[POLL] Do you use a Circle...

[mol]

In Magick Class | Lesson 2 I learned that quite a few people do not use Circles in Magickal Workings....this intrigued me because i always have.

Now, this is a POLL so...

Do you use a Circle in Magickal Workings?

[Polaris]

MM
again.spacebar.not.working.sorry....

i.usually.use.a.circle.but.sometimes.i.dont.if.ifeel.safe.and.relaxed..
i.often.only.do.a.circle.if.there.are.people.near.me.so.i.dent.get.any.negative.energies..

Polaris

spacebar.should.be.working.soon-sorry!

[Trevi]

Honestly, I CAN'T use a circle. My apartment is EXCRUCIATINGLY small and there are 6 of us, 2 cats a huge green parrot and 2 dogs here! Not to mention the turtle's tank! There are 2 bedrooms and 600 square feet of living space, so it's a little too crowded to even SPIN in a circle!! I look forward to the day when we move into a house that has enough room for me to have an altar and my own private space to use a circle in all my magical endeavors.

[Lynnaea]

But you don't have to do a full formal casting to put up a circle, you can just visualize a circle around the walls of your apartment. You can put a circle around your car when you are driving, or around yourself if you are walking somewhere you don't feel safe in.

[mol]

I have cast a circle before that was just about 1 inch around my body. Tight and effective.

Be resourceful! ;)

[Shatav]

I actually cast a sphere, but if you want to call it a circle, that works for me. :)

But I feel it important for most of the magickal workings that I do. It's a sacred and safe place, and with some of the "higher" forms of magick, this is not just cool to have, but necessary, or you could open yourself up to negative influences.

[Twig]

I keep a circle with me everywhere I go. I can cast it anywhere,anytime and make it as small or as large as I want. I've cast it in places as small as a closet and as large as an autotorium. In fact once,I cast my circle around the entire state of Oregon.

For you see,my circle is the Earth. Protected by the Mother herself and the One. Brothers and Sisters,this is also your circle. and all it takes to cast it is to visualise it in your mind and a small prayer.

Peace,
Twig

[Trevi]

That sounds like a real good idea! I have wanted to use a circle for years, but could never "fit" it into my surroundings. I think you have a good idea.... imagine a circle, the circle of Mother Earth. I think I will use that when we go to see that house we want so badly! Maybe, if I cast a circle around it thats protected by Mother Earth Herself, no one else will buy it!!!

THANKS!

[Shatav]

Originally posted by Twig
I keep a circle with me everywhere I go.

Actually, I used to do this myself. In fact, I had a funny story of one day when I was shopping with my mother in an antique store and I had it up and literally bumped circles with someone else who had one up. We exchanged brief glances, chuckled, shook hands and then moved about our own rumaging through the goodies. Quite an eye opener for me at the time, as I thought I was the only one who did it.

[mol]

Originally posted by Shatav


Actually, I used to do this myself. In fact, I had a funny story of one day when I was shopping with my mother in an antique store and I had it up and literally bumped circles with someone else who had one up. We exchanged brief glances, chuckled, shook hands and then moved about our own rumaging through the goodies. Quite an eye opener for me at the time, as I thought I was the only one who did it.

Shatav! Good to see you have returned...I figured you had been busy...

I do use a circle when I work...but I generally dont keep it up at all times as I would find that a drain. Or do you construct this circle and leave it suspened in its own energy?

[eaglewolf]

You all have lost me... my definition of casting a circle and the protective "circles/spheres" you are all refering to are not interchangable... I think I am best left out of this conversation, LOL!

~ew

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by eaglewolf
You all have lost me... my definition of casting a circle and the protective "circles/spheres" you are all refering to are not interchangable... I think I am best left out of this conversation, LOL! ~ew

Am pretty much the same, ew. The circles we do occasionally use aren't protective of anything ~ they're symbolic of the Womb of the Mother; nothing more, nothing less. ;)

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Mairwen
~ they're symbolic of the Womb of the Mother; nothing more, nothing less. ;)

We cast circles, very spefically I might add, for cleansing/purification purposes when, and only when, we are inviting a deity to join us within the circle (for whatever reason).

We think it is somewhat disrespectful to invite them to a dirty house, so to speak. I know others who cast circles when doing all magickal workings, but we do not think this is necessary. If I had to cast a circle everytime I did something spiritual I would spend all of my time casting circles :).

Visualizing a protective bubble, if you will, encompasses an entirely different aspect of magick (for me anyway)...

Needless to say, I was one of the two who voted, "What's a circle?" LOL!

~ew

[Amethyst Rose]

Originally posted by eaglewolf

We cast circles, very spefically I might add, for cleansing/purification purposes when, and only when, we are inviting a deity to join us within the circle (for whatever reason).

Visualizing a protective bubble, if you will, encompasses an entirely different aspect of magick (for me anyway)...


Exactly!! I was beginning to think that I was the only one who uses circles only in rituals where diety will be present.
I don't really understand why people would keep a "circle" (as I understand it to be) around them at all times.... there are times where I have put up a sort of shield, but that's because I'm extremely empathic, and when I'm in groups of people my emotions go nuts, if I don't shield myself.....
Anyway..... I answered "sometimes" because there are times when I'll do some magick within a ritual setting.

[Lynnaea]

I think some of us that are saying we keep a protective circle up all the time are speaking of a "shield", it is a matter of definition. We all have shields even if we don't know we have, when we go into strange areas, or are in a crowd of people everyone puts up a shield. Just look at the faces passing by on a busy city sidewalk and you will see, the people are oblivious to everyone else, they are shielded. In magic we practice making our shields stronger, to protect ourselves from negative energies and any other harm. Around our friends and loved ones we take our shields down, we let our true selves show.

In my tradition, after we cast the circle for ritual, we open our auras (take down our shields). Opening the aura is done only where there is perfect love and perfect trust. After the ritual is done, but before the circle is opened we again close our auras.

Without getting too technical, the shield and the ritual circle are different, but they are also similar. They are both for protection, and they both contain the sacred (aren't you sacred?). Usually in a ritual circle we call the elements, Deity and perform magic. But we can perform magic with just our personal shield, so the two definitions shade together.

[BrightStar]

Hi all!
Well,I use a circle to contain the energy I raise during a ritual.It's really not about protection as much,for me anyway.It's so the energy doesn't escape before I'm ready to release it.
Peace and Love
Rain Brightstar

[eaglewolf]

Originally posted by Lynnaea
I think some of us that are saying we keep a protective circle up all the time are speaking of a "shield", it is a matter of definition.

...and you put it so eloquently...

Yeah, what she said, LOL!

I was trying to have fun with everyone... in my own sick little way.

I agree with the "we are sacred" statement, but I am used to my "dirty house," and can work in it (around it) just fine.

