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Tzaolunyin
April 21st, 2004, 05:16 PM
When I was in high school, I had frequent experiences I can only describe as "attacks" of images, as if I were watching events that were yet to happen from a third-person perspective. Quite frequently I was able to prevent those images from taking place, but sometimes I failed. The events I saw were always bad at best, and horrible at worst.

Eventually, I decided I didn't want to know anymore. I did my best to make it go away, and, thankfully, it did. But just recently, within the last week, it happened again. More intense than ever, even though some of the details couldn't possibly have been correct (other details I verified, and they were possible even though I didn't know it when the images came to me, but at least three of the details were relatively impossible).

I was thinking about it today, and I decided to bring two questions to the board.

(1) What is precognition? If I can prevent the images, and I know I have in the past for the person I saw being the center of events (although occasionally the events simply happened to a stranger when I warned my friends to take precautions), it can't be an immutable destiny. On the other hand, if destiny is not fixed, how could I see these images at all?

(2) I am at a point of conflict within myself. It is obviously a part of my nature to see these things, or else I wouldn't see them. My tradition emphasizes living in harmony with our inner natures, which implies that I must accept these things as part of that nature. But I really don't want to. I do not want to see these things happening. I do not want to feel responsible when I fail to prevent them from taking place. I do not want to be in the middle of my planning period and be interrupted by a barrage of barely-coherent snippets of a chain of events that leads inevitibly to a terrible conclusion. I do not know if it is moral or right for me to try and suppress it again, like I did when I was a teenager, but I really, really, really, really, really, really don't want it.

Any help or advice anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated!

Keith Dragon
April 21st, 2004, 05:54 PM
(1) What is precognition? If I can prevent the images, and I know I have in the past for the person I saw being the center of events (although occasionally the events simply happened to a stranger when I warned my friends to take precautions), it can't be an immutable destiny. On the other hand, if destiny is not fixed, how could I see these images at all?

First off, it as well as everything else in likeness I consider gifts. This is an ability we all possess, but like muscles in the body, precognition is a spiritual muscle that must be exercised. Also, as with all muscles, they store energy, both positive and negative. There is nothing to fear by it, but if you suppress it, spiritual pressure will build up within you spiritual body, and may cause problems down the road, and possibly become stronger than you can control.

The fact that you are experiencing it means that it is definitely a part of your destiny, but not your destiny itself. Destiny is not a set circumstance, but what you make of what the Universe offers you. This may merely be a step to something greater. But it is also something, that if you do decided to move forward in understanding it, you must commit to that path whole heartedly.

In precog, what is though of as happening, is that you are picking up on vibrations occuring in the space-time continuum. They are not what will happen, but what may happen if things continue along the path they are taking. I was always told that God only shows you aspects of the future that God does not want to happen.

(2) I am at a point of conflict within myself. It is obviously a part of my nature to see these things, or else I wouldn't see them. My tradition emphasizes living in harmony with our inner natures, which implies that I must accept these things as part of that nature. But I really don't want to. I do not want to see these things happening. I do not want to feel responsible when I fail to prevent them from taking place. I do not want to be in the middle of my planning period and be interrupted by a barrage of barely-coherent snippets of a chain of events that leads inevitibly to a terrible conclusion. I do not know if it is moral or right for me to try and suppress it again, like I did when I was a teenager, but I really, really, really, really, really, really don't want it.

First off, there is no incorrect path for you here. What ever way you decide to go will be the path you are supposed to take, so don't worry about making a wrong choice. You won't. However. The fact that they are happening is showing that that gift was given to you for a reason. And think of it as a gift. Energy normally is attracted to like circumstances. Negative to negative, positive to positive. The fact that you are trying to suppress it, out of fear, anger, or whatever, is generating negative energy, so it will react by showing negative things. In a positive light, you may get different visions.

But if you do suppress it, you may be missing out on a great lesson, which normally the subconsicous finds a way to manifest it into your life whether your consciousness wants it or not. Your subconscious thinks it is something you need to do.

If you embrace it, you will be able to learn to control it, and in that way, you won't be harbouring negative energy, and it won't bother you as much. And it may open the doorway to other gifts.

Also, know that you are not responsible either way for answering that call. Only if you want it. The Universe selects those for these gifts the Universe feels will make good use of them. But your Free Will has to make the decision to. The only judge is yourself.

May I ask, why do you not want it?

Tzaolunyin
April 22nd, 2004, 12:49 PM
May I ask, why do you not want it?

They're disturbing, they make me doubt my sanity, and most importantly, when I have them I suddenly feel like I have the responsibility to keep the event from taking place. I take my responsibilities seriously, and as such I generally prefer to be able to pick which responsibilties I accept and which I decline. I have no such choice in this arena. I have the vision, and the feeling of responsibility comes with it. It's especially frustrating for future events that, like the one most recently shown to me, I have absolutely no direct power to prevent. The failure to prevent it will be mine, and the guilt of having failed will eat at me just as it has in the past, even though I have no way to affect the outcome that I am currently aware of. Other than by telling the person depicted in the images what is going to happen to her. But because only insane people have visions, I have no reason why she should even believe me beyond just humoring me out of friendship.

