Your views on the actual practice of necromancy and blood magick?

[MuseSick]

Do any of you practice any blood magick or necromancy?

If so, how do you go about it? Techniques, etc.?

[morrigen]

I'm a bit of a wuss. When I feel I need blood for anything, I use an egg :lol:
Seriously, I figure it's still a biological element, so an egg is a good symbol of life/lifeforce etc.

Now, my partner on the other hand, will cheerfully slice his thumb and use drops of blood as offerings when he feels necessary (not very often)

Necromancy intrigues me....it will be interesting to read replies to this thread.

[MuseSick]

yes it will be . . unfortunately there arent many yet

[Cheshire_Cat]

I have no problem with either practice.

If I need blood, I cut a finger open.

My practice of necromancy hasn't gone past spirit communication yet because it's hard to find ways to learn a lot of the other stuff.

[Sage Rainsong]

I personally use my own blood in spells/rituals that are designed for me only. I see no problem with it. As far a necromancy goes it has never gone beyond ancestor reverence. Sometimes i will light a candle in offering to my ancestors ask for a spell/ritual or non-magical solution to a problem. then I clear my mind and wait. It works fairly well.

[Mesektet]

Though I dont practice blood magick much right now, the time is coming soon when I'll drop back into that area of study. I negative stigma it has is something that i think has saved many a curious wanderer from going too far over the edge. there is something so primal and adrenaline-pumped about it when i have worked it. As for Necromancy, it comes as a second nature to me. Normally on certain nights I will take bottle after bottle of wine to some unknown country graveyard and give them drink and smoke, then let them come...as far as raising them goes, not going to try it unless i have a damn good reason, or lose my mind....either way, its an extreme circumstance.

[Antoninus]

Theres a nutcase near where I live. He practices Necromancy, scaaaary stuff. I stay away from that kind of thing myself. I dunno, maybe its too many movies but the idea of something rising again just doesnt sit well with me.

[Cheshire_Cat]

If he's raising the dead, then he probably really is a nutcase.

[Antoninus]

I dont know for sure, theres alot of rumors but I treat rumors like I treat roadkill, I identify it, where it came from and stay the HELL away from it.

[Memnoch McKiln]

never try to bring one back, for they will not return as they were,---old gypsy tradition

[MuseSick]

well . . like i said in a different thread (i think . .) A very knowledgable man on the subject told me that if a necromancer has any "true" power in the art then he could kill a person just by touching them

[LeftToWonder]

well . . like i said in a different thread (i think . .) A very knowledgable man on the subject told me that if a necromancer has any "true" power in the art then he could kill a person just by touching them

Why kill someone just by touching them, poison, or a gun works much easier, and you don't have to train to do those kinds of things.:)
I have done 1 blood ritual, which was sort of a dedication ceremony, It was intense, but I have a hard time focusing when I cut myself because I'm a pansy. As far as Necromancy haven't had much experience, but its not something I wouldn't be intrested in trying later on down the road.

[MuseSick]

because guns are for pussies and a necromancer uses the power that he EARNED and not bought very easily . . and also . . its not by choice (if i remember right) its just . . whoever HE TOUCHES AT ALL

[LeftToWonder]

because guns are for pussies and a necromancer uses the power that he EARNED and not bought very easily . . and also . . its not by choice (if i remember right) its just . . whoever HE TOUCHES AT ALL

I don't see any reason to have to work for a power where there is an easyily subsituted method. And I guess I'm a pussy. If he kills everyone he touches, he must be lonely. You should give him a hug. :lol:

[MuseSick]

but the necromancer is not just doing it so that they can kill someone by touching them . . . it just happens from the opwer that they DO accumulate by practicing the necromancy, contacting and even trying to control the dead (as they are "soulless" so to speak and I FIGURE would kinda be more succeptable to control) . . . yes . . . I mean zombies

[LeftToWonder]

but the necromancer is not just doing it so that they can kill someone by touching them . . . it just happens from the opwer that they DO accumulate by practicing the necromancy, contacting and even trying to control the dead (as they are "soulless" so to speak and I FIGURE would kinda be more succeptable to control) . . . yes . . . I mean zombies

:hugz:
Thats what I recommend.

[DarkSidhe]

When I first started, I was told that the Ancients did not require blood in any rituals. But the more I learned, the more I found out that in many cases, blood was used a whole lot more than ppl were willing to admit in newer books. Heck, the Celts sacrificed scores of ppl in their wickermen.

Most of the time, I don't need it, so I don't use it. To me, blood is kinda like adding Nitrous to a car. If your just going to drive an Escort around, you don't need it. But every once in a while, sometimes you do need that little extra ooomph.