:D

~ew

[mol]

Now I understand...sorry sometimes I can be slow and I was taking my topic too literally! I didnt mean a protective 'bubble' as ew suggested. But the Circle some of use in Magickal works...(some more than others!)

[Shatav]

Yeah, I was talking about both, really...but yes, for me, there's a really thin line between a circle and a shield, and most of that's just size. Even when I use a shield (which is what I was referring to when I was talking about the bump story), I still summon elementals and deity in order to protect me, but it's smaller and mobile, and their presence is to help forge it, and then they usually take off. :)

[Phrater]

I use circles whenever the ritual is formal and traditional. But as we all know they are not necessary for all ritual and magick. Something as simple as making dinner is ritual magick, the application of the proper force (culinary knowledge) upon the proper medium( food) to the proper degree(medium rare). to produce the desired result( something edibly yummy). But I certainly do not cast circles or recite anything of power to make a pot roast.

[Jazzmine]

Being quite new at this, I cast circles for Esbats on the Full and New Moon and for Sabbats. While meditating I do not. I was wondering though, do you need to cast a circle for spells? I have a spell-a-day calendar and very few of them say anything about casting circles.

[Phrater]

To tell you the truth there is no clear cut time to cast a circle or not. I've always done it if I felt I needed to. Sometimes when I read my runes, I'll cast a circle, most of the time I will not. Do what you feel, you can never go wrong if you act in accordance with your own true will. Those who do act with the flow of the universe behind them.

[Amora]

I have to admit sometimes I am so lazy I just want to say what I'm there to say and do what I'm there to do. Taking the time to do circle and verbally acknowledge the elementals is too much for me. I realize this is not the greatest thing to do. It is nice to know there are other pagans who do not do circles either. Every book I've read swears by circles first.

[Witchbourne]

I did use a circle more in the beginning....now i use a hexmark (Pentagram) much more...but if i should do something biger i would use a circle...and honestly nowerdays i mostly do things from only my mind....

Blessed be*

[Tigerwallah]

I used to use the circle all the time. Then one day, I realized that getting in touch with my Goddess while in a higher consciosness works better and more swiftly than any spell I've ever traditionally cast. She's often answered my prayers swiftly and with much wisdom. I do still use the circle for special circumstances - mostly for the show when casting for others.

[richardcranium]

I only use a circle on sabbats.

[Rainbow Chaser]

I will certainly cast a circle whenever I do a ritual. Which is not often because I am definitely a sort of kitchen witch. High magick is not for me, I'm sure I would be swell at it, but I leave it alone.

As for the other talk about shields etc. I have found that having a too strong shield all of time hems me in, way too much.
I may need that every now and then (for specific situations mostly) but not all the time. I realized that by shielding other stuff off, it means walling myself in as well. Now I just let energy flow and don't bother too much with the negative stuff. If I'm feeling okay, it will just move right through me. So I don't need to be totally shielded all the time. That was quite an eye-opener for me.

[Ari]

Shatav's early post about bumping shields with someone in a store reminded me of an odd ritual experience I had about a year ago...we'd cast a fairly large circle (on a beach with no clear cut boundary restraints) and someone walked through the edge. I could almost physically hear the thing 'pop' like a balloon, and I felt like I'd been punched in my heart chakra.

[Silverwitch]

I very nearly always use a circle when peforming magick as for me, it enhances the sacredness of the act I am about to perform, and it creates a space out of this world where I am protected and safe, particularly when calling up deities.

However, this is for a full ritual, (which I love),when I pull out all the stops, and go all formal!!

For me this is also more about an outward "visible" symbol, whereas the real "work" goes on in my Inner Temple where I usually cast a sphere before entering.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by Silverwitch
and it creates a space out of this world where I am protected and safe, particularly when calling up deities.

Okay. Explain this to me, because this is yet another thing my Gwyddon brain can't seem to grasp when "out with" other Paths. Why would you need protections when "calling" deities?

[Phrater]

The circle of protection used by the many flavors of pagan has always seemed to me to be a missed translation from the original usage of the circle. The history that I have been given says that circles were used to define our sacred spot, our temporary temple and to contain the energies produced from a work performed. After having done my works within a well constructed circle and at another time on a crowded Subway platform... I have found little difference. One thing that I do to make up for a circle would be the use of Hematite to ground any such energies. If anyone would care to add to or give counter evidence to any of these bits... please share, as I feel my information to be lacking completion.

[Silverwitch]

Originally posted by Mairwen


Okay. Explain this to me, because this is yet another thing my Gwyddon brain can't seem to grasp when "out with" other Paths. Why would you need protections when "calling" deities?

This is much more a Mage thing. Depending on your point of view, you can either call up unpleasant "entities", by error or intent or you can be embodying negative emotions, particular very deep seated ones which you may not be aware of ie your "demons". I tend to veer to the latter school of thought, but either way it makes sense when using this form of Magick to create a circle/sphere of protection as not all deities are nice, so protection is important.

Hope this helps Mairwen.

[Mairwen]

Actually, it does but it doesn't. Those are the same answers (and I loves you guys!) people have been giving me for years, and I just can't ... get my mind ... around them, or something ... Maybe someday I'll figure it out ... Maybe ... 8)

[Kaylara]

:)

[Silverwitch]

Originally posted by Mairwen
Actually, it does but it doesn't. Those are the same answers (and I loves you guys!) people have been giving me for years, and I just can't ... get my mind ... around them, or something ... Maybe someday I'll figure it out ... Maybe ... 8)

I think that's probably because you have found your Path, and are quite happy with it. Just as I have found my Path and am quite happy with that "demons" and all!

It's just a different form of Magick being used. Just like the Sun has many rays, so does magic. Yet, they all connect with the Source. Does that help any??

[Lady Tana]

Only when I feel like it


so most of the time... not really

[KyGreenWitch]

When performing ritual and/or majik, I have always cast a circle. I was curious, though, if in meditation would mudras be just as effective. When I meditate, I actually do both. Kind of a habit I have. The energy is wonderful!

I don't mean to change the subject, but I feel when I surround my self with the movements of a mudra, for me, it's like a skin-tight wrap of a circle - - kinda sorta, maybe???

Just a thought.

Merry Part -

[Mairwen]

*confuzzled* How did this thread get today's date on it and get moved back to the top of the list?? ??????

[vocis noctis]

There are many subjects on the internet about how to cast a circle. I don't know which ones to trust. So no, I'm not casting a circle, I want to be informed very good before I do that. Also I am a bit scared I could do something wrong. Don't forget I'm a newbie to these things :)

[SahuaDjet]

MM,
Being the simple kitchen, hedgey type I have never felt the need to cast a circle. I simpley have my own way I guess of doing things like for Sabbats I bake cookies. Sometimes before I go to sleep I use a shield around the room for protection.