Therefore, if the event occurs, it was my fault for not preventing it, because I knew in advance what was going to happen, even if I can't tell exactly when. So I'd rather not know, and not have feelings of blame and failure get in my way when attempting to comfort the victims of horrible events.

Shanti
April 22nd, 2004, 01:13 PM
I have it. I tried too, years ago, to make it go away. It didnt. I learned to live with it.
It can be a bother but sometimes it goes away for awhile and then I miss it.
In time it has become a part of me. I sometime see the future and I dont always like it because it can be and has been bad stuff.
I have never succeeded in altering the events but I have altered the outcome by telling people.
It hurts when the outcome doesnt change no matter what I do.
A shaman friend told me once,
" Just because you know it, it doesnt mean you are meant to change it. If you are meant to change it, you will. When your not, you wont."
I never have had any control over it. I see things when I see it and I dont when I dont. No Control what so ever.

Keith Dragon
April 22nd, 2004, 01:16 PM
They're disturbing, they make me doubt my sanity, and most importantly, when I have them I suddenly feel like I have the responsibility to keep the event from taking place.

I can see it being tough. I've lived with being an empath, and that was difficult, trying to decipher which were my true emotions and the one's I would pick up from the people around me. And like you, I didn't have a choice in the matter. I couldn't control them. I would be happy, than all of a sudden for no reason get feelings of anger and hate.

But working through them, I've come to understand that it is just a part of Nature, and I have no responsibility to those I'm picking emotions up from. I've also learned to filter it out so it doesn't effect me as much, but the experience has lead me to other amazing things, like astral projection.

Though this is still a difficult dilemma when faced with it. You feel out of control, however, it is still your choice to allow it to control you, or take control of it. You will not be judged for good or ill whatever you decide. Only do what feels right, that is what is important. Listen to intuition.

But because only insane people have visions,

Why do only insane people have visions? Maybe it's the insane people that DON'T have visions.

Therefore, if the event occurs, it was my fault for not preventing it, because I knew in advance what was going to happen,

This is always a heavy burden, we always from our heart want to help others, or prevent harm if we know it is going ot happen. But how do you think God feels, seeing us struggle learning our lessons, but unable to help for fear of interfereing with free will.

Just don't feel guilty about it, that is the illusion. It is still your choice. If you feel you a supposed to help, than help. If not, then don't.

It's always difficult to accept bad things happening, but they happen. We choose to let the experiences flow through us and learn, or attach to them.

The feel that I get for you is to not worry about any consequences, but experiement with the power. Test it, try to prove that it may just be something else. Understand it. I know this for sure, whatever you experience along this path will do nothing but help you in the long run, so I'd embrace it. But if you feel unprepared for it, remember, most people are unprepared when faced with this type of situation. Fighting it will only intensify it.

Dragon

Nighthawk
April 22nd, 2004, 01:19 PM
Keith is doing it so well... thank you. Shanti you too... I will just say... Do not fight it, learn to use it. I rely on mine... totally, and it has saved me quite a few times. It is good, and a gift....

catphrodite
April 22nd, 2004, 01:21 PM
perhaps it is not up to you to prevent it at all, rather you are given fair warning and you must prepare in
a different way. meaning that you prepare for the after-effects of the event ahead of time, that you are
there to help heal, or help with the transition after the cards have fallen. you are then not taken by
surprise, and you are to be strong for the ones who did not know or see as you did.

we know ahead of time that the sun will rise and fall as days go by, that seasons turn and barren winter
follows the bounty of summer. you don't sit around feeling guilty that you can't change it, you prepare for
it, yes?

personally, I'd rather see the tragedy before hand so as not to be completely blown away when it does
happen. I speak these words from experience much similar to yours.

li'l_red_one
April 29th, 2004, 12:13 PM
i use to get really intense visions(as i call them) but a few years ago i sort of supressed them they never went away completly. but now that im older i think i can handel them a bit better than i could when i was five. i just dont know how to get them back like i used to.
now i normaly get them in my sleep.but the ones that i do get when im awke are not clear or as intense as i would like them to be. i need my vision to be like they use to be because i have my gift 4 a reason im ment to see what to most is not seen.so i was wondering if anybody can give me any tips, to help me?

with love and blessings li'l_red_one

keeley
February 11th, 2005, 11:46 AM
I'm in the same boat as li'l red one. Except I suppressed at about 12 years old when the other kids started figured things out and now I am in the dark and need a lot of help. I need to start from skratch ( I'm a blank slate weak visions occasionly).

teh_fae
February 13th, 2005, 06:02 AM
I have precognition also. I can remember being young and having incidents where I saw things days, weeks, or even months before they happened. It's actually happened more frequently in the past few years. I don't really mind being precognitive, but it gets confusing sometimes, at least it does to me. My last experience with it was 3 weeks ago, it happened 2 times in one week, but nothing since then.

I don't know why it shuts off like that. It'll happen several times and then it just stops for awhile. I've had my experiences with it while I was awake and I've also had them in dreams. And I can usually tell when I've had a precognitive dreams, it just feels different then just any normal dream someone has.