Ancestor reverance is about as far as I get as well with Necromancy. And if anyone really knows someone who can really raise the dead; I've got a friend that was killed because he drove drunk that I'd like to bring back, just so I can kick his butt....
I've never been able to talk to any dead ppl I know. I tend to let sleeping ghosts lay. When you think of it, if they are in Tir Na Og (or the otherworld, or heaven, etc), then why would they desire to come back, unless it was something extremely important?

[AmbivalentMirage]

I don't use blood unless it's an extreme need/cause. I can't seem to cut myself open, though. My knife just scrapes and hurts a lot.

The only time I had to use blood, I had just injured myself anyway, so I already had an open wound. :lol:

[Teshuva3D]

LOL!!! Yes,it's rather hard to focus on the intent of something when you have to saw away at yourself...I'm not into cutting myself either..although I know someone who uses those little gizmos (instead of a knife or razor blade )diabetics prick themselves with when they want to test their blood..it's nice and quick,and she doesn't have an odd looking cut to explain later...

[Sylvan]

I have used my own blood and probably will in the future... But I don't cut myself open. What I do is just save the gauze pads that get spots of blood on them from when I give blood every 8 weeks or so. Has to be a pretty dire need to use them though.

Necromancy... I'm not familiar with except in a Frankenstein/"Voodoo" zombie kinda way...

[belarogue]

a post made by a friend of mine on another forum:

"Ok, perhaps its time a necromancer actually said something. Yes, I'm a necromancer. I'm no undead fiend (though undeath could be kinda useful.... nomore colds!) , I dont give people nightmares, I dont bind the dead to me, I dont raise corpses, I dont sacrifice things, I dont have sex with dead things and I'm not evil. Though I'm afraid I cant say that about other necromancers.

First of, there IS a kind of entity out there, called liche, which is a what a few necromancers may become, but which anyone else can become too. Itsa great power, but comes at the cost of your soul and anything else you hold dear. I think that this is what most people encounter when they say they've encountered a necromancer.

A lot of people seem to have got all their knowledge, sadly, from RPG's like AD&D. Formore information on what necromancy really is try this link.

http://www.sorcerycenter.com/Necromancy.html

Also, a lot of what people think of as necromancy is actually from a magickal practice called Nigromancy, the practice of raising evil spirits, demons etc, which really is a dark and usually evil art, and is actually totally different from necromancy, even though some people dont seem to see it that way. Aagain, try this link.

http://www.sorcerycenter.com/Necromancy.html

What amuses me is that necromancy is considered so 'evil', but people quite happily go mediums and such and think its great. Well, what do they do? Talk to the dead. What do I? Talk to the dead. You do the math. And not all spirits go on to the afterlife without a hitch. I have had encounters with spirits who were trapped because they couldnt let go, or didnt even understand that they were dead. I helped them move on as it were. And spirits want to talk, or at least some of them do. I dont force them, in fact, it can be the other way round, they try to force me to to do what they want. So necromancy is not an easy gift or calling.

Hope this clears things up for some. Any questions, just ask. "

a side note, the url is one of those "pay us and we'll teach you.." loaded sites, however aside from that, the initial info that they provide is amazingly not too far off. i myself (bela) do not practice necromancy this time around but seem to have many friends who do. The only info i have on necromancy that i know is irrefutably true comes from memories of past lives. even what i know from then does not always seem equivalent with what some of the necromancers I know in the here and now live their lives and practice their forms of necromancy. Even more challenging was that I remembered a group of people who travelled the realms who were often mistaken for necromancers but who didn't do any sort of necromancy per se. Which again contributes to different practices (i.e. a christian might call a druid and a satanist both witches, but according to the druid and the satanist, neither are witches).

[DarkSidhe]

Also, a lot of what people think of as necromancy is actually from a magickal practice called Nigromancy, the practice of raising evil spirits, demons etc, which really is a dark and usually evil art, and is actually totally different from necromancy, even though some people dont seem to see it that way.

Nigromancy, or Nigromantia are two words that, to anyone's knowledge, are made up. One source states that the words come from the 14th century, but never explains where.
No one to my knowledge has ever been able to back this up with any real sources. Black Magic is not something Africans do...and even being Irish, and Caucasian, I find the use of these terms, made up as they are, to be degrading and insulting. And until someone can prove to me and everyone else that these words were actually used to define Necromancy, I will continue to believe this way.
I prefer you would use the term Stupiddrunkenirishomancy, as it makes as much more sense.
Sorry to rant.

