View Full Version : What would YOU do for a friend?
Cappy
March 18th, 2004, 01:36 PM
Someone asked me this a while back and it got me thinking so much that I started wondering what you guys would do.
Say you made a friend here on MW from a different country. And for some reason (be it personal/political whatever) they wanted to become a citizen of your country. Would you marry them to make the process easier?
The question to me was would you marry someone to help them get into Canada. For me it realy depends. I would have to know the person. But I think I would. I was so blessed to be born in Canada, if someone I knew was from a country where there was war constantly, I don't think I would want them to live there either. But like I said, I would have to KNOW them.
Xeen
March 18th, 2004, 01:45 PM
Ummm... no. I wouldn't marry them into the country. That's just wrong in my book. Especially into the USA.
FaerieGothMommy
March 18th, 2004, 01:58 PM
No, i wouldn't!! I'm not even planning on marrying my partner who i have 2 children with, as i don't see the point - maybe when i am 60, seriously!
I have my reasons.
ambermystique
March 18th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Ehhhh...why not?
I mean, I'm not with anyone right now.
Also, this person must be someone I am close with.
No offense to any of you, but I don't really think I know you well enough.
If someone were stuck in a war-torn country, and the only way to escape was by marrying me...yep, I'd do it.
I don't feel all that totally priviledged or happy to live in this country anyway, so if someone really wants to come here that bad...come and get it... :)
I'd much rather live in Canada or Norway or even France...
The US has way too much crime, especially when it comes to guns.
(Not that the US needs better gun control --- Canada has less than we do, yet they still have an insanely significant amount LESS deaths by guns.)
Sorry, got off onto a tangent!
Yes, I'd marry him/her (if I lived in Massachusetts!)!!! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_110.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/11/11_1_110.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001)
peace and love,
amber
docdoo
March 18th, 2004, 02:20 PM
mmmm...nope Im afraid I wouldnt do it. No way, no how...a marriage of convenience is still a marriage and like it or not there are many legal implications of marriage.
Also, I believe that there is a law on the books pertaining to the length of time you have to be married to someone for them to become an 'official' citizen of a country.
What if you did this as a favor and then decided that you literally despised the person? Too bad, you're stuck with them! Im all for helping a friend in need...but in my opinion the helping would stop short of marrying...geesh what if you found someone you 'really' loved during the time you were committed to the friend?
The whole things brings quite a few issues to the forefront...none of which I'de be willing to deal with...
Til next time,
Pesha
March 18th, 2004, 02:20 PM
I ewould do alot for my friends, except go into a marriage for a green card for them. What more can I say. It is a very bad move to make. Sorry but that is my pov.
BB
DS.
Goddess Rhiannon
March 18th, 2004, 02:25 PM
In my personal experience.....I have found that marriage is not a word....it is a sentence !!!!!
No, I would not marry someone just so they could become a citizen.
Radocs
March 18th, 2004, 02:44 PM
No way.
MerrisHawk
March 18th, 2004, 02:45 PM
Nuh Uh, no way, bad move.
I've done almost everything else but that would be a big fat lie. I've opened my home for over 20 years to those in need of a safe place to stay or to help get them on their feet. In return they've kept me company, destroyed my furniture, did some excellent cooking, left garbage behind, helped keep an eye on my kids while I worked and ran up my phone bill to $1600.00 in one month. Most of these people are still friends. Karma will catch up to the rest.
All this stuff was only temporary but it did have an effect on my family.
Pros and cons, some things are just things but marriage is meant to be permanent. It shouldn't be used as a tool.
Avalon
March 18th, 2004, 02:46 PM
No way.
I must agree with the ever-succinct Radocs here.
Semele
March 18th, 2004, 02:46 PM
nah, might upset my husband anyway!
Cappy
March 18th, 2004, 03:02 PM
nah, might upset my husband anyway!
:lol:
Fairywolf
March 18th, 2004, 04:39 PM
Nope don't think I could.
alesay
March 18th, 2004, 04:50 PM
Nope, really wouldn't... Not to mention, in the US, people can hop a donut, sail into florida and later get their citizen ship anyhow... Remember that little boy?! Though he has family here, he was given citizen ship (wasn't he? i might be mixin my news) But either way, the "Land of the Free" is becoming " the land of the easy" anyone can come here and be a citizen... I wouldn't marry for a green card... Hell, don't wanna marry anyway! :hahaha:
Yasmine Galenorn
March 18th, 2004, 07:01 PM
Nope...not to mention, I'm already married and plan on staying that way (this one works!). Having been through one very bad marriage already, all I can say is if the situation arose to where I was single again, I'd be very, very cautious about who I married, IF I ever married again. I lucked out with my sweetie this time, but I wouldn't want to take a chance on marrying someone who I couldn't love as much as I love him, not to mention the chance of being saddled financially and emotionally with someone you might end up hating, and knowing that YOU could get in trouble if the government found out what you did.
Yasmine :colorful:
sweet nothings
March 18th, 2004, 07:05 PM
Ehhhh I dont think so....I would for someone I love......but then that wouldn't be a friend....that'd be my lover....im not saying you an't love you're friend...but I mean true love ya kno...meant to be suppost to marry love.....if my friend was in a dangerous situation yes...otherwise no
nomadicdragon
March 18th, 2004, 07:08 PM
I couldn't marry someone that I didn't love. And my soon to be divorce has just convinced me of that even more. I would do anything for a friend, but I couldn't marry someone I didn't love. Marriage should be more then just a convenience.
blueiris
March 18th, 2004, 07:13 PM
i wouldn't most likely. but i was wondering - if you did marry a person for that reason, could you just get a divorce and then they could stay in the country? Or would they have to go back to their country?
nomadicdragon
March 18th, 2004, 07:15 PM
you'd have to wait like 3 years. That's how long it takes to get the green card.
FaerieGothMommy
March 19th, 2004, 02:22 AM
Okay, you know why i wouldn't do it? Because the amount of horror stories i've heard of, of what men do once they are married & into the country. And well, no matter how close i am to someone, i just wouldn't want to risk that.
Also, we have faaaaarrrr too many immagrents in our country as it is, who are skiving off of our benefits!!!
And get this, an immagarent got all his benefits back-dated and got £20,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that money is from our wages, that we work long & hard for! How DARE he come into OUR country, and claim all that money!! :bastard:
Sorry, but nope! Couldn't risk it
amberwolf
March 19th, 2004, 07:13 AM
Also, we have faaaaarrrr too many immagrents in our country as it is, who are skiving off of our benefits!!!
And get this, an immagarent got all his benefits back-dated and got £20,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that money is from our wages, that we work long & hard for! How DARE he come into OUR country, and claim all that money!! :bastard:
I totally agree with you FGM....plus I have to agree with
In my personal experience.....I have found that marriage is not a word....it is a sentence !!!!!
No, I would not marry someone just so they could become a citizen.
Ive been there done the marriage thing before and definately wouldnt do it again just so someone could get into this country.... :hairraise
branwen74
March 19th, 2004, 09:02 AM
No, just no
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