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ladyrowan
July 14th, 2001, 10:19 PM
THE GOOD WIFE GUIDE
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This is an actual extract from a Home Economics textbook printed in 1961.
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QUOTE
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Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return from work. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when
they come home and the prospect of a good meal (especially his favourite dish) is part of the warm welcome needed.
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Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you will be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh looking. He has just been with a lot of work weary people. Be a little gay and a little more interesting
for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties
is to provide it.
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Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Gather up school books, toys, papers etc. and then run a dust cloth over the tables. During the colder months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by.
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Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction. Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum.
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Try to encourage the children to be quiet. Be happy to see him.
Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him. Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first, remember his topics of conversation are more important than yours. Make the evening his.
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Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner or other places of entertainment without you. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.
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Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquillity where your husband can renew himself in body and spirit. Don't greet him with complaints and problems. Don't complain if he's late home for dinner, or even stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through that day. Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a
comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him. Arrange the pillow and offer to take off his shoes.
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Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice. Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness.
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Once he has had a chance to have his evening meal clear the dishes and wash up promptly. If your husband should offer to help decline his offer as he may feel obliged to repeat this offer and after a long working day he does not need the extra work.
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Encourage your husband to pursue his hobbies and interests and be supportive without seeming to encroach. If you have any little hobbies yourself try not to bore him speaking of these, as women's interests are often rather trivial compared to men's.
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At the end of the evening tidy the home ready for the morning and again think ahead to his breakfast needs. Your husband's breakfast is vital if he is to face the outside world in a positive fashion.
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Once you have both retired to the bedroom prepare yourself for bed as promptly as possible. Whilst feminine hygiene is of the utmost importance your tired husband does not want to queue for the bathroom as he would have to do for his train.
But remember to look your best when going to bed. Try to achieve a look that is welcoming without being obvious. If you
need to apply face-cream or hair-rollers wait until he is asleep as this can be shocking to a man last thing at night.
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When it comes to the possibility of intimate relations with your husband it is important to remember your marriage vows and in particular your commitment to obey him. If he feels that he needs to sleep immediately then so be it. In all things be lead by
your husband's wishes, do not pressure him in any way to stimulate intimacy. Should your husband suggest congress then accede humbly all the while being mindful that a man's satisfaction is more important than a woman's.
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When he reaches his moment of fulfilment a small moan from yourself is encouraging to him and quite sufficient to indicate any enjoyment that you may have had.
Should your husband suggest any of the more unusual
practices be obedient and uncomplaining but register
any reluctance by remaining silent.
It is likely that your husband will then fall promptly asleep so adjust your clothing, freshen up and apply your night time face and hair care products. You may then set the alarm so that you can arise shortly before him in the morning.
This will enable you to have his morning cup of tea ready when he awakes.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kaylara
July 14th, 2001, 10:34 PM
OMG!!!!!!!

Excuse me, but F@*& that!

Kaylara

gunner
July 14th, 2001, 10:50 PM
what fantasyland did this party immigrate from?

(not you lady rowan, i mean the original author)

Lady Tana
July 14th, 2001, 10:58 PM
now wait wait wait....

some of these aren't such bad ideas......









hahahahhahhhaha ok i couldnt do that with a straight face...!!!

not in a million bazillion years is this gonna happen in this house
:D so ScreaminEagle if youre reading this... just get those silly ridiculous thoughts outta yer head buddy!!

Mairwen
July 15th, 2001, 12:01 AM
:rolleyes:

MammaStar
July 15th, 2001, 12:05 AM
Aw man, I am sooooo glad they don't teach that anymore. I could never EVER do any of that!!! I can't even see my Mom doing that for my Dad when they were married.

I can't believe people even thought like that. 8O At least I can chuckle about it now! 8O 8O

Mairwen
July 15th, 2001, 12:09 AM
Just to be a brat!


Originally posted by ladyrowan
During the colder months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by.

Kinda hard if you live in an apartment, yes? :D


remember his topics of conversation are more important than yours. Make the evening his.