[Marchosias]

never try to bring one back, for they will not return as they were,---old gypsy tradition

Isn't that from "Pet Cemetary"?

[LittleRhiannon]

I haven't used blood yet, but I wouldn't have a problem using my own if I needed too. As for Necromancy, I really don't like dealing with spirits. Especially dead ones. My stance is just, if they leave me alone, I will let them be happy and dead. I don't think it's wrong or anything, but I wouldn't be able to do it without being really uncomfortable.

[xblue420x]

Why kill someone just by touching them, poison, or a gun works much easier, and you don't have to train to do those kinds of things.:)
I have done 1 blood ritual, which was sort of a dedication ceremony, It was intense, but I have a hard time focusing when I cut myself because I'm a pansy. As far as Necromancy haven't had much experience, but its not something I wouldn't be intrested in trying later on down the road.
yeah poison or a gun or knife whatever would work and you wouldnt haveta deal with the dead for a long time to do it..but think about it...if all you do to kill them is touch them, thats like the perfect murder. the only thing anyone could charge you on is being with them when they died-probably be concluded as a heart attack or something...
i wouldnt want that tho...i dont think i could go less than a day without petting my puppy, i wouldnt want to have the hand of death thats just creepy

anyways...ive never even really concidered using blood in practice, i would if i thought i needed it..only if it was really really important though and alternatives(such as eggs good idea!) didn't give the effect needed. I don't think theres anything wrong with it, as long as its your blood and you dont injure or kill anything...
i know that ancients used blood all the time and did sacrifices and all that, some people still do..makes me think of the devils advocate..when the guy in the sewers killed goats...anywho, i think that over the past few thousand years we have found plenty of alternatives to this and there isnt much of a need for it anymore.
i've talked TO the dead, but never WITH them..same with spirits and the such, maybe my mind isnt open enough to let me hear if they are talking back or not
and as for raising the dead...i was in a lab with 5 kadavers for 9 months...and after seeing that-i would probably crap my pants and then scream untill i died if i saw a dead man walking haha
gives me the hebale jebales just thinkin about it:yikes:

[Mau]

Well..wow..ummmmmmm, ok :foh: I dabble in necromancy very, very often...sometimes daily. Didn't know that's what it was called till I read this thread..:lol: But if that's what it is..ummm..ok then. I talk with the dead all the time. Sometimes because they call on me talk, and sometimes I I do a little ritual and meditate and call on them with questions..or just because I'm bored. I've never thought of calling up or talking with anyone I didn't know in life though. To me, that seems like taking unneccessary risk. You'd be leaving yourself open and vulnerable to whatever their motives are..and if you didn't know them, you don't know whether or not they are ill willed. Talking with the dead is sometihing I've always done. My great gramma did it, she was a little witchy herself lol. It comes naturally...and up until a few years ago it was something that I didnt' know everyone couldn't do without much effort.

As per the blood stuff, I hate cutting myself. I wont' do it unless I feel it's absolutely needed.

[mothwench]

necromancy? no! :shaker: blood magic? ummm. does carving your runes and then painting them with your blood count? yeah, i guess so.
what about you, muse sick?

[Yasmine Galenorn]

Do any of you practice any blood magick or necromancy?

If so, how do you go about it? Techniques, etc.?

Blood magic, yes...as long as it's my own blood or the blood of the person for whom I am doing the spell. It binds the spell to the caster. I just use my husband's lancet (he's a diabetic)--easy to get a few drops that way. Before we met, I used a razor blade to slice a little cut on a finger (always sterilized it though).

In terms of necromancy...well, my personal path places a high focus on working with the ancestors, so I suppose that could be considered necromancy by some.

Yasmine

[Klucky]

No! I refuse to participate in such a thing! Never have, never will! I find it very much against the religion. "Harm ye none", remember? *sighs* I find the idea of using blood (whether another's or your own) to be completely wrong. I always thought that only Satanists do such a thing because their supposed god likes to feast on such things. My gods don't want anything of the sort. I've always associated blood and the like with badness. We were all created with the blood to be held inside of us, so why are we purposely letting it out for our own personal gain?

I'm actually quite surprised how many said they did this stuff. Have I been misinformed all this time? I'm quite confused.

As for talking to the dead, I think I do. If I hear a voice, I'll hold a pleasant conversation. However, I never really thought of them as "dead"...just playful spirits or dragons.

-Klucky

[Yasmine Galenorn]

No! I refuse to participate in such a thing! Never have, never will! I find it very much against the religion. "Harm ye none", remember? *sighs* I find the idea of using blood (whether another's or your own) to be completely wrong. I always thought that only Satanists do such a thing because their supposed god likes to feast on such things. My gods don't want anything of the sort. I've always associated blood and the like with badness. We were all created with the blood to be held inside of us, so why are we purposely letting it out for our own personal gain?

