Fluffy bunnies?

[lauren]

OK, since I am still fairly new to Paganism, I thought I'd post this here.

I was on a site for Pagans, cant remember the name now, but basically in the message board section, there was someone wanting to know about dark spells and saying if you think Wicca is all nice and cute then youre just a fluffy bunny. And you should know its got a dark side too.

Then started talking about spells to do on other people and I thought "Surely this isnt right"... surely if you dont beleive in harming others, that doesnt make you a fluffy bunny? I know I dont know much about Wicca/Paganism YET...but does that make me a fluffy bunny, even though I'm willing to learn?

I do *know* about 'As long as it harm none, do as ye will'...and thought this was the correct way to go about things? Hmm...sorry just slightly confused.

[Heathen Dawn]

Wicca isn’t all nice and cute, but practising black magic and doing dark spells isn’t part of the religion. AFAIK.

[DixieWitch]

No, it doesn't make you a fluffy bunny. In my opinion that person is wrong. But that's JMO. This site gives a basis of what a fluffy bunny is:
http://wicca.timerift.net/fluffy.html

Maybe Wicca does have a dark side. But just because I or you or anyone else isn't "into" the dark side or know about it, it doesn't make us a fluffy bunny! Good luck in your studies!

[lauren]

No, it doesn't make you a fluffy bunny. In my opinion that person is wrong. But theat JMO. This site gives a basis of what a fluffy bunny is:
http://wicca.timerift.net/fluffy.html

Maybe Wicca does have a dark side. But just because I or you or anyone else isn't "into" the dark side or know about it, it doesn't make us a fluffy bunny! Good luck in your studies!

Thanks... :)
Can I just say...OH MY GOD.. AFI! <3 Mmm!

[Djiril]

I am not really Wiccan except for borrowing a few ideas from Scott Cunningham, but in my opinion what makes a person fluffy is not the decision not to harm, but the refusal to recognise that the world and nature have a dark side and especially that they themselves have a dark side. If you think that you are all light and sunshine, then you will end up doing harm without knowing it.

I have also heard the term "dark fluffies" used to describe people who think life is nothing but death and destruction or people who cast dark spells just for the heck of it. The person you encountered may be one of them.

[Fairywolf]

To me my deffination of fluffy is this: One who claims to know everything about Wicca and in reality knows nothing. Ex; A person who will try to tell you that you are wrong about your beliefs simply for the fact that it isn't done like that in the movie "The Craft". Ok granted I am just useing that as a example but I have come across people like that.

Sorry I have a hard time putting my thoughts in to words so if you don't understand what I am saying feel free to PM me and I will try to do better at explaining what I mean. :)

[lauren]

I get what you mean. Dont worry you explained quite well. I am good at picking things up. I think the whole thing is starting to make a bit more sense to me now.

I think in myself, I can recognise dark and light. I dont think Wicca is all about love and light and goodness and all the nice things. I mean, as well as it being a beautiful earth-based religion, I uderstand it has to have darkness in it. Like (I think?) I read somewhere... storms, and disease, and fire blazes. These arent exactly all 'nicey nice' things in life but they are still a part of nature and the divine is in all of them, be it good/bad. light/dark...

Yeah I'm starting to understand it now. :)

[Chibi-Fallon]

Anyone who has the "anyone who doesn't embrace the dark side is a fluffy bunny" attitude and preaches about it tends to be the a-holish type in the first place. They're generally just bitter people from my experience and are justifying their bitterness while also making themselves seem "deep" and better then everyone else.
I tend to deal with that sort of darker aspect the same way I deal with Wisconsin. You can acknowledge it’s presents just fine and staying down there for a few days won't kill ya, but you wouldn’t wanna live there (sorry to anyone who lives there. 8O ).
People who are truely fluffy are the ones that are just in "it" (whatever you wanna turn that it into is up to you) for themselves in my opinion.

