View Full Version : What does love mean to you?
serenarian
March 26th, 2004, 07:17 AM
I'm interested to know. I want your versions of what love is, and also to add it as a sub-question, why not describe your ideas of a perfect relationship?
Something to start you guys off because I love causing discussions :D
- can love exist without sex?
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
Sorry if this is posted in the wrong forum - admins etc, feel free to move it! :D
mucgwyrt
March 26th, 2004, 07:22 AM
1) Yes - I love my cat, my mum loves me, my boyfriend loves his siblings.
2) Physically definately, emotionally not really.
3) Most fulfilling was with my boyfriend especially when we first got together - back then I was with him to learn a lot of things, sex was the icing on the cake which we both thoroughly enjoyed ;)
Its still what I consider 'a perfect relationship' - we can talk together about most things, about life and the universe, philosophy, religeon, people, our jobs etc etc...
Betah
March 26th, 2004, 08:15 AM
:fpeek: Dunno...
Avalon
March 26th, 2004, 08:52 AM
- can love exist without sex?
Of course. There are non-family members that I love where sex would never even enter the equation.
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
If you are looking to heal the sexual side of yourself, I think it can be. Sometimes "fulfillment of the flesh" is all you need.
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
I'll let you know when it happens. ;)
Radocs
March 26th, 2004, 09:34 AM
- can love exist without sex?
Yes.
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
Yes.
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
Not something I'm gonna talk about. ^_^
mothwench
March 26th, 2004, 10:02 AM
1. yes.
2. not in my experience, but i speak for myself.
3. the one i'm in now. a bit of a rollercoaster, but fulfilling nonetheless. :)
phoenixblayze
March 26th, 2004, 10:35 AM
I'm interested to know. I want your versions of what love is, and also to add it as a sub-question, why not describe your ideas of a perfect relationship?
Something to start you guys off because I love causing discussions :D
- can love exist without sex?
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship
to start off, i believe that love is when you feel that you can be yourself around another person, when you can trust and rely on them completely, and when they make you feel content. you can take that both with a friendship or love interest.
and i dont think that there is ever a perfect relationship, its how you overcome obsticales that makes it last or not.
as for the questions:
-yes, i have loved people that i never wanted to be intimate with
-it depends on what your wanting in your life. if you dont want a deep relationship with someone, then i guess sex can be fulfilling. if you do, and sex is all your getting, without any emotional needs being met....then no.
-i would have to say my relationship with my husband. we understand eachother, and accept eachother for who we are....quirks, bad habits, and all :)
mucgwyrt
March 26th, 2004, 10:38 AM
to start off, i believe that love is when you feel that you can be yourself around another person,
Totally!
This morning we were dancing around the house getting ready for work and singing the Spongebob theme song - he had the chorus and I had the verse :lol:
Yasmine Galenorn
March 26th, 2004, 10:44 AM
I'm interested to know. I want your versions of what love is, and also to add it as a sub-question, why not describe your ideas of a perfect relationship?
Something to start you guys off because I love causing discussions :D
- can love exist without sex?
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
Sorry if this is posted in the wrong forum - admins etc, feel free to move it! :D
Perfect relationship: there ain't no such animal. Perfection doesn't exist and if you expect a perfect relationship, you're always going to be disappointed. You figure out what really matters, and what you can live with that does bug you. :)
Having said that: my ideal relationship is close to what I'm in now. We love each other more than when we started...that's always a good thing. We've grown closer over the years instead of apart. We don't need to spend every minute with each other--we both have our own interests and can amuse ourselves, but do enjoy spending time together. We trust each other--and that took time for me because of baggage from my first marriage. Our sex life is better than when we started, another plus. It's been eleven years and we're still growing as a couple and definitely as individuals. We do have traits that bug each other, but they aren't that big and when something comes up, we talk it over, even if it hurts a bit, because our marriage is based on honesty and clear communication. We allow each other to be human, and that means making some mistakes, but those mistakes allowed do not include breaking our oaths to one another.
- can love exist without sex?
Yes, though I am a sensualist and for me, the love that exists without sex is the love I have for family, our cats, and dear friends. I see it as the difference between loving someone, and being IN love with someone.
