What Is THIS?!

[Antoninus]

Lately, Ive been writing things down in this little compposition book. But....I dont know what it is im writing. The "words" are just collections of straight and semi-curved lines, it looks like Chineese, Hindu, and Arabic letters all thrown into a blender and whipped around. I feel this...wierd impulse to just keep writing, I dont even know what the characters are or what they mean. I know two languages, English and Bad English and I can write in both, but this isnt anything I can recognize. Normally I wouldve just attributed it to general wierdness but I feel like....like I should be doing it, like I was ASSIGNED to do it. So far I have 1 sheet of notebook paper filled back and front and 45 pages of a 100 page composition book filled with these characters. What does this mean?

[Storm]

Well it sounds like you are automatic writing. There are two different thoughts as to what automatic writing is. 1.that it is your subconscious comunicating things you don't consciously know. 2. That a spirit is comunicating...much like a Quija board. I believe it can be both. I have read of accounts of people creating great works of poetry or music compositions...claiming to have automatic writen...by spirits of famous composers...poets..etc. Take those stories with a grain of salt but also an open mind. Perhaps if you could post a picture of what you are doing someone might recognise it as something that exists. If not take it to mean you subconsciously or a spirit is comunicating but the energy is lacking to form actual letters. I automatic write by a spirit named amanda who has predicted many surprising events(not anything that could be expected) on more than a few occations. I feel instinctually what letter she is trying to form and I help. If I assume the wrong letter I feel her fight me and redirect me. I try to communicate with my subconscience or to spirits of family but it is always her who comes through. She claims to be a spirit guide but she doesn't always seem to have my best interests in mind. Many times she spouts nonsense and I doubt she is anything more than my subconscience. But then she throws out a prediction of irrelevence to prove she is something...(your neighbor is about to come running out of his house and jump in the car and drive off as if he is in a hurry) and (no it wasn't a normal everyday occurance, time to go to work or something like that). Try to develope an intuition as to what letter the spirit is trying to form. Spirits are energy and can only expend so much energy trying to communicate with us. Sometimes they need us to help.

[Antoninus]

Here it is, theres about 52 pages of it now

[Storm]

fascinating! However, I haven't a clue what they are.

[Antoninus]

Its just rows and colums of characters like that, no two are identical, I looked. I cant figgure out what it is, what it says, or where its comming from

[cloud]

interesting. kind of reminds me of japanese, but i'm pretty sure it's not.

[Antoninus]

I KNOW its not, I cant write Japanese, I cant read it, I cant speak it, thats whats so freaky.

[Hoot]

That is wild, but no clue here either. Do you see any patterns, or repeated characters? And I wonder what a cryptographer might have to say...

I was going to mention automatic writing, but Storm beat me to it. You might want to look it up. The poet William Butler Yeats's wife did quite a lot of automatic writing, if I remember correctly.

[Antoninus]

I havent seen any repeating patterns, all the characters are variations of the ones in the picture, lines changed around or the figgures more complex. I havent seen any repetition or pattern.

[punxzen]

its almost like yer subconsciously playing with creating a new written language of symbols. where you take it is up to you but you could some amazing shit with that. i looked through that page you posted and it looks almost like your mind is just evolving the symbol everytime but what its evolving to is impossible to say really.

that is really amazing =D

did you say you have 45 pages filled?!

thats a LOT heh, i would like to look at them but i certainly wouldnt ask you to scan em all. im sure something will occur to you eventually as to WHY you are doing this.

[Antoninus]

Yeah because theres no hesitation when I write the stuff down, its like Im writing in English, but no two symbols are alike. Actually, I was looking through it a few minnutes ago and I DO see a pattern, very subtile but its still a pattern. In the beginning of the book, the symbols are defined, theyre solid and not very elegant looking, but when I get up to the point where Im wiritng currently, they look much more graceful and fluid, the lines are quick strokes and smooth curves, almost like its refining itself.

[Antoninus]

Here are the pictures of the first and 47th page, now that I look I can see a real difference, I dont know if you can see it.

[cloud]

yeah, i see the difference. still, very interesting.

[Hoot]

Actually, I was looking through it a few minnutes ago and I DO see a pattern, very subtile but its still a pattern. In the beginning of the book, the symbols are defined, theyre solid and not very elegant looking, but when I get up to the point where Im wiritng currently, they look much more graceful and fluid, the lines are quick strokes and smooth curves, almost like its refining itself.

That generally happens with almost all handwriting, calligraphy, or drawing - the longer the writer sits at a session, the better produced the characters and lines begin to look - more gestural - graceful and fluid, as you put it. The old adage of "practice makes perfect" comes to mind. (Until the writer gets tired, anyway.)

The types of patterns I was wondering about earlier were repititions of characters that may indicate a type of systematic language - at least all the languages we know about, anyway.