BB,
Sahu Djet

[silvermoon]

Hi Guys,

Merry Meet.

I use a circle when doing a ritual but it is a TIGHT SQUEEZE (my altar is in my bedroom).

But being relatively new to witchcraft, at times I feel a little unsure of what I am doing. And as result I have not done many rituals. BUT I do believe in what I am doing.

Blessed Be

silvermoon

PS I hope this contributes to your discussion.

[Silverwitch]

Originally posted by silvermoon
Hi Guys,

Merry Meet.

I use a circle when doing a ritual but it is a TIGHT SQUEEZE (my altar is in my bedroom).

But being relatively new to witchcraft, at times I feel a little unsure of what I am doing. And as result I have not done many rituals. BUT I do believe in what I am doing.

Blessed Be

silvermoon

PS I hope this contributes to your discussion.

Hi Silvermoon, good to have you in on the discussion. My altar is also in my bedroom, so I know some of the problems! When I cast a circle, I don't make a physical one, just the visualised one. I think as long as this is in place, it helps to make you feel more comfortable. After all, it is the internal visualisation that is the important bit. All the material paraphanalia, is just to aid concentration and focu, helping to keep the mind on the job in hand. Even though you feel unsure about what your doing, if it comes from the heart it'll be OK. Like anything else, 'practise makes perfect', and you'll gain confidence as you go along. You'll also find lots on this site to help you. Bright Blessings :bigredgri

[SeekerSandy]

For serious magick involving, OBE, protection or even binding, we need the protection and power-raising assistance of a circle. There are times that we simply need to settle our inner beings and for those we can light a few candles and still invoke the assistance of the Goddess and Horned One.
It's a matter of choice and what works, I guess.8O

[DragonTamer]

I use a little bubble when i'm meditating or casting an impromptu spell or saying a prayer, and it's just enough to help me focus-- it keeps my thoughts from flying around the room at every sound and movement. When i'm actually performing rituals, that's when i bring out the salt and water, incence and athame, and cast an official circle with a well-defined border.

[Shy Hawk]

I suppose at times I cast a "circle" when meditating, as a form of concentration. And, of course with forms of magick and whatnot.....however...
I find it draining and don't do it daily. I don't really see a point unless trying to keep out negative energies. Generally, I do everything without one.
By the way, there's no right way to cast a circle. It's an individual thing. There's by the book step by step ways, and walk around in a circle informal ways.
You just tailor it to what you need. Like all other aspects of Wicca.
Shy Hawk :D

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by SeekerSandy
For serious magick involving, OBE, protection or even binding, we need the protection and power-raising assistance of a circle. :confused:

Again I ask ~ protection from what? And how does a circle assist in power raising?

I mean, do what works for you, but this puzzles the crap out of me! :eek:

[Emy]

I only cast a circle when the working is "more advanced" like when I need the privacy, or when I need the protection... or of course when I do a ritual...

But if I'm just casting a small spell (e.g to find something I've lost...), or making a little brew to help cure my cold then I don't "need" a circle...

And well, when I talk of need of protection and using a circle, I mean I need protection from energies that might interupt, I need a circle to keep the area clean so to speak.... A circle is safe... and if you are doing OBE it is really a must, at least for me it is... I wouldn't feel completly safe without it.

However sometimes I don't cast a full circle, I just use some candles and gems, and sort of create a protective sphere.

[SeekerSandy]

Originally posted by Mairwen
:confused:

Again I ask ~ protection from what? And how does a circle assist in power raising?

I mean, do what works for you, but this puzzles the crap out of me! :eek:

There's protection and there's protection. There are those who can (and sometimes will) screw around with those who are raising magick, especially those who practice 'left-handed' stuff. Then there are spirits with an evil sense of humor. Maybe you have never experienced such things but I believe them to be.
A more formal circle seems to keep them away.
Then, there are the little inconviniences such as the phone ringing, knocks on the door, etc. I have found that if we need complete and uninterrupted privacy, a more formal circle keeps such things from happening. Again, perhaps you don't believe in such things but I (and we) have found it to be so, based on experience.
As far as raising power goes. I can do some without the formality of a circle, but don't have the personal strength to do anything major without invoking the ancient powers, visualizing the circle and inviting my (our) dieties to join us. I can then raise considerably more, especially healing power or protective spells. the abilities grows exponentially when there are several of us involved. Don't ask me to explain why, it's an art, not a science.
Go figure.....:elf:

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by SeekerSandy
Then there are spirits with an evil sense of humor. Maybe you have never experienced such things but I believe them to be.
A more formal circle seems to keep them away.

However, I come from a tradition which teaches that we're all made up of the same stuff ~ we're part of the Boundless Being, so that nothing or no one is more or less anything or any one else. Make sense? To some people, it doesn't, but it is what works for us, which is why we don't always cast circles. I've been using them a lot lately, but we have a lot of new Seekers, and the practice for them is crucial. Usually, circle casting is reserved for Initiations or Full Moons (we have a special Full Moon Circle, but even then, sometimes that isn't used; depends on what we need). As Gwyddons, our circles aren't circles of power or circles of protection. Our circles are our Mother's Womb, the Cauldron of Birth and Rebirth. (which is why the whole "keep nasties away" bit is so confounding to me)

Then, there are the little inconviniences such as the phone ringing, knocks on the door, etc.

I'm a practicing Pagan of almost 13 years and have never been disturbed by a telephone or whatever. 8O

don't have the personal strength to do anything major without invoking the ancient powers.

Why? Could you please explain why? The power is ultimately inside you ~ not inside some perceived sphere, circle, or other tool.

Don't ask me to explain why, it's an art, not a science.

But magics, energy work, etc, etc are works of science. :)

[bluecat]

Okay, about using a circle. It wasn't a big thing in my tradition, the only reason we would get in a circle would be to see each other and feel a personal bond in doing the work, if there were many people involved. But as far as "Casting a Circle" nope it was just the way we stood.

I also try and stay away from the "power" word, or the "P" word. I am one of those who believe that we do not have power, but are the way that power is brought to something, like an electric cord, or say a canal. The reason I say this is because there is power in nature, but we want to create a channel for it and both an electric cord and a canal are channels created and used used for directing their respective powers.

Instead of "Power" I have been taught that we have "Talents." Some have different talents than others and we are all BORN with these talents. Children have a natural ability to tap the power of the universe and usually,and sadly I will add, lose it very soon. This ability can be rekindled, but I often wonder if we get it all back, or even if we should get it all back. That is one awesome thing that could really be too much for some folks to handle.

The "Power" of a circle is Unity, IMHO. You don't have to cast it, just realize that you are not alone in the Universe and your deities are part of what you are. And for us who do not have deities we are part of the Universe and all who came before us and will come after us.