I'm actually quite surprised how many said they did this stuff. Have I been misinformed all this time? I'm quite confused.

As for talking to the dead, I think I do. If I hear a voice, I'll hold a pleasant conversation. However, I never really thought of them as "dead"...just playful spirits or dragons.

-Klucky

Blood contains the essence of your being in it. Many of the old gods demanded blood, and some welcomed it, and I'm not necessarily talking about anybody else's but your own (though people need to accept the fact that a number of the older gods were--and probably still are--very bloodthirsty).

Blood is symbolic of our lifeforce. The King Stag is felled by the Hunter, the cycle of life turns and moves. In Voudoun and Santaria, blood is often used and not just in the spooky horror-story ways you see at the movies. There are many paths besides Wicca (indeed, my own is not Wiccan and I don't follow most Wiccan traditions), and many of those require you to get to know the physical world--blood, mess, and all--in an intimate way.

You never have to use it if it bothers you, but don't assume it's evil or harmful to use a few drops of your own blood in a spell that you want to strengthen, and as far as keeping blood 'inside us'...women bleed every month. Many women I know use their menstrual blood in spell work and ritual.

Yasmine

[Klucky]

Blood contains the essence of your being in it. Many of the old gods demanded blood, and some welcomed it, and I'm not necessarily talking about anybody else's but your own (though people need to accept the fact that a number of the older gods were--and probably still are--very bloodthirsty).

Blood is symbolic of our lifeforce. The King Stag is felled by the Hunter, the cycle of life turns and moves. In Voudoun and Santaria, blood is often used and not just in the spooky horror-story ways you see at the movies. There are many paths besides Wicca (indeed, my own is not Wiccan and I don't follow most Wiccan traditions), and many of those require you to get to know the physical world--blood, mess, and all--in an intimate way.

You never have to use it if it bothers you, but don't assume it's evil or harmful to use a few drops of your own blood in a spell that you want to strengthen, and as far as keeping blood 'inside us'...women bleed every month. Many women I know use their menstrual blood in spell work and ritual.

Yasmine

Mmm...I see what you mean. However, I personally still want to stay away from it.

-Klucky

[Hoot]

Though I'm strongly influenced by Wicca (as well as many other paths since I'm more "eclectic"), I'm not Wiccan. So I agree with Yasmine, and at any rate, have never been harmed in taking or using my own blood for a spell - but I'm very careful about it. Those seem to hold the most powerful results for me. But it's not for everyone, and if anyone holds deep reservations about it, then don't do it in your own magic.

[Klucky]

Though I'm strongly influenced by Wicca (as well as many other paths since I'm more "eclectic"), I'm not Wiccan. So I agree with Yasmine, and at any rate, have never been harmed in taking or using my own blood for a spell - but I'm very careful about it. Those seem to hold the most powerful results for me. But it's not for everyone, and if anyone holds deep reservations about it, then don't do it in your own magic.

Yes. Perfectly said.

I don't know why I'm so against it. I can't remember anybody flat out telling me in the beginning of my Wiccan-learning or whatnot. I figure it's just some underlying instinct, which makes me want all the more reason to not dabble. I must have had a bad experience in another life or something. Am I making any sense?

Maybe I'm just not fully understanding this. Maybe I've got the wrong kind of spells in mind when they involve blood and the like. Could anybody give me some sort of example?

-Klucky

[MysticMama]

because guns are for pussies and a necromancer uses the power that he EARNED and not bought very easily . . and also . . its not by choice (if i remember right) its just . . whoever HE TOUCHES AT ALL

Sheesh, could you use a more derogatory term? How about saying guns are for ingrown toenails or something?

I'm not affected by your tone, but your use of vocabulary is not only cretin it's extremely sexist.

[Klucky]

Sheesh, could you use a more derogatory term? How about saying guns are for ingrown toenails or something?

I'm not affected by your tone, but your use of vocabulary is not only cretin it's extremely sexist.

I think something's going on with us as a whole. People are being scolded, banned, and having threads closed because of what they are saying lately. I was overlooking it before, but now even I'VE done it and I don't want to hurt a person in the world! Is it the season, the current politics, the fact that we have an arcade? What is it?

-Klucky

[mothwench]

ask the astrologers, klucky. :)

[Yasmine Galenorn]

Yes. Perfectly said.