[Vuthiel]

It seems a lot of people in the pagan community these days worry too much about what others have to say about the things they do. This is generally why I keep my interaction in the pagan community at large to a minimum. I realize it's very easy, especially for someone who's just starting out, to be swayed by what others have to say, especially in regards to "fluff bunnies". No one wants to feel like the odd man out. However, the way I see it, if you're comfortable with what you're doing, you enjoy it, you're responsible about it, and you're genuinely happy with what you're doing, what anyone else thinks about it is irrelevent. At the end of the day, the only person you have to answer to is yourself. You're the one who has to look in the mirror everyday, you might as well like what you see. It's been my experience that people are generally more happy when they're doing what pleases them; not what pleases someone else. So what if someone calls you a "fluff bunny"? How well do they really know you, anyway? If you're happy with who you are, that's all that really matters. Your opinion of yourself is infinitely more important than someone else's opinion of you. After all, who knows you better than you know yourself?

[lauren]

So true.... thankyou all :)
I dont see why I was worried someone was gonna call me a Bunny. No one knows me, and my beliefs anyway. Not even my friends and they dont even know what a bunny is. I'm happy doing this for me and thats it :D
xxx

[pawnman]

Just my two cents: The CENTRAL belief in all of Wicca is the Rede "Harm None". If you believe this, that doesn't make you a fluffy bunny. Fluffy bunnies are to Wicca what posers are to punk rock. They're the ones who go buy a pentacles to irritate their parents, who babble endlessly about casting spells without being able to name a patron god, the ones who scribble nonsense in a book and call it spellcraft. Many Wiccans never even cast spells (I myself haven't done many). These people are trying to separate witchcraft from the religion Wicca, and I don't think it will work out for them.

[Teshuva3D]

This thread is an example of why I love this site!! :)
I've joined(and ultimately left) other online pagan groups because of elitist snobbery,outright hostility between members, or condescending attitudes towards folks asking honest questions...
I'm so glad to have found a place where it's okay not to be all "gloom and doom" without someone telling me I'm being unrealistic or "fluffy"...
I certainly acknowledge the dark aspects of nature as a whole and within myself...as it seems you do,but as the other's said who posted in this thread,one can be responsible and considerate of others without falling into the "fluffy" realm...
Many Blessings to you and good luck to you on your path...
Tesh

[Erincelt]

Wicca isn't all goodness and light. Wicca isn't all shame and darkness. Wicca isn't all ceremony and solemnity. Wicca isn't all laughter and dancing. Wicca is, like any firm religion, just as diverse and varied as the people following it. Personally, these "you aren't dark enough!" people severely boil my blood.

Just thought I'd mention that.

They wouldn't be the first "servant of the Dark Ones" (gah) to be shocked when happy, light-hearted, party-with-the-gods me suddenly had my favorite blade to their throat. One needn't be dark and gloomy to be swift and direct. Lucky for them, I've never had to actually go for blood.

[Ben Trismegistus]

I think that the best definition of "fluffy bunny" is one who is ignorant to the details of the religion, AND is stubbornly obstinate in the face of evidence he or she doesn't want to believe.

Even if you know nothing, if you're willing to adapt your beliefs, and willing to admit when you're wrong about something, you're not a fluffy bunny.

[Heathen Dawn]

The fluffy bunny:

wears a pentagram in public.
Says “Oh my Goddess!” all the time.
Thinks hirs is a superior religion (especially w.r.t monotheistic ones).
Says “merry meet” to non-pagans too.
Sends Yule greeting cards to Christians on Christmas.

and so on, and so on. Culpabilis eram in multis illarum rerum... (I used to be guilty in many of those things). But people do grow out of that stage or find a religion more suitable for them. :graduate:

[Seren Mara]

The fluffy bunny:
Thinks theirs is a superior religion (especially w.r.t monotheistic ones).