This is not The GOSPEL of Blue folks, just how I see things. I have always found that the more complicated a thing becomes the more likely it is to fail when it comes in contact with people. People are not simpletons or klutzy, but I think we should take care of the "need" word and not let things become a crutch. For me needs are in the material world, my body NEEDS nourishment, the mind needs companionship and acceptance (this is one of those "scientific finding thangs, ya know ;) ), some of us, like me need medication, well our body does, because for one reason or another we have become high maintenance. What I am saying is needs are physical.

I am not saying that you are weak for believing the way you do, just that I don't believe the same way. Wouldn't life really be boring and sucky if we were all the same??? :p

Blue :cool:

[SeekerSandy]

Well met: Mairwen and Bluecat. Each raises Power (or whatever) in uniquely individual ways. You don't consider the womb to be a place of safety, protection and nourishment?
As for not being able to raise power for various spells without the circle, perhaps I can but I think the power of the circle, attended by the ancient powers and the Blessed Couple keeps me from harming myself or others. A talent CAN be used incorrectly or inappropriately, after all. Dirty Harry said, "you gots to know your limitations." I know mine; the weakness of the flesh and occassional lack of control over ego. I'd rather take no chances.
But I enjoy your take on this and appreciate your views.
We are all different and I cherish those differences. What a great way to learn!:sunny:
Bright Blessings.

[Sunday's Child]

What is the difference between casting a protective circle and a glamour?

[Mairwen]

Well, one is a circle, while the other is a magical act of illusion.

[Sunday's Child]

I still don't understand, are they both used for protection?

[Shy Hawk]

No, just a circle is used for protection...in the sense you're talking about I think.
A glamour is something you can do in a circle.
Shy Hawk

[Sunday's Child]

can anyone explain to be what a glamour is? I'm confused.. ( as usual)

[Shy Hawk]

I am familiar with glamoury..however I don't know how that's different from a glamour, if it is.
Any light shed on this would help me too. Thanks.
Shy Hawk

[Phrater]

Here it is. Glamour is when someone changes their visage. ie hair color, eye color, skin tone, etc I personally have never seen this work without surgery...

A Circle of protection, or as some call it a cone of power, is
a force drawn about you during works of importance.

So far as I can see they have nothing in common.

[Sunday's Child]

okay, I was under the impression that a glamour was a colored circle of light, you cast about yourself for protection or attraction, which ever the case may be.. I am wrong, I guess, misinformed. Everybody agree with this?

[Shy Hawk]

Aye, I am agreed that you were misinformed...but it's good to ask questions.
By the way, I've seen glamours work.
My friends all change their eye colors on a regular basis. They've only acheived purples, greens, blues, and reds....but I have not done that sort of magick...cause I didn't really have a reason to. lol
Shy Hawk

[Mairwen]

I've affected glamours before, but not on purpose ~ they've come upon me when I've been feeling particularly "the Morríganish" or when I've channeled certian goddesses.

[Sunday's Child]

Thanks to all those who are helping me, I think I came to the right place. Mairwen, did your glamours work? What changes came over you? How do you know you had a glamour if you were channeling? Do you remember everything from channeling? sorry, got off subject.. You know you all will probably receive alot more dunb questions from me.Finally, I have someone to talk to about all these things.. (poor sheltered child).

[Sunday's Child]

Ta da, I found it! In one of my simple spell books, by Barrie Dolnick, she says "a glamour is an energy form you cast over yourself that acts as a protective force or an attractive one, depending on your needs." Is she misinformed or am I misunderstanding her statement?.

[Shy Hawk]

(Looks at your book puzzled)...well...I don't know....
Shy Hawk

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by Sunday's Child
Thanks to all those who are helping me, I think I came to the right place. Mairwen, did your glamours work? What changes came over you? How do you know you had a glamour if you were channeling? Do you remember everything from channeling? sorry, got off subject.. You know you all will probably receive alot more dunb questions from me.Finally, I have someone to talk to about all these things.. (poor sheltered child).

Like I said, they weren't glamours I was doing on purpose ~ they came of their own accord, so there's no saying "yes they worked" or "no they didn't work"; they just occured. I have been told by people who have seen and heard these changes in, to, and around me. When you're channeling properly (such as for Oracular purposes), you won't remember anything except that "you" were in a "different" space/place.

[Lavender]

From what I've gathered...a glamour is like an illusion...not real but sort of like putting on a mask to change your physical appearance. Like when confronted in certain situations you may make yourself appear bigger & tougher than you really are. You're projecting an image.

[Mairwen]

Thank you, wildchild!:p

[Armitage]

I don't use them much because, well, I don't do ritual much. I much prefer simple mental connections, using my mind rather than objects. I've always been like that, and it's harder than using physical things as a stepping-stone, but then again I could never take the easy way of anything.
Though I do collect tools partly because of the energies they represent, and partly because I like accumulating neat things. ^_^

[Myst]

I cast a sphere for most spells. When we do a ritual in group we usually cast a circle too, but it's pretty simple and ends up getting walked through quite regularly, being as there's invariably children or pets running around within and without the circle.

Some don't because they don't want to take the time or don't feel they need to. I have a few friends who skimp out on a lot of things because they don't think they have the time and I find it very disappointing - why are we here if not to learn and grow? They also refuse to ever get out the tools and do a planned ritual (I think for a pair of them even their handfasting was made up as they went!!) Then they wonder why there's a lot of stuttering and "ummm"'s, or why .Oh well.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by WillowRaven
Some don't because they don't want to take the time or don't feel they need to.

But this isn't the only reason.

[Myst]

:D

I create an armour of spikes or circle of barbed wire when I feel vulnerable. Also I cover myself in mirrors to appear invisible sometimes. I suppose you might call those glamouries :)

[Mairwen]

It is possible, yes.

[Myst]

Apparently there's some info on glamouries in the book I just bought - Witchcraft Theory & Practice by Ly de Angeles (I think I spelled that right). Oo fun! There's also some info about it in one of Silver RavenWolf's books (I can't remember which one tho hehe) as is creating astral lifeforms...

[Sunday's Child]

Cool!

[Dria El]

Originally posted by Phrater
I use circles whenever the ritual is formal and traditional. But as we all know they are not necessary for all ritual and magick. Something as simple as making dinner is ritual magick, the application of the proper force (culinary knowledge) upon the proper medium( food) to the proper degree(medium rare). to produce the desired result( something edibly yummy). But I certainly do not cast circles or recite anything of power to make a pot roast.

LOL!!! Too much! For some reason that struck me as hillarious! hehe Sorry, I'll go back to my corner now.

