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The Arcane One
March 29th, 2004, 08:21 PM
undefined Im new and would like to know some SPELLS

dragonspirit 69
March 29th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Spell for what ?? and are you ready to do them ?? It takes lots of visualiation , trust , imagionation , and energy. I don't know how many people will just " hand " you a spell without knowing how serious in the faith you are so please don't get upset if you don't a spell on this thread . Take care.

Faeawyn
March 29th, 2004, 08:52 PM
What path do you follow? How long have you been studying. "Spells" don't work at all without the proper knowledge and preparation. It takes time....look around and learn. We're going to be offering some teaching courses here soon. Take a few and see how it goes :)

spirit wind
March 30th, 2004, 06:06 AM
I agree!

Spells are not something that you play with. I find the best spell is written yourself and with alot of research behind it.

Brightest Blessings
Spirit Wind
(hopefully soon to be ~Lady~Dragon~)

dr_zeus440
March 30th, 2004, 07:52 AM
what spells would you like to know?

Nighthawk
March 30th, 2004, 10:38 AM
Most write their own spells.... like has been said. But, it is not quick nor an easy thing to do . The path (ANY) path takes dedication and time... and maturity..not age, and done in clarity. Good luck...

Heathen Dawn
March 30th, 2004, 10:40 AM
And don’t forget the raison d’être of Wicca is worship of the Gods.

PoetryInDespair
March 30th, 2004, 08:28 PM
Click (http://www.wiccaforbeginners.com/) (need to be 18+)
Click (http://www.joellessacredgrove.com/)
Click (http://www.solitaryhaven.com/)
Click (http://www.beliefnet.com/)
Click (http://www.ozwicca.com/)

Here are some links for the basics. If you want more just message me I have a ton!

xblue420x
March 31st, 2004, 03:03 AM
I would like to 2nd what everyone else has already said and add, even if you aren't new to the craft-if you don't know what your doing spells will either be uneffective or plain dangerous. I was taking one of the 'classes' at WitchSchool.com And I think this book would be very helpful to you(I'm even planning on buying it-at witchschool they only offer the first chapter)

Before You Cast a Spell
Understanding the Power of Magic
by Carl M Colman

dr_zeus440
March 31st, 2004, 07:06 AM
hmmm, im not trying to be a warmonger, but i disagree with pretty much all of you :).

1) the 'raison (reason) d' (of) etre (being)' of Wicca (or the reason of wicca's existence), as you put it Heathen Dawn, i would imagine would have to be defined by it's creator, so can you support that with a quote? besides, any reason behind the existence and purpose of wicca will be subjective. AND, on top of that, arcane one said nothing about wicca. as far as we know, he or she doesnt give a rats about the gods.

2) its pessmistic to assume that if a beginner is given a spell then it will either not work or, if it does work, then it will do harm. as much as i hate to perpetuate the stereotype, hundreds of groups of teenage girls with little to no knowledge and one spell get together each day at slumber parties and have a bit of fun. now, dont you think we would hear about it if all of these harmless dabblings ended up summoning beelzebub out of thin air? and there's no better way to learn by going out there and doing it, even if you do get it wrong and have to deal with the consequences/demons afterwards.

3) arcane one; if you want a spell, be specific and say what you want it to do. the one thing i object to is magic for magics sake that doesnt even have a purpose, thats just stupid, why waste your time on something that has no aim. if you simply want to annoy people, then congratulations, you've done it, get gone with you. if you're genuinely interested in anything pagan, then stay on the board (there are some knowledgable people posting here) surf the net, check the links that poet.i.d. sent you and ask more specific questions. oh, and remember the best way to learn is by doing, not by reading. thankyou and goodnight.

Klucky
March 31st, 2004, 03:05 PM
hmmm, im not trying to be a warmonger, but i disagree with pretty much all of you :).

1) the 'raison (reason) d' (of) etre (being)' of Wicca (or the reason of wicca's existence), as you put it Heathen Dawn, i would imagine would have to be defined by it's creator, so can you support that with a quote? besides, any reason behind the existence and purpose of wicca will be subjective. AND, on top of that, arcane one said nothing about wicca. as far as we know, he or she doesnt give a rats about the gods.