I don't know why I'm so against it. I can't remember anybody flat out telling me in the beginning of my Wiccan-learning or whatnot. I figure it's just some underlying instinct, which makes me want all the more reason to not dabble. I must have had a bad experience in another life or something. Am I making any sense?

Maybe I'm just not fully understanding this. Maybe I've got the wrong kind of spells in mind when they involve blood and the like. Could anybody give me some sort of example?

-Klucky

Here are a few examples: when I did a love spell, shortly before I met my current husband (of almost 11 years), I asked my goddess for a spell that would work in drawing the right person to me. She showed me in a dream, and one part of the spell involved lightly coating three candles with drops of my blood, to bind them to me in a way that couldn't be ignored---IOW: this spell was for me and nobody else. (The full spell is in Embracing The Moon, btw). A week later, I met my husband and we moved in the day we got together and have been together ever since.

If we really need something in our lives--for example, if my husband's contract ends and we need income right away, or if I'm doing a major warding spell for our home, I will use a few drops of our blood in the charms or on the candles used for those spells because that binds the spell intimately into our lives and yes, the blood seems to power it further.

The blood creates a bond between you and the spell so there can be no mistaking the aim of it.

When I pledged myself to Mielikki and Tapio so many years ago (my 12th anniversary in the Craft, which was 12 years ago next month on the 29th of February), I did so by heart, by blood, and by soul for this lifetime. An oath I cannot and will not break. By offering a few drops of my blood to them, I essentially offered them my life in service for this incarnation. If I had not been positive I was willing to bind myself for life to them, I would never have done it. I have never regretted it, either. :colorful:

So that's the sort of blood magic I tend to do. Does that explain things a bit more? (At least as far as my reasons go). And, as a few of us have said, if it doesn't feel right for you, then it probably isn't--so don't do it. You have to follow the path that is right for you.

Yasmine

[Klucky]

Here are a few examples: when I did a love spell, shortly before I met my current husband (of almost 11 years), I asked my goddess for a spell that would work in drawing the right person to me. She showed me in a dream, and one part of the spell involved lightly coating three candles with drops of my blood, to bind them to me in a way that couldn't be ignored---IOW: this spell was for me and nobody else. (The full spell is in Embracing The Moon, btw). A week later, I met my husband and we moved in the day we got together and have been together ever since.

If we really need something in our lives--for example, if my husband's contract ends and we need income right away, or if I'm doing a major warding spell for our home, I will use a few drops of our blood in the charms or on the candles used for those spells because that binds the spell intimately into our lives and yes, the blood seems to power it further.

The blood creates a bond between you and the spell so there can be no mistaking the aim of it.

When I pledged myself to Mielikki and Tapio so many years ago (my 12th anniversary in the Craft, which was 12 years ago next month on the 29th of February), I did so by heart, by blood, and by soul for this lifetime. An oath I cannot and will not break. By offering a few drops of my blood to them, I essentially offered them my life in service for this incarnation. If I had not been positive I was willing to bind myself for life to them, I would never have done it. I have never regretted it, either. :colorful:

So that's the sort of blood magic I tend to do. Does that explain things a bit more? (At least as far as my reasons go). And, as a few of us have said, if it doesn't feel right for you, then it probably isn't--so don't do it. You have to follow the path that is right for you.

Yasmine

Yes, that does explain things a bit more. Thank you.

-Klucky

[Stryder Wolf]

Necromancy has been intriguing more and more recently. Maybe it's because of what's going on, but I have way too much of my soul on the line. I refuse to repeat the same cycle again, I will not be Fate's pawn in the events in my life. It seems my school work takes the same direction as the interests I gain. Here I am, reading Dr. Faustus for my playwriting class, and writing story script detailing almost exactly what transpired to cause the emotions I feel now. I at least want to know, and I want to challenge it. I believe I've been fighting Fate since high school, and I intend to win by any means necessary. Anyone willing to give a relative newcomer some help or tutelage?

[KaliGiri5]

never try to bring one back, for they will not return as they were,---old gypsy tradition


It's more complexed than that.
You can't really bring back something that never leaves.
What we call "life" is a form of electricity...
we have electricity in our body just like a light bulb.
electricty doesn't die...it can be grounded but you don't kill it
our body is like the glass of the bulb..
the physical can break...and isn't even needed
but the power is still there.

some people use random unknown "spirits"
while others use traditional family "spirits"
which is the safest..
you don't raise them...you just call them to help you in need.
I use only people I have known...family I was close to
instead of calling a great great whatever.
you know that way who is positive and who is negative
who you can trust and who will turn on you.