:)

;)

:p

:eek:

:rolleyes:

:D

8O

[Mairwen]

Out of all the posts in this thread, I think the one about potroast is my favorite. Very valid point, too. :elf:

[Rćvyn Cigány]

As a solitary, I had one heck of a hard time finding the space and the guts (to be perfectly frank) to cast my own circle. Working with others though gives me a strength and courage I didn't know I had. The casting of the circle comes so naturally to me now :) (Thanks to she who knows of which I speak :D:D:D)

BB

Rae )0(

[quixote]

Originally posted by Amethyst Rose


Exactly!! I was beginning to think that I was the only one who uses circles only in rituals where diety will be present.
I don't really understand why people would keep a "circle" (as I understand it to be) around them at all times.... there are times where I have put up a sort of shield, but that's because I'm extremely empathic, and when I'm in groups of people my emotions go nuts, if I don't shield myself.....
Anyway..... I answered "sometimes" because there are times when I'll do some magick within a ritual setting.
MM,
this is a bit off topic, but I've been wondering for a while how to shield yourself in groups. When I go down to the city, I pick up all kinds of energy and end up with my body speeding with a headache. this is after being in the city for a couple of hours. I also can't handle crowds. Any advice would be appreciated.
Blessed Be,Quixote

[Myst]

See "Using a Magickal Shield" in this forum, Quixote :) (I just started a new thread on it)

[Happydog]

OK, here's something interesting, I hope. I had an old van, and I cast a spell on it at the time, to avoid getting in car wrecks. (I have a fear of car wrecks.) I just thought of it as a big protective egg surrounding the van, a little bigger than the van. I didn't use all my own energy but I tried to ask for Goddess energy to create it and sustain it, though I did throw my intent into it.

Well, one day we were driving along through an intersection, and this Mustang and a Camaro moved into the intersection at the wrong time, without looking. By all rights we should have been in the middle of that wreck, with one car punching in either side of our van, but at the moment that the accident should have happened, there was a sort of "squip!" feeling, like the car was a watermelon seed slipping through someone's grasp. We found ourselves on the other side of the wreck, untouched, while those other two poor folks had hit each other. I have no idea how it happened but I had a definite sensation of being moved -fast- through that situation, far faster than that old van could go even if I had floored it. Like a watermelon seed, as I said, squishing through someone's fingers!

I was very thankful to the Goddess for that one and we kept the protective egg up around the van until it finally broke down and quit running, after which the "egg" dissipated on its own.

Go figure! But I did thank the Goddess for her help on that one!

[Annyka]

I love using a circle and do all the time. I have learned to chant out my calling for a circle in the quickest time possible under my breath and use this as an immediate shield when I feel threatened by anything.

I also cast a circle before my exams at uni - it helps me concetrate.

:)

:sunny:

[ladyrowan]

Originally posted by Twig
I keep a circle with me everywhere I go. I can cast it anywhere,anytime and make it as small or as large as I want. I've cast it in places as small as a closet and as large as an autotorium. Peace,
Twig


Ummmmm, can i ask what you were doing in the closet? 8O

BB

[Dria El]

hehe I'm wondering the same thing. ;)

[Mairwen]

Pagans and closets. Sheesh!:rolleyes:

[story]

I usually use circles when attempting to do a ritual. But I don't really use them as a source of protection. See, the room where my alter is also my living room, my dining room, my guest room, etc. Theres a fair amount of traffic though it, and usually a lot of clutter too. Casting a circle is part of the psychological process i go through to remove myself from the flow of my everyday life. Mind you, its only a part of it. I clean . I move the alter to the cener of the room. I sweep (counterclockwise). Then I cast the circle.
The act, or series of acts, involved in casting a circle also serve as a "warm up" before the ritual itself, like stretching before you begin exersizing. It gets me ready for what I'm about to try to do.

[Xois]

since I choose to have my magical/ spiritual life not sepearated from my mundane life, no circle needed...

The great mother created all, why would I need to purify space! :)

CHeers
Xois

[Xois]

cool watermelon seed story!

[Tarot Collector]

Originally posted by Mairwen
:confused:

Again I ask ~ protection from what? And how does a circle assist in power raising?

I mean, do what works for you, but this puzzles the crap out of me! :eek:


I don't know if this is helpful, but one way of looking at it (and not the only way, mind you) is in power raising using the cast circle as the base of what is called a cone of power ... basically a vortex building up to a focus-point of power -- somewhat like an upside down tornado. I fully know this not the only way, or use, or even purpose of casting a circle, but its an alternative way to visuallize it.

I use a circle whenever I working something with a specific INTENT.

Although I've used them many other ways too. Circling my house with a smudge, on occasion, for example. Basically to focus on the "WILL" I am attaching to my intent --a protective barrier sometimes-- or a blessing upon all that rests within the circle.

I heartily admit to not often being systematic in ceremonious adherence. I am aware, however, that High Magick - as has been referenced in this thread - has a strict set of ritual that helps to prepare and protect the conjuror of some very powerful forces, and any Master understands that any manipulation of elemental forces can attract a host of curious and destructive entities....

Well, maybe I'm running off topic a bit....

-eternally learning-
-Jesse-

/\ vortex above
O
\/ vortex below

[bloodstone20]

if you do cast a circle, how do you do it?
I get out all my stuff, then cast a circle by visualising a golden ring about 6feet in diamater at my waist height, then the things from every day life drippiing away to a purple, starry background, for me, the astral. Then I move my hands up, then down, and lastly intone an incantation, i guess it would be called, to seal it, and cleanse it.

[Mairwen]

Thanks for the reply Jesse!! Our way is so different from "mainstream" that sometimes I get horribly lost. :D (which is why I ask stupid questions! LOL!8O)

[bloodstone20]

the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked.

[Dria El]

Riiiiiight.

My guess is you've never worked retail?

:rolleyes:

[bloodstone20]

i've worked at a real job 3 days.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by bloodstone20
the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked.

Well, you have to remember that I'm not a Wiccan and have never studied nor practiced Wicca. A most of Wicca makes no sense to me. That's the biggest reason I get lost in these discussions, and why I ask so many "first grade" questions ... even though I'm an Elder in my Tradition. Make sense?;)

[bloodstone20]

i understand. But, if you aren't wiccan, why do you expect us to hold you to standards as if you are?

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by bloodstone20
i understand. But, if you aren't wiccan, why do you expect us to hold you to standards as if you are?

Do what?

[mol]

Originally posted by bloodstone20
i understand. But, if you aren't wiccan, why do you expect us to hold you to standards as if you are?

Now Im lost.

[bloodstone20]

you want to be.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by mol
Now Im lost.

Me, too, Mol. :-/

[bloodstone20]

i think i explained it to you in my pm before that. if not, just pm me.

[Mairwen]

Originally posted by bloodstone20
i understand. But, if you aren't wiccan, why do you expect us to hold you to standards as if you are?

I hate to do this publicly and totally offtopic, but I'm going to, anyway.

