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tas02715
February 29th, 2004, 11:11 AM
I've been reading up on becoming a solitary. I read that u can initiate yourself,but some covens & wiccans look down on that. I know I should look to the goddess for help, but I'd like to hear some of your opinions. THANX! :colorful:

Antoninus
February 29th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Im solitary, I never did a real dedication ritual. I couldnt tell you how to do it, but in my opinion, the second you can say "I believe in the Goddess (Or A goddess(s)" and beleive it, then your Pagan/Wiccan. There are some people who get uptight if you arent "initiated", I personally dont see what the big deal is, this isnt a "Member's Only" club.

Klucky
February 29th, 2004, 11:59 AM
I'm solitary. Every coven kicked me out. :rotfl: No, that's a lie. I have yet to ever catch word of a coven in Pennsylvania, though I'm sure they're around. And I like to do things MY way, anyhow. I'm very stubborn.

-Klucky

sweet nothings
February 29th, 2004, 12:16 PM
And I like to do things MY way, anyhow. I'm very stubborn.

-Klucky

Yeah, if I couldn't do things the way I wanted to I probably wouldn't do it...as for initiation...as far as I'm concerned...if you believe in what you're doing then you were initiated from the start.

Faeawyn
February 29th, 2004, 02:49 PM
I have information on self initiations in my books....but I've never done it myself. I'm a solitary as well......Just believe in yourself and the magick around you....and always mind the rule of 3.
However, if you really want to do the self initiation ritual, you can find info on the internet, or just let me know and I'll look it up in my books for you and send it to you :)

Valkie
February 29th, 2004, 03:10 PM
every pagan/wiccian I know is a solitary. Once and a while we'll all get together for a holiday, but other than that we're just a bunch of solitaries that hang out together. I don't know anyone that is actually part of a coven so... I wouldn't know as far as the looking down thing.

Valerie

Boogins
February 29th, 2004, 03:14 PM
I just think you are as you believe, if you truly believe. If a self-dedication ritual makes you feel good, that's fine, but it's not like you need to convince anyone, is it?

~Shamanna~
February 29th, 2004, 04:18 PM
We're all solitary as we are all unique in our relationship with The Divine. I think it is a really powerful and special thing to make a vow/dedication to your Goddess/God and this enhances our connection. It can be good to meet with like minded people occasionally and share thoughts, ideas etc and, when lots of energy for healing is needed this is really important, but most important thing is, to be happy and at one with who you are. I have initiated and it was the most incredible, deeply moving experience of my life, as I moved from this realm to TheOther and met with The Ancient Ones it was awesome.

tas02715
March 12th, 2004, 06:18 PM
Thanks guys for your advice. Sorry it took so long to answer back!!!! :thewave:

WillowSageheart
March 12th, 2004, 06:30 PM
I was initiated the "proper" way in what feels like 100 years ago. I haven't been part of a coven in years and years. And you are right, there are those that look down on the self-initiated. Those are the types that made me decide to become solitary in the first place.

Someone will always look down on you for something. Who really cares? What is important is how YOU feel... not them. I rededicated myself as a solitary because I personally wanted to do it. It felt right for me to perform the ritual and spend the time to make my commitment.

So, IMO, if you want to self-initiate, do it... make it special and memorable. If others don't like it tell them to stick it. It might be a path travelled by many, but it is still YOUR path. You can walk it any way you'd like.

Amethyst Rose
March 12th, 2004, 06:37 PM
There are some people who get uptight if you arent "initiated", I personally dont see what the big deal is, this isnt a "Member's Only" club.

Well actually, to British Traditional Wiccans (Gardnerians, Alexandrians, Georgians) it IS a member's only club. It is a mystery tradition that one must be initiated into in order to call themselves Wiccan.
There are two types of Wicca, however. The Eclectic, solitary type does not require initiation -- IMO initiation requires another person to initiate you, the term "self initiation" is an oxymoron. However, feel free to dedicate yourself to your path and the gods. Heck feel free to do whatever you like....that's what makes this second Wicca so unique, you can do whatever the heck you want -- just don't expect everyone to like it. :)

Sabrina
March 13th, 2004, 08:17 AM
I've been reading up on becoming a solitary. I read that u can initiate yourself,but some covens & wiccans look down on that. I know I should look to the goddess for help, but I'd like to hear some of your opinions. THANX! :colorful:

Greetings:

I'll offer some help here if I may.
I've not been around much lately - but still pop in and read a bit when I can.

I was solitary for years and claimed such. Now, I happen to believe that "solitary" means solitary ______ something - right? Otherwise why use the term.
Most people who want to just be thought of as witch shouldn't have to use the term solitary - unless perhaps they live alone LOL.
(my little joke - sorry)

But really - to use the word solitary indicates solitary practice of ______ something. And most likely Wicca. So let's say someone is practicing solitary Wicca -which by the way IS rather hard to do since Wicca by itself is considered to be an initiated religion.

Tis almost a puzzle - yes?

So let's giggle at the lack of terms we actually have to describe what should be a fabulous position -
the one you're in.....

practicing solitary Wicca.
Now that we can toss the dictionary and most preconcieved ideas or opinions out the window let's talk about what really matters.
(and this IS just my suggestion folks...I make no claim as any expert - k?)
LOL

But I think what matters is your spirituality, your practice and your commitment to the craft of the wise. IF you start focusing upon your studies and perhaps select something specific to specialize in - then you can refer to yourself that way. Aka - a tarot card reader or herbalist....
like that.

personally, I do not agree with the terminology of "self initiation"...for that's rather an oxymoron to my way of thinking.
But
Self Dedication
yes..............that's a term to serve anyone practicing alone can use.

And one more thing.....if you are active here ...does that not count as your family or coven? Does that NOT prevent you from being completely solitary?

I think online communities ARE covens to a great extent. Many describe and discuss their rituals prior to enacting them. They share their feelings and practices, spells and actions and so forth...
much as covens do(?)

Just food for thought.

You are part of a wonderful web - a family and are never really alone. A bond lies deep within us all and we are here for eachother. Let no one take that from you. For each time you ritual or study the full moon...many brothers and sisters are with you.

Thanks for allowing me to add my .02 worth <smile>

May this posting find you all happy and well!