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Maeglin Ancalime
May 10th, 2004, 10:28 PM

xblue420x
May 11th, 2004, 12:49 AM
death???

Nighthawk
May 12th, 2004, 12:27 PM
So, then death would be a passive path, yes?? As opposed to an active one.

Shanti
May 12th, 2004, 12:31 PM
It is an inevable path for all.

Tzhebee
May 12th, 2004, 02:29 PM
I find it ironic that the very second you are born, you begin dying.

Caliburn
May 12th, 2004, 02:51 PM
I find it ironic that the very second you are born, you begin dying.
I'm 14 years dead. :hehehehe:

xblue420x
May 14th, 2004, 12:21 AM
It is an inevable path for all.
hmm i think that death would be a phase instead of a path.. its like dusk..or dawn..taking you from life to after life..and birth would be the phase taking you from after life(or maybe in this case you could call it before life) to life...or maybe it would be an event since both birth and death usually last for seconds or hours instead of years like life.
i dont really like the thought that your dying from the day your born...it takes away any meaning in your life. why grow if your dying? why think? why live?
maybe i should have thought about this for awhile before i started typing..heh

rain_fallen_tears
May 14th, 2004, 12:40 AM
Excessively informative Maeglin, your hands must be cramped from all that typing!!!:D Not knowing what the question is, or if there is a question at all...but I believe in reincarnation and a place of happiness(I call it the Summerlands, as most of my craft is based around Wicca...)I think you reincarnate as much as you wish or learn all you can from this world...than you can take your place permanently amoung your gods...and become an observer....and a teacher of your own, as far as that may be from the 'truth' that is what I believe...:)

Druchii
May 14th, 2004, 12:41 AM
I do not fear it.

asamananara
May 14th, 2004, 12:50 AM
I find it ironic that the very second you are born, you begin dying.
How so? Life is a negentropic process, self-organizing and
progressive; Growth, whether physical, spiritual, or perceptual,
gains momentum from conception onward. We can quantify life,
being an exponential increase, whereas death is simply cessation.
There is no "dying". Even the wasting of the body, the deterioration
of the mind, and the degragation of the spirit which accompanies
old age and illness is a life-journey. Death is a singular point,
with no dimension; death cannot be plotted as a curve. We may "die",
but we are never "dying".

punxzen
May 14th, 2004, 01:06 AM
How so? Life is a negentropic process, self-organizing and
progressive; Growth, whether physical, spiritual, or perceptual,
gains momentum from conception onward. We can quantify life,
being an exponential increase, whereas death is simply cessation.
There is no "dying". Even the wasting of the body, the deterioration
of the mind, and the degragation of the spirit which accompanies
old age and illness is a life-journey. Death is a singular point,
with no dimension; death cannot be plotted as a curve. We may "die",
but we are never "dying".

agreed in a sense, but i think that its a matter of correlations and semantics really. death is whatever you make of it, like anything else.

Boo Radley
May 14th, 2004, 03:12 AM
Death, like birth, is a doorway though which each souls passes many times in both directions. We come onto this mortal coil and enter into what we call 'life.' We come in naked, wet, and frightened. I have worked in geriatric care for many years and my experience indicates that a good number of us go out in much the same way. It is a subject that is frought with uncertainty.

On a very personal level let me share this: a couple of years ago I had an allergic reaction to a medication and went into anaphalactyc shock. The long and the short of it is I nearly died. Now I consider myself to be a pretty spiritual guy, a real man of faith, but when I was crawling around on the floor struggling for every breath and feeling like my skin was trying to crawl off my bones, all spiritual faith and esoteric knowledge went flying out the window. Uncertainty and fear came charging in to fill the void. Going back out the door is evidently no more pleasant than entering through it at birth! Naked, wet, and frightened.

It is the stuff that happens in the in between that matters. And standing at that threshold yourself, or holding the hand of another while he pases through it, and then cleaning up the corpse afterward; well, these are things that permanently alter ones priorities, but I'm just ramblin' so we'll let it go for now.

