Cat queening, In trouble!!!

[Shanti]

Our cat is queening. She has 3 live babies but now is in trouble please send energy that the remaining babies are born and she and them survive. The clock is against us!!!! Please send energy, Please.

I will post again as soon as I can!

[Aine of the Fae]

Energy sent.

[Lunacie]

Energy on the way for mama kitty and babies all.

[Isil Darkmoon]

Energy sent; also linked to this thread in critter chat

[Earthy]

Oh no.enegy sent for safe delivery of the babies,and strength for the mother.

[Aurin]

::Reiki ON :: ... Best of luck to you, the mama and the babies!

[Shanti]

We just got done talking to the vet Our regular is on emergancy. The closest one we are stuck dealing with is in anouther town. Thats not helping the nerves here. If another kit is not born in exactly 1 hr and 15 minutes, the cat goes to the vet and the kittens will prob be lost and then we worrie about saving mom.

She hasnt presented a kit since 9am and now it is 12:45. She has had no active labor and you can easily feel remaining kits.

We are so scared.

[Muireannach]

OMG! I hope it all works out okay. Getting worried here too....

[Black RiverWolf]

Energy and streangth sent for momma and her kits

[Aurin]

:hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: :hugz: a thousand times over.

[Nighthawk]

Ummm, energy...love..I hope it turns out ok...

[Shanti]

Thank you everyone. This is so horrible just waiting and watching the clock knowing the odds are dropping. I feel so helpless. Its awful.

less than an hour to go. :(

[Shanti]

I am trying to pre-occupy myself here, I feel like going nuts and crying. She is still bleeding a little, no contractions. Babies not moving.

To try to think about the good. We have 2 orange tabby boys and 1 female dark baby. Their very tiny but ok.

[Ravenna Angellin]

Sending energy right away! I hope it's not too late!

~ Ravenna Angelline

[David]

I send my hopes as well. And my sympathy to your worry and fears.

[Isil Darkmoon]

IF there's no active labor, it's quite likely all she needs is an inejction to get it started again and she'll be fine and the kits may survive as well. Hours of hard, straining labor with no kits is a lot more dire situation than contrations ceasing. It is possible that some cats will have batches of live kittens as much as 24 hours apart. They usually stop after 2 or 3, and resume at their leisure. This is especially common in small and young queens, and your is both. As long as she seems fairly comfortable and relaxed, I doubt she's in immeidate danger. If she's acting like she's in pain or very restless that is more of a problem. Best of wishes to you and her and the kits

[Lunacie]

IF there's no active labor, it's quite likely all she needs is an inejction to get it started again and she'll be fine and the kits may survive as well. Hours of hard, straining labor with no kits is a lot more dire situation than contrations ceasing. It is possible that some cats will have batches of live kittens as much as 24 hours apart. They usually stop after 2 or 3, and resume at their leisure. This is especially common in small and young queens, and your is both. As long as she seems fairly comfortable and relaxed, I doubt she's in immeidate danger. If she's acting like she's in pain or very restless that is more of a problem. Best of wishes to you and her and the kits
I thought I remembered hearing about that. I hope that is what's happening. Good thoughts sent.

[Llewyth]

She'll be okay, I too have heard that sometimes they take their darn time all coming out. Just let her take care of her little ones she has now, and the nipple stimulation will take effect. If not and you can't get to a vet, then you could try two drops of blue cohosh every hour. But I'd wait for tomorow morning like Isil mentionned.

[Ahautenites]

**nods about what Isil and Lunacie said**

Same here, but I didn't want to post it in case I was wrong....

**sends some birthing energy to the little queen**

[Earthy]

:hugz: sent Shanti for your nerves,i really hope the babies and mom will be fine.

[samiaminsane]

:awwman: Sending all my energy to you, mama and the little ones....

[Lunacie]

I did some quick research with Google and here's what I found:

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/breeding.html (http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/breeding.html)


Delivery times will vary. Shorthair cats and cats having slim heads, such as Siamese, may complete delivery in one to two hours. Domestic body type cats (having large, round heads) generally require longer delivery times. Persian and other domestic body type kittens tend to be very large and have sizable heads that make delivery more difficult. It is not unusual for Persians to rest an hour or more between each kitten. Rarely, a cat may deliver one or two kittens then have labor stop for as long as twenty-four hours before the remainder of the litter is borne. However, if labor does not resume within a few hours after the delivery of the first kittens, examination by a veterinarian is advised. If labor is interrupted for twenty-four hours or more, veterinary assistance should definitely be obtained.



http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=2593 (http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=2593)

When To Call Your Veterinarian

You should call your veterinarian for assistance in the following instances:

Your cat has been pregnant for over 70 days.
Stage I labor has gone on for 24 hours without producing a kitten.
Steady strong contractions have continued for over 1 hour without producing a kitten.
Prolonged resting phase continues over 4 hours when there are more kittens to be delivered.
There is a foul smelling vaginal discharge.
Mother-to-be has excessive vomiting or is extremely lethargic.

