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Kaylara
February 22nd, 2001, 07:20 PM
In this post I am going to talk about some basic precautions that I have learned either through my own mistakes, or from my friends.

1.) Make sure that you are not mentally or physically tired when you go into trance, to avoid falling asleep.

2.) Decide upon a purpose for the trance before hand.

3.) Make sure you feel comfortable in the environment you are in.

4.) I suggest that you put up a shield before trance work. This is of course, personal perogative, but I highly suggest it to help protect you from malevolent entities that may want to take advantage of you being in the trance state.

5.) When using mirrors for trance, I have read that it is not wise to stare directly into your own eyes, as this can cause eye strain. For me it depends on what my intuition says when I start the trance. The same goes for using candles for trance. You can hurt your eyes if you stare a candle flame for too long, so use your own judgement and common sense.

6.) Don't put a time limit on your trance, because time becomes somewhat irrelevant while entranced. Kinda like being in a magick circle.

7.) Do not let your trance get out of control. If you are worried, or have a bad feeling about what happens, bring yourself out of it fast.

That's it for now....

Next to come, techniques, and getting pulled into trance involuntarily.

Blessed Be!
Kaylara

Lynnaea
February 23rd, 2001, 08:45 PM
sounds like the same precautions for astral traveling, maybe? Hmmm, I said I haven't done trance, is astral travel a trance?

Kaylara
February 24th, 2001, 08:33 PM
Yes they are pretty much the same precautions as Astral Projection, but the difference is during Astral Projection, you leave your body. During trance, you are staying in your body. Trance also helps to divine things that are hidden. In Astral Projection, ones conscious mind remains, Trance allows you to be conscious while moving between the mystical and mental realms. (This is my recollection) I'm sure that someone else could explain this much better than I. It actually is kinda hard for me to explain the differences between the two simply because these are things that words do not readily express.

Feel free to jump in, and thanks for asking such a great question!

BB,
Kaylara

Moondragon
February 25th, 2001, 05:03 AM
Ok I agree with most of what kaylara said thier is some definite precautions to take an easy way to start.. believe me children (expecially me!!) used this It is not hard for anyone to do, my advice is start small and work up. If you have done visualization you will find this technique pretty easy..

Find a quiet spot

Even you breathing, slow it down
(if you know how center yourself it helps with deeper trances)

fine a fairly bare wall solid colors work best.

Then start to contentrate on what your target is usually for this case like a bad habit you want to get rid of..
Metally picture yourself going through the process of getting th goal or on the end result.

When you feel ready slowly drift out of the trance. then some people have thier goal written on a peice of paper which is now burned or sealed in some ritual way.

Do this for a week with the same goal and write down your feelings and impressions afterwards.


Common feelings or Physical affects of trancing:

When you enter a trance alot of people routinely expirence double vision when entering trace.

Mild disorentation and lightheadedness if surfaceing from trance quickly. Some people expirence headaches when interupted and ubruptly coming out of trance.

Drowsyness or sense of fatigue afterwards.

A disconnection with the body similar to the feeling of floating.


What technically is the trance state?

I feel this is an important thing to state it helps to metally visualize what you mind is doing.....
There are five states of conciousness named scientifically as Alpha, Beta, Delta, and Theta.

These states are easily identified from the others by the normal operation of everyones body.

Alpha- Is the Trance state, also considered your brains actions during daydreaming. you are able to be physically awake but have similar weighted feeling as if you were sleeping in this state.

Beta-Normal Operation state, walking around interacting with others .

Delta- Sleep state you usally are not aware of what is around you. you are in full sleep.

Theta- In between of Alpha and delta, State between awareness and sleep, very weighted, not very concious you might know what is around you but it is very difficult to move. Some trance masters are able to enter this realm in a trance.

It is also important to note that Everyone will naturally enter ALL of these states in a normal days function. Trancing is simply the mastery of being able to control When and Why and What for you are entering Alpha State.

This is a very Basic Overview of the states of consiousness and trancing a great book for this is Ravenwolfs "to light a sacred Flame", of course books on trancework, and dun dun dun........Psycology books the latter really goes into detail of these states and is definately a recomended read or someone considering trancing.

eaglewolf
February 25th, 2001, 11:43 PM
Ummm, Kaylara?

Getting a little behind in our work are we, LOL!?!

Just kidn'... you are doing a great job so far, don't give up on us yet :D.

~ew

mol
March 3rd, 2001, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by eaglewolf
Ummm, Kaylara?

Getting a little behind in our work are we, LOL!?!