2) its pessmistic to assume that if a beginner is given a spell then it will either not work or, if it does work, then it will do harm. as much as i hate to perpetuate the stereotype, hundreds of groups of teenage girls with little to no knowledge and one spell get together each day at slumber parties and have a bit of fun. now, dont you think we would hear about it if all of these harmless dabblings ended up summoning beelzebub out of thin air? and there's no better way to learn by going out there and doing it, even if you do get it wrong and have to deal with the consequences/demons afterwards.

3) arcane one; if you want a spell, be specific and say what you want it to do. the one thing i object to is magic for magics sake that doesnt even have a purpose, thats just stupid, why waste your time on something that has no aim. if you simply want to annoy people, then congratulations, you've done it, get gone with you. if you're genuinely interested in anything pagan, then stay on the board (there are some knowledgable people posting here) surf the net, check the links that poet.i.d. sent you and ask more specific questions. oh, and remember the best way to learn is by doing, not by reading. thankyou and goodnight.

1. Can you support any other religion's being with a solid, factoral quote? But people still go on believing in the god/gods, right?

2. That's why we keep saying "wait it out" because we want to know more about Arcane. We don't want to see him/her hurt at all through the process. Nobody ever said he/she wasn't ready for it yet at all. We're all just cautious and worrysome people.

3. I agree that the best way to learn is to do it, but how are you going to know what you're learning if you don't read about it first? Everything starts with a basic step.

You're kind of insulting Arcane, in my opinion, on your third point. I mean, if I was fairly new here and saw that after asking a question, I'd be too confused and ticked to ever reply again. I don't know about the rest of you, but Arcane most certainly isn't annoying me. Everybody wants wisdom. To get wisdom, you must learn. To learn, you must ask questions.

-Klucky

The Arcane One
March 31st, 2004, 05:56 PM
I would like:

A. a mute spell (so I won't be disturbed when meditating)
B.A friend spell
C.a sleep spell

dragonspirit 69
March 31st, 2004, 10:27 PM
Before I answered this thread I bumped into another thread by Arcane One adn I can't remember what it was about but I remember that she/he had a poll on spells and the thread was about anything else. This made me wonder what their intention was. ( that and all they asked for was spells.) Arcane didn't say why or what kind they needed . It left me slightly uneasy and on guard.


Now to helping Arcane ....

The mute spell .. Do you want to mute your mind or other people ?? If it's your own mind I personally don't use a spell. I sit in a quiet place close my eyes , and imagine a light above my head . then I start my breathing long slow breaths breathing in the light feeling it pass through each part of my body one cell at a time. This usually calms my mind and gets me ready for doing ritual ar just calming myself after a rough day.

I don't have anything for a friend spell. I'm one of those people who makes friends easy.

As for a sleep spell ....Again I don't use a spell for this I just remodify my breathing tec. that I just discribed above. Starting with my toes I visualize them sleeping and working my way up. Sounds corny but by the time I hit abuot my chest stomach area I'm gone.


One thing I do want to say please don't look to spells to fix everyday problems like sleeping and the such. Sometimes a warm cup of milk with a hint of honey and nutmeg or cinn. will do magic all on it's own.

Take care.

xblue420x
April 1st, 2004, 02:41 AM
I would like:

A. a mute spell (so I won't be disturbed when meditating)
B.A friend spell
C.a sleep spell
First I wanna say that I like what dragon posted, breathing techniques do help alot. Breathing and visualization helps alot when your trying to quiet the mind. If your looking for a mute spell to quiet other people I really doubt that youll find one-unless its a spell to drive the 'loud' people out of your life(which I don't think you want because of the 2nd spell your looking for)
A friend spell....In this case if I were you I'd sit down and think of the qualities I'm looking for in a friend. If you just sit down and write a spell and say something like"I want more friends to come to me" you might be bombarded by really negative people, people you dont get along with and you could end up with more enemies than friends or people you don't like and can't get rid of. So, what do you want in a friend? Do you have these qualities? Doing a spell to make YOU more attractive and interesting to the right kind of people could be very effective in this situation. I know theres a few things like this in some books I have lying around, I'll try to dig them up and get those to you.
Again, dragons reply could be very useful depending on your situation. Whats wrong with your sleep? Are you an insomniac? Do you have trouble getting to sleep or staying asleep? Do you know why its happening-do you think about alot of stuff before you go to sleep, or wake up from dreams or noise in the middle of the night? Quieting the mind will help alot if its trying to fall asleep thats the problem. I used to be an insomniac and I started using breathing techniques like the ones dragon suggested and now I still have trouble getting to sleep(it will take a couple of hours) but at least I sleep. And I don't wake up in the night as often. I haven't tried any actual spells for this, but making a dream pillow might work for you. I'd say just in case you havent already, go see doctors about it, if its not a physical health problem it could have something to do with stress or anxiety or a number of other things-go to a psychologist and see if they can help you. Try everyday remedies for it if you haven't already, warm milk, honey, cheese before you go to sleep makes you tired-so does turkey-make some cheese and turkey sandwhiches heh Herbal supplements could help, so could alternative therapies like massage, accupressure/puncture, things like that. If nothing I've suggested so far helps and your spells are uneffective, go to one of the sleep institutes and see what they can do for you, they can figure out exactly whats keeping you up after one night(sometimes)
Hope this helps.