8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O8O


offer to take off his shoes.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuwwwwwwwwwwwww


he is the master of the house

Not where I live! *cackle!* 8O


Encourage your husband to pursue his hobbies and interests and be supportive without seeming to encroach. If you have any little hobbies yourself try not to bore him speaking of these, as women's interests are often rather trivial compared to men's.

And we wonder why we strive to be so much different from our parents. :confused::D


If you need to apply face-cream or hair-rollers wait until he is asleep as this can be shocking to a man last thing at night.

:eek: I wouldn't sleep with a woman who had on face cream and wore rollers, either. How rude! :D


This will enable you to have his morning cup of tea ready when he awakes.

And this, my family, is why the Goddess created automatic coffeepots. ;)

Lavender
July 15th, 2001, 03:31 AM
Hah! That brings back memories! My MIL gave that to me as a gag shower gift. We had such a laugh over that. I'm going to save that for my future DIL. :D

Artemis84
July 15th, 2001, 09:46 AM
HA! HA! HA! HA! :D :D

silvrsnstr
July 15th, 2001, 10:06 AM
LMAO!!! This is a great laugh thanks for sharing. This manual was totally written by guys? Who would be such a.... Slave??? It reminds me of house at my grandparents, before they passed?
"Where's my coffee woman?"
"Make your own d*^$ coffee,"
"I gotta goto work, woman!"
"Haha. ha. You mean you have to watch me weed the garden!"
"Well, inteligence is unheard of in woman."
"Thats women, get it right, stipid Sh%#"
"Don't call me stupid, the bible says God made men in his image"
"Couldn't be, look at you. When I turned over i didn't recognise you. You're," she says matter of factly," getting uglier."

Just my 2 cents


Blessings,
Crimson StarRaven

ladyrowan
July 15th, 2001, 11:45 AM
Sounds like a great household silv, reminds me a bit of my grandparents, only my grandad wasn't so polite as to call her woman - he called her 'you old battleaxe' !!!!!! I won't print what she called him back though! haha

silvrsnstr
July 15th, 2001, 11:49 AM
I didn't know what half the things my grandma called my grandpa meant back then, and now I am like, O Great Gaia, where'd she learn that one?!

Blessings,
Crimson StarRaven

gunner
July 15th, 2001, 12:07 PM
"To the men - don't start getting ideas!!!!!"

actually it's a bit too late, we start getting ideas about the time we start to grow fuzz on our upper lip.

Yvonne Belisle
July 15th, 2001, 12:10 PM
The little site mouse is slinking off to hide before the women of the site stone her to death.......

clef0628
July 15th, 2001, 12:37 PM
Well, if a I ever get married my wife won't have to worry about that. I've been living on my own now for 7 years or so. Do, all my own cooking, cleaning etc. I kinda like keep things neat and clean and like cooking and long as I can spice things up :) As far as talking, I'm a much better listener then coming up with topics, myself to talk about. But, I have to admit in a lot of ways this picture of a wife was my Mom. Though Dad helps out alot more these days.

Lucidia
July 15th, 2001, 12:45 PM
my opinion:

the biggest issue here, is first of all, making the HUGE assumption that the "modern" woman is a "housewife" or "homemaker".

It's nearly impossible, at least in a larger city like where I live, to survive of a single income unless one partner is making a LOT of money (somewhere over 40k at least) and that's for a comfortable living without kids.

If you are a homemaker/housewife/househusband/or live at home parent, obviously it's your "job" to make sure that the household remains in decent shape. You are at home, in my opinion, to take care of the house, the kids, etc.

This doesn't mean you should be treated like a maid or a servant, but if you're not working, and your spouse (note that i'm not making this a strictly male or female issue) is working full time, possibly plus overtime, I think, as the working spouse, i would appreciate a clean house, and at least a nice cooked meal once in a while.

If a marriage is a true and loving partnership, then the work should be divided equally amongst all involved. If doing all the housework and all the cooking are too much, then perhaps there can be some kind of compromise where the working spouse can cook a few nights a week, do his/her laundry on the weekend.

These "guidelines" where written for a time period where women were rather pre-directed into being "barefoot and pregnant". You stayed at home, you had kids, you took care of the kids, and your husband was the biggest kid of all.

