Magick and Emotions

[Dolphin's Eye]

Here is something I still don't get at all-

Emotion is part of life, it lets you know when you want something, if you want it enough you'll do more to have it, thus emotion helps your cause, right? Emotion to some level at Spells and Magick in general can also help, it can bring on more energy, more focus, and generally help the spell.

Yet too much wishing, too much hoping, can simply intterupt and disturb the Spell and energies from being carried out! Many Wiccans think that once you've done a spell you should forget about it, put it off your mind so you won't be able to question yourself and your spell, and I've done many spells, and keeping them completly off my mind is hard to impossible, especially when it's important (and I feel strongly about it).
And there is also hope, you can always hope, even wish for the wildest things to happen (not much chance for it to come true though :-), but how come these impossible things have a tendency to happen right when you LOSE all hope, think "that's it, I've lost" and believe that in all your heart? It happens to me all the time!

Love to hear your comments on that one :-)

Blessed Be!

[Rick]

...my good friend, Debbie (who is the wisest magical person I know) says you have to "give it over" to the Universe/Goddess/Spirit/etc. It's rather against my nature, too, but on the really important things, that's what you seem to have to do.

Believe & receive;
Doubt, & do without.

[Ldymorgan]

I think there is a FINE line between INTENT and EMOTIONS that one needs to understand to begin with. ITs true they go hand and hand, but there is a difference between the two.

My mother taught me about wishing, and my uncle tells me time and time again, "Be careful what you wish for becasue you just might get it" So I am very weary of what I wish for. I examine the wish from all angles and then decide if I still want "it".

These "impossible" things happen when you lose all hope, simply because its a sign to NOT lose hope. NEVER lose hope. Know that there is ALWAYS a possiblity for things to become.

LM

[Persephone]

Emotions help create the energy needed to make something happen. Maybe you feel like you lose hope when you've put all your emotions into it and subconciously realize that all you can do is wait and see; or subconciously know that it's going to happen.

I've experience the same thing, as soon as I stop hoping and start accepting, whatever I was hoping for happens. I used to be very good at just having faith that what I needed would be provided; the strength of the faith replaced any emotions; and I was never let down. It doesn't happen as much any more, but that could be because my circumstances aren't as dire anymore.

[Mythrel]

I believe emotion is just another form of energy. I think that if you put enough emotion into the ritual it will help tremendously.
If you flood the ritual with emotion I don't believe that it will hinder it, I think that your attachment to the spell after it is done is holding back the spell from doing what is intended...just my opinion

Ldymorgan you made a great point about being careful what you wish for...if you put enough energy into anything you can get what you wish for but for some reason it is never quite what you wanted....good warning Ldymorgan

Mythrel

[Dolphin's Eye]

Well I guess that's always the truble with Spells, you got what you wished for but sometimes you find out that I wasn't what you asked for at all or that you forgat something that interrupts that spell from being carried out.

This whole emotion thing is still a mess though, what is the point that you have to stop thinking about it and move on? And more importantly is HOW do you manage to do it? And besides, expecting something is fun too, to imagin it happening, but then as I said, the more I think about it the less chances there are it will happen... Pretty annoing coz I can't convince myself to lose hope.. I have to really lose it so stuff will happen :-)

[Swanspirit]

and one way to do it is with practice.....
you dont get ten years of experience in five :> or even seven .........
I used to say ..... everything I let go of had claw marks on it, because I couldnt let go of anything, and sometimes it still isnt isnt easy. I am not talking about letting go of things like defending yourself , or even letting go of hope, or helping the energy along, but practice letting go of the outcome .... or the final result . Somtimes I visualise the hands of the Goddess, and I place what ever it is gently but firmly in her hands and let her lift into the universe to gain what ever momentum it will , and to join with the energy to bring about what
I had worked for. I think of it as clay hardening, or something cooking in the oven, or plant growing .... anything that you feel is right for you :>
HUGS MY DEAR FRIEND
Stay SAFE
Swannie

[IOLO]

...it's a lot like the laws of quantum physics.....the observer can affect the outcome of the action....

If you keep watching over a spell you WILL change the outcome because of the very act of doing that...more often than not it is the reason that spells don't work for most people

As Her Swanship says, it's like baking in an oven...if you keep opening the oven-door the cake will fall....or the meat will be undercooked....

Merry Be!!

IOLO

[Myst]

My thoughts as a non Wiccan...

I've been taught that you aren't supposed to think about the magick once you've cast it in that you aren't supposed to worry about it or go over what you did. What's done is done, and the outcome will be right even if it's not the outcome you thought you wanted. To have intent is to take responsibility and accept your wishes and to take responsibility that they will come true. Once you've taken that responsibility and set things in motion be confident, and it won't be hard to stop thinking about whether you did it right.

Just my beliefs :)

[sherry]

I personally think this is where journals or BOS come in handy because you can get the emotions down to be a focal point BEFORE you start.
I have to have emotions in check before I start any kind of practice. I too have often heard that phrase "be careful what you wish for , you just might get it"

[Dolphin's Eye]

You are changing the subject....

It's still a bit more then "to forget about a spell" you are missing the point I did not ask soley about spells, but I don't wanna repeat myself, just remember that it is not about "magick- to forget about it" it is - "how to approach goals that are important to you, how to treat them (one way to treat them is to do magick)"? Still wanna answer the real question? Check the first message.

Oh, and you CAN look at a baking bread without opening the oven, and you do need to check stuff up at least a few times during the baking so here's the emotional balance for you, not to totally forget about it, and yet, not to get obssed by it (easier said then done!!!!!!!!)

Blessed Be

[IOLO]

Sorry...I stand corrected. I guess I missed the point...as was said...and know not of what I am speaking. Excuse me.

Merry Be!!!

IOLO

[slvr_phoenix]

I think that in general, spells are supposed to be cast for the benefit of all or for the best outcome, not for a specific outcome of a specific person's benefit. And those spells can be hindered by personal desire for something.

Unbalanced spells to specifically take something though, are fueled by personal desire.

It really all depends on the spell, and upon just what you actually desire.

That aside though, I believe why we often get what we need just when we've about lost hope or accepted that we won't get it is that it's about if we're actually ready for it, if we've actually learned from being in our situation.

We often desire things that we don't need, or we desire the wrong things. It's when we accept that this is the way things are, and we grow from it as we start looking to make actual changes in our life instead of just wishing for someone/thing else to make things all better, THAT'S when we've learned what we needed to learn and THAT'S when the powers that be decide that they can stop holding out on us because our lesson has been learned.

I believe something like that anyway. :) Sometimes what we need isn't a solution, but just a little personal growth.

[Swanspirit]

one way to approach things on a concrete level is to do exactly that .. SET GOALS.
I do that at the begining of a project, the beginning of the year ..... or anytime Ineed to clarify where I am going...... what I am doing or what I need to be doing .
So sit down and write a list of pros and cons
or reasons for and reasons against , and see what you have come up with.
Writing things on paper engages the left brain , and helps you to organise what you are thinking desiring etc....
There is also a magical effect ....... the list of goals I make at the beginning of the year , even tho I might put it in a drawer and forget about it,, sometimes ....somehow the things on that list just happen to get done :>
HUGS Sweetie
Swannie