Bloodstone, you trying to say that just because I'm not of the Wiccan Craft that I'm not worthy of respect? If that's the case, that's one of the biggest loads of bull that I've ever heard. I've gotten that a lot in my time as a Gwyddon, but hadn't gotten it in a long time. If that's what you're saying, then I think you need to go back and take a hard look and a hard think at that so-called Wiccan Rede you Wiccans are so fond of.

[bluecat]

Originally posted by bloodstone20
i understand. But, if you aren't wiccan, why do you expect us to hold you to standards as if you are?

hmmm ... Milk anyone?

What does not being Wiccan have to do with anything?

[bluecat]

Just an opinion/question here ... but where is this thread going?

Blue

[Dria El]

Originally posted by bluecat
Just an opinion/question here ... but where is this thread going?

Blue

Off to the Twilight Zone it seems...

[SeekerSandy]

After cleansing the circle by honoring the ancient powers and cardinal points with salt, incense, candle and water, I visualize a smoke-like effect rising from each of the points while invoking the ancient powers, Green, yellow, red and blue.
As I return to the north, the colors, which have been mixing it up, sudddenly flash through a variety of colors and brightness. Depending on the time, senses and psychic level, that final color and feeling of strength may be nearly anything.
I strive for a perfect white, which seems to raise the greatest power for the circle.

[Nyx]

I myself, do not use a circle, though I think they are a good idea. I have used them in the past, however, since I currently share a small room with a non-pagan roommmate, I no longer have the space, nor the ability to cast a circle. (at least not how I would normally prefer to do it, that is ^_-)

I think the use of a circle is a matter of personal preferance and no matter which way you go, you can still get the job done effectively.


~~Nyx~~

[Kyrnnid Tyhn]

i cast a circle only when i'm lead to do so. hard to explain. but i receive words and actions for rituals while in a meditative state sometime prior to the day i perform. most of the time that is. some rituals are spontaneous.
if i don't feel lead to cast, i don't. and the majority of the time, i don't. i'm studying and practicing a form of high magic and i've found that many who practice high magic do use a circle. but not always the case with me. i'm an odd ball i guess when it comes to my practice. i've never met anyone else who's techniques are very similar to mine.

[Woven Spirit]

created by the smoke of reisens and white sage on a charcoal disc. When there are several people willing to join the circle the bowl of earth scents is passed from one to another until all have let mother earth enter thier bodies or added to it to help with the ceremony.

But when alone my circle is my home for the wolves and other guiding spirits whom live there with me protect so that I may discover more to my soul destination.

Now I am really liking this place. These are the things that I wanted to share. Blessed be to all!:p

[Dria El]

Welcome to Mystic Wicks Woven Spirit!!! So glad you found us ok!

:)

[Myst]

I know I posted my thoughts on this somewhere... but recently I was thinking of this... and realized that my circle casting is usually something I do to "get myself ready" for magick - like donning a special robe or jewelry, taking the phone off the hook, or lighting a special incense... I do spells in circle and bigger rituals as well, but for instance I've been lighting a candle the past few days and no circle needed for that. I also found myself casting a circle Monday night just to sit in it and feel magickal (come to think of it, I remember I felt really odd that night and jittery)....

[Shy Hawk]

A little OT but if you want to talk about weird warning signs....my birds aroung 9AM on Tuesday were having heart attacks in their cage and threw all their food/water on the ground. First time ever, too.

[Myst]

I remember now that I cast a circle specifically because I felt so damn wierd and couldn't calm down...

Hm, some people say animals can predict these things. Scientists blame the fact that they often know about earthquakes etc. on the fact that they might sense vibrations sooner, but who can explain what happened to you? Hm.

Oops, we got a bit OT... maybe we should start a thread in Divination or something?

[Shy Hawk]

hmmm maybe

[Woven Spirit]

It is soooo good to be here! Blessed be!:)

[phoenixsong]

My circles are always really small, because I've at most two feet of space for magick.
By the way, how long did it take you to feel the boundaries of the circle? I think I could feel it almost immediately, but I'd been practising seeing auras, so that might have helped.

[Danustouch]

Mairwen, earlier in this thread you stated...

"However, I come from a tradition which teaches that we're all made up of the same stuff ~ we're part of the Boundless Being, so that nothing or no one is more or less anything or any one else. Make sense? To some people, it doesn't, but it is what works "

That's cool. But...if you were, for instance, doing a healing spell, and had to focus on healing energy, positive thought, etc. If an energy entered that were contrary to that purpose, would it not somewhat distract from the ritual? I too agree, that we are all light, and dark, at the same time. We all have the potential to be either/or in a given moment or situation. However, if you are doing a magickal working, which requires you to summon specifically the "Light" aspect of yourself or the Universe, a destructive, malicious, or mischeivious force entering your sacred space, could distract from the work of magick you were trying to perform, right? That is why I cast a circle, personally. So that any energies which would NOT benefit my magickal working, but which would inhibit it, distract from it, or sabotage it, will not be albe to do so. It's merely a method, to me, of helping my concentration, reinforcing the goal of the ritual, keeping IT focused, etc. :) Hope I explained this well enough :)

[Shadowulfe]

i choose somtimes....somtime i will cast a circle like doing rituals, magick etc...
but normally i just use my shields for defencive purposes

[Myst]

I cast a circle not to suggest that sacred space doesn't exist everywhere, but to work in a space cleansed of any negative or non-conducive energies and consecrated to my purpose.

[SeekerSandy]

Myst and Danus come closest to why I cast a circle. Also though, the casting helps to cleanse my current being of any negativity or concerns or thoughts which could distract me from the purpose at hand. I probably worry more about my own state of mind that the entry of some malevolent or parasitic power. The one performing magick is in the position of screwing things up the most.
As for those shields, Wulfie, we ain't got no stinking shields....

:rolleyes:

[Sunday's Child]

Could doing some sort of cleansing ritual have the same affect, Sandy?

[Haedis]

I typically only cast a circle when doing magick of great importance (binding, healing, during esbat and sabbat rituals). I usually dont for simple spells and about half the time when using sympathetic magick. I dont ever cast a physical circle (lack of space) but I visualize one made of blue or white flames.

[AmbivalentMirage]

I cast more of an oval. :rotfl: You see, my room is a decent size, but not conducive to circular shapes... So I try my best to cast a circle, but it's not exactly spherical. However, I do imagine a sphere-like area that somewhat penetrates the area that I traced.

However, I only cast circles for multi-level spells or rituals. For simple candle magick, prayers, affirmations, etc., I do not cast a circle, but I do invite angels and powers to come to my altar. :D

[VroomBroom]

I cast a circle to keep my area free from negitive energies. I cast personal 'bubbles' to protect myself.

[Rubi Waters]

I cast a circle when doing magick of super importance.....other times I feel comfortable enough to not cast a circle....all depends on what i'm doing.