[Shanti]

She is going to the vet. My SIL is on her way now to pick her up. I'll post when I know more. The cats still bleeding and one kit can be thouroughly felt.

Clock has expired!

[Shanti]

I did some quick research with Google and here's what I found:

http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/breeding.html (http://www.sniksnak.com/cathealth/breeding.html)


Delivery times will vary. Shorthair cats and cats having slim heads, such as Siamese, may complete delivery in one to two hours. Domestic body type cats (having large, round heads) generally require longer delivery times. Persian and other domestic body type kittens tend to be very large and have sizable heads that make delivery more difficult. It is not unusual for Persians to rest an hour or more between each kitten. Rarely, a cat may deliver one or two kittens then have labor stop for as long as twenty-four hours before the remainder of the litter is borne. However, if labor does not resume within a few hours after the delivery of the first kittens, examination by a veterinarian is advised. If labor is interrupted for twenty-four hours or more, veterinary assistance should definitely be obtained.



http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=2593 (http://petplace.netscape.com/articles/artShow.asp?artID=2593)

When To Call Your Veterinarian

You should call your veterinarian for assistance in the following instances:

Your cat has been pregnant for over 70 days.
Stage I labor has gone on for 24 hours without producing a kitten.
Steady strong contractions have continued for over 1 hour without producing a kitten.
Prolonged resting phase continues over 4 hours when there are more kittens to be delivered.
There is a foul smelling vaginal discharge.
Mother-to-be has excessive vomiting or is extremely lethargic.
I have been in contact with the vet since labor began at 6 am this morning.
This was a highrisk pg.
It just doesnt help much even when you have been prepared for something to go wrong.
It hurts a lot.

[Shanti]

Isil, thank you for all the support and kind words. It means very much to me at this time. ~hugs~ I appreiciate the time you have taken to PM me. You have been a great support.

[Isil Darkmoon]

You're more than welcome, Shanti. Let me know if there's anything else I can do, and please keep us posted--good news or bad.

[Shanti]

My SIL left. Its a 25 mile trip to the vet. All I can do is wait by the phone. Hell.

The babies are ok and with me.

[Nighthawk]

I am sorry..... wish I knew anything about this...

[Smackthecricket]

Energey for your kittys and mama kitty.Hope they are all safe! I myself have a very small cat and she had a bach of 4 kittins and had alot of trouble birthing them..... but every thing took its time and they were all in good health...

[Shanti]

The thing that made the vet worrie was the fact that she never stopped bleeding. Once that clock ran out, he felt its time to intervene. My nerves should couldnt handle much more. Everytime I checked her and found blood, my heart sank deeper. Plus she wouldnt take water, milk, or nothing nor would she get up. She didnt even get up when I moved the babies away and they called her. The vet and I didnt like that either. She hasnt even been to her litter box since 5 am this morning. She just layed there. From 6 am, she just layed there except for the 3 births. The 3 she did have were hard for her. She had one and worked hard for it. She pushed for 30 minutes. Than she rested for and hour and had the next 2, 5 minutes apart. She cried in pain after the 3rd baby came out. I didnt like that. Then everything stopped. The baby you can feel real good is in frount of her hip on the right side and never moved. I hoped that in that long time span of waiting that that baby would of moved further down, but it didnt nor was their any activity with that baby.
My brain said this was going to happen. Those little signs were popping up. But what can you do? I wish I could of done something. I just hope with all my heart that at least mom comes back from the vet. The desisions are now in my SIL's hands.

And the waiting for news goes on. :(

[Smackthecricket]

Well let us all know what goes on in the mean time take good care

[Hope]

((hugs)) and calm -- and may the outcome be good

love
hope

[Shanti]

While I am waiting for news, here is a pic of the 3 we got.

[Earthy]

Oh,they are so lovely.:)
I hope they're mom will be back safely.

[Llewyth]

Oh dear! Giant boost of light for the kitty family! :(

[Old Witch]

Waiting for news.........
color me concerned........oops ....and of course, energy sent............

[Lunacie]

I have been in contact with the vet since labor began at 6 am this morning.
This was a highrisk pg.
It just doesnt help much even when you have been prepared for something to go wrong.
It hurts a lot.
You're right, just because you're prepared for something to go wrong doesn't make it hurt any less when it does.

