Would you....

[mato]

Use animal products in ritual tools? Or use animal products as ritual tools?

[Toad]

Yep!

[mothwench]

yeah, but only the stuff i find lying around. like recently i found a buck's antler, which i'm still ecstatic about. and i have a jar of dried frogs. i find them in my basement.
why?
edited to add: no pun intended, toad!

[mato]

Why do you find frogs in your basement? I dont know... I dont have that problem at all!
Ohhhh your asking me why I asked? Cause I recently came into posession of a bone (:lol: I really need to get my mind out of the gutter) that just begs to be carved and used in ritual... :rotfl: Ok ok... enough with that already. Ack! I am so damn immature at the moment.
It's just that I am a vegitarian and all that gunk... and I dont like killing shyt myself so I was wondering if it would bother any one else to use them... I mean It's not like I'm a PETA supporter or anything, I have three leather coats for crying out loud. But I dont use them ritually or anything...

I am carving the bone no matter what I just dont know if I should use it in ritual or not...

[mothwench]

i see no problem with it. but i'm not veggie. do you at least know what kind of bone it is?

about the frogs... i live in the country, and we have a pond in the yard. the basement is sort of only a half basement cause the house is split level and...
ah, heck, they just get in there somehow, and then if i don't go in my basement in summer for a couple of days, i find loads of shriveled teenage froggies. very sad. sometimes i find live ones, tho and then i take them out to the pond.
boring, yes, but you did ask. :p

[Cheshire_Cat]

I'm a vegetarian too, but I'd use animal products as long as they were just things I found. Like I use feathers and stuff like that. I wouldn't kill anything to get parts from it though.

[~*Ginger*~]

What do you think they used before there were stores?

[Rick]

I have a bone athame that I use, time to time...

[Rick]

Oh, yeah... and turtleshell rattle, & various sage fans made from various kinds of feathers (my favorite is blue macaw tail feathers)...

[mato]

i see no problem with it. but i'm not veggie. do you at least know what kind of bone it is?

about the frogs... i live in the country, and we have a pond in the yard. the basement is sort of only a half basement cause the house is split level and...
ah, heck, they just get in there somehow, and then if i don't go in my basement in summer for a couple of days, i find loads of shriveled teenage froggies. very sad. sometimes i find live ones, tho and then i take them out to the pond.
boring, yes, but you did ask. :p

How do you know they are teenage froggies? Ever think of offering them to your local HS or Middle School for disection. If they are already dead I mean... Not like they would be going to waste.

Ok the bone is deer I checked it out... And I asked around for the proper ritual to thank the spirit. I never thought I would have to use one.

[mothwench]

:lol: cause their not tadpoles anymore, but their still ickle, so i reckon they're just about hitting the annoying adolescent (sp?) stage.... i really don't know how old they are, it was just a guess. i don't think the schools would want them, cause a.) the froggies are truly shriveled. all dried up, i mean. and b.) the schools around here dissect cows eyes in the bio classes. dunno about the unis, but i really doubt they could use my dried frogs. you're pulling my leg, anyhoo, aren't you? :razz:

deer is cool. i'm all into deer myself lately. check out my buck-shed thread in the green room. it's called a gift from the forest. :colorful:

[mato]

Just wanted to see how long it would take ya... :D

[mothwench]

:sick: ;)

[lunaire]

i generally shy away from using animal products in magick (including pearl, coral, feather, leather, etc.); it just makes me feel weird. and if something makes you feel weird, don't use it in magick. recently, however, i set a big spell in motion to get me to the particular location (near the ocean). and i used shells and driftwood that i collected at a beach of that ocean. the shell component is only one of many, but i'm still using them to connect me to that place. and it feels right. so i guess what i'm saying is--how do you feel about it? bone, horn, feather, shell, teeth, pelts, bezoars, hair, fingernails, blood, urine, etc. have a long and distinguished history in magickal practice. there's a lot of power there -- if you feel that you can and want to use it, do it!

[Cerulean]

Probably not unless it was an antler I found lying around. I'm not a vegetarian but I would never harm an animal just for some alleged ritual purpose. I have a little drum that has a leather cover, from Africa, but I eat beef, so . . .

[Phoenix Blue]

Yes, if I found the part or if I killed the animal. Ie., if I killed a deer, I would use the meat for food and the antlers for other purposes, etc. Why let part of an animal go to waste? :)

[mothwench]

do you hunt, pb?