swearing

[Polaris]

MM
wot the deal about swearing at this site? can i say cr*p and s*it and f*ck?i would like to know so i can express my self better.
MP
Polaris

[atlantis]

well u can in my website Polaris i don't know about this one though

[mol]

Originally posted by Polaris
MM
wot the deal about swearing at this site? can i say cr*p and s*it and f*ck?i would like to know so i can express my self better.
MP
Polaris

If you need to swear to express yourself...then perhaps you need to grow up a little more before posting.

[BrightStar]

Hi all!
You might try a Thesaurus.It could help you expand your vocabulary and reduce your need for expletives in self expression.I hear dictionaries are good too!(:
Peace and Love
Rain BrightStar

[Kiarda]

Well, I dont know about all the rest of you but...well, profanity always seems so negative to me..I cringe inwardly when I hear it or..yes, see it..it drags on my energy..anyone else? Happy b-day again mairwen

[samoanshark]

Originally posted by Kiarda
Well, I dont know about all the rest of you but...well, profanity always seems so negative to me..I cringe inwardly when I hear it or..yes, see it..it drags on my energy..anyone else? Happy b-day again mairwen

I agree with you, Kiarda! And there are so many beautiful words in the English language that can help a person express their feelings! Come on, Polaris, it's not so difficult.
Just ask Mr. Webster! :) We are blessed to have such a fantastic variety of words.
Try it, you'll like it.
Blessed be.

[atlantis]

Originally posted by mol
If you need to swear to express yourself.... then prehaps you need to grow up a little more before posting
oooh harsh words mol

[mol]

Originally posted by atlantis

Originally posted by mol
If you need to swear to express yourself.... then prehaps you need to grow up a little more before posting
oooh harsh words mol

Not meant to be harsh...just truth. :) You know me...

[Rosabelle]

i think some swearing is un nessesary (is that how you spell it?) i think that people who swear constantly just do it to look big but as a fact, you tend to swear less hen you grow up. sometimes there are no other words you can use but i dont think it is nesasery to use them here ;)
Rosabelle

[Polaris]

MM
i suppose i dont nead to swear. i dont much really anyway. i was more just checking if you guys were ok with it.
MP
Polaris

[Semele]

That is what teenagers do best!!! And it is the only way you find things out...asking. If something makes you feel so emotional and you feel the need to swear just try something like this...." That @!#% Bush makes me so mad!!!" That way we get the point without the harsh words...and also we get to insert our own favorite words for him!!!

Semele

[Polaris]

MM
yeh semele. you are right. do you hate George W Bush too?i do . he has some stupid quotes that rosabelle told me:(you prob know them but here they are for the others)

if we dont suceed we run the risk of failure

most of our imports come from abroad

we can all agree the past is behind us


i dunno about you, but they are the stupidest things i have heard in a long time.
totally off the topic,
Polaris

[Red Dragon]

I have to agree with the general theme here, I feel that the use of swearing is not appropriate to this site, and only reflects the lack of education in the user. After about the first or second grade, it fails to impress anyone. There are far better ways to make a point. You might note that we have a thesaurus conveniently placed by mol for instant use when composing messages.

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Red Dragon
the use of swearing is not appropriate to this site, and only reflects the lack of education in the user

Heh, no wonder everybody looked at me funny in my psychology classes... everyone except the professor, that is.

;)

~ew

[gunner]

i agree with mol and red dragon on this. when needed i can swear like a marine (naturally!) but i save it for "special occasions" and because of that when i do begin to swear everyone takes careful note that "the old man is 'not happy'" and set about mending the problem forthwith. but they really jump when i simply begin with "you people WILL....!"

[Dragonmother]

A friend of mine created a program that substitutes words for cuss words on her chat room. Now, you find yourself "Spitting Crudities" when you meant to say "sh*t" and "soap" when you wanted to say "f*ck". It's pretty funny when the teens try to get dirty with each other- and us more-or-less grownups love to have cussin contests on her chatboard. What's really funny is that there's no case discrimination- if a word shows up as part of another word, it gets substituted anyway. So the word "sustitute" becomes "subschicken sandwichute"... You figure it out! LOL
if you want to try it-
http://www.catler.org/echat42/listing.shtml

[mol]

Hahah..I can do that here...I just didnt want to limit everyone's ability to express themselves if, once in a while, they feel the need for a more colorful use of the english language.

I am not saying that I encourage it...only that I didnt want to censor...

[Dragonmother]

Then I would say you are not the control freak lisaviolet is...