That happens SO often, and it's always the people who don't know very much about said monotheistic tradition that they're bashing (it'll usually be Christianity) OR the polytheistic tradition they claim to practice. It's all very well being new to things, but tolerance is necessary! Sorry, that was off-topic slightly.

[Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill]

wears a pentagram in public.

There are a lot of non-fluffies who will wear their pentagram in public. This is definitely not a telling indicator of the level of fluffiness.

Ben T. got it right in my opinon, and there are fluffies in all religions. Not just Wicca or the various other pagan paths.

[Heathen Dawn]

There are a lot of non-fluffies who will wear their pentagram in public. This is definitely not a telling indicator of the level of fluffiness.

I agree, but it’s the fluffies who show it off at every occasion. Non-fluffies tend to wear it under the shirt, or to reserve it only for pagan meetings. I used to walk in the street with the pentagram revealed, just for the show-off.

Come join the Fluff Bunny Tradition (http://www.fluffbunnytrad.com/) today! :D

[Lil Miss Witchy]

Come join the Fluff Bunny Tradition (http://www.fluffbunnytrad.com/) today! :D

That site is too funny! Sadly, the girl who introduced me to Wicca was very much a fluffy bunny! (She's also currently a very dedicated christian now!) While reading through that site (ok, I just skimmed) I saw her!

While I still don't know a lot; I am learning more every day; from various authors and people! This girl relied solely on Silver RavenWolf for a few years and eventually went back to Christianity, finding that it just wasn't "working" for her.

[DebLipp]

I am not really Wiccan except for borrowing a few ideas from Scott Cunningham, but in my opinion what makes a person fluffy is not the decision not to harm, but the refusal to recognise that the world and nature have a dark side and especially that they themselves have a dark side. If you think that you are all light and sunshine, then you will end up doing harm without knowing it.
That is the single best definition of fluffy bunny I have ever seen.

[AmbivalentMirage]

I certainly wouldn't call myself a fluff-bunny... but I know there are those who would. I don't consider it important, however.

In contrast to the witches who rave constantly about how awful newbies are and how ignorante fluff-bunnies are, I find that the beginning witches are the kindest, most creative, and often most intelligent witches you'll meet.

Apparently in 35+ years of experience, some witches forget that they're only human... and that is sad.

[lauren]

Just my two cents: The CENTRAL belief in all of Wicca is the Rede "Harm None". If you believe this, that doesn't make you a fluffy bunny. Fluffy bunnies are to Wicca what posers are to punk rock. They're the ones who go buy a pentacles to irritate their parents, who babble endlessly about casting spells without being able to name a patron god, the ones who scribble nonsense in a book and call it spellcraft. Many Wiccans never even cast spells (I myself haven't done many). These people are trying to separate witchcraft from the religion Wicca, and I don't think it will work out for them.

See alot of people who've reverted to Paganism/Wicca I've noticed they tend to start doing alot of spells straight away.

I have been studying the Craft for over two years & I still dont feel ready to do any spells, nor do I have the need to. Once I fully understand them and when to use them properly, only then may I consider doing any. Right now I am going to try and sort out things in my life myself.

My best friend went through so much heartache after she broke up with her boyfriend last year. And she found it hard to get through each day. She's Wiccan...and I said "Cant you get the Gods to help you out on this one?" and she said "Why should I? This is my problem." Definitely not a bunny :)

[Athena-Nadine]

*...applauds Lauren's friend...*

Not only not fluffy, but she realizes two things that I see many people overlook or blatantly ignore: first, proper respect for the gods, and second, that the gods expect us all to stand on our own and deal with our own proplems without running to Them to try and get Them to fix every single tiny little thing that goes wrong--the god are not here to serve us; we are here to serve them. :)

The people that I personally know who say that those Wiccans who ignore the dark side are fluffy do so because those people are completely ignoring that there is anything dark in this universe at all; they have horribly detached themselves from the reality of existence, and like someone else said, will often cause harm without even knowing it because of it. As far as I've always known, Wicca was never about "harm none." It is about, "harm none without consequences, do nothing without consequences, evaluate those consequences before doing anything, and be prepared to face them, be they positive or negative." But, you know, IANAW.