the ones who use unknown..to me are crazy
why would they want to help you..
they have some people so far in it who keep parts of a body
in order to dominate the spirit that lived there..
kinda like a slave to do negative works by holding a skull or other body part.
like a spirit genie who is at your will..
that way is very dangerous..
because you don't really hold the spirit..he can and will make you pay
bad karma in the highest form.
like playing a God/Goddess

president bush is a member of a "secret" club which claims to have the skull
of geronimo and which they use for their power...they speak to it
geronimo's grave was robbed by "dubya's" grandfather..he took the skull
he was also a high member of this club.
if you ask me..they really should return the head,
speaking of head..
clinton is also a member...his fate was less than dubya's
what do they yell when they jump from planes?
what went through the twin towers...
some people never learn I guess
seems common sense would tell them..
you can't use people who wouldn't like you to help you.
:lol:

[moonmorgan]

I do not do Blood Magick but then again I'm a wuss. I would never prick a finger like that. I'm not too familiar with Necromancy, I only know it has to do with the dead so I can't really comment on that. While I don't see a problem with people practicing blood Magick, I believe there are limits as there are with most things. I could see it being fine if it was done under these conditions:
1. it's only YOUR Blood you extract and use.
2. you are just using enough, not bloodletting.

MHO of course.

[MuseSick]

I think its kinda amusing though that Christians, etc. look upon Pagans as a "race" of evil, evil people who sacrifice people in all their rituals, when it was because of God's request that Caine killed his brother, but now they cover up that fact by saying that he murdered him . . . . not sacrificed him. . . just a side thought

[Alexandra Asinine]

I feel blood magic is just another way to raise power. It is a way that is forbidden by my current path of study, so I do not do it, but aknowledge that it is effective for many. The old ways of blood magic are also dangerously unsanitary this day in age.

[redlady]

I use blood when I feel I need that extra,for lack of a better word, "zing" for a spell, usually a healing. I use my own,with sterile lancets of course. Since I am a witch,not a Wiccan, I make my own decision regarding what "Harming None" means. If my heart and soul are in a healing spell,why not my body,too?
As far as Necromancy goes, it only means talking to the dead. Speaking for myself, they mostly come unbidden, but my coven does invite-and I stress INVITE-those who have passed to join us at our Dumb Supper at Samhain. Nothing sinister there.......

[MuseSick]

I feel blood magic is just another way to raise power. It is a way that is forbidden by my current path of study, so I do not do it, but aknowledge that it is effective for many. The old ways of blood magic are also dangerously unsanitary this day in age.

magickal religions are not supposed to have "rules" . . . guidlines, but not rules

You can practice how you want. Theres nothing wrong about blood magick.

and just as redlady, I am a witch, but not a Wiccan . . . . I apply my own principles to my workings.

[WitchJezebel]

Don't know much about necromancy but I will use my own blood for spells and rituals. I've also used my best friends blood when she needed my help.

[9-2-2]

Yay! The first topic on blood magic that has not come under fire - yet.
I have no qualms with blood magick, unless I'm the one involved in the pain side of the ritual. :p
I will never use my own blood, because it provides others a direct connection into my own body. Also, I'm too much of a wuss when it comes to pain. I find it easier to slam a knife into someone else rather than slicing my finger open, as bad as that sounds. Not that I've slammed a knife into anyone for magick, and I hope not to (But if I absolutely have to, I will).
As for blood ritual and sacrifice - many moralists are against it, and that's understandable. I don't particularly like the idea of finding out that my fiance was taken by Bob the Bad Guy, but blood sacrifice is a valid - though unpopular - magickal focus. The spirit energy is taken from the victim for whatever purpose the magician has. Not a lot of energy is gained for the following reasons: the magician is often all emotional about it, and that screws up a lot of the energy. Also, a screaming, bawling victim screws up the energy. The sacker has to be emotionless, and the sacked has to be emotionless, too. That is why the more effective magicians in the past often drugged their victims, so the energy wouldn't dissipate.

Just be aware of the fact that sacrificing eventually resonates into your soul, and your aura and psychology will eventually become a bit strange, because of the frequent working with death energy and connections to the underworld.

[amberwolf]

If a spell or ritual called for me using my own blood I wouldnt have a problem with doing so...

[MuseSick]

Just be aware of the fact that sacrificing eventually resonates into your soul, and your aura and psychology will eventually become a bit strange, because of the frequent working with death energy and connections to the underworld.

I never though about that.

However, it is not any energies of death that I am using (usually) when I use blood in my magick. Its more of a means to put my own energies into the working, like adding a signature.

[Hoot]

I don't think that "death energy" and blood magic are necessarily entwined. In fact, consider that I put my own fire element/ essence of my body's life into a spell for myself when I use a little of my blood (from my finger), and have had extremely positive results when I've worked it carefully and thoughtfully.