[Tigerwallah]

Hey, there's a song for you on the South Park movie soundtrack. Sung by Mr. Mackey called "It's Easy, Mmmkay" Gives wonderful suggestions for substitutions, and warns what can happen to someone who uses too much bad language. Check it out - if you are at least 17yrs old.

But seriously, f**** means fornicate with unlawful carnal knowledge. Once you break it down - loses it's potency.

By the way. I also detest Dubya. Not the brightest crayon in the box.

[Dragonmother]

**** is an ancient Anglo-Saxon word- meaning, to ****.
Aren't you glad to know that? *grin*

[cydira]

Where did you find that one out??? <grins>

Aside from that... in my less than humble opinion, I think swearing is pretty well useless. And I'm referring to vulgarity, not giving an oath. <shrugs> I think my thesaurus is my best friend and also, if you take a literal perspective on vulgarity it becomes hilarious. Especially when you start comparing it across cultures. If you start attempting to translate spanish vulgarisms into english you find yourself with a large number of non-sequitors. It makes you wonder how many non-sequitors you would find if you translated english vulgarity into another language?

Y'all have a good one. I think I'm going to toddle off to bed to get ready for my 8 am classes.

By the way, Mol, thanks for inviting me. :D

Blessings

[rantnraven]

I, personally, try NOT to swear. It get's nowhere and, in general, just tick's people off. There are better ways to express ones self.

-T

[Yvonne Belisle]

I had been told it was an anglo saxon verb meaning to plant. This would also explain why the product of a man was called seed a womb was refered to as a field and the act of impregnating a woman was refered to planting. My Aunt may have been mistaken and it could have been a more modern translation. If you can find out and tell me where to verify it I will correct my Aunt so that we do not repeat the missconception to another person. I am actually interested in this. Thank-you.

[Dragonmother]

Welll.... I hate to admit it, but i just popped that one off. Mea Culpa! Now i'm interested, and I will try to get downtown to the BIG library and do some research. I couldn't find a thing on the internet last night.
But, I do think that my memory says the word is pretty much unchanged. I will try to find my sources.

[rantnraven]

Look into the Gaelic language as I think it started with Folg or Folc - meaning Sow. As I understand it. I could be completely wrong though.

-T

[Traz Heart]

Hello,

I am a Newbee to this site but I belive no matter were USA or online or some were else in the world, that a person haveing the freedom of speach in any form taken away is horrible.

The Idea of a "Curse" comes from Christianity.

The bible says do not curse (not sure on the wording).
But the true meaning is not to Curse people like "I hope your cattle all die!!" ect...

The Idea of freedom to say what you want goes hand in hand with the idea to belive in and worship what ever you want.

In this light I belive if someone wants to curse, swear or what ever the ****, Let them.

At least were I live that is a God/goddess given right.

-Traz-

p.s. Hello this is my first post and I am kaylara's Fiance.

[Yvonne Belisle]

I think the only concern is that some of us let our kids onto the site to look around. At least he trusts us enough to censer ourselves and if we really feell the need we can still do it. A lot of sites can't trust their members that much.

[rantnraven]

Welcome.

However, to curse would be against the reede. "May your cattle die" or, whatever, is not what we stand for. May your cattle prosper, live and be fertile. That is what we are about. Remember, what we do WILL come back three fold. Cursing is nether necessary, nor needed! Freedom of speech or not.

-T

[mol]

I have touched on this before. This site will not censor...it is up to the Community to censor itself. I myself would not like my son to be a member of any Community where every word is ridden with obscenities. And yes, they may not be a 'curse' but our society has deemed them obscene.

Now, I, personally, am not offended. I do practice courtesy in the use of these words. Since I dont know who in the Community might be offended by them, I dont use them. (Or at least very sparingly.)

I ask Community members to take this in a account.

[mol]

Originally posted by rantnraven
Welcome.

However, to curse would be against the reede. "May your cattle die" or, whatever, is not what we stand for. May your cattle prosper, live and be fertile. That is what we are about. Remember, what we do WILL come back three fold. Cursing is nether necessary, nor needed! Freedom of speech or not.

-T

*I concur*

But, remember, some members of this Community do not recognize the Rede or the 3-fold law. ;)

[Tigerwallah]

Well, as fate would have it, I was mistaken. Heard the initial thing from 3 different sources not related. This comes from aol's dictionary. It's roots are Dutch - Fokken- to breed - as in cattle
Swedish - fokka - to copulate
This is from Merriam Webster.

[Dragonmother]

Tigerwallah, tell me about the AOL dictionary. Can a non AOL user acsess it, and how good do you feel it is?