I could rant for hours on this. The only important point is that a marriage is a equal partnership. Although you might not have the same duties and responsibilities, you are ultimately working for the same goals, and therefore should have calm and adult communication reguarding the tasks at hand.

And EVERYONE deserves to be listened to, and listen back, be respected, and be loved. I don't care how hard a job is, taking care of a house full of kids is just as hard (if not harder).

and i'll leave it at that (for now):rolleyes:

ladyrowan
July 15th, 2001, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Yvonne Thomas
The little site mouse is slinking off to hide before the women of the site stone her to death.......

Have i missed something here? Why would we do that Yvonne? You're not saying you agree with it???? Please? lol

Yvonne Belisle
July 15th, 2001, 01:26 PM
Not agree just try to be and most of which on a good day I do. All I wanted to be growing up was June Cleaver well I'm not Suzie Homemaker but I try my best because it's what makes me happy. I bake my own bread make my own candy. Yes if I am putting rollers in my hair I wait till my hubbie is asleep and I always wake up before him so he has breakfast in bed. Slinking off to hide under the porch now...

Earth Walker
July 15th, 2001, 01:27 PM
8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

Yvonne Belisle
July 15th, 2001, 01:28 PM
What's scary is my Dad did all the housework and raised me and worked full time. My Mother was never home and none of my friends mothers were like that it's just me.

ladyrowan
July 15th, 2001, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by gunner
"To the men - don't start getting ideas!!!!!"

actually it's a bit too late, we start getting ideas about the time we start to grow fuzz on our upper lip.





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not that i'm a violent person of course!

Mairwen
July 15th, 2001, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by Lucidia
my opinion:

the biggest issue here, is first of all, making the HUGE assumption that the "modern" woman is a "housewife" or "homemaker".


Honey, look when this was printed. The original post did say "1961" ~ lot has changed since then. Even in "polite society", women have jobs outside the home; "back then", a lot didn't.

Earth Walker
July 15th, 2001, 01:41 PM
When he reaches his moment of fulfillment a small moan from yourself is encouraging to him and quite sufficient to indicate any enjoyment that you may have had.

:D Women of the world, unite
Let him sleep in the wet spot tonight. :bigredgri

Bwaaaaahhaaaaahaaaaa! 8O 8O

Yvonne Belisle
July 15th, 2001, 01:42 PM
Mystique I figured you would probably like me shot. Most of my friends that are feminists tend to think I should be hidden somewhere and kept away from men. I don't think this is for everyone I just thik if I am going to be a house wife I should be the best house wife I can be. I think house hubbies should be able to do the same stuff if they want the job. I do think that any woman who thinks that housewifing is easier than out of the home is nuts one job only for me! In two people working houses I believe everything that has to be done at hoe should be shared. There is only one of me. I don't want a lot of housewives to be like me because then I wouldn't be unique. I like being good at my craft so to speak and that's my home and I still have a long way to go till it runs the way I want it too. Let's see my youngest is 4 so that's a minimum of 14 years with a person or persons that may or maynot help make things smooth. I was my parents nightmare I was a mess monger till the Navy! !8 years of parental woe!

Mairwen
July 15th, 2001, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by Mystique


:D Women of the world, unite


LMAO! You go, girl!! :D

gunner
July 15th, 2001, 02:11 PM
that was written in '61?, i got married in '66 and that was already obsolete. i was working 11-7 as an armed guard, my new wife was working days in an electronics support assembly plant. a "spit-shined" apartment was low on our list of priorities as was/is most of that list. we were more interested in just having a few hours together when we were both awake to enjoy each other's company.

eaglewolf
July 15th, 2001, 02:29 PM
Hey! I wanna woman like that!!

Well, all except that "little moan" part... she's gotta be (( LOUD ))...

I can, however, face the reality of never finding a woman like that... so I'll take what I can get and be happy with it.

;)

~ew

ladyrowan
July 15th, 2001, 04:23 PM
Hey Yvonne, I could do with a wife like you - I hate housework!
Seriously, if you're happy the way things are for you , thats all that matters.
I do sometimes wish that i could stay at home, especially in warm sunny weather, and on freezing cold mornings, and when it's raining, and snowing, and - oh what the heck, wish i could stay at home!!! But there's only me and 2 sons, so i got to work, and besides, I do love my job (work for the Environment Agency).