[Sylvan]

Some of them almost look like simplified cuneiform....

[Thistle]

Interesting. It does sort of seem like automatic writing. Why not try asking for a translation, since you can't make any sense of what's being written down? Just a thought.

[Cobalt Cobra]

That is so interesting! I kid you not, I used to 'auto write' characters incredibly similar to the ones you have in those photos. Mine had a bit more curve to them, but they were very, VERY close. It almost looks as though they were the same, just with different handwriting taken into consideration.

Fascinating...

[Hoot]

Some of them almost look like simplified cuneiform....

I agree.

[AmbivalentMirage]

Some of them almost look like simplified cuneiform....
Exactly. It reminds me of Phonecian (early)... Hmm... I'll do some more research and get back to you.

Some of the letters look like modern printed Hebrew, for instance, a few look like the letter "lamed".

[Romani Vixen]

How does one automatically write (other than feeling a need to get it out). And what is the purpose?

[Cerulean]

Looks most like cuneiform to me. You were either channeling from a being or remembering your past lives. The invention of writing was tremendously important and our hands remember it. Originally God helped channel this knowledge to those who could hear him or her too.

[Xentor]

How does one automatically write (other than feeling a need to get it out). And what is the purpose?
The purpose is the same as with reading tarots, runes, projecting astrally, or any kind of divination. Someone or something is trying to tell something, and chooses you to convey their message. Depending on what kind of stimulus you're most receptive to, various kinds of media will be tried. Writing is one of them.

[Antoninus]

Well, whats this MEAN? Is someone just trying to tell me something or am I just going crazy??

[Hoot]

FalconSong, because I've never done it, or seen it done, I couldn't tell you how to auto-write, though off the top of my head and from what I've read, I would think the writer would enter almost a trance in which they just write - almost a stream of consciousness type of exercise. In theory, they become a conduit for expressing thoughts beyond their own.

Xentor is right. It's another form of divination, and I think it was a fairly popular one around the turn of the last century.

[Sylvan]

I'm sorry, but every time I see the thread title, I want to say "Christmastown?!?!?"

~naughty zoot!

[Hoot]

:lol: You deserve to be karma-kazied for that, Kurgurra, but I'm all out. Grrr.

[turtlerain46]

It almost looks runic. Hmm that's my opinion, but really it looks very much like Japanese. One possibility is that you were Japanese (or someother eastern culture with similar writting) in a past life. It may be a subconcious connection to your past life. I really think this is the most probable explanation, considering how close it is to japanese, it probably isn't exactly Japanese because in your current life you "speka da englash". Well that's my opinion, but if it continues I would definitly seek out a professional and get their opinion.

[Ouroboros]

Lately, Ive been writing things down in this little compposition book. But....I dont know what it is im writing. The "words" are just collections of straight and semi-curved lines, it looks like Chineese, Hindu, and Arabic letters all thrown into a blender and whipped around. I feel this...wierd impulse to just keep writing, I dont even know what the characters are or what they mean. I know two languages, English and Bad English and I can write in both, but this isnt anything I can recognize. Normally I wouldve just attributed it to general wierdness but I feel like....like I should be doing it, like I was ASSIGNED to do it. So far I have 1 sheet of notebook paper filled back and front and 45 pages of a 100 page composition book filled with these characters. What does this mean?

I've been doing that for years, click on the link that follows this image to see the root folder of the few i've scanned :

http://www.thecreativegeek.com/~wyrm/images/drawings/nosword.jpg

http://www.thecreativegeek.com/~wyrm/images/drawings/

What i've ended up doing was letting my minds eye guide the pen, when I felt a form present I'd continue to attempt to make this strange language form into the shape coming through. I started doing things like this in '98, if you see any image with "old_" before it, it was made at the start of my "channeling" (if that's what I can call it)

[Ouroboros]

Here it is, theres about 52 pages of it now

52 pages of 9 columns of characters? how many rows?

[jelly.belly]

Wow, thats very cool! Well, first thing that came to mind was "past life" but it's already been mentioned... It could be a lost language or something like that! ;) :)

[Lucius]

It is definitely not Japanese because I looked and I can read, speak, and write Japanese. Those are no where near what Japanese looks like. With the angular shapes of the 'letters', it looks more like Korean (which btw, I know it isnt...I'm just saying it reminds me of Korean). I don't think that is an existing language. Maybe it is an ancient one, or maybe it's just nonsense. Who knows?? But, I do agree with the automatic writing comment.

