing the world. You are letting go of the contents of consciousness - the worries and theories and noise that fill the mind. Cultivate your dreams and imagination. Your inner world is as real and solid as the outer world. Cultivate compassion and the appreciation of the perfection in imperfection.

NN Aries

Yours is the path of courageous independence and the establishment of your individuation. This lifetime, too much relational dependencies or compromising of self lead to sorrow. You are experiencing personal power this lifetime, and must not relinquish your individuality and authority to others.

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As a general thing, your family, your home and homelife are a real source of power and blessing for you. (4th House Jupiter in Aries)

Mars in Libra on your MidHeaven means you actually enjoy and get energised by being in the limelight. You may well be, or become, famous this life, certainly you should throw yourself into the spotlight whenever possible. Since your Mars is in Libra, justice, harmony, beauty and balance is probably your main agenda and message.

You find God(dess) deep inside you and have a strong guardian angel or spirit at work in your life.

But the most amazing thing about your chart is that you have Saturn, Moon and Uranus all conjunct your Rising! Holy, holy, mercy, mercy!

Try doing a Google Search on each of the following:

Moon conjunct Ascendant
Moon Conjunct Uranus
Moon conjunct Saturn
Saturn conjunct Uranus
Saturn conjunct Ascendant
Uranus conjunct Ascendent
Ascendant in Sag.
Moon in Sag.
Uranus in Sag.
Saturn in Sag.
Saturn in 12th
Uranus in 1st

...and then merge all those interpretations together!

In a nutshell, to the best of my abilities. With a Sagittarius Ascendant, you are here to bring a higher teaching or wisdom, or methodology to Earth. It means everything to you, your heart is completely in it and you take it personally, for better or worse. It is a serious and important message or teaching or philosophy and it requires discipline from you and probably others. It is an unusual and transformative teaching.

Again paradigm shifting seems to be your grand purpose this life according to your scope.

RedRose

[bellamandu]

.............(s l o w l y taking all this in)

is it just me or doesn anyone else feel like someone is about ot bust in my door and proclaim me as the new buddah?

(still taking this in)


"Again paradigm shifting seems to be your grand purpose this life according to your scope."
.........(confused) paradigm shifting...... im not very good with long words, can you elaborate?

"But the most amazing thing about your chart is that you have Saturn, Moon and Uranus all conjunct your Rising! Holy, holy, mercy, mercy! "
....i am guessing this is very rare? whats so amazing about this exactly?


<----------(loving all this info!)


Thanks for all this! :)

[RedRose]

Dear DragonGreenEyes,

Hey, everyone is the Buddha. Everyone has a purpose too, but not everyone has such a specific purpose. Unfortunately I can't tell you exactily what that purpose is but it involves, as I mentioned, some higher teaching, or technology, or methodology, or philosophy, or maybe art or music you must share with the world. It is revolutionary and it takes discipline and training (either from you or those receiving your gift, or both). It engages your heart totally.

So having so many powerful planets conjunct your Rising makes you a specialist, and in some sense just being yourself is all that is required. You were born to bring this gift in whatver it is, because everything is conjunct your Ascendant, which sets the grid for your whole chart, that is, life.

For years my Libra daughter, who I have mentioned elsewhere, (who is a lawyer but also a great astrologer), and I figured that my second daughter was simply someone for whom astrology didn't apply. She has 7 planets in her 9th House in Virgo, including her Sun and North Node . I mention her because the 9th House is ruled by Sagittariius; that is, it indicates higher mind, higher education, art, religion, philosophy and academic pursuits. But she wasn't interested in books and learning and instead of being a neat freak like Virgo Sun folk almost always are, she was a messy kid. She simply didn't act like your typical Virgo Sun, much less Virgo Sun and Virgo everything else as well.

Then after flunking out of High School (something Virgos much less Virgos with lots of Sagittarius energy never do), she worked for a couple years as a waitress and on the first day she could legally take the GED she did so (without mentioning this to any of us and without studying a bit) and she aced it. Next thing we know she is enrolled in a university and taking art classes. Next thing we know she is, age 23, and she is mounting her first major gallery show in a major city!