[DixieWitch]

Just for the record, I wear my pentacle out in public. And not just for showing off reasons either. And I don't hide it under my shirt. And I'm sure as hell not fluffy! At first, I'd do it basically beacuse "if a Christian can wear a cross, I can wear my pentacle" Now I do it because I am proud of my religion. And I have the right to "show it off" just the way a Christian can show off a cross!

[Erincelt]

Just for my own input on a particular side topic we've started here (we do that so often, I swear!).... I too tend to wear my pentacle out in public... actually, pretty much all the time. The only time I'm not wearing it... is when its hung on my shrine and I'm wearing my amulet of Khepera (hail to the dawn). ;) Anyway...

[Heathen Dawn]

Okayyyyyyyy ... sorry for generalising. I just mentioned that when I wore my pentacle in public, I did for showing off. Now I’ve grown out of showing off, and also, because I’m a college student, I’m in the broom closet as well (for grade security reasons).

[DebLipp]

Just for the record, I wear my pentacle out in public. And not just for showing off reasons either. And I don't hide it under my shirt. And I'm sure as hell not fluffy! At first, I'd do it basically beacuse "if a Christian can wear a cross, I can wear my pentacle" Now I do it because I am proud of my religion. And I have the right to "show it off" just the way a Christian can show off a cross!
You go!

I was wearing a pentacle outside the shirt back in 1982; shortly after I stopped wearing a Star of David, ALSO outside the shirt. Nothing fluffy about being proud of who and what you are.

[Izabella]

sometimes im afraid ppl will think im a bunny. i have a penticla tattood on my back. ppl think i have it for showing off. sometimes they ask me if im wiccan and i tell them no. im not wiccan, im a witch. i have it for protection and it has served me well.

[dr_zeus440]

hmmm, IMO, wicca does not have a dark side. why not? because "an it *harm none*, do whatever turns you on" doesnt exactly leave much room for a dark side now does it. sure, nature, magic, witchcraft, whatever has a dark side, but "harming none" is preeeeeetty cut and dry about the darkness.

fluffys, hmmm, they exist (and they proliferate). i think its hard to make a definitive statement about what a fluffy is, but you can sure as damnation list characteristics that, in combination, usually spell out F-L-U-F-F-M-A-S-T-E-R. its too late in the day for me to start giving out fluff qualities now, but you all know what to look out for hey. if not, www.whywiccanssuck.com is a hi-lariously good place to start.

p.s. re pentacles, ive never owned one and dont think i ever will. religion/my relationship to the divine/my private extra-natural philosophies is a personal thing and imo shouldnt be paraded or displayed. no bashin intended, im just saying i wouldnt, its the kind of thing that is no-ones business but mine.

[darkmysticgypsy]

OK, since I am still fairly new to Paganism, I thought I'd post this here.

I was on a site for Pagans, cant remember the name now, but basically in the message board section, there was someone wanting to know about dark spells and saying if you think Wicca is all nice and cute then youre just a fluffy bunny. And you should know its got a dark side too.

Then started talking about spells to do on other people and I thought "Surely this isnt right"... surely if you dont beleive in harming others, that doesnt make you a fluffy bunny? I know I dont know much about Wicca/Paganism YET...but does that make me a fluffy bunny, even though I'm willing to learn?