Because you shared this with us here some of us learned something about cats and labor today. Also because you shared you and the kitties got lots of energy and support. I hope the energy will help the mama kitty so she can come home and take care of the little ones that already made it. And I send energy for you to replace that which has been used up in worry and fear. :hugz:

[morrigen]

Sorry I'm late on this one....energy sent for Mamma and her kittens. Keep us updated...

And *hugs* for you, for being such a caring fur-mommy.

[djmixon]

Blessings and energy sent. . .from me and my cats who are helping me type. . .

Keep the babies warm and safe. . .may mommy and sibs be home soon

[Pesha]

As a cat grandmother, I send healing and love to your cat and her kittens. Please let us know how it goes.

BB
DS.

[Shanti]

Up date.

My SIL told the vet no x-rays or c-section. She was only willing to spend 100.00.
The vet checked mom cat. He gave her the shot of hormons and an antibody. The vet said he thinks that the kit may be gone. The vet says she may or may not be able to finish. She may have more than one in her. Hard to tell whats going on with out an x-ray. He sent her home but nothings happening. She has light contractions once in a while. She still is bleeding, which isnt good. Now its up to her. My SIL had a cut off limit of 100 dollars and the physical and shots were 60 dolloars. I dont have enough money to do anymore than I have through this whole thing. I already shelled out all I had for her care, and she's not even my cat and yet I still love her like she is.

My MIL who was the cause of all this had the guts to say she wanted the female kitten we have. I laughed. I was like, first of all, we only have one and it was promised to my six yr old, who has been through this hole thing with mom cat, and I wouldnt let my MIL have a kitten even if it wasnt promised!!! I dont think so!!! I couldnt believe that she could let this happen to this cat and then want a kitten!!!!!

All the kittens have homes already. 2 are staying with me and one is going to a neighbor.

So now I wait some more and keep my fingers crossed. I hope it all turns out ok. I will post again when something happens. Thank you all for your support.

[djmixon]

Okay. . .it has been about 30 minutes now. . .how is she?

[Shanti]

No change. She did go pee!!! first time in 12 hours. Thats all for now.

[Lunacie]

My impression was that there is one (possibly two but I don't think so) babies left inside, but not living, which is part of the problem with finishing the delivery. I'm sending Reiki energy for mama kitty to finish the delivery and be well enough to care for herself and the three babies that made it. Is she trying to let the little ones nurse?

[Shanti]

My impression was that there is one (possibly two but I don't think so) babies left inside, but not living, which is part of the problem with finishing the delivery. I'm sending Reiki energy for mama kitty to finish the delivery and be well enough to care for herself and the three babies that made it. Is she trying to let the little ones nurse? The vet confimed one maby more kits, probably dead.He didnt feel or hear any evidence of live babies. He cant give a count without an x-ray. The babies are nursing fine. Moms uncomfortable so she is moving quite a bit but when the babies loose tit, they find it again with no problem.

The bleeding is suppose to of stopped but hasnt. It slowed down but still a drip here and there. The vet gave her the anti-body shot so infection doesnt come into play to.

What sucks is I'm broke, my SIL (its technically her cat) is wealthy but cheap. That sucks. As she said, "I'm not forking out a bunch of money for a farm cat." At least she gave the shots a try, I guess.

Its just ironic. I forked out a bunch of money I didnt have for a cat thats not mine but I'm the only one who even bothered to give a sh&t. Sorry. My nerves are shot, my heart is broke and I have a killer headache.

And evryone wonders why I wont let the in laws have a kitten. Hell I staked my claim there. The mom might not be mine but I would be damed if I would let any of them claim a kit after all this. Bad enough my MIL tried!
I'm just rabbling and venting a little. I got to go check on mom now.

[Lunacie]

And I used to think I had in-law troubles. :goodgrief Sheesh.

[Hope]

(((hugs)))

love
hope

[Boogins]

Shanti, I'm so sorry I was later for this--but the kitten still may come! We had one mama who had two kittens one day--and one three days later! All were fine.

Here's hoping everything goes well for you and your queen and babies. :hugz: Beauftiful babies too!

[Felidae]

Oh Shanti I am so sorry that I was so late in all this! All my hopes and energy to you, mama cat, and the kits!!!

[Shanti]

Shanti, I'm so sorry I was later for this--but the kitten still may come! We had one mama who had two kittens one day--and one three days later! All were fine.

Here's hoping everything goes well for you and your queen and babies. :hugz: Beauftiful babies too!
Oh boogins I so hope that will be the case. I'm hoping that if nothing happens before we go to bed, hopfully we will wake up to good news!!!

