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Sequoia
July 25th, 2001, 07:37 AM
Today I went to the Sonoma County Fair. I've been going my whole life. But this time was different for two reasons:
one: I've never worn my pentical in public before, and
two: I've never gotten sick on a ride before.

This is related, trust me. Here's what happened (it's actually kinda funny 8O ):

I had been waiting in line for a ride, when I met this young woman. She was about 17 I think, so around my age. We were talking, and this little girl next to us's mother came up, and kinda squinted at my necklace, and asked me what it was. And I said "oh, it's a pentacle. I'm Pagan." she practically hissed, and got this "O.O omg I can't belive this is really happening!" look on her face, but she tried to smile and said "ooh. . . " and dragged her kid away. And the young woman I was talking to looked at me and went "you're pagan?" and I nodded and she started asking me all these different questions. . she thought Pagan meant "I don't belive in anything", so I tried to explain that it's really a catch-all phrase, and that I had very personal beliefs, and that I belived in more than one god, but that should she ever run into another pagan she should probably disreguard my beliefs and listen to them, because it's a very personal thing, trying to find your own path. She looked at me seriously and said 'aren't you afraid of going to hell?" and I said to her "I don't belive in hell. Then again, I don't really belive in heaven either. I think we just. . .go on." it was the best way I could put it at the time. And she just kind of stared at me. She asked me what gods I believed in and I said "all of them." which confused the heck out of her (my belief is that any god anyone ever believed in existed, whether in some "higher" form, or just inside the worshipers, and as such they all deserve respect.) and she was like "well, how can you have a close relationship with a god? I mean, I belive in Jesus and I have a relationship with him." and I said "I pray mostly to Jupiter and Bast, but not JUST them. I feel like they're simply higher beings" and she was SO confused. . . hehe the poor thing. And then she asked me "well, when you pray, do they answer back?" and I grinned and said "yep." and she just stared at me in shock :D

At any rate, during this discussion we headed over to the ride "Footloose" which is basically this hammer-shaped thing that you get spun upside down in. I had already gone on it and had a pretty darn good time. So when she asked if I wanted to come I said sure. We were both having a civilized convo, and I thought she would be a kewl person to have as a friend. So we got on (and the baka ride operater practically punched me in the gut trying to get the bar down on me -_-;; it's annoying being big, because they have to make sure the tiny people don't fall out, but it KILLS us bigger people), and the ride was going ok, and about halfway I felt sick. Now, let me state this. I do NOT get sick on rides. But for some reason, this time I did. I get the serious impression that the christain god was going "nnyaa" to me :confused: but at any rate I kinda ended up getting SICK (messy :eek: :( ), and she seemed to feel bad but I swear I kept getting the impression that I was getting a celestial joke played on me for my attempt to explain to her. I'm not sure how funny it was, but it was kinda ironic if you think about it like this:

Me: explains to christian some elements of my paganism, also mentioning that I think Jesus is sometimes regarded as another god too, and that I didn't belive in hell.
Her: debates with me holding to christian side
me and her: go on ride that didn't bug me before
me: gets horribly sick on the ride sitting next to the christian.
her: feels bad but has to go
me: went home after 3 rides (I paid for the $15 unlimited ride wristband :bad: ) with an incredibly bruised ego. Also swears she feels God going "hehe get my point?"

of course, it could've been Loki or any other mischivous, irony/joke-loving god(dess).

Anyhow, I just thought that was kinda funny if you think about it in one way. Sure, coincidences could happen. . . but I don't belive in coincidinces. hehe

~Puma Hime

Rævyn Cigány
July 25th, 2001, 07:52 AM
I said one god(dess), but not for the reason you think. I believe in One God and One Goddess who are two facets of the same almighty ONE...make any sense? I just happen to put different names to the same ONE deity.

BB

Rae )0(

Twig
July 25th, 2001, 10:47 AM
I personally belive that EVERTHING has "spirit". Even the rocks underfoot [in keeping w/druid tradition]. Allthough I pray to many God[esses], I feel they are ALL part of the One Great Spirit.

You aren't alone in the difficulty of verbalizing this concept to the uninitiated. Their preconcieved notions are hard to overcome at best!

Peace,
Twig
:elf:

Myst
July 25th, 2001, 11:36 AM
I wear a pentacle ring and necklace and they are rarely noticed. There's no point though in trying to explain in 10 words your entire religion and set of beliefs... usually if asked I just say it means I'm a nature lover (or "tree hugger")... then if they honestly want to know more they ask more, and if not... well how mad can you get at someone who says they hug trees?