I do *know* about 'As long as it harm none, do as ye will'...and thought this was the correct way to go about things? Hmm...sorry just slightly confused.
it doesnt make you a fluffy bunny, it just makes you a white witch. magic can be used for any purpose but anyone thinking about using magic for a dark purpose should remember the three-fold rule <whatever you give out you shall recieve three-fold>

[Klucky]

This is all my opinion, of course:

Wicca is the worship of nature. Nature is both good and bad, white and black, nurturing and destructive. It is up to the worshipper of nature how they want to mimick it. They can either be destructive, black, and evil in their spells and such, or they can be good, nurturing, and white. The religion of Wiccan proclaims "harm ye none", which is self-explanitory. However, for Wiccans who practice black magick, they then have to hold up "their end of the bargain"...i.e. Karma. Whatever you send out comes back times three. So, I don't think white witches are fluffy, they just don't have enough hate in them to hurt somebody else and be paid back in spades. In their eyes, it just isn't worth it.

On a semi-fun note, I made this quiz a few days ago. I don't know if it would help.
http://quizilla.com/users/Klucky/quizzes/Are%20You%20A%20Fluffy%20Wiccan%3F

-Klucky

[AmbivalentMirage]

I know your quiz was just for fun, Klucky, so don't take this as being critical. I tried to do your little quiz, but I had some problems. :lol: Well, I'm not wiccan... so some of the stuff was hard to answer. But I do have a few comments on some of your questions. :D

On the first question, it asks about your age. Out of curiousity, what does age have to do with how fluffy you are? If someone happens to be ten years old but they were raised wiccan, I doubt they're going to be excessively fluffy.

I like question number three. :lol: People who mis-spell words to look mystical bother me. lol

Number four is excellent! I think "fluffiness" has a lot to do with how you respect and react to the paths of other people.

For number eight, I chose, "Oh my Goddess!"...which I say frequently. It's not for shock value, it's just that I don't spend much time with the God... so, why talk about Him all the time? lol

I don't see where number ten comes into play. I have to admit, I'm no wicca expert. Is blood-letting considered a no-no in wicca? I know many pagan paths use blood in their rituals.

And number twelve... Who says attention is drawn to me? :lol: I understand the point of this one, however. :)

A good quiz, overall! And it even said I'm not a fluffy wiccan! :lol:

[Laurelei]

I know it's probably a valid point of yours, but I really had issues with the first question of your quiz. Age shouldn't make a difference in your sincerity... I understand there's a lot of fluffy teenage girls, but there'll still be sincere teenagers...

[Klucky]

I know it's probably a valid point of yours, but I really had issues with the first question of your quiz. Age shouldn't make a difference in your sincerity... I understand there's a lot of fluffy teenage girls, but there'll still be sincere teenagers...

Yeah, I debated with myself whether or not to put that question up. Before, I had a semi-valid reason for including it, but now I wonder. Yes, I agree that there are sincere teenagers, I find myself to be one! :lol: However, I was just generalizing. I hope that didn't offend anyone, I mean, I was pretty much bashing myself with it! ;)

-Klucky

[Klucky]

I know your quiz was just for fun, Klucky, so don't take this as being critical. I tried to do your little quiz, but I had some problems. :lol: Well, I'm not wiccan... so some of the stuff was hard to answer. But I do have a few comments on some of your questions. :D

On the first question, it asks about your age. Out of curiousity, what does age have to do with how fluffy you are? If someone happens to be ten years old but they were raised wiccan, I doubt they're going to be excessively fluffy.

I like question number three. :lol: People who mis-spell words to look mystical bother me. lol

Number four is excellent! I think "fluffiness" has a lot to do with how you respect and react to the paths of other people.

For number eight, I chose, "Oh my Goddess!"...which I say frequently. It's not for shock value, it's just that I don't spend much time with the God... so, why talk about Him all the time? lol

I don't see where number ten comes into play. I have to admit, I'm no wicca expert. Is blood-letting considered a no-no in wicca? I know many pagan paths use blood in their rituals.