[Tigerwallah]

Dragonmother, the AOL dictionary is very good. It is a complete compilation of the Merriam Webster dictionary. It can't be accessed by non-members, but I found the Merriam Webster dictionary online. I looked up our word of the day and got the same results. That address is http://www.m-w.com. - go to collegiate dictionary.

[Armitage]

Completely off-topic post!

*pets Dragonmother's kittie*

Ok, I'm done.

[Dragonmother]

Pretty handy link, I can not believe I didn't find it the other night. Thanks Tigerwallah! And, Armie, my kitty is purring.
The kitty, by the way, is "LeapordHaven's Mojo Jackson", a purebred Bengal- he's the tallest cat I've ever had! it's like having a feline Great Dane galloping through the house...
BTW, Tigerwallah, do you foloow an Indian path? ;-)

[Tigerwallah]

Dragonmother, my Goddess is Isis. My philosophies are, however, Hindu (with a little Buddhism in the mix). Tigerwallah is my business name. I am a wildlife artist and interior designer. I hope to use my business to save some of the world's endangered creatures (starting with the tiger) through money and education. While looking for a name for my business, I found Tigerwallah which, as you might know, means one who spends his/her life protecting the tiger.

I'm glad you liked the link. I find it pretty handy myself.
Blessed Be!!! :)

[lynx]

I can't exactly say that I don't swear. I just try and watch it. I have a soon to be three year-old, who at this time is an echo to me. So, like I said, I gotta watch what I say.

Although I think I'll be in school all over again when he gets to that. Let's just say, I can only try. I just never seem to be around when grandpa, uncle and whoever say nusery ryhmes I don't think my ears can handle. But, I say my share too. I'm not exactly perfect on that. Or anything else for that matter. HEE HEE :D

I guess my son is going to be a little more like me than I expected. If so, maybe he'll grow wiser with time. I mean wiser as when certain words apply and when they are not even close.

You know?.....

Lynx :D

[Wizard]

Whats the point,, if you cant get your point over without swearing,, then best keep quiet hey.
Although i do swear when i flatten my fingers doing DIY, i best respect others when i chat, so hey,, give it a try sometime,, it aint that hard

[Earth Walker]

I don't think that the use of profanity is necessary
for this board, or for everyday use. ;)
However, there are times that it is appropriate to
use expletives. :cool: :p

[Mariposa De La Luna]

I think the problem is not censorship or the words themselves. Its the power people have given them.
Profanity does have negative connotations because a ton of people have empowered them that way. We (English speakers) have grown up told that they are dirty words. Now don't get me wrong. I don't let my daughter do it. It goes beyond just saying the words. They practically have a life of their own. IMHO I believe they also bring that negativity to the speaker.

In other cultures profanity is alot more colorful. Whishing someone's goats get infested with fleas, for instance, can be a grave insult. But of course to us, may not seem so bad( do you have a goat?).

[rantnraven]

Sorry no goats.

You could tell me to "F"-off or even talk about my Mama but, don't EVER wish fleas on my Kittie. That would "tick" me off.

-T

[Earth Walker]

The word F*** is an abbreviation of 4 words, used
in olde English courts when trying sex "crimes"....
F***ing Under Carnal Knowledge. :rolleyes:

[Tigerwallah]

Hi, Mystique, I mentioned that f**k meant to fornicate with unlawful carnal knowledge ( I got it a little mixed up), and I was informed that that that might not be correct(see page 2 of this thread). So, I looked it up in the dictionary, and that said it's roots were Dutch - fokken, and Swedish - fokka - both meaning to copulate refferring to cattle. I heard the carnal knowledge thing from several different sources, though. Now I'm confused ::scratches head::.

Hey, Sahm. I completely agree with you. Words are harmless, it is the power we give them.

Hi, Rantraven, my cats had a horrible case of fleas last year. That is the worst curse of all. :(

[random]

first- im sorry your cat had fleas, my mom's dog did once really bad (she's a teacup pomeranian) and she almost died from them.

second- i think that profanity is your choice to use or not. In my case I use it about 40% of the time. cause that's about as much of the itme that Im really issed at something/someone. I had to serve a detention the other day for saying 'kiss my ass' to a prep at my school that i totally dispise. i dont use profanity mos tof the time with people i respect, but with those i don;t... it kinda slips. subconcious thing, i guess.. or not. never know.

[rantnraven]

Those of whom I do not respect, I try not to talk to.

To those that I do not respect and HAVE to talk to, I fain respect.

And laugh later.

-T

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