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folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 12:54 AM
For years the persimmon tree has been popping up in dreams and visualizations and several times it has insisted on being in one of my paintings. It's the chakra symbol on top o' me lil ol' punkin head, of all things. It's driving me nuts! The only thing I've been able to find out is that the word persimmon is Algonquin. Anybody got any ideas?
rantnraven
February 20th, 2001, 02:29 AM
I would have to ask of the color of the trees and the nature in which they present themselves. Are there more then one? The Persimmon tree is a very delicate form that bares fruit but once a year (Nov - Dec). Should weather conditions be wrong, the plant will bare scrappy fruit that can be very bitter. Think of this relatively.
I should also add that the tree is very stout and full but, can become fragile without proper handling.
mol
February 20th, 2001, 02:36 AM
Perhaps an oppurtunity is to arise that if not taken advantage of...could actually make things a bit unpleasent?
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 02:50 AM
Sometimes it's only one tree but usually it's a grove of them. It's a wild persimmon, not the domesticated garden variety. The tree is leafless and the fruit is ripe but still on the tree. It's not a big stout tree, it's small but not puny looking. It's healthy.
There were wild persimmons where I grew up. The fruit doesn't ripen until it's been frosted on and the leaves have already fallen off, as I recall. They taste best if you let them ripen on the tree - at which point they fall off by themselves. Does that help?
rantnraven
February 20th, 2001, 03:11 AM
Relative!?! That is the question.
I now not of your gender or orientation. To be honest, I have little knowledge of that particular tree - where's a Druid when you need one.
The Goddess is of fertility. The God is active in the belly now (e.g. Imbolc or, Imbolg if you're Celtic). Wether it be one solitary tree or, a grove, they would most likely act the same in mass, as one like that of a Coven. That is the way of the Goddess and can reflect on us as humans. Look inward - the answer is there.
I would like to see these paintings of which you have spoken.
Blessed Be,
Thoma
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 03:39 AM
I keep getting cut off.
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 03:40 AM
I keep getting cut off. We're having storms. Back tomorrow.
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by rantnraven
Relative!?! That is the question.
I now not of your gender or orientation. To be honest, I have little knowledge of that particular tree - where's a Druid when you need one.
The Goddess is of fertility. The God is active in the belly now (e.g. Imbolc or, Imbolg if you're Celtic). Wether it be one solitary tree or, a grove, they would most likely act the same in mass, as one like that of a Coven. That is the way of the Goddess and can reflect on us as humans. Look inward - the answer is there.
I would like to see these paintings of which you have spoken.
Blessed Be,
Thoma
NOW LOOK WHAT YOU DID> YOU GOT ME PREGNANT!!!! Guess you know you're gonna have to marry me now. :)
Actually, what you're saying does start to make some sense of this. I don't know much about Druidry either but it wouldn't surprise me if that's what it's all about. It might also make sense of another recurring dream - do druids wear long white flowing garb?
rantnraven
February 20th, 2001, 12:51 PM
That would be a first in the cyber-world. And I didn't even feel like smoking after.
I have given more thought to the symbol of the tree. Do you have any children? Often plants and such could symbolize bonding with a child or sibling - or the need thereof.
T
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by rantnraven
That would be a first in the cyber-world. And I didn't even feel like smoking after.
I have given more thought to the symbol of the tree. Do you have any children? Often plants and such could symbolize bonding with a child or sibling - or the need thereof.
T
Hey- no fair reading my mind! I was thinking more along the lines of the persimmon tree being a bonding of my Irish/Native American ancestry. I don't know if the Irish side of the family were ever into Druidry but they definately believed in signs, haints, cycles of the moon etc. Never saw any of them dancing around an oak tree or anything though. Pretty sure the Native American side wasn't Algonquin, either (too far North).
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 02:34 PM
Sorry about that remark about the oak tree. I meant no disrespect. Sometimes my two-finger typing skills get me in trouble; before I can get it all on paper, I lose my train of .........
rantnraven
February 20th, 2001, 04:03 PM
I did not interpret any disrespect in your commentary. I am eclectic in practice - Wicca, Shaman, Druid. I've been known to dance around a few tree in my time.
No need for apologies. No Harm.
-T
folkwitch
February 20th, 2001, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by rantnraven
I did not interpret any disrespect in your commentary. I am eclectic in practice - Wicca, Shaman, Druid. I've been known to dance around a few tree in my time.
No need for apologies. No Harm.
-T
I may have to eat those words anyway. My Dad had a tree trimming business and plenty of times I saw him dancing around in the branches of an oak tree. how's THAT for symbolism?
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