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Women of the world, unite
Let him sleep in the wet spot tonight.

Great idea, about time!!!!!
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Well, if a I ever get married my wife won't have to worry about that. I've been living on my own now for 7 years or so. Do, all my own cooking, cleaning etc. I kinda like keep things neat and clean and like cooking and long as I can spice things up

Where did you say you live Clef?? haha

loopy
July 15th, 2001, 04:57 PM
That was a great laugh, thank you for sharing. :D

Yvonne-- as long as you're happy with how you live, we won't stone ya. ;)

Danustouch
July 16th, 2001, 12:50 AM
HA!!!!!!!!

The ONLY way my hubby would get THAT treatment, is if it were all some pre-arranged kinky sex roll playing type of thing! And only as long as we'd get to switch identities in the game later on that night!!!!!!!

I'd love to see HIM with curlers in his hair, and a face mask though. Imagine the Photo Op's!!!!! LOL

EasternPriest
July 16th, 2001, 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Danustouch
HA!!!!!!!!

The ONLY way my hubby would get THAT treatment, is if it were all some pre-arranged kinky sex roll playing type of thing! And only as long as we'd get to switch identities in the game later on that night!!!!!!!

I'd love to see HIM with curlers in his hair, and a face mask though. Imagine the Photo Op's!!!!! LOL



Hey..he could probably borrow Mol's pink panties......:p

Sunday's Child
July 16th, 2001, 10:46 AM
There is nothing wrong with being a stay at home mom, if you are happy with it. You should be the best that you can be at whatever you choose.

Danustouch
July 16th, 2001, 01:34 PM
LOL Ep..Maybe so!!!!!!

Seriously though, I'm a homemaker. And I do a pretty good job of it. Hubby makes himself breakfast, cuz he's a 3:a.m type of guy, and i'm a Midnight type of girl, but I pack his lunches, clean his house, do the grocery shopping, and the laundry, I cook his dinners. Sometimes I fix his bath, I always listen to how his day went. I often offer to give him back rubs. I fix cofee for him, fetch him a beer from the fridge now and then. But..I do these things because I love him. Not because I feel it's my role in life as a woman :rolleyes: My husband works in autobody. And he does the work of three men. When he gets home, I can see how tired he is. I like living in a clean house. I like cooking a nice meal, and hearing him praise it, and I like making him comfortable when he gets home. Because I feel that i'm contributing something. If I were living here, not paying the bills, and just sitting in front of the television all day, every day (or computer for that matter)..I'd kind of feel like a leech to him, and wonder what my worth was to him. This way..I feel that I am an equal partner in the relationship. What I contribute to this house, is as valuable to him, as the bills being paid.

BTW...I never "intended" to become a homemaker unless i became a mother. But sometimes lifes circumstances deal you a hand, and you just have to make the best of it. I moved here, to live with my husband, because this is where his job is. There are no jobs in this town (beyond some waitressing, which i can't do for medical reasons)...and the nearest big city is about an hour away. I, unfortunately, do not drive due to a bad phobia. So...I do what I can around the house to contribute, and when I can bring in some money in other ways (articles, readings, etc) I contribute it to the house.

I think women who choose to be a housewife, are choosing a noble career, as noble as any other. Because it is just as much work as a job in corporate america. If not more. LOL. Especially when little feet start pitter pattering around. Gods..if that ain't a full time job, I don't know what is :)

BrigitCayenne
July 16th, 2001, 02:01 PM
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ladyrowan
July 16th, 2001, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by EasternPriest


Hey..he could probably borrow Mol's pink panties......:p

When do we get to hear the story then?? haha

ladyrowan
July 16th, 2001, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Danustouch
LOL Ep..Maybe so!!!!!!

