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Draedon
July 8th, 2001, 02:45 PM
I just wanted to offer a tribute to the Druids. I'm not really an expert on the Druids, so I may have a few things wrong, but here's my view:
They managed to co-habit with the celts, who, although relatively docile, seem to have been pretty hard to live with. You had to defeat the celts in battle to earn their respect, and the celts were pretty hard to beat (they wiped out the prytani, etc, but were eventually buggered by the saxons).
The Druids not only became the priest caste of celtic society, but they also became its champion warriors. The Druids were renowned for being extremely brave and hardened fighters. Even the Romans said that the Druids were hard bastards.
The Druids had an excellent take on the idea of reincarnation, based on the turning of the seasons.
All in all, a pretty cool bunch. There are very few people who could lead spiritually and in battle.
Maggie
July 8th, 2001, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Draedon
I just wanted to offer a tribute to the Druids. I'm not really an expert on the Druids, so I may have a few things wrong, but here's my view:
They managed to co-habit with the celts, who, although relatively docile, seem to have been pretty hard to live with. You had to defeat the celts in battle to earn their respect, and the celts were pretty hard to beat (they wiped out the prytani, etc, but were eventually buggered by the saxons).
The Druids not only became the priest caste of celtic society, but they also became its champion warriors. The Druids were renowned for being extremely brave and hardened fighters. Even the Romans said that the Druids were hard bastards.
The Druids had an excellent take on the idea of reincarnation, based on the turning of the seasons.
All in all, a pretty cool bunch. There are very few people who could lead spiritually and in battle.
The Druids WERE celts, not a separate people. While some druids perhaps were pretty good with a sword, they did not supplant the warrior caste among celtic society. Might also point out that Bishop Odo was William the Conqueror's half-brother (I seem to remember) and he rode with William as a knight as well as priest. Such things might be uncommon but not unknown among other religions.
Regards,
Maggie
Rævyn Cigány
July 9th, 2001, 06:56 PM
tsk tsk Maggie, the man was offering a compliment! The least you can do is say 'thank you'!! ;) :p
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Maggie
July 9th, 2001, 10:58 PM
Originally posted by Rævyn Cigány
tsk tsk Maggie, the man was offering a compliment! The least you can do is say 'thank you'!! ;) :p
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Ayup, the celts and the druids were tough. However, as the apparently resident curmudgeon I have to act curmudgeonly at least once in awhile, and the belief that Celts and Druids were separate people is enough some nights to make me act curmudgeonly.
Regards,
Maggie:uzi:
Mairwen
July 9th, 2001, 11:33 PM
Heh. Gray Lady. My cat's name is Grey Lady. :D
Maggie
July 10th, 2001, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by Mairwen
Heh. Gray Lady. My cat's name is Grey Lady. :D
I'm honored to share a name with a cat, I can only aspire to their personification of polite increduality at the antics of humans. Cats sit at the never to be reached by mere humans pinnacle of perfection..........
Regards,
Maggie
Rævyn Cigány
July 10th, 2001, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Maggie
Ayup, the celts and the druids were tough. However, as the apparently resident curmudgeon I have to act curmudgeonly at least once in awhile, and the belief that Celts and Druids were separate people is enough some nights to make me act curmudgeonly.
Regards,
Maggie:uzi:
hehehe All Hail Curmudgeonly One!! :p
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Mairwen
July 10th, 2001, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by Maggie
Cats sit at the never to be reached by mere humans pinnacle of perfection..........Maggie
Cats are the true Zen Masters. :D
Draedon
July 10th, 2001, 06:21 AM
I'm going to cause trouble here if I'm not careful, but from my studies I am convinced that the Druids were a seperate people. I'll get back to you. There's something I have to read.
Maggie
July 10th, 2001, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Draedon
I'm going to cause trouble here if I'm not careful, but from my studies I am convinced that the Druids were a seperate people. I'll get back to you. There's something I have to read.
Oh, asking questions never causes problems, but the thing is you may not like the answers you get! :D
Regards,
Maggie
Twig
July 11th, 2001, 09:48 PM
Greeting Draedon!! Don't mind our resident historian ;), she gets worked up at times. hehehe.
I do agree with her though. Most all liturature and research points to the druids being an integral part of the tribes of the celts.
I personally belive that there were probably wandering druids. Men that administered to the tribes that had no wise man to perform the rituals that were so important to them. But, as a whole, the druids were most assuradly[sp] celts in themselves.
Or as I like to say:
All Druids are celtic but,
Not all celts were Druids.
Peace,
Twig
:elf:
PS Some maintain that the Druids were Atlantian in nature!:eek:
Mairwen
July 11th, 2001, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by Draedon
I'm going to cause trouble here if I'm not careful, but from my studies I am convinced that the Druids were a seperate people.
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That's gotta be one of the funniest things I've ever seen!!
Draedon
July 12th, 2001, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by Twig
PS Some maintain that the Druids were Atlantian in nature!:eek:
I have made intensive studies on the subject of Atlantis, and on the studies of astronomy in ancient civilisations. I have found a lot of evidence to support the idea that the Druids were 'Atlantian' (though I wish to seperate from the mythological 'Atlantis' in this). It all ties in with the fact that around 15,000 years ago a race of people developed astronomy, agriculture and other sciences, as well as sea-faring, and then went around the world teaching what they had learned. A number of this race came to the UK and became the Druids. The evidence is there, but nothing definite.
Draedon
July 12th, 2001, 10:27 AM
If you read http://draedon.cc/writings/atlantis.htm and http://draedon.cc/writings/astronomy.htm and consider these within the context of what I've said, you can decide for yourself what you think.
The idea that I am suggesting is that every ancient civilisation appears to have been founded by a small delagation of teachers from an orginal location, which for the sake of argument we shall call Atlantis (but not necessarily the mythological sunken city of Atlanitis). These teachers started out across the seas about 15,000 years ago, and taught agriculture and astronomy, among other sciences, and spirituality/religion to the tribes they encountered across the five continents (one for each of the visible planets) that they went to. The significance of the fact that they visited a continent for each of the visible continents is paramount considering the astronomical basis of the civilisatiuons they founded. It was through astronomy that these people recorded their history in myths. Anyway, I'm going into this in far too much detail now. The point is: The Druids were (unless anyone has an alternative view) an isolated caste within the celtic peoples, and it is quite possible that the Druids had a different ancestry and heritage from the rest of the celtic peoples.
Draedon
July 12th, 2001, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Twig
I do agree with her though. Most all liturature and research points to the druids being an integral part of the tribes of the celts.
No one could deny that Druids were an integral part of celtic society, but there is no evidence that the Druids were part of the same gene pool. The two lived as one, but did they come from the same place? Is it impossible that they had seperate ancestries and heritages?
Maggie
July 12th, 2001, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Draedon
No one could deny that Druids were an integral part of celtic society, but there is no evidence that the Druids were part of the same gene pool. The two lived as one, but did they come from the same place? Is it impossible that they had seperate ancestries and heritages?
What is your evidence that they were separate?
Regards,
Maggie
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