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
Yes. It can, if you start knowing what you expect out of the other person and vise versa.
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
The one I'm in now.
Yasmine :colorful:
Antoninus
March 26th, 2004, 11:47 AM
Love is one of the greatest ironies in the world. It can make you feel like a god, make you feel like theres nothing you couldnt do, make you feel happier than any person on earth. But at the same time, it can utterly destroy you and your entire world, people have done terrible things for love. Killed other people or themselves, stolen things, committed crimes. I personally think people dont take love seriously enough, when someone tells them that they love them they just say "Oh ok, whatever, I...love you too" IN SOME CASES. Theres no age limit on love, theres no rules for it, theres no guidelines, no rulebook, no scenario or training school. Love is the great unpredictable
Moon Daughter
March 26th, 2004, 12:07 PM
"Love is the great unpredictable"... beautifully said!
love without sex- yes, it can definitely exist. you know, there is love and then there is Love; Love does not need sexual fulfillment, it just is. Love for the people, animals, the Planet etc.
sex without love- well, sort of. yes and no. i find that i cannot fully let go, relax and simply be and enjoy, when i feel there is no connection, no love, when it's simply sex.
with someone i once loved- it can be, probably not only because we know each others' bodies, but also because some love always remains.
my ideal relatioship- that's a difficult one, since i am still a baby ( 20); but there is a possibility that the one that i am in right now could evolve into an ideal one- when not only can we stay up all night, after a rough day, making love and talking and making love again, but also when some nights we simply stay up doing our own thing- he is writing his music, and i work on my writing. it is where our relatioship consists of Me, Him and Us, not just us; where it is not us walking the same path, but where we walk our paths together.
Semele
March 26th, 2004, 12:18 PM
- can love exist without sex?
Yes of course! Sex is just a bonus.
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
Sure, but like all things it can maybe be improved upon with the addition of love.
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
All of them.
lunachic420
March 27th, 2004, 01:57 AM
Love means everything to me. Passion is the spirit behind existence.
1) Yes.
2) Yes.
3) Honestly, I'm proudest of the relationship that I've developed with myself as self and myself as goddess. But for a relationship of the gettin'married kind I'd have to say the one I share with my husband...We are like butter, and even though there are some things that we could have done differently to get here that might have made all the nows a little easier, we are still as perfect as two crazy people can be! ;)
Athena my Goddess
March 27th, 2004, 09:05 AM
love's a thing wich has always hurt me. Like a beautiful rose wich stings,it makes me hope a little while and then bleed a lot and I can't stop it. I really loved twice and I really bled twice,I cried and my heat still hurts me cos I'm afraid of this.
Love's a beautiful thing I'll never know.
LittleRhiannon
March 27th, 2004, 01:10 PM
- can love exist without sex?
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
-yes it can. I've loved romantically but not felt inclined to have sex.
-well, I don't really know, seeing as I've never had sex, but I personally think that sex and love can go together, or be seperate.
-Haven't really had one yet, but I have time, I'm young :)
Love to me is seperate from lust, which is more of a physical attraction. Love is hard to define, because I've found it's very irratioinal, there isn't always a better reason to why you love someone than because you simply can't not love them.
Jeleia
March 27th, 2004, 01:16 PM
- can love exist without sex? Yep! I love my family, my cat and my best friend.
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love? In my opinion no. Its still good, but when you have sex with someone you love its 100times better :)
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship? At first I was going to say my ex-boyfriend of 2.5 years... The beginning of our relationship was wonderful, but as soon as we moved in together it went down hill. So I think my most fulfilling relationship is the one I have is with my best friend. We have some horrible spats, but we've moved on and we're so close. I love her to death :)
Antoninus
March 27th, 2004, 01:35 PM
love's a thing wich has always hurt me. Like a beautiful rose wich stings,it makes me hope a little while and then bleed a lot and I can't stop it. I really loved twice and I really bled twice,I cried and my heat still hurts me cos I'm afraid of this.
Love's a beautiful thing I'll never know.
Theres someone for everyone out there my friend. Most people dont notice that person because theyre too affraid, or because they have thier head turned. Keep your eyes foreward, and you cant miss them.