Ah Hah! Finally her scope made sense to us. She is an artist and how! And the kind of art she does is way anal-Virgo stuff; for instance she glues thousands of little itty bitty things together into these incredible creations.

That is what I mean by being a specialist. Hope this helps.

RedRose

[SylverStar]

Scorpio's, Scorpio's how I adore thee. But what's the deal. Ok I'm just being weird in the Scorpio thread because my roomie and our two friends are Scorpio's and I feel I'm surrounded by them. Ok really don't mind me. :p

[Kadynas]

My fiance is a Scorpio... let's just say that all the good things you hear about them are true! :lol:

[RedRose]

Dear Sylverstar and Kadynas,

I love intensity myself, so Scorpios are great. They have a well deserve reputation for their sexual intensity, but Taurus energy is pretty sexy too. Someone with a lot of Taurus in his or her chart can simply stay in bed longer than any other sign! And they are cozier than many Scorpios, of course.

The down side to Scorpios is cynicism. They are usually very smart and they have lots of emotions, but they tend to keep them secret and a bit bottled up. Scorpios can go to the darkside, get way serious about it - as distinct from just messing up and/or getting completely overwhelmed and thus making ethical mistakes like most of the rest of us. They say that Scorpios are very powerful at the 2nd chakra (sexually) and at the 6th chakra (3rd eye) but to pull off their higher purpose, they must learn to open their hearts. When they do, they are SO awesome; hard to even talk about.

Deep, deep waters. Primal power.

RedRose

[Kadynas]

My Scorp's got a Taurus moon... best of best world's!

He really is a pessimist though... whereas I tend to look on the bright side, he'd rather expect things to go badly and then be pleasantly surprised if they go well! :) Secrecy is definitely a big thing too... one of the reasons my fiance said he really loves me is that I'm the only one he can tell everything to. I don't see a love of revenge in him though... he'd rather turn tthe other cheek, so to speak. But my ex-boyfriend Scorpio with Aries Moon, was a total bastard! Spooky too, he was more obsessed with me than anything else and sometimes I still think he's stalking me... :ghost:

[SylverStar]

Hmm. Secretive yep. Damn Scorpios not an easy puzzle to solve. My roomie hates me (not really). I've got a prying little mind but alas I can't seem to figure out my roomie, when I think I have something figured out I get no reaction from him. Damn secrets. He is much better at figuring how I ticked. When I was trying to figure out my ascendent. I hoped and thought I had a Scorpio asc. The whole intensity, passion thingy they have is characteristics I would like to posses. Plus having the curiousity and detective mind of an Aquarius I use to compare that with Scorpio's which is way different.

[RedRose]

Dear Puma,

Hmmm....Sun conjunct Saturn in Scorpio, Leo Moon in the 11th House and Virgo Rising.

Puma, you are a very serious person, but you have a showboater Moon. You love to perform, are probably a great public speaker, especially when you have a worthy cause to promote. You are a warm and generous friend. Meanwhile:

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Virgo Rising:
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/aspects-venus.html

With Virgo on the rise, you possess a mental acumen expressed in everyday practical affairs. Analytical and methodical in everything you do, you are very systematic in developing ideas and seeing projects through to completion. You are careful to notice details. So much so there is rarely a flaw in anything you do. Your mind is the epitome of neatness and order, absorbing facts and tidbits like a squirrel storing away nuts for the winter. You are a master at handling all the boring nit-picking matters others want to avoid. There is a tendency for you to become something of a workaholic, going over the same ground to be sure you haven't missed anything. You probably are a list-maker, wanting to have everything you need at hand. Everything should have a place and everything should be in its place for you to be comfortable.

And Sun conjunct Saturn:

The conjunction of the Sun and Saturn produces self-control and reserve, irrespective of other indications in your chart. The characteristics of the Sun are restrained, becoming less enthusiastic, more cautious. There may be many limitations and a need for discipline in the life, but the aspect provides a much greater inner strength and persistence. You are a hard worker, a disciplinarian, and an organizer. Because of these traits you are likely to be handed heavy responsibilities. Your strong personality goes its own way, despite the feelings of others. You matured at an early age, and your formative years may have been difficult.