And number twelve... Who says attention is drawn to me? :lol: I understand the point of this one, however. :)

A good quiz, overall! And it even said I'm not a fluffy wiccan! :lol:


Well, thank you for the comments. It's contructive criticism! :) Most of the quiz was built on my own experiences and what I personally find correct (of course, this doesn't make it true or correct). I think that explains most of the questions, but for the blood-letting, yes, I find it to be a no-no in Wicca. However, some people may disagree (if you've seen the Blood Magick thread), and most of the other Pagan religions are fine with it, but...yeah. I forget where I was going. :lol:

-Klucky

[Erincelt]

hmmm, IMO, wicca does not have a dark side. why not? because "an it *harm none*, do whatever turns you on" doesnt exactly leave much room for a dark side now does it. sure, nature, magic, witchcraft, whatever has a dark side, but "harming none" is preeeeeetty cut and dry about the darkness.
Statement One : Dark and Evil are far from the same thing.

Statement Two : Wicca is primarily centered on being one with natural cycles, and if nature doesn't have a dark side, then I don't have eyes or ears (which I do).

Statement Three : "An' it harm none, do as thou wilt" doesn't at any point in time say "never do harm". It says, rather simply (albeit in bad Edwardian english), that any action which does not cause harm is always acceptable. When we do cause harm, that is why we have the Law of Return to do clean up work.

[Klucky]

Statement One : Dark and Evil are far from the same thing.

Statement Two : Wicca is primarily centered on being one with natural cycles, and if nature doesn't have a dark side, then I don't have eyes or ears (which I do).

Statement Three : "An' it harm none, do as thou wilt" doesn't at any point in time say "never do harm". It says, rather simply (albeit in bad Edwardian english), that any action which does not cause harm is always acceptable. When we do cause harm, that is why we have the Law of Return to do clean up work.

Yeah, I pretty much agree with you on everything there. And just for the record, I'm dark and morbid, but not evil, so yeah, dark and evil are two different things.

-Klucky

[Alexandra Asinine]

Another place to find out if you're a fluffy bunny is http://www.whywiccanssuck.com

Oh and, that's the first idiot I've heard that thinks you're fluffy if you don't hurt people.

[dr_zeus440]

Statement One : Dark and Evil are far from the same thing.

agreed. but in this case, i assume that the so called "dark side" of wicca is the side associated with doing harm (side isnt exactly the right word). and whether you believe in the rede or not, i think most people would agree that an act that does harm is an evil act. whether its justified or not is another question entirely imo.


Statement Two : Wicca is primarily centered on being one with natural cycles, and if nature doesn't have a dark side, then I don't have eyes or ears (which I do).

here it's just a difference of opinion. i think that wicca has no primary concern, but a few basic ones that are common to the very term 'wicca', no matter what trad. name you put before it, one of which is the rede (after all, if it doesnt follow the rede, its not wiccan, if it does, it is). however, for arguments sake, i'd say that logically (and i could definitely be wrong, but i reckon the law believes the same as i do) the central concern of a religion is that which defines it, it's doctrine. and im out on a limb here, so correct me if im wrong, but isnt the doctrine of wicca (as recognised by the law) the rede?

and secondly, i would say that nature doesnt have a dark side :P 'nature' is a collective with no determinable mortal moral conscience, therefore cannot make moral decisions and so cannot be judged by moral standards. nature is as it is and can be no other way. so really, if wicca was completely centred on nature, then there would be no need for moral codes such as the rede, and things like the threefold law wouldnt exist because they go against what is primarily natural i.e. the laws of thermodynamics or entropy if you will.


Statement Three : "An' it harm none, do as thou wilt" doesn't at any point in time say "never do harm". It says, rather simply (albeit in bad Edwardian english), that any action which does not cause harm is always acceptable. When we do cause harm, that is why we have the Law of Return to do clean up work.

hmm, true. i guess, like most things, its in the interpretation. i would interpret it to say 'as long as it harms nothing, do what you want'. my interpretation implies that an action that does harm is unallowable, imo. good points.