Cobalt Cobra
March 27th, 2004, 01:38 PM
My thoughts:
can love exist without sex?
Yes - sex is a basic animal function entirely dependent on horomones and basic instincts. Love is an emotion that relies on other chemical processes independent of the sex drive.
Yup. At least for me it can be.
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- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
The one I'm in right now ^_^ To wax sappy, we are a perfect match :D We have our fights, etc, but there is no one I would ever rather be with. We just... mesh! Hard to describe, even though I've written dozens of poems for him :)
Athena my Goddess
March 27th, 2004, 03:18 PM
Theres someone for everyone out there my friend. Most people dont notice that person because theyre too affraid, or because they have thier head turned. Keep your eyes foreward, and you cant miss them.
i hope u're right Antoninus...U know that's strange that YOU tell me that caus the guy I love's called Anthony...
I hope u're right cos if you're not,I don't know what I'll do of my life. I've about 65years in front of me (if i live 80 years)and without love,what will I do? I'll finish as a poor old woman with for friends her books and her cat....brrrr!I really gope u're right!
Antoninus
March 27th, 2004, 04:36 PM
I KNOW Im right, I may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I DO know some things for a fact. And while my real name isnt Antoninus, it IS interesting because Anthony is an altered form of Antoninus
Kitfox
March 27th, 2004, 06:55 PM
- can love exist without sex?
- can sex be REALLY fulfilling without love?
- what's been your most fulfilling relationship?
1. Yes, very much so. There's a lot of love between my sister and I that (obviously) isn't sex based. In relationships, this is true as well. I spent two years not having sex with my boyfriend before we finally did and I loved him before and after, though perhaps slightly differently.
2. I don't know, never tried it, but I think it depends on the person. For me, I don't think it would be.
3. My relationship with a beautiful young man named Athens. He was three years my senior and had been my best friend since I was nine when we started dating. It was one of those things were "I want to kiss you to say hello after not seeing you for a while" turned into "I want to kiss you because I love you". We dated for three and a half years and he was the first person I had sex with.
We were so comfortable with each other. We used to talk for hours about religion, books, movies, politics, and family. I loved just to talk with him all the time.
Sadly, he was diagnosed with cancer when he was 18 and died a few weeks before his 19th birthday. I miss him more than I can possibly bear and I think about him all the time.
Vanessa TPD
March 27th, 2004, 07:20 PM
it is where our relatioship consists of Me, Him and Us, not just us; where it is not us walking the same path, but where we walk our paths together.
That's such a good way of putting it.
Sadly, he was diagnosed with cancer when he was 18 and died a few weeks before his 19th birthday. I miss him more than I can possibly bear and I think about him all the time.
:huddle:
Kitfox
March 28th, 2004, 01:05 AM
:huddle:
Thanks! Huggles are always welcome.
tuatha
March 28th, 2004, 01:10 AM
love is not soght after. It is found with out explenation
tuatha
March 28th, 2004, 01:11 AM
love is not sex its....Its knowing
MoonDust
March 28th, 2004, 02:40 AM
Love is every emotion you could possibly have rolled up in to one. It is the ability to be with this person and be nothing but yourself. Love is when you think of the person and you can literally feel your heart swell within your chest.
This can be your mother, sister, brother, husband, wife, significant other, relative, pet, whoever you love.
When you love someone there is no question of your love. You never have to ask yourself whether you love this person or not. You know. You can argue, fight, rant, rave, but at the end of the day you know your still going to be together and you’re still going to love each other.
Love is work. Love is blood sweat and tears. And love is worth it all.
I do believe that love can exist without sex and sure sex can be fulfilling with out love. But when you have sex with the one you love it is an extension of your feelings for each other.
All my relationships with the people I love are fulfilling. They are each unique and my heart has room for them all.
Athena my Goddess
March 31st, 2004, 08:03 AM
I KNOW Im right, I may not be the brightest crayon in the box, but I DO know some things for a fact. And while my real name isnt Antoninus, it IS interesting because Anthony is an altered form of Antoninus
in fact it is.but how do you KNOW,how can u b sure of what u said???
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