[Avalon]

I have yet to use blood in a ritual, but I am not against it...I know that certain abilities I have are stronger around the time of my menstrual period, and so I would have no problem incorporating that blood into a spell as well...

As for necromancy, I honor my Beloved Dead, but that's about the extent of my experiences with it...

[Yasmine Galenorn]

I don't think that "death energy" and blood magic are necessarily entwined. In fact, consider that I put my own fire element/ essence of my body's life into a spell for myself when I use a little of my blood (from my finger), and have had extremely positive results when I've worked it carefully and thoughtfully.

To me, blood and life are entwined. Blood is life force concentrated, so when I want to give a spell more life, I use my blood.

LOL, my husband's diabetic, sometimes when I'm casting a spell for us I'll be hovering over him when he tests his blood sugar..."Can I have a few drops, sweetie?" and he'll be like..."Sure, how much you want?"

Yasmine :colorful:

[Aidron]

I haven't pracitced using actual blood in my magic for some years. I however, have no qualms about it, I simply couldn't tolerate the pain anymore. :lol: I can handle shots, I can handle root canals, but pricking my finger, god/dess no!

If I am performing a spell for someone beside myself and they wish to provide me with a blood sample, I would be more than happy to use it. However, since I normally do not perform spells for anyone I don't know quite well, I really don't need to worry about HIV and other diseases similar in nature, but should there ever come a time when it may rise as a concern, I would never physically touch the blood without plastic gloves. Magic is one thing, a foolish risk is another.

A person's blood, much like every part of their body contains their genetic make-up (DNA), which defines us as individuals within the realm as science, as well as magic (I believe). It is innately connected to our spirit, if you even believe they are seperated. This is why utilizing anything containing our own DNA from a lock of hair, to blood, to fingernail clippings can serve to truly empower a magical working beyond belief at times.

In regards to necromancy, it is defined as working with the spirits of the dead in order to predict the future and perform magical endeavors, though depending on whom you speak to or what information you are looking at, it could also include commanding spirits do to your bidding. As anyone who does delve into the magical arts should know, it is never wise to seek to command anything, as you will only serve to tick it off, producing an relationship between you that lacks harmony and the proper foundation for working together. Outside of that, ancestral magic has been very prominent throughout Earth's history and some religions even are based entirely upon the honoring of your ancestors. I in turn do work a great deal with departed relatives, and find them extremely potent in working protective magics together. Afterall, if you have family that cared for you deeply and that you cared/care for, they will protect you fiercely. The same could be said of a very close friend though, as well. I have never worked with them for divination purposes, as I have a variety of other ways that I am comfortable in working with, but for guidance? You bet. I'm not at all reluctant to call upon my mother's mother for assistance. We were extremely close and I always call on her first in my family blood line.

[Klucky]

I think one of my biggest problems is my fear of needles/sharp, pointy things. I just couldn't handle it. However, menstrual blood I agree with. Although it's probably messy...

But, you know, it's gotta come out of you anyway! :lol:

-Klucky

[Aidron]

I think one of my biggest problems is my fear of needles/sharp, pointy things. I just couldn't handle it. However, menstrual blood I agree with. Although it's probably messy...

But, you know, it's gotta come out of you anyway! :lol:

-Klucky


Blasted women, getting a free dose of blood without having your finger stuck. :razz:

This is an excellent idea, though not new concept in the least. Should any women wish to pursue utilizing blood within magical endeavors, this is a remarkable source to tap into. It can get messy though, as well as unsanitary if not handled properly. (You don't want to hear the stories I could tell regarding this, so don't ask. :lol: )

[aftershocked]

Personally I don't see the need to use blood in magic. In my views, the Gods gave us blood, the source of our physical life, to learn lessons and better honor Them. It is how we use the life from the blood, not the blood itself, that uses the most power. Then again, that's just my opinion.

And I'm too much of a wimp to cut myself. Although my current path does hae very strict purity standards, and open wounds is a big no-no.

The closest I get to Necromancy is honoring my beloved dead and the anual Dia de los Muertos festival in Mexicantown.

I have no problem with others doing either of these practices, because I have no idea what their relationship with Deity incurs. Maybe some like that, but mine just find it redundant, in the least.