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Now this Saturn/Sun in Scorpio is in your 3rd House, so you need to teach and communicate this life. Having a Leo Moon will help this, of course.

With Pluto in Scorpio in the 2nd House you are pretty driven to succeed financially as well.

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Pluto in Second House:
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/aspects-venus.html

Pluto positioned in the second house results in an enhancement of any drive you may have for acquiring material resources. You are resourceful in making money, often perceiving hidden opportunities others may overlook.

As far as your soul's agenda this life, you need to develop self confidence and faith. Can't figure faith out either. It doesn't work that way.

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NN in Taurus:
http://members.aol.com/terriastro/nodes.htm

Yours is the path of the builder and your goal is that of abiding inner peace and security that are derived from valuing the self. Seeking self-worth "out there" brings sorrow - the completeness you seek can only come from a meaningful relationship with your self and the natural world. The only person you need to prove yourself to is yourself.

NN in 9th House:

Your is the path of cultivating faith, pursuing spiritual understanding and trusting your intuition. You have a direct line to Spirit - learn to trust that. When you put logical analysis to work, you get trapped in indecisiveness. Seek adventure, liberation, and Higher Understanding. Cultivate directness in your communication with others.

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You have a wonderful conjunction in your 4th House of home and hearth, cusp Sagittarius and Capricorn which helps you with faith and connection to spirit. You also have Jupiter in your 4th House, which all means that your home is a place of great spiritual blessing for you. It inspires and grounds you.

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Venus conjunct Neptune
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/aspects-venus.html

The conjunction of Venus and Neptune adds a spiritual tone to your affections. You are impressionable, and have a deep and broad capacity for emotional rapport. A vivid imagination and fertile unconscious mind serve as aids to any artistic talents in music or art.

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You also have another great conjunction.With Mercury conjunct Jupiter in the 3rd House in Sagittarius, again you really have great communicator and teaching gifts.

Mercury conjunct Jupiter:
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/aspects-venus.html

Mercury in conjunction to Jupiter increases your confidence in your mental abilities and makes you skillful at influencing other people with your verbal abilities. Interests in higher learning are enhanced because you have a need to learn that you can't satisfy. Because of your wealth of knowledge, you can succeed in any number of fields. Try to define goals you want to reach (hey, make a list!) You have a philosophical approach to life and a very generous spirit.

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Mars in the 5th in Capricorn indicates that you get energized by your social life, and kids if you have any, in a nice calm Capricorn way.

You would make a great great teacher. Actually no matter what your vocation, you are a teacher.


RedRose

[RedRose]

Dear SylverStar,

Warm hearted Cancer Moon, Aquarius Sun men are wonderful, and sexy too. Your Cancer Moon makes you far less mental and impersonal than your average Aquarius. You make a cosmic friend but no, being secretive is NOT you....well unless you get hurt. Cancers can hide too, but it isn't because they like to hide. Scorpios are far more into "power", great poker players (in reality and/or metaphorically), mysterious and often broody. They don't laugh nearly enough, as a usual thing.

RedRose

[bellamandu]

grr! i apoligoze but i keep forgetting to ask shaggy if he's gotten ahold of his birth time. but please be patient, i PROMISE i will get it to you soon!

[RedRose]

No problem, GreenEyes!

RedRose

[SylverStar]

Dear SylverStar,

Warm hearted Cancer Moon, Aquarius Sun men are wonderful, and sexy too.

RedRose
I'm a girl ;)

[RedRose]

A woman! Same applies! Can't tell the difference between the sexes from a scope!

Big hug Sister!

RedRose

[SylverStar]

:) hehe I feel special, never had anyone mistake me yet (that I know of).

[RedRose]

Sylverstar,

Just the combination of your screenname, which seems like a modification of Silvester, and a seemingly wistful longing to be more Scorpio-like, led me astray.