2) its pessmistic to assume that if a beginner is given a spell then it will either not work or, if it does work, then it will do harm. as much as i hate to perpetuate the stereotype, hundreds of groups of teenage girls with little to no knowledge and one spell get together each day at slumber parties and have a bit of fun. now, dont you think we would hear about it if all of these harmless dabblings ended up summoning beelzebub out of thin air? and there's no better way to learn by going out there and doing it, even if you do get it wrong and have to deal with the consequences/demons afterwards.
First of all I'm not assuming anything, I know ALOT of people who have gone through horrible experiences that could have been avoided if someone would have sent some words of caution their way. And when I said dangerous I wasn't suggesting that Arcane is going to do a spell to gain friends and end up summoning beelzebub or any other demon or devil out of thin air. Like I said, I know people whove had really terrible things happen to them because they didn't know what they were doing. I've even read posts on this board where people have talked about the repercussions of their mistakes with magical work and how they've spent most of their lives trying to get their lives back to a 'normal' and healthy level. I do think that actually doing something is the best way to learn, but if you don't know about what your doing it could end up in an aweful way. Anyone could get into a car and start to drive, but if you don't first learn the laws and rules of driving you could be handcuffed in the back of a cop car before you even get out of your neighborhood or end up in an accident because you didn't know which person at a 4way stop had the right away.
I'm not being pessimistic, I'm being realistic.


if you simply want to annoy people, then congratulations, you've done it, get gone with you.
Not to be rude or disrespectful, but I wasn't even a little bit annoyed until I read your post. And IMHO no matter what someone says on this board you shouldn't say 'get gone with you' thats just mean. Thats the job of other people and I'm sure even they wouldn't assume that Arcane is annoying people and tell him/her to get out.(to all you guys if its not my place to say this let me know and I'll edit my post).
That said I'll make my way out and try to find those spells I was talking about.
If I've offended anyone it certainly was not my intention and I apologize.
BB,
Blue

alesay
April 1st, 2004, 03:50 AM
I think everyone else touched on everything i would have said...
My little tidbit~
Reading never does anyone any harm. Most say a "witches" best friend is information. As for doing spells, i was always told by my priestess, to try it out (the problem) by any way shape and form, before refering to the magicks... Most problems can be solved like Dragon and Blue agreed, by simple every day things we can do ourselves. Don't get me wrong, spells are fun. But i think everyones first initial concern was that people unaware of our beliefs or our practice, automatically assume that spells can be done anytime, to any one... And we all know that's not the case... I fully understand everyones question asking how long Arcane had been in the "biz" on the grounds that then they'd know how to reply and help him to their best ability. We have a lot of people on different levels of "Learning and living" We all need a base to understand where an individual is coming from, before we can post to help them.
In no way, shape or form was i offended by Arcanes questions... Klucky is right, Questions is a must!

*here endeth the lesson*
(name that buffy ep! HAHA)

dr_zeus440
April 1st, 2004, 08:17 AM
1. Can you support any other religion's being with a solid, factoral quote? But people still go on believing in the god/gods, right?