Just kidn'... you are doing a great job so far, don't give up on us yet :D.

~ew

Looks like she did. ;)

Shaman0325
March 3rd, 2001, 11:32 PM
Hello Kaylara.....Should same rules apply to Lucid Dreaming ?

Kaylara
March 5th, 2001, 12:20 PM
Lucid Dreaming is in a different state of mind from trance work, but I think most of the same precautions apply. Lucid dreaming is special, you are wandering in your own unconscious, and for the most part can control everything that happens. Trance is not dreaming, as you are awake and conscious at the inception of any visions that you may have. So, I guess like everything else I have stated here, use your own discression.

Kaylara

Kaylara
March 5th, 2001, 12:28 PM
Haven't given up, just got distracted for a while.
There doesn't seem to be very much interest, and not much participation, so I put it on a back burner for a little while... I will be starting up again shortly...

BB,
Kaylara

Moondragon
March 5th, 2001, 05:05 PM
To me trancing is very similar to a fascination, Astral traveling isn't really that similar to me. I try to explain it as with trancing you go within- astral you go outwards.

Selenia
March 5th, 2001, 05:50 PM
I've heard that one should use a cord around one's waist just for cautions sake, kind of like Hansel and Gretel's crumbs!

Kaylara
March 5th, 2001, 09:28 PM
Moondragon~
That's the same way I look at it. Lucid dreaming is similar to trance because it is inwards, astral projection is definately outwards.

Selenia~
I haven't heard that, but it may be worth a try! Thanks for the input!

Kaylara

Flar's Freyja
June 26th, 2002, 10:26 PM
Bump

Mithrea
June 27th, 2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Selenia
I've heard that one should use a cord around one's waist just for cautions sake, kind of like Hansel and Gretel's crumbs!

Am I missing something? I don't understand . . . just tie it around your waist or tie it to something?

MistOfTheSea86
June 27th, 2002, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by Kaylara
Lucid Dreaming is in a different state of mind from trance work, but I think most of the same precautions apply. Lucid dreaming is special, you are wandering in your own unconscious, and for the most part can control everything that happens. Trance is not dreaming, as you are awake and conscious at the inception of any visions that you may have. So, I guess like everything else I have stated here, use your own discression.

Kaylara

I had a dream once, it wasn't entirely lucid but it had one moment of lucidity. I knew what was happening, and when I tried to take advantage of it I couldn't. It was like a block or something. What I am thinking it is, is that I didn't start the dream lucid and eventually forgot that it was the dream. Is this possible?

Flar's Freyja
June 27th, 2002, 06:06 AM
Originally posted by Mithrea


Am I missing something? I don't understand . . . just tie it around your waist or tie it to something?

:) I bumped this for someone who brought up trancework in another thread......kind of reminds me of Poltergeist....

This is a pretty old thread and I don't know if the author of that quote is still around to answer your question :rolleyes:

Haedis
June 27th, 2002, 11:25 AM
What I've heard regarding the cord thing is that it can be used in astral travel as both a way to get back to your body and as something connected to the mundane realm so you are still somewhat aware of whats going on (you arent so absorbed that you cant deal with any problem that could arise). I would imagine you could have the cord tied around yourself, though everytime I've heard people mention the idea the cord was more like a part of them that came through the stomach, like an umbilical cord.
I think the whole point is its connecting your body to the part of you thats on the astral, so I guess it would have to be connected to you rather than something inanimate.

Flar's Freyja
June 27th, 2002, 04:38 PM
Thanks, Haedis. That makes sense to me.

Flar's Freyja
October 9th, 2002, 11:13 PM
Bump

Gently Gazing Eyes
March 15th, 2003, 11:16 AM
Kaylara linked to this thread, so I had to read it. :)

Kaylara
April 21st, 2004, 10:28 PM
Bump.

Calyx
April 22nd, 2004, 09:18 PM
Kay,
The way this is described, it seems to me that I go into trance almost everytime I meditate.

This also makes sense to me, because I often have visions. Some seem to have been what was, some seem to be what will be, and some seem pretty random. I hope we can get more participation, because I am curious to hear others thoughts on this. :)

Kaylara
April 23rd, 2004, 12:17 AM
I hope so too, this thread way buried years ago. :)

Bec_W
September 23rd, 2004, 03:06 AM
Okay, I know this is a really, really old thread but rather then start a new one on the same topic I figured I'd reply here and see if I got any nibbles :)

This may come out sounding hokey, but here it is. Would you be able to use trancework to contact people from different periods in time? Something a friend of mine mentioned made me curious about it and wondering if it was even possible.