Boo

xblue420x
May 14th, 2004, 08:24 PM
Death, like birth, is a doorway though which each souls passes many times in both directions. We come onto this mortal coil and enter into what we call 'life.' We come in naked, wet, and frightened.
Do you remember your birth? I don't remember mine..in fact I've never known anyone who has..
I can imagine that during birth a baby would be frightened, but at the same time I imagine that a baby would be joyfull and excitied, interested and eager..
Its hard to tell, I know every baby I've seen right after birth when they first open their eyes looks more curious than afraid.. Its hard to say. Anyways I'm sorry for ranting and getting off topic at that hehe Just some thoughts

9-2-2
May 14th, 2004, 08:46 PM
I've only begun studying death, after ignoring it during the ten years it's surrounded me. I'm exploring all sorts of things - I recently signed up for a Necromancy class online, even (no trashy necronomicon involved) though I wasn't accepted (disappointing; as far as I know, it might not have started yet!).

I consider myself on the path of death. I'm learning what my connection is to it, to entropy, to the quick, perpetual loss around myself. My only resources are a mish-mash of different philosophies, theories, experiences, and other stuff. I'd like to meet a few fellow magicians on this path, too. :)

Tsuchimaru
May 14th, 2004, 09:24 PM
I don't see why people fear death.....I personally don't.....come to think of it, I can't wait. :)

Boo Radley
May 15th, 2004, 01:15 AM
My perspective on death, as you can surely tell from the previous post, is not real coherent. Because of the very nature of my profesion I am surrounded by it. Sometimes I feel like the grim reaper is looking over my shoulder laughing as I go about my daily duties. Ohter times I have breathed a sigh of relief when a patient dies. That is because I have seen people with cancer and other fatal illnesses with enough morphine in them that they should be comatose, but they're still screaming in agony. I've seen others who just went to sleep and left us quietly in the night. And then I've seen still others linger on the threshold between life and death for days and weeks on end. There really is no set pattern. The most recent death on my watch was a cancer patient who died of a sudden heart attack!

I personally beleive that there are a number of variables involved in the way people die. Unfinished business is a big factor. I can't count the number of times a resident has lingered for days, and then some long lost cousin from the east coast pays a visit and the person dies right after the relative leaves! Of course karma is a major factor also. Anyway, it is a good topic, but not a popular one!

I often tell young people in my profession that in geriatric care our job is to stand at the threashold between life and death and make crossing that threshold a lot more comfortable and a little less frightening than it would be without us.
Boo

AnaRQy
May 15th, 2004, 01:41 AM
Death death death...

cheddarsox
May 17th, 2004, 05:52 AM
Death....one of the great motivations in my life. Knowing I will one day die motivates me to get off my bum and LIVE. I realize that this moment is not forever, and acknowledge the cycling and flow of all things. I recognize that death is a veil I cannot see beyond, perhaps and end, at the very least, a threshold. Sometimes I fear it, because I feel I will be sad to leave the things I know behind.

I have had a near death experience. That was a trip!

triple_D
May 19th, 2004, 02:16 AM
DEATH:
Any one who sees through the eyes of death becomes ageless deathless and immortal
or
your body dies but your spirit lives on

9-2-2
May 21st, 2004, 11:13 PM
Every time someone attempts to bottle the concept of the death mysteries into 1 - 3 sentences, I become greatly amused... not at the person, but the attempt itself. :p

Who is on the path of studying death? Do you study the myths and mysteries behind it, learn from life experience, or gain from philosophy? And why are you studying death? This thread seems to be floating, so let's get some more active discussion started. :)

I have not yet studied a whole lot from mythology, but most of my knowledge came from the numerous deaths that surrounded me since I was a child. I have read on man's psychological views and reactions of types of death throughout all history, and I have recently dived into the more active and mystical aspect of the death mysteries and practices. I'm on this path because I feel I have been cold-shouldering the loss that's surrounded me, and in order to understand why it is, I must stop ignoring it, and dive head-first.