I merely wanted HD to justify his reasoning that there is only one reason for the existence of wicca, and the quote i would be asking for would be one from its creator, gardner, where he outlines why he brought together information and published it, effectively becoming the father figure for wicca. i did not mean to question the validity of wicca if thats what you thought. but in HD's post, he said that the reason of wiccas existence was for the worship of the gods. i asked for a quote because i dont believe that wicca has one single definable reason for existence. and even then, the end of that paragraph still stands, i haven't read around in arcane's other posts, but in this thread, he/she hasnt said anything about wicca.


2. That's why we keep saying "wait it out" because we want to know more about Arcane. We don't want to see him/her hurt at all through the process. Nobody ever said he/she wasn't ready for it yet at all. We're all just cautious and worrysome people.

one of my fundamental belief's is that people should be responsible for their own actions and should deal with the consequences of their own actions. therefore, to my mind, if arcane wants a spell, and i feel like giving him/her one and see no reason that my giving this spell could be detrimental to me or mine or, some of the time, the human race at large, then i'd be more than willing to supply one. if i felt that the spell was dangerous enough to merit a warning being handed out with it, then i would do so. but i would not hand out a warning without a spell, because that propagates fear, fear of magic, and i think that there has been far too much of that fear around in the past. to me, magic is not inclined to either good or evil, and unless you use it for evil, then it wont manifest as anything evil. to me, thats just logic. and then, if one does use it for evil, then one deserves any consequences as the powers that be may see fit to bestow upon one.


3. I agree that the best way to learn is to do it, but how are you going to know what you're learning if you don't read about it first? Everything starts with a basic step.

i assumed that when he/she asked for spells that he/she would have some kind of aim to them. to ask for a spell without an aim in mind is like asking a walmart clerk for a something.


You're kind of insulting Arcane, in my opinion, on your third point. I mean, if I was fairly new here and saw that after asking a question, I'd be too confused and ticked to ever reply again. I don't know about the rest of you, but Arcane most certainly isn't annoying me. Everybody wants wisdom. To get wisdom, you must learn. To learn, you must ask questions.

i would agree with you to the extent of admitting that i was brusque with arcane one, but i meant no insult. to paraphrase, i told him/her questions need to be specific to get the answers you want (which, i hope you all would agree, is good advice for anyone across any number of topics), that doing spells for the purpose of doing spells is useless, a spell is a means to an end, if you have no end in mind then a spell is for nothing, and is merely wasted time and energy. then, i said that if he wanted to annoy people (because, in my experience, the best way to get a reaction in a pagan forum or chat is to ask for a spell or a reading, and then watch and laugh as everyone else tries to assess your moral character by what you choose to tell them) then he had already provoked that response ("are you ready to do them ??". three posts before anyone (read; i) asked arcane what they wanted the spell for. if you dont intend to give someone a spell, then why even reply to their thread? to suggest to someone that theyre not ready to do a spell, or that they have to meet your standards, is an imposition of your value system on to someone else, and im sorry if that offends anyone, but that is what i believe. if you do not intend to give someone a solution when they ask for one, please, do not change their question to "do you think i am ready to be given a spell?" and then answer it instead. [i understand that this bracket is long and confusing, so basically, if you think that you can get an accurate idea of a persons character through a message board and that is what you will base your decision to give them a spell or not on, then dont reply, because you cannot learn anything about a person through the internet that they do not choose to tell you themselves. this is not meant for anyone in particular, but for everyone.]) and that his continued mocking, if indeed thats what it was, wasnt wanted here, thus accounting for the "get gone with you" comment. i have no patience for people who go to pagan forums to ask for spells simply to evoke a reaction. and this statement was only meant for arcane if indeed that was why he was here, because i started the sentence with the word 'if'. the rest of my third point is advice that i would give to anyone on a pagan path, especially the doing-over-reading method of learning, because imo theres too many people saying "read", and not enough people saying "do". and nowhere do i instruct arcane to NOT ask questions, merely to be more specific.

xblue420x; at the time of writing my previous post, no-one had given arcane any spells, only warnings. so at that point, there was not much chance of him/her getting hurt, imo.

4) none of this bantering is answering arcane's question, so if anyone wants to continue this, please do, just through private message hey.