[Kadynas]

It does look like some form of cuneiform... thought what I couldn't say... There are parts of it that look like a cross between Nordic runes and Native American stick figure type drawings... It would be amazing if it actually meant something and we could figure it out! Maybe it's the constellations of some other solar system ala "Flight of the Navigator"... :lol: Hopefully you can find some way to see what it means... I'm intrigued.
Falcon: Automatic writing is almost like using a ouiji board, except instead of a board, you have a pen paper and ask the "spirits" to write "through" you somehow... I've never tried it myself... :)

[Ouroboros]

It does look like some form of cuneiform... thought what I couldn't say... There are parts of it that look like a cross between Nordic runes and Native American stick figure type drawings... It would be amazing if it actually meant something and we could figure it out! Maybe it's the constellations of some other solar system ala "Flight of the Navigator"... :lol: Hopefully you can find some way to see what it means... I'm intrigued.
Falcon: Automatic writing is almost like using a ouiji board, except instead of a board, you have a pen paper and ask the "spirits" to write "through" you somehow... I've never tried it myself... :)

Don't knock alien writing, not all who incarnate on this planet come from the planet itself.

Something I don't normally recommend for people, but a story is kept within this book written by Drunvalo Melchizedek called "The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life". He tells of a scenario where this man from japan kept writing this language, which he could read perfectly but noone else could. The man was asked to attend something, a bunch of people were present, when the host unveiled the artwork everyone's jaw dropped because all of them could speak the same language. Alotta tears on job i'll bet.

[Aidron]

Personally it looks like a combination of several languages to me.

Have you ever studied various languages, or even glanced at them briefly? Your subconcious may have latched onto key parts of the language, absorbed it, and is not distributing it back out through your meditations to deliver a message unto you.

At the very least I would use what you have to create your own unique language. Turn the mystery into something positive.

[wandering_monk]

While looking at your pictures I noticed that on the first page one of the drawings seems incorporates all the key points of the constellation of Orion. The more I looked at the earlier drawings the more it reminded my of the astronomy course I have taken and the study of Egyptian history I have delved into. They were obsessed with the after life and that after life was to rise into the sky and become one with the stars, but mainly this was in the duat and involved the constellation of Orion.

I wish I had all my books on hand right now, but I know that at least one of the other drawings is a constellation that I cannot recall the name of. You really might want to check into that.

[pawnman]

This is an interesting mystery. I was thinking that alot of the figures looked like stick people. I'm thinking, either this spirit (or your subconsious) doesn't have much to say, or this is an symbolic language, like japanese and chinese, where each character stands for one word. I think that is the most likely scenario. Have you tried puncuating it? Try sitting down with the book and feeling around for where the periods, question marks, and exclamation points go. If we can get that far, we will know how many characters there are in the average sentence.

I did notice that the characters not only flow more as time goes on, but they also get more complex. Hmmm. I'll be watching this thread to see if you come up with anything.

[Antoninus]

Have you ever studied various languages, or even glanced at them briefly? Your subconcious may have latched onto key parts of the language, absorbed it, and is not distributing it back out through your meditations to deliver a message unto you.
Ive never studdied other languages before but Ive definately seen them before as a result of my years as a gamer and an interest in art.

This feels kinda like writing a book, there are some times when I HAVE to sit down and add something to it or Ill be distracted till I do. Then sometimes Ill want to, but then again Im not really in the mood. There still has been no real discernable pattern or sequence that Ive been able to see, I cant find any repeated characters, I can find some that are VERY similar, but no exact repitition.

[Ouroboros]

While looking at your pictures I noticed that on the first page one of the drawings seems incorporates all the key points of the constellation of Orion. The more I looked at the earlier drawings the more it reminded my of the astronomy course I have taken and the study of Egyptian history I have delved into. They were obsessed with the after life and that after life was to rise into the sky and become one with the stars, but mainly this was in the duat and involved the constellation of Orion.

I wish I had all my books on hand right now, but I know that at least one of the other drawings is a constellation that I cannot recall the name of. You really might want to check into that.

Correction: The Egyptians believed the constellation Orion to be "Osiris" :shhhh:

[Ouroboros]

basically of the things a mad scientist like me would do is the following:

Assess what kind of person I truly am, a math being, a spiritual being, both?

How many characters are there total, how many rows total.

Key differences between characters, combinations of characters, drawings formed out of characters (key element right here).

Symbolic meaning of characters to the self, symbolic meaning to everything else (get opinions of friends and family on the Specific Symbolic meaning a character or set of characters has to them).

Meditate on each character and ask yourself deeply what it stands for, ensure there is full communication, there's many ways to stabilize an active corpus calloseum letting both sides of the mind communicate. If you find yourself still "Confused" about the characters then "Heal Thyself" with whatever means neccessary.

Lastly, even if the characters were done in an attention getting scheme - it is your life, it is your art, all of life and art of your own you should treat sacred.