[Loba]

Most of the time i make it with my mind. Visualize it.

Loba

[WitchJezebel]

Originally posted by Rubi Waters

I cast a circle when doing magick of super importance.....other times I feel comfortable enough to not cast a circle....all depends on what i'm doing.

Ditto, especially if I'm in my own home - I keep it 'sealed up tight'.

[ShadowSwift]

I've always gone on the theory that if some astral baddie wants to whoop me, and its that much tougher than me, they're gonna whoop me circle or no circle. ;)

In 13 years of practicing, I've only worked with a circle once. It was when my husband and I were married; our priest and priestess come from a different pagan-y background than myself and were more comfortable with one.

It's rare for me to do any sort of formal ritual or other working anyways. ;)

[Uriel17]

I only read 1 and nine. Sorry.

Anyway, I always do either the LBRP or some form of Wiccan circle casting when doing a working. Even if its only psychological, it works powerfully for me.

Tim.

[Sylvan]

If I'm doing a ritual, I'll actually cast a circle. If I'm just working on something, a charm bag type thing or whathaveyou, I'll just envision a bubble forming around me quicklike. Takes no time whatsoever. :D

[indigo rain]

i don't see a circle as being necessary for protection. i think when i'm in the presence of Sekhmet all the big nasties are probably quaking in their boots anyway. :) so what more protection do i need? i do use one when i feel the need or urge, though. i see it as a really good "warmup." it gets you working with energy, symbolism, and visualization. it opens you up, makes you ready for the main body of ritual. and it often includes an invite to beneficial energies. so it's a good thing to do. i also see it as a sort of construction of the temple. it tells you, your subconsious, and your god/dess that this is a sacred place and what will happen within will be sacred as well. which, again, helps you get your mindset ready for the main body of ritual. so while it's certainly beneficial, it's not necessary, to me. everyone's a little different though, that's what makes the human race so fascinating.

[SeekerSandy]

To circle or not, whatever works to make your magick works is what matters. I'm sure that some of this really ticks off the "expert" Witches...... :lol:

[zakzekezedd]

Most of the time I will cast a circle for ritual or spellwork. Of course, since the minute I set up my altar, the cats move in to "help" it would be most accurate to say I cast a "blob" because I'm trying to avoid stepping on someone. Occasionally if it's something small like a charm bag or mixing some oils for a special purpose I don't cast a circle.

[serenarian]

It really depends on the working. For healing spells I usually do, and I do for Sabbats. Occasionally I will do one for other things too. It really depends on the day, and whether I want to contain or let go of the energies, and the circumstances of the working.

[Blossey]

Ok, i am only a beginer and havn't cast many spells, but once i cast a long distance spell on my sister to help her through a difficult personal time she was going through, i had amazing success with it and she is perfectly happy now and i'm so pleased. But............ I didnt cast a circle before casting the spell and afterwards i had serious trouble with negative spirits in my home, so much so that i felt safer outside at night then i did inside. It was awful, and not only that, i had major relationship issues and i went into deep depression and that was bad too. So yeah, i reckon now, i will be casting circles!!.
There is always some little thing i seem to forget!!

[Prudence Rose]

I don't really cast a circle, however I ask God (I am a Gnostic Christian who practices Wicca also) every night to keep me surrounded by Heaven's bright white protective light. It has been rather effective for me.

[Aidron]

My general rule of thumb is:

I cast a circle any time I am doing something fairly elaborate, which almost always occurs at my altar since I have an aversion to working outside, being treated like an insect buffet, and infernal neighbors screaming at the top of their lungs.

Any other time, such as holding a light green, or summoning a small breeze, locating a lost object, or using empathy, no, I do not.

[TheeHeks]

I actually only cast circles in full rituals, but as I sometimes do Magickal Work in ritual, it is automatically in a circle......

[KyGreenWitch]

I have learned that doing spell work and whatnot in my house, I have to do at least a mantra of a sort resembling a circle . . . something of protection. I, too had a couple of instances where I didn't cast a circle or do mantras, etc. and I had some wandering spirits about the house. Particularly in my youngest son's room! HE was quite disturbed and upset and awoke in the middle of the night terrified, crying and running into my and my husband's bedroom - like a bolt of lightning, I might add.

So, for me, I have to do something - at least while in the house - or things get a little crazy.

:yikess:

Blessed be,

[Blossey]

KyGreenWitch, the exact same thing happened to my 3 1/2yr old son. He doesn't know about spirits ect but he insisted there was a white one and a black one, and i had no idea what he was on about, and a few yucky things were happening around my home and a general feeling of not safe was heavy in the air. I decided to cleanse and put a pentagram above my partner and i's bed and above my small sons bed, and we no longer have any problems, so i know now what it was!!

[KyGreenWitch]

Blossey -

Yes, indeed. My little boy, Jesse, said there was a man in his room. Poor lil Jess was shaking and crying. It was a horrible time. It happened on several nights. I, too, cleansed the house. I used white sage and chants, and a clearing spell. (I don't remember now which spell I used to clear the house.) I set my best amethyst stone in his window sil and lit a white candle before bed time for a week. We haven't had any problems since. But that sure was an experience!

Blessed be . . .

[Lamoondove]

~~~~~~~~~mm~~~~~~~~~~~~~

At first I thought you had to have circle, So in beginning I used Table salt one time to cast circle..was in a dam wet basement but wanted to chant other than my imagination I only had table salt . Thought at that time that if not done at alter with circle and done in certain manner it would not please the Gods and Goddess mabe anger them ..

But one morning i was feeling really good had this spell on my mind and love to go out in the morning say hello to nature .. I thought to my self walking around out side about the spell trying parts of it , thought nothing would come of it cuz i wasnt at alter and didnt cast circle ,, but not long after that moring ,, Something happened made me think i wonder if the Gods and Goddess did hear me anyways and blessed me but over blessed me,,

I after that came to beleive that You can sit out under the moon and say your chants in full heart and be heard.

However i am still learning and growing~~~~~ And Thank Goddess for this place~~~~~~
I had no one to talk to on subjects of this nature and was a solitary person..
Mystic Wicks has actually helped me to grow and learn,, I dont feel sooo all alone now.