5) arcane one; try a mixture of the practical and the magical, hell, even the practical on its own will help:

mute spell; when meditating, go somewhere where the door has a lock on it (toilet meditation :D), or go for a walk to a park or somewhere where you will be away from people who will disturb you. or meditate when other people are out of the house. sometimes, instead of turning to magic, just adapt yourself to the situation you find yourself in, or wait until the situation changes. magically, get a piece of sheeps/lambs wool, i would use the unrefined type, and tie it to your doorknob with something.

friend spell; be generous with your time, your food, and your conversation. try and stay on top of personal hygiene, wash your hair, brush your teeth, look after your skin etc. if youre having problems making friends, try new places of making friends. if you are having problems making friends, then magic isnt necessarily the best place to turn to. try and understand why this could be happening and act to change it. a bad reputation is not a permanent thing. if you want magic, use the stones citrine or carnelian. i would recommend the former over the latter.

sleep spell; get up earlier and be more active in your days. take up some form of physical exercise, even if its just walking for an hour or so in the evenings. if its a fear of the dark, buy a nightlight. if you have insomnia, try and find any mental reason that may be keeping you up. with magic, there are quite a few gemstones that help with sleep, the easiest to get is amethyst, imo, blue lace agate does a better job. or choose an oil that calms you (lavendar is in atm) and put a drop or two on a tissue to keep near your nose in your bed.

once again, sorry about the long post :D, and i didnt mean any offence or insult to anyone previously.

RubyRose
April 1st, 2004, 08:37 AM
I would like:

A. a mute spell (so I won't be disturbed when meditating)
B.A friend spell
C.a sleep spell

Now, while I've looked at this thread once or twice, I've refraimed from responding, simply because I didn't think I had anything to add, that hadn't been said already.

In my personal experience, you cannot make people like you. Believe me, I've tried, and this was without the aid of magick.
As for sleep, I being one of the sleep deprived. I would love a good spell to help me sleep, but it's not going to happen. The best thing out is to follow a physicians advice. Exercise, eat well, and get into a good and organised sleep pattern. And if that doesn't work, resort to sleeping pills, under your doctors advice of course.

As as for being interrupted during meditation. Isn't the point of meditation to drown out the outside world. To become completely oblivious to the world around you. If that is correct then why would you need a spell.

And as for Spellworking basics. I too am a newbie, and the spells I've written myself, although I feel that they haven't been successful, at least I tried, and in doing so, felt somewhat more connected than I did, from using a spell from somebody else.

alesay
April 1st, 2004, 01:39 PM
Ok, Zeus, those are great suggestions...
Arcane~ Speaking of stones... I find that Rose Quartz is really good at calming me down before i go to sleep...

As for the spell issue, maybe i'm just slightly confused, or maybe i'm not. But i think the conflict of the topic is people identifying "Spells" because there have been no spells mentioned here... Only techniques, or things that will help you get what you want... There is no "boil boil, toil and trouble" but rather humanly answers to the problems... Which, IMHO is what this particular situation needs. Yes practice makes perfect, but you need a situation to which a spell is required... These three things, again, imho, aren't that situation...

Excellent suggestions everyone, And i hope that everyone has answered your Questions Arcane ;) Good luck!

AlwaysMe
April 2nd, 2004, 12:38 AM
I am new at this also, However everytime I have have made my own spell it has hapeened or it has severly back fired because I did not have the right intention.. Magik comes from within. It is not something that is taught it something you are born with.

alesay
April 2nd, 2004, 01:45 AM
Always~ Though some will disagree, i agree with you whole heartedly... But also, you gotta know, for your own protection, etticute... For lack of a better word! HAHA You gotta know what you're doing, before you have a spell, with proper intent... But you're right... Gotta have the heart ;)

Dextra
April 2nd, 2004, 03:55 AM
1. Research
2. Research
3. Research

Let's face it, none of us more experienced folk wouldn't have gotten to the points we are at today without a lot of reading, research, and trial and error. Arcane One, I'm sure you're eager to learn, but you need to start with the basics. Try to start with meditation and energy work. Research the gods and goddesses that you feel akin to. Learn to cast a circle, calling quarters, and the like. Then look into spell structure. Like everyone else has said, your own spells are the best ones. I know that's a really bare-bones explanation, but IMO, if you're going to do something, do it well, and do it right.

spirit wind
April 5th, 2004, 02:32 AM
http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21568

try this thread. it's about making and casting spells,
it's pretty good!!!