[wandering_monk]

Correction: The Egyptians believed the constellation Orion to be "Osiris" :shhhh:

I am a little confused with the correction. I never said that Orion was the celestrial representaion of anything, but Osiris. I mentioned the "Duat" as it is a celestrial location linked with Orion/Osiris as it is known as the "Kingdom of Osiris". I am not sure if this is what the attempted correction is for, but if you could explain it that would be great. Otherwise I have no idea what you are attempting to correct. Thanks!

[SnowStar]

In response to all of the implications about alien writing, I must say that my imagination has gotten the better of me. I saw an episode of The Outer Limits a few days ago, and it was about a deaf lady who had an implant that was supposed to help her hear, but it failed. However, the implant functioned as a reciever for an alien transmission of a form of binary code that conveyed both a visual message and then a textual one asking for help. She felt compelled to write down what she heard in her head, which was the binary code. Of course, everyone thought she was crazy, but in the end it actually wound up that everything was not just in her head and that what she was convinced of was real.

Reading this post made me think of that. Now, I know that it's probably the science fiction geek in me getting the better of my reasonable logic, but maybe it is a possibility that you're being contacted somehow. I'd be interested to find out how this all turns out if you can ever determine the purpose of these characters.

[Antoninus]

I dont have a hearing aide, or even pieces of metal in my body

[SnowStar]

well, that wasn't quite what I meant by my post, I just said that it made me think of it. It's quite possible that it's a totally organic thing.

[Convallaria]

Whatever it is, when I followed it from right to left, starting at the bottom I felt very calm. I have 3 exams this week so calm isnt normal for me. It felt like the pattern was making a pulse in my mind.. I have no idea how to put this feeling into words.... lol.
am i the only one who noticed this?
its like the linear patterns forced me to concentrate on one thing and I followed it in almost a 1-2-3,1-2-3 beat and I just felt more calm.. like listening to drumming.

[Ouroboros]

I am a little confused with the correction. I never said that Orion was the celestrial representaion of anything, but Osiris. I mentioned the "Duat" as it is a celestrial location linked with Orion/Osiris as it is known as the "Kingdom of Osiris". I am not sure if this is what the attempted correction is for, but if you could explain it that would be great. Otherwise I have no idea what you are attempting to correct. Thanks!

cripes, mom used to always tell me never correct your elders...

:zzz:

[Ouroboros]

Whatever it is, when I followed it from right to left, starting at the bottom I felt very calm. I have 3 exams this week so calm isnt normal for me. It felt like the pattern was making a pulse in my mind.. I have no idea how to put this feeling into words.... lol.
am i the only one who noticed this?
its like the linear patterns forced me to concentrate on one thing and I followed it in almost a 1-2-3,1-2-3 beat and I just felt more calm.. like listening to drumming.

Think outside linear...think circular, think spherical, multidimensional. Try finding anagrams within it, do some homework with yourself. You'll find it quite rewarding.

[HalfExistent]

Dude, if you're recieving some kind of alien Declaration of War and you don't figure it out, there are going to be a lot of red faces when the world ends. :-P

[libragrrl]

lol @ HalfExistent :D

[Teshuva3D]

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[Antoninus]

:D well I dont know what it says, but something keeps telling me to just keep going.

[mydemand]

Hi there,

I was looking through old MW posts and this got my attention - mainly because I remember writing similar symbols too. Mine were more rounded, but there are some similarities. I don't have then saved though.

Have you figured out anything from it yet? All I can see is that some of the characters resemble Chinese. But that's about it.

Good luck!

B*B, Tiara

[Antoninus]

Nothing yet, Im starting to get a small library together. About 4 and a half notebooks so far and Ive burned out about 10 to 15 pens so far. The characters havent changed that much, the style has somewhat shifted, but not much.

[Shidge.]

This is my theory on it:

Sometimes in dreams, I will "read something".. Whenever my unconscious mind writes it out, though, it appears as a tangled mass of lines, but my mind goes "Oh, that says ___".

I think that is what is happening here. The unconscious static that normally goes unnoticed has become mildly apparent to you, but is still un-definable.

Kind of like your subconscious thoughts are encrypted, and what you are writing in is the language of the mind? (Not THE mind, but at least your mind)

I dont know if any of that made sense, but if you it did, thats what I think is happening to you.

As to why are you feeling compelled to write this, I have a theory, but its purely psychological and not super-natural or anything.

[Antoninus]

Why? Hmm...well, dyou ever walk into your living room and see a cup sitting right in the middle of the floor. It doesnt directly hit you that you should pick it up but it gnaws at your mind. It just bugs the crap out of you untill you just go DO IT. Its kinda like that.

[hamletincarnate]

Antonius, do you FEEL any cultural link to the writing or past lives? my automatic writing is unintelligable but it looks like it wants to be arabic, and i feel like it wants to be arabic. dunno. listen to yourself for clues perhaps.

[Threase]

Just subscribing to the thread, I want updates too...