I think women who choose to be a housewife, are choosing a noble career, as noble as any other. Because it is just as much work as a job in corporate america. If not more. LOL. Especially when little feet start pitter pattering around. Gods..if that ain't a full time job, I don't know what is :)



That's just the point "women who CHOOSE"
The article stated what was EXPECTED of women, whether they liked it or not! They had no choice in their lives, there was no equality.
When i first got married 27 years ago (i was very, very young!! lol) I was given a talk similar to this by my mother - she really thought i'd go along with it!! hahahahahahahahaha

gunner
July 16th, 2001, 02:51 PM
"That's just the point "women who CHOOSE"

exactly! yvonne and danustouch made it clear that this is their choice, made as they wish and they can change if they see the need or wish and i strongly suspect that "hey you! make my damm coffee" or the like would get a sharp answer and a very long wait for the coffee unless perhaps it was poured over the shouter's head. as a set of hard and fast "rules of a good wife" to be followed without exception the list that started this thread was, of course ridiculous even back when it was written.

(ever notice even andy capp gets a frying pan bounced off his head every now and again, and old flo has a good right arm.)

Yvonne Belisle
July 16th, 2001, 03:21 PM
I am a proven clutz who says that coffee would be over his head?

gunner
July 16th, 2001, 03:55 PM
well, if you poured it there he might tend to scream in soprano range.

Yvonne Belisle
July 16th, 2001, 04:03 PM
The icepack is the one that goes over the head. My sweetie has learned not to take me for granted. He had me get up just as I was going to sleep to make him dinner one night then ignored me when I needed him. It wasn't a fun house to be in till we made peace reign again.

gunner
July 16th, 2001, 05:22 PM
a wiser old man than me once said "if momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy!"

ladyrowan
July 16th, 2001, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by gunner
a wiser old man than me once said "if momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy!"

there we go girls - our cue to do whatever we want because it will keep everyone happy! hahaha
Thanks Gunner!

Loki
July 16th, 2001, 05:48 PM
My wife wouldn't cook if her life depended on it.

Ha, Ha, Ha

Danustouch
July 16th, 2001, 10:14 PM
Yep..hubby has learned to ask VERYYYYYYY sweetly.."honey, could you please get me a beer"...and say thank you afterward. And if I'm busy...he has to wait. That's the way it works. I'm not his maid, i'm not his servant. I'm his "help-mate". Ewwwwww that sounded almost jehovahs witness for a moment. But..I actually like the term.

bluecat
July 16th, 2001, 11:43 PM
Well, that was an interesting piece of print. The scarey part is THEY MEANT IT!

Ah, well, Sherry is trying to re-housebreak me. I lived alone for a while and acquired some really bad habits.:eek:

And I agree with Gunner!

a wiser old man than me once said "if momma ain't happy ain't nobody happy!"

Blue :cool:

sherry
July 17th, 2001, 07:41 AM
My response to that old timey thinking is it is amazing they all didn't end up in therapy!!

Blue learned how I am before I ever moved out here and adjustedd easily or at least he has appeared to!!these on the list are so funny but I am affraid I'd fail the class!

Dinner is ready when I get it done the time is never the same and if he is in that big of a hurry Sonic and McDonalds can get him fed real quick!! just say the word!!

If I took a nap and put on make up before he got home he'd think we were going out to eat anyway so no need to cook!!

As for the clutter he left it there so he can pick it up unless company is coming and then each thing I pick up will be done with comments so he would need to be home for this or he would miss them!!

As for the being out to dinner without telling or the being gone overnite well I do have issues with that one dinner would be fine and his finger is not broke he could call and tell me but gone overnight he had better be in the hospital someplace because I am affraid he'd need it if he tried that one without a good reason!!

:D :D 8O :D :D As for thee bedroom instructions now I understand why my Grandmothers are cranky !! nuff said:D

gunner
July 17th, 2001, 12:56 PM
"My response to that old timey thinking is it is amazing they all didn't end up in therapy!!"

some did, others just went quietly insane.

ladyrowan
July 17th, 2001, 04:43 PM
Thinking about it seriously, it's probably why there are so many divorces now. In those bad old days women had to put up with the treatment they got (generally speaking). Now we don't.
We expect (rightly so) to be treated as equals and if we're not......on yer bike!