Blessings to you.

RedRose

[SylverStar]

Screen name actually Silver Star. Also I was raised by a male so I tend to think of myself as having more male characteristics. Just amused.

[Kadynas]

I once read somewhere that there are more tomboys born under Aries and Scorpio than any other sign... as an Aries, it fits me. What about you Scorpios? :lol:

[SylverStar]

I'm actually an Aquarius. Are there any Scorpios in this thread? Or did I drive them all away? Scorpios speak.

[RedRose]

Dear Mireannach,

You have Scorpio Sun, Capricorn Moon with an Aquarius Rising. Almost all your planets and asteroids are in the 9th, 10th and 11th Houses. You have a great questing mind, career is very important to you this life and it involves using your mind, and your are here to help transform the planet, in some revolutionary way.

Natal Jupiter conjunct Ascendant

(Robert Pelletier)

With Jupiter conjunct the Ascendant, you are the epitome of optimisim. You do nothing in moderation because you are always hopeful that some of your excesses will work out for the best in the long run. You have an endless source of ideas with which to plan your success, and you are sure that you will succeed. With boundless faith in your abilities and a certain measure of luck, you don't worry about tomorrown and you care even less about yesterday. You are ambitious, but in satisfying your ambitions you can bute off more than you can chew. You exaggerate your own importance, which can be a serious liabilitty if you are seeking supporters in your endeavors. No-one likes a braggart or a person who overestimates his worth. You are inspiring to those under you, but you should avoid making promises to them unless you are sure you can deliver.

You are generous, kind, sympathetic, benevolent, and the delight of anyone seeking a contribution in a fund-raising campaign, since you are a 'soft touch'. Generally you are well informed about subjects that have an important bearing on your professional goals as well as about matters of general interest. You have the highest regard for institutions of learning, and with your providential nature you will probably endow some school. You are too open with private or classified information, and if your competition beats you with a new produvt, the idea probably came originally from you. Try to be more conservative and serious. Your appetite needs curbing too, because you are inclined to put on weight, especially with advancing
years.

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You are quite mental and practical. Your soul's agenda, or North Node is in Taurus cusp 2nd and 3rd Houses:
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NN in Taurus and 2nd House:

Yours is the path of the builder and your goal is that of abiding inner peace and security that are derived from valuing the self. Seeking self-worth "out there" brings sorrow - the completeness you seek can only come from a meaningful relationship with your self and the natural world. The only person you need to prove yourself to is yourself.

NN in 3rd House:

Yours is the path of information gathering and sharing. You want to cultivate curiosity and probe the world for more information, verbally or intellectually. Learning to really listen to others can be a challenge. You do not fare well when you follow blindly. The more experiences you are open to, the better. Deal squarely with life in the here and now.


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Your Sun is loosely conjunct Saturn in your 9th House. This makes you serious minded. You are good at studying and learning, and you will get better and better as you go.

Also at the cups of the 8th and 9th Houses in Scorpio we have:

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Venus conjunct Pluto

The conjunction of Venus and Pluto shows a good deal of passion and emotional intensity in your affections. Any artistic abilities you may possess are given a strong dramatic overtone. Romantic love needs may result in a variety of partners and a series of emotional crises in your life. Your powers to attract are very magnetic and strong. You arouse deep responses in your romantic partners, and your commitment in emotional relationships is complete.

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On this theme, with Mars in the 8th House in Libra, you are very attractive and have strong sexual energy. Studying mysticism and occult subjects gives you juice as well. You have a passionate love of beauty and balance and knowledge.

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Again, your career is very important to you and with Sagittarius on the cusp of your 10th House you used your brainpower in your work. You would make a good university professor or the like. Travel may well be a big part of your life as well.

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www.asrology-numerology.com

Mercury conjunct Uranus
The conjunction of Mercury and Uranus shows that you are bright, curious, articulate, and intuitive. You're easily excited, and your mind races to answer questions that arise. Your mind probably developed early by taking your toys apart to see what made them work. Electronic communication is especially fascinating to you. You are very futuristic in your thinking, rarely worrying about or dwelling on the past.