I just don't feel the need to try to explain the wonderfulness of this great religion to every joe who asks "what that star is". Just my personal experience and opinion ;)

I find some people (and I don't mean you) tend to wear the pentacle or some sort of goth clothing or makeup then complain all the time that people are staring or asking them about it. I think these people are looking for attention - I mean that's the way society is and it's not good but wandering around in black clothing and piercings and white makeup aren't the best way to help people learn about Paganism...

bloodstone20
July 25th, 2001, 04:42 PM
Good point. I wear Celtic necklaces and stuff, so i don't get as many stares. I can't find any places that sell Pentacles, tho, so I am not sure if I would wear it if I could get one.

Mairwen
July 25th, 2001, 06:09 PM
I had to be a brat and vote "no". Why? Because my Craft has taught me not to believe, but to KNOW. And there's a huge difference.

Sequoia
July 25th, 2001, 08:13 PM
Mairwen- I love your response. Hehe that's actually something I kinda said to the girl I was talking to. I told her I just KNOW somehow that the other gods are there, and that other spirits are there. . . you should've seen her expression when I said I thought that everything could have a spirit. . . she's like "even the grass? *skeptical look*" and I said "yep. The grass, or that plushie toy in the booth, or the ride machine. . . anything."

yes, I'm finding out that it's not very easy, because people are VERY ready to belive that you're evil for being different, but they're hard to convince that you simply belive a different thing. And I mean, I don't DISbelieve that the christian god exists, he's just not the one I particularly worship. But I can see how that could be confusing hehe.

Before lately, I had worn this talisman with the pentacle on it (it has the five pointed star on one side and the six pointed star on the other, I usually wear it five pointed star out) under my clothes. But recently the cord to it broke and the only other thing I could find was this purple-ish tie string. . . now it's not string, it's made of silk or something, but I like the colour and for some reason it felt right to use that instead. And even though I normally wear it under my clothes, I just felt compelled to wear it up higher, closer to my throat. So now it's kinda obvious -_-; but it feels right there. Other than the pentical (and the necklace my boyfriend gave me hehe), I look like an average joe person.

the pic is (left) the necklace my boyfriend made and later gave to me (hehe which is it, a dagger or a goddess symbol? people can't decide on it 8O he meant it to be a dagger but so many people think it's a goddess symbol!) and (right) my talisman (the side people see). I don't know what the little characters mean, though. It was a gift from a friend/teacher of mine.

Have a good day everyone! hehe

~Puma Hime

Sephiroth
July 26th, 2001, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by bloodstone20
Good point. I wear Celtic necklaces and stuff, so i don't get as many stares. I can't find any places that sell Pentacles, tho, so I am not sure if I would wear it if I could get one.


go to www.wiccan.com thats were i got all mine from. i have a 5 pointed one, 6 pointed, 7 pointed, 8 pointed and a 9 pointed star

Andromeda
July 26th, 2001, 03:13 PM
I look everywhere for my pentacle.....
I finally found one in a little shop in the mall....and the one time I took it off I lost it....

:(

Myst
July 26th, 2001, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by bloodstone20
I can't find any places that sell Pentacles, tho, so I am not sure if I would wear it if I could get one.

I've found them in Magic Mountain (a popular store for hemp jewelry, clothing, candle holders, various novelties), Green Earth (another popular store [we have one in both big malls in the city] that sells candle holders, incense, jewelry, candles, photo frames, figurines, and garden accessories like gazing balls etc.), and then of course in the Mystic Bookshoppe here in London and Flashbacks out in St. Thomas, Ontario. There's also a magic store in Sarnia, one opening up in Woodstock (well technically there is one that is about herbs etc. and I think the owners are Pagan, and another that has a tea room with a psychic). Woodstock's a city of about 32,000 so it's not even big like the others.

Unfortunately, outside of Ontario, I'm no help :)

random
July 26th, 2001, 05:26 PM
I havnt gotten a solid pentacle to wear yet, but I plan to November 6. But, i do keep one I have drawn taped up in my locker. It was one of the first things that started their "questions"... the kids that were next to my locker got weirded out. they still are uneasy around me... a lot of people are.

WillowRaven,

I wear only black and white. though, i do not wear makeup... I only wear those colors because it is different from the majority, and I dont like to be involoved in the majority... I have been comsidered goth, and called it, but I don't take offense to it... and I don't want attention, and if I did, i have my ways...

I didn't vote because I dont know what I believe at the moment....

-christy-