I have been killing time doing research for us and I already found low cost spay and neuter programs in my area that we qualify for! I dont want the 2 kittens we're keeping to ever have this happen to them or should I say to her nor do I want the little boy to contribute to the population.

[Boogins]

I'll be waiting to hear, Shanti! Fingers crossed and candles lit. :hugz:

[Shanti]

No other births yet but mom did eat!!! Good sign. She only took a couple of bites but she did eat a little at least!!!

I just got done setting her up in a new area. We have a bedroom cloths cabinet with an open bottom that she likes to lay in. We set up a box in there for her and the kits because she couldnt stay on my bed.

I knew she was going to have them on my bed because she has practically been spending 24 hrs a day their for the last week. I prepared by putting a vinyl cover over the mattress and then a sheet. Good thing to do since she made a huge mess. But now she's safely tucked away and the bed is all clean again.

She still hasnt gone potty except the one pee in the 12 hr span. Maybe the little food she took will help get that moving again.

She seems to have pretty much stopped bleeding. She has a watery discharge with a pink hue to it. Its totally watery. I hope thats better. You can still feel the kit in the same place. Hope.

[djmixon]

I am glad to know she seems to be feeling better. . .hopefully she will pick back up and move the others soon after she gets some rest. . .

I remember how tired I was after birthing one, I can't imagine how exhausted I would be after birthing three and having more to go. . .

Poor baby. . .energies sent and candles still going. . .

[Llewyth]

Oh come on mommy cat! You can do it!

[djmixon]

progress report. . . . .

[Shanti]

She finished this morning, before the sun was up. Two. Nothing alive. I need some time. Gonna go consentrate on her and the 3 healthy babies. Thanks everyone. Moms doing a lot better now. She is eating like she hasnt in days and theres no discharge. And she seems fine now and is up and around. I'm glad its over. Just sad.

[Felidae]

So sorry to hear about the two kits, but relieved that mom is okay and had 3 healthy kits. Still sending energy for all of you.
:hugz:

[Llewyth]

Phew! I'm glad it's over too. At least she's ok and you're not stuck taking caring of tiny kittens without a mommy cat. And it's less homes to find for them too.

Why don't you tell your in laws, after the kits are grown up of course, that she ran out, got hit by a car or something. Then you could find her a loving home instead of with weirdos. All right, I know it's lying but in this case, who would it hurt?

[Boogins]

Oh, Shanti, I'm sorry, but at least the mommy is alive to take care of three wee ones. Energy to you and the fuzzy family. :hugz:

[Hope]

(((hugs))) and comfort

love
hope

[Wascally Wabbit]

Good luck kitty!

[HorseCrow]

(((Energy sent for kitty)))

[djmixon]

I am so glad she was able to finish. . .and I am sorry for the two kits that didn't make it. Hopefully she is doing okay with the loss. . .sometimes they look for the missing kits and may get depressed.

Aas for the out-law. . . Tell her the family is so attached that you can't bear to give them up. . .especially after losing two. . . Perhaps she can go to the shelter and pick out a kitten. . .

[morrigen]

I'm glad to hear Mommy-cat made it through...and I'm sorry for the loss of the 2 babies.


I agree with a few others here...those nutter-in-laws of yours don't deserve such a valiant, brave little cat. Is there some way she could stay with you,or go to someone else?

:hugz: for being so good to her...I'm glad you're both ok. :)

[boerbabe]

I just saw this thread, and read all 7 pages.

My comments on the $100. limit are that reality says if the cat needs asistance, you have room to insert one well lubricated finger, loop your finger around the head, and pull the kitten out. If that can't be done, you can wait, attempt to restart labor with hormones, or do a c-section. No other real options.

The bleeding and sudden end yo labor made me wonder if she hadn't ruptured or tore her uterus, which would make it impossible to continue contractions.

But I am glad she got through it ok, and delivered three live healthy kittens. I know you can't really tell because there's nothing to compare them to in the photo, but those three look really big. I don't think I've ever seen ours under 4 days of age push themselves up like yours are doing either.

[Hope]

smiles i thought they looked big and healthy too :)


hope mom is still doing well

love
hope

[Lunacie]

Thanks for letting us know that momma kitty is doing better. Whatever the reason, the last two just weren't meant to be here at this time. Sad, but sometimes how it works out. Energy sent to Shanti to recharge her psychic batteries after expending so much energy in worry and concern.

[Shanti]

The babies are doing great. They are strong and stocky, especially with full little bellys! I measured them and they are 4 in long. The last two that didnt make it were like 2/3 that size, from what I could see thay didnt look right at all. Mom 'took care of them'. Instinct to keep things clean. I didnt interfere with her instincts, she has them for a reason.