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Your heart is very committed to bringing in a better world. Again for you this means using your wonderful mind. Both your 10th and 11th Houses have Sagely-Aware-ius (Sagittarius) on their cusp. Your Moon is in the 11th House in Capricorn, which means you need to manifest something concrete, it isn't enough to have a transformative philosophy or mental construct to share, it must be practical, concrete and lasting.
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www.asrology-numerology.com

Eleventh house Moon

The Moon in your eleventh house shows a willingness to work in a self-effacing manner within a group, to promote a common good. You have a broad circle of friends, especially women, and you're very popular. You are naturally responsive to the feelings of others and you know how to sway public opinion. Your interests are so wide and varied that you must guard against becoming superficial. Your sense of security is tied to your relationships and to your many friends.

Eleventh House Neptune

Neptune in the eleventh house denotes an influence upon your hopes and dreams, and those friends and organizations with whom you associate. You may have a tendency to associate with people that are considered by normal standards to be very usual, and in some cases real oddballs. You're likely to be a schemer and a plotter. You dream big dreams and your hunches are often correct. Yet be sure your dreams are based on realistic and attainable goals (in your case, this shouldn't be an issue given the rest of your scope. You are here to pull off a big unusual dream).
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Your one on one relationships, especially your marriage, really nurture you.

RedRose

[Kadynas]

"Venus conjunct Pluto

The conjunction of Venus and Pluto shows a good deal of passion and emotional intensity in your affections. Any artistic abilities you may possess are given a strong dramatic overtone. Romantic love needs may result in a variety of partners and a series of emotional crises in your life. Your powers to attract are very magnetic and strong. You arouse deep responses in your romantic partners, and your commitment in emotional relationships is complete."

My fiance's got this one too! :D Since we're relativelyclose in age, my Pluto also falls on this conjunction in his chart... The word magnetic is very appropriate... even when we were separated by 500 miles we desperately wanted to be together. :) In one Linda Goodman's books, she says this aspect between couple's charts indicates that you cannont be separated on Earth except for very short periods. :lol: Of course one of her other books claimed to have the secret to immortality in it and she's no longer living, so I guess you have to take some of her stuff with a grain of salt... (Funny thing is I can find no mention anywhere of just /how/ she died...)

[mothwench]

I once read somewhere that there are more tomboys born under Aries and Scorpio than any other sign... as an Aries, it fits me. What about you Scorpios? :lol:
depends what you mean by tomboy. i'm a skinny wench, so i'm not the typical climbing trees sort of tomboy, (i'm afraid of heights! :bigredblu), but i always did get along better with the boys. and still do, at least in rl.

amazing what you say about the chakras, redrose!
once i did a chakra test, at first i thought it was just a fun silly thing, but the results did so remind me of myself, my strengths, my weaknesses and gave me answers on how to solve problems. the results match your description exactly:
underactive root, heart and navel,
almost overactive sacral and 3rd eye
and the rest of them normal (open)

as for intensity... what you call 14. sommat posts per day? and i do LOADS of other stuff as well... :lol:

[Chanda]

Interesting thread...

Being a scorpio myself, I am just wondering if anyone knows anything about the jealous side of scorpios. That is one of the negative characteristics that I have in over supply. Knowing about it has meant that I keep it under control, otherwise it could get ugly.

Peace,
Chanda.

[mothwench]

i know nothing of jealousy, but i could sing you the blues about envy. is there really that much of a difference, tho?

[Chanda]

Jealousy and envy, probably not much difference.

I just read about the tomboy thing. I was one myself, it wasnt till I turned 28 or so that I finally fully accepted that I am a woman! Always got along better with man. However, now that I am confortable as a woman, I feel intensily happy about it and wouldnt change it for the world. :)

[mothwench]

yeah, i'm feeling the same change happening to me... i see it as the transition into the mother aspect. (the aspects of the triple goddess all females carry at some stage in their lives)

[bellamandu]

hey! sorry its been so long. apparantly, shaggy cant find the EXACT stuff, but do you mind trying your best with the info i gave you?