[Ramases1]

i have not tried either...yet. as far as i know theres nothing wrong with either, though raising dead does seem unlikly, but this is magik were talking about and nothing is impossible. raiseing the dead though... bad idea but there are many nutters would try, thankfully most do not know any of the theory behind it so will fail, but for those who do, it is we who must know enough to puta stop to it

[Meadhbh]

I use blood in magic quiet often actually. Its not for everyone and a lot of people are oppossed to it for one reason or another. I've never had an issue with using it, it does give your spell or ritual a added kick and some people simply can't handle some of its other effects. I think a lot of people don't because they think it brakes the wiccan rede. As for as necromancy goes I've never done it, although I have nothing againist it. I have enough contact with the dead without having to ask them to come.

[gurlygurl2004]

I'm a bit of a wuss. When I feel I need blood for anything, I use an egg :lol:
Seriously, I figure it's still a biological element, so an egg is a good symbol of life/lifeforce etc.

Now, my partner on the other hand, will cheerfully slice his thumb and use drops of blood as offerings when he feels necessary (not very often)

Necromancy intrigues me....it will be interesting to read replies to this thread.


How does he slice his thumb?

[gurlygurl2004]

I think one of my biggest problems is my fear of needles/sharp, pointy things. I just couldn't handle it. However, menstrual blood I agree with. Although it's probably messy...

But, you know, it's gotta come out of you anyway! :lol:

-Klucky

I thought about that before, if I ever use blood in magick, just use it during my period....:lol:

[gurlygurl2004]

Do any of you practice any blood magick or necromancy?

If so, how do you go about it? Techniques, etc.?

Necromancy? No, but I have thought of it. I have a fear of ghosts, and spirits, so it's hard for me to do that. Imagine, a witch with a ghosts/spirit phobia, :lol: :lol:

[Garm]

i have not tried either...yet. as far as i know theres nothing wrong with either, though raising dead does seem unlikly, but this is magik were talking about and nothing is impossible. raiseing the dead though... bad idea but there are many nutters would try, thankfully most do not know any of the theory behind it so will fail, but for those who do, it is we who must know enough to puta stop to it

Why condemn an act you have already comitted?
:hahugh:
http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/necromancer.htm

[semi]

I work with the dead every day. I don't "raise" them, they're already there, just hanging out. And blood is just another dispensible tool, as far as I'm concerned. I have never purposely used it, but during a ceremony to bless some drums, including mine, I drummed so hard and for so long that my hands bled all over the drum head, so I effectively baptized my drum with my blood. It liked it a lot. So did I.

[Teresa]

I have communicated with the dead from an early age and I still talk to spirits on a daily basis. I however have never attempted to raise any dead or anything like that. I used my own blood for things like my runes, and my mojo bag before but I do not use blood that often. I was once told it is very risky to offer some of your blood to the spirits and I have never attempted that. Instead I offer good liquor and cigars or things like that.

[Garm]

I am not really sure about the reasoning that links blood with necromancy

A syringe is part of my ritual paraphenelia and to me it's just dipping into an inkwell, a small purba serves as quill, wand and the more mundane function of keychain when not in Majickal use

I don't apreciate someone sticking an alarm clock in my face and waking me up so I am not about to do anything resembling that to someone else

[gurlygurl2004]

I work with the dead every day. I don't "raise" them, they're already there, just hanging out. And blood is just another dispesible tool, as far as I'm concerned. I have never purposely used it, but during a ceremony to bless some drums, including mine, I drummed so hard and for so long that my hands bled all over the drum head, so I effectively baptized my drum with my blood. It liked it a lot. So did I.

:nuhuh: I can't imagine beating something so hard my palms bleed.

[semi]

:nuhuh: I can't imagine beating something so hard my palms bleed.

The palms and fingers just swell up and go numb. But a priest, or rather the loa riding him, pressed something into my hand while I was drumming. I didn't want to stop drumming and look at it or put it somewhere so I held it in my fist and had to use a closed hand to drum. It gradually wore holes into my knuckles. So by the end, the drum head was bloody and it looked like I had a red glove on my right hand. And my hand was sort of locked shut because of being squeezed into a fist for a couple hours, sealed shut with blood, and the thing the priest gave me still inside. It was an interesting experience. Fun.

That's the only time I've ever used blood and I didn't really do it on purpose. I've had women offer me their menstrual blood to use, but I really don't feel that I have a use for blood. And if I did, I'd use red palm oil or red wine, both of which get the same results as using actual blood. It's the intent that matters, not the specific tool being used. So why bleed? Why make others bleed? Anything can be made into a specific tool if the right intent is put into it. A cup of milk or water could be used as blood if you intend it as such. I know that a lot of people are into the theatre/drama of ritual and need certain tools, phrases, actions, etc, and that's fine, but I'm not into that and don't need it. I like to be creative and improvise. More fun that way.