~~~~~I Love my New Family here ~~~~~~~~~~~
~~Merry Part~~~~

[Lamoondove]

~~~~~~PSSS~~~~~~~
Because of that I voted sometimes,,,LOL,,, ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Blessed Be ~~~~~~~~~MP~~~~

[Kalika]

When doing rituals and spells... yes... to block any possible negative energies... I also have this strange habit of casting before I go to bed... anyways... my answer was yes.

Blessings,

Kalika

[asamananara]

I have cast a circle before that was just about 1 inch around my body. Tight and effective. <br
Be resourceful! ;)
I think we've all done this instinctively as children...
How else would pulling a blanket over our heads at night
keep us safe from the boogie-man?

[Autumn Clair]

I started out casting before I went to bed being a seer it's hard to not get visions at that time. So, it helped me to get a break from outside forces and everyday build up. It gives you quite a good night sleep.
Then I came across a person I just didn't like and that's unusual I believe there is good in everyone no matter how small but this person I tried and tried to like but they just did things that really get to you like getting drunk every family gathering and telling the family off. Enough was enough. So if I have to be around that person I cast around me just to bounce things off and found it was like they weren't there. I even have a circle I use that I cast and let expire on it's own. A lot of people close their circles but I made this one just for this reason but it is draining to do it that way. My circles are pretty strong now but at first it took a while to get use too. I have a vivid imagination so I can do it in seconds now a very firm strong one, it will hold.........

[ragingredbear]

[COLOR=DarkOliveGreen][FONT=Book Antiqua]are'nt the cirles a nessitie?
Raging red bear

[Queenorivers]

yes.

[Flar's Freyja]

Sometimes.

I haven't in a long time because there's no time to invest in a formal ritual. I'll cast a reiki circle around myself for meditation, yoga or dance and I actually went as far to bring salt to work once to put a protective circle around my desk because the energy in the office was was so negative. I couldn't burn incense or sage and I don't think anyone noticed the salt on the floor:rolleyes:

[tears_of_ashes]

I sometimes do but only when I know that what I am doing is deffinetly safe and useable. But ideally I would say that it is safer to use a circle *nods*

[Astara Seague]

Alot depends on what I am trying to accomplish and who I am calling on to assist me so my answer is most of the time

[Meadhbh]

For the most part I don't. There is just some about them that bothers me, I get all headachey near them. As for casting them with something like sea salt thats a no go as well. Whenever my skin comes in contact with sea salt it for some reason starts burning and pelling away, so of course I try to avoid it.

[stella01904]

MM ~ IMHO, ritual magic requires a circle, minor magics do not. In otehr words, if I am going to do a banishing ritual, for instance, I will put up a circle or use the one that was already up for a Sabbat or Esbat, if appropriate. If I am simply blessing and/or charging an object or doing a little candle working, I don't need the circle.
BB, Stella

[Acid09]

The circle represents a sacred a space. A sacred space is a place of magick where a magician conducts his magick in security. Sacred space represents a microcosom of energy. It may be a spot the magician simply feels more calm, like a living room. It may be a unique spot in nature like where two oak trees grow and no other kind. It could be a place that has a dedicated alter or other tools the magician uses to focus energy. The magician utilizes this energy to bring about magickal change. This answer is fairly general but there is an unknowable number of ways a magician can utilize a sacred space.

The circle represents all this and more but it is only nesseccary when a tradition requires it. But if one is not bound to a single tradition there are other ways to declare a sacred space, suitable for conducting rituals, other than casting a circle.

[Faelon_Moon_Hawk]

sometimes. if i'm already doing something in circle (like celebrating a sabbat or something) then i'll do it in circle, or if i feel that this particular working is very important and would benefit from a circle then i'd do it. but most of the time my spells are very simple, and i really feel no need to use a circle.

[mtpathy]

i dont believe ive ever cast circle,although i guess i do see the point
in using it,its just not very important to me.
but i suppose casting circle is for the ones who practice ritual with
groups or alone.
i do not practice ritual, so i guess thats the reason i dont cast circle.

[omar]

Will magic work without a ciricle?

[mtpathy]

Will magic work without a ciricle?


i really hope so,ive been doing it this way for 15 years!

[omar]

i really hope so,ive been doing it this way for 15 years!
Only you would Know if your magic works!

[mtpathy]

Only you would Know if your magic works!

it's not that i dont know that it works,its that sometimes when it
shouldnt have worked it has.
magicks alot like cartoon logic,you only fail when you look down and
see that you've ran off of the cliff.

[arianrhods_daughter]

yes i do if need be :)

[Xirian]

I use a circle, because I feel protected within one and feel that I can concentrate on what I'm doing better with one than without. However, I have don't magic without one, but that is rare.

[Ladylepgirl]

I do if I'm doing a formal ritual. But for something small like a spell, no.

[OnyxStar]

It depends on how big the magic is and if I remember. Usually I start the ritual, then I feel a couple spirits gathering and I'm like, oops! Better cast a circle....

[alwaysfallingup]

I voted Yes because I do cast circle quite often...not necessarily for protection (although I do believe magickal energy can attract undeveloped thoughtforms, etc) or to contain the energy (although sometimes that is a factor). Mainly, I cast circle because it helps remind me that, although all creation is sacred, I am now in "ritual mode." It helps to clear my mind of all those nagging to-dos and must-not-forgets, and makes me feel ready to work. To me, casting a circle is like setting a table with china and candlelight...you can eat just fine without it, but the ambiance is important.

[coeur]

It depends on the entity I'm working with.

[Semjaza]

I don't cast a circle/sacred space 'cause I don't work in a wiccan/ceremonial context. I might designate a working area with a compasse, thought that's different from a circle, and it doesn't create sacred space 'cause all outdoor spaces are considered sacred. I would not create a circle in a protective sense, because if the spirits of the place/Land did not want me there, I would not inflict my presence upon them.

Cheers,

Semjaza
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[Knate]

Nope, never have. It isnt really part of the Bardic Magic I practice. Which is good, Cause otherwise I'd be casting circles off and on all day, everywhere I went.

[Silver Nightfire]

I visualise a circle of protection around me whenever I feel the need to...
But that's it really, when it comes to circle-casting.

[shuvanilu]

If I'm indoors, yes. If I'm outdoors, usually I don't.---shuvanilu

[laserhazel]

I wish I had read this thread before I posted a thread about my circles. But that's the way it goes sometimes.

I use circles, I have about three currently. One is in an old rock washer (http://www.goddess.owns1.com/artgallery/), where the sound of my voice is echoed very stoutly. It is good because it shakes my heart energy and assures me that it is working for the good.

Another circle I use, however, is around my house. The circle encloses the pig pen and hen house, but I include the animals in my magick, I see part of my magick as elevating their energies, sort of bringing more power to the blessings attributed to the animals which are there for nourishment. The higher their etheral energy the better, as it is part of the continuity which affects my energy.

Both of my Earth Plane circles are related to the higher circle of the universal consciousness. This circle, if you didn't know, is the great circle of The Universe.

Currently, the energy of the animals is still kind of working itself out of lows and into to highs. Their are lots of considerations in elevating the energy of animals.

[KylalaKitty]

I use a circle more or less now to set the mood (and to get me in the magical mood) to cast a spell or perform a ritual. There has only been a few times that I didnt create a circle.