[RedRose]

Sure post your birth time, date and place again in the Redrose minireadings thread with what you have for your Shaggy, and I'll give it a look. However, I won't be back to doing free readings until after the holidays, you understand. Have to serve my paying customers first, but January and February are slow months - stay tuned.

RedRose

[HollyJ]

I read somewhere in an astrology book that if you have a rising scorpio but sun in soemthing else, the scorpio sign pretty much takes over the entire chart?

[SylverStar]

I guess that means I don't have Scorpio rising. What's with all these signs trying to take over my chart. 1st its my moon in Cancer and now possibly Scorpio rising.

[RedRose]

I've never heard that about Scorpio Rising, which doesn't mean a thing, of course, because astrology is endless in it's aspects and interpretations! I learn new stuff everywhere. But upon reflection, I can see that having a Scorpio Rising could be extra intense, because Scorpio anything is intense. Our Risings have to do with our life's purpose - the planet that rules our Rising sign, rules our whole chart, that is, our whole life. For Scorpio Rising people, that planet is Pluto and Pluto is way big and powerful and uncontrollable and deep and wide and mysterious. Also our Rising is how others see us, not necessarily how we experience ourselves. So people with Scorpio risngs should, according to astrology, seem dark, handsome/beautiful, sexy and mysterious to others.

Sylverstar seems more Aquarius than anything else, including being a counter-culture person astrologically speaking. I have Taurus rising and I guess I look a bit like a Taurus, people stop and ask me for directions because it looks like I am approachable and would know such things...but most people think I am a Leo right off (my moon) because I have a mane of red hair.

Anyone here look like your Rising sign is suppose to look?

RedRose

[bellamandu]

ok then lets see...
shaggys b-day is aug 20, 1983, he was born in lafayetteville illinois. i cant exactly remember where he said it was. the only birth information we know about shaggy is this (maybe it will help in deciding which sutff is his): he was born in illinois with his older brother. apparantly, his parents NEVER took care of their children, so his older brother always took care of him. chris (his brothers name, after it was changed from his original name, christian, to match he present fathers name) has since become very ill about this, and HATES it when he feels he has to take care of his lil' bro again. anyway, while on (im assuming) vacation to right here, myrtle beach, sc, their birth parents stranded the two brothers in a hotel somewhere along the beach, with a limited amount of records on doctors, birth, etc. they were found by two policemen hanging (barely) over the railing of the balcony. about this time, shaggy (real name is cory campbell fuse) was still a baby, and chris was about 2 or 3. they were sent back to an orphanage in illinois, and were adopted (strangely) by a couple in myrtle beach, who were about to lose their only daughter. adoption is very common in this new family. the new mother was adopted herself. when she was younger, she had a son, and put him up for adoption. not too long ago, he found her again and they have ever since been reunited. shaggy is sort of been the "other" child if you will. they have placed chris as the "favorite" thinking that they were making him feel more wanted now, since shaggy was the "more wanted" one because chris was always taking care of him. because of this, chris holds a grudge against shaggy and is constantly taunting him about it, because he is the only one with memories of their mother. (we dont know if there was a father, which may be the reason they were left at the hotel) anyway, like i said, chris is the favorite, and they kind of act like shaggy isnt even there sometimes.
this is really all i know about his birth (or as close as we can get to it) an things that has arisen from the conflicts. i hope it helps.

my full b-day is oct 26, 1987 i was born in louden county hospitol in tenn, on 10:51 am.

[RedRose]

Dear Dragongreeneyes,

Wow, big hug to you two. Life is so exquisitely painful as well as wonderful. What an amazing story your Shaggy has. Can you post the birth data in the RedRose mini-readings thread, or PM me with it, so I don't lose track of it? It will be a spell before I can get to you, but stay tuned. I will PM you as well as post it when I get there.