[pawnman]

You're not a fluffy Wiccan! Okay, well, you may be just a little, but who isn't? Nobody's perfect. You're more caring than most and put others first. You have read up on Wicca for a good part of your life now and always take it seriously. You may not particuarly like Pagan-hating Christians, but you will sit calmly and listen to what they have to say. Sometimes you'll try to correct their views, sometimes you won't. It all depends. You're one to usually keep to yourself and not draw attention. Overall, you're probably a darn good Wiccan.

I was pretty happy with this result.

[Erincelt]

( In a previous opst, dr_zeus440 made a very thorough and good reply, but it was long, so just scroll up and read it first, thanks. :) )

Oh I agree with you in fact, that there is room for interpretation, but I simply have trouble seeing any implied avoidance of harm in "as long as it harms none, do what you want"... but its a slightly nit picky thing I admit. Don't get me wrong, I do try to avoid harm, or at least my idea of what harm is. I just do it for my own reasons, I guess.

Now.. I do realize that I have strict definitions of some words, as is taught by the Tradition I profess, and sometimes I use those words in traditional context and don't realize it, so for points of clarity...

dark -- To do with those things in life which are uncomfortable, unpleasurable, or morbidly realist, but which are inevitable and unavoidable except through delusion. Aka, its not being depressed or angry all the time, but opening up to the depressing and angered part of ourself and simply accepting it as a valid and real part of our persona, and learning to live with it. Through the balance peace is found.

evil -- Consilium Wicca has a specific definition for our concept of Evil. Evil, to us, is the proliferation of the Two Highest Vices, a reference to the fifith quote of the great Oath every new initiate takes. The Two Highest Vices are "self-deceit" and "voluntary ignorance". The first one allows us to do what we know is wrong, by somehow tricking ourselves into thinking it is right, or that we are justified. For example: the Biblical story of Cain sacrificing his brother, an act of jealousy which he convinced himself to be an act of devotion. The second one is the refusal to grow and develope, and the refusal to accept the existance of things outside one's knowledge or experiance.

On the Threefold Law... we simply don't have it. We have the Law of Return, which is similar in that it is a Karma-like concept, but it behaves in a way more like the entropy you mentioned. Since we consider entropy the most dominant "substance" of the universe, I think that sums up our thoughts on that. :)

I don't think I meant exactly what I said, though, when I said that Wicca is centered on attunement to Nature. I meant it yes, but I think it implied a degree that I didn't really mean to. Hindsight, as they say.

And Klucky -- Hey, I'm right there with ya, bud. Maybe I'll see you sometime, running with the wolves, chasing the white stag. ;)

[Klucky]

And Klucky -- Hey, I'm right there with ya, bud. Maybe I'll see you sometime, running with the wolves, chasing the white stag. ;)

I don't run WITH the wolf, I run FROM it! :lol:

-Klucky

[Illiandra]

The concept of a fluffy bunny to me has always been someone who says they are one thing :wiccan, goth, sports enthusiast, nerd, and yet they only say that to portray and image. They have no idea of anything except gossip and tv movie talk. If this is a concience choice to follow a life patern and not a fun time play than you are not a fluffy bunny.
You have the ability to choose right from wrong. If you know it is harmful you have to be prepared to suffer the consequences of your actions. It seems to be a misconception that you will not be punished if you harm someone, be it physical, emotional, or spiritual. The whole concept of do no harm is followed like an honor system. No one has the right to label anyone as a fluffy bunny for following THE rule. There are times when you might do something that is harmful, with or without intention. We are in essence human and not perfect in design, ruled by emotion not always logic. By doing any working that involves someone other than just you without their permission, even in the best intentions can be harmful. So like I said above you must be prepared for the consequences be them good or bad. But dont let someone who doesn't have any real knowledge to back up their words damage you. They sound like fluffy bunnies to me, I wonder who they were trying to impress.

[Erincelt]

....... I wonder who they were trying to impress.I'm a racist. I'm prejudiced against the human race. ;):D Seriously, though, I wanted to re-emphasize your words here... probably hit the proverbial nail on the head.