RedRose

[Silver_Undine]

Scorpio over here. Yeah, I was a (still am a little) tomboy when I was younger. Just started carrying a purse a year or so ago. LOL. I can be very jealous but I try to keep it under control. :smoke:

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8-9 Scorpio/Sagittarius
The combination of your Sun sign and your Moon sign produces a personality that is assertive and expressive. The emotional force, determination and will power of Scorpio becomes somewhat explosive when combined with the directness of manner and utter honesty of Sagittarius. You are idealistic, with a viewpoint that is aloof, and you live in a philosophic world of your own. You are social-minded and eager to help others, though you are apt to find it hard to ever get started. You are affectionate, loyal and sincere, almost to a fault. You can do well in some idealistic sort of job such as medicine, religion, or public service. You may be too idealistic for business and too critical of anything that you feel smacks of shrewdness. You are not one to compromise your ethics for money or status gains. There is a great deal of enthusiasm or spirit in your nature, but success may be difficult until you have learned to control impulses that often result in outbursts of temperament, brusqueness of manner, or tactless assertions. You react too quickly, without due consideration and forethought. As you mature, you must study the effects of your words on others, particularly on sensitive people, and avoid attracting antagonism and misunderstandings. After harnessing your powerful emotional energies, your high principles and sense of honor can take you far indeed.

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Sagittarius (some of this I don't agree with)
Sagittarius rising produces a personality that is restless, outgoing, and very independent. This Ascendant is one that produces goal oriented individuals; people with a long-range outlook and philosophical attitude. Your ambitions are geared to those long-range and large-scale goals. Simultaneously, you are apt to have a positive and optimistic outlook. You feel matters will turn out okay, no matter how large the challenge may be.

You have strong urges to cover vast distances, both physically and mentally. Usually, everything does turn out well for you. Your "Ruling" planet is Jupiter, the "great benefic." Jupiter is considered the luckiest planet in the zodiac. It produces a personality characterized by humor and a happy-go-lucky disposition. You have a need to experience life fully in a variety of ways. Open and friendly, you are usually cheerful, interested, and jovial.

One difficulty that you may have from time to time is that you to take everything and everyone for granted. You don't like dealing with pessimistic or emotional people, and you don't want the burden of dealing with their problems. You don't even like dealing with your own problems, often ignoring them with an attitude that if you don't acknowledge these situations, they will go away. There may be a fear of disappointment in your makeup that can prevent you from seeing your path to success clearly.

Although you are an excellent abstract thinker, you are also very much an outdoor person. You love nature. In this vein, you are a very spiritual person who can tune in to the higher forces in life simply by taking a walk in the woods.

You are a very direct person. Your speech can be blunt and to the point, often lacking in tact and diplomacy. Your reasoning powers are superb. To be fulfilled, you need a constant challenge and goal. If these two factors are combined in effective ways in your life, you may do much. This sign enjoys the good fortune of having thought patterns that remain young and fresh throughout life. Your outlook won't become jaded by time or turmoil.

[amandabruner]

Hi, another Scorpio here. Actually, according to my chart from Astro.com, I'm I guess what would be considered a double Scorpio with a Virgo moon. Weird, I always thought I was more in tune with air than earth, but that's me. Maybe I can find another place to do a chart and see if the results are different. Anyway, I love being a Scorpio and being all mysterious. People can't figure me out, partly because I won't let them, and it's always fun to hear how they thiink they know me so well, when they only know what I let them. Lol. It's not malicious or anything, but it's more of a self-protection thing, I think. The jealousy thing is there, but it's fairly rare and I try to keep it under control. I wonder if the double Scorpio thing explains why I'm so drawn to water. I love the sound of ocean waves or a running river, though I like the more powerful water sounds like waterfalls or raging storms. I just get something off it, a kind of thrill. In fact, sometimes I get this urge to just see a huge storm with tons of rain and wind, as long as I'm inside, of course. Lol. Well, that's me, or some of me, anyway. Nice to know there are so many of us cool people. Btw, my boyfriend is a Taurus/Libra/Leo, so it's funny to find out that we both think we're better than everybody else! Lol.
Bb,
Amanda