I'm better and thank you to everyone. I feel sad but that shall pass in time.

2 friends came over today to let me know that they found homes for any kittens that are left over. They didnt know she had the kittens yet, I only told a few people, and I laughed because for a change, thats not a problem since they have homes already!! And here I was worried that I'd have more kits than homes and I ended up with more homes than kits! Thats a nice thing to happen. :)

[GaiaDea]

I got here late, but I'm sending energy to that truly brave mommy cat, and to you as well. I think you ought to plead illness on mommy cat's behalf, and keep her (and get her spayed, as further kits may be too much for her to live through).

I'm glad you let her take care of the littles that didn't make it, as that energy returned to her is exactly what she needs, and it keeps her from searching for missing kits. That was a wise thing to do, even though I am sure it was hard to let her do what was needed.

Truly, see if you can find a way to keep mama as well as the two kits. I'm sure they would all be happier with you.

Blessings, and joy to you on the safe arrival of three beautiful kits, and a surviving mama!

[Maurigan]

I got here late, but I'm sending energy to that truly brave mommy cat, and to you as well. I think you ought to plead illness on mommy cat's behalf, and keep her (and get her spayed, as further kits may be too much for her to live through).

I'm glad you let her take care of the littles that didn't make it, as that energy returned to her is exactly what she needs, and it keeps her from searching for missing kits. That was a wise thing to do, even though I am sure it was hard to let her do what was needed.

Truly, see if you can find a way to keep mama as well as the two kits. I'm sure they would all be happier with you.

Blessings, and joy to you on the safe arrival of three beautiful kits, and a surviving mama!

I agree with all the above!

I have not been able to get online to find out what was happening with your little queen but I was sending energy anyway.

Poor little girl has had quite an ordeal hasn't she, and so have you from the sound of things, I am glad it's over and she is making a good recovery.

Losing two of the babies may be a blessing in disguise as she may not have been strong enough to raise more than three.

the photo is lovely, they look strong and healthy. maybe you can post more pics as they grow, heh?

hugs and blessings to you and your kitties.

[Shanti]

Phew! I'm glad it's over too. At least she's ok and you're not stuck taking caring of tiny kittens without a mommy cat. And it's less homes to find for them too.

Why don't you tell your in laws, after the kits are grown up of course, that she ran out, got hit by a car or something. Then you could find her a loving home instead of with weirdos. All right, I know it's lying but in this case, who would it hurt?
Lying would hurt. I have a 3(almost 4) yr old and a 6 yr old. I f I was to do that I would either have to tell my kids what I am up to and tell them to lie to grandma and auntie or I would have to try to sneek, hide and make up more lies so my kids dont catch on, which is creating a big mess!

Lying would be very wrong and possably hurtful.

My MIL asked me to get mom spayed on my low cost spay qualifications. I would have to be the owner of the cat and I am not. I told my MIL that I cant lie to get the ca6t spayed and my SIL, who is wealthy (100k plus per yr) already agreed to get the cat spaeyed before she leaves here.

I also explained that the low cost spay and neuter program demands that all shots and vet care are done prior to getting the low cost spay/nueter done. The programs are not for people who cant afford basic vet care, they are there to assist financially for those who could use a little help to prevent further breeding and keep the over population in better status. This mom never had any vet care so all that would have to be provided first. So my SIL would still be paying out.

My 2 kittys will have all their vet care and their low cost spay/nueter done all by the stadards reguired. They are my kits so I will be responsible for them but I wont lie for my SIL to save her, well to do butt, a couple of bucks!


Speaking of my SIL, she is presently trying to get her Boston Terrier bred. She barrowed her neighbors male for stud. The neighbor warned her that the dog is a fence climber and to never leave him unattended in a fenced yard, even if the fence is 6 ft. tall!!!!

Well the 2 dogs were not getting it together so my SIL had the dumb idea to take the dogs to my MIL's house for a change of scenery!!!!! (My MIL is breeding Cockers and has a bitch ready for whelping any day now). Anyhow my SIL put both dogs in the fenced yr. (A 4 foot tall fence). Everyone went out and left the 2 dogs totally alone at the house, outside in the yard!!!!
Gee, guess what happened when they came back, hours later? The male dog was gone!!!! Duh. She was warned to not leave him in a fenced in yard!!!!! They lost my SIL's neighbors dog!!!!!

I just dont believe this. My MIL said she wouldnt breed her cockers anymore because she cant take care of the house or dogs. And yet she is doing it again!!! And my SIL is now trying to breed her Boston Terrier, even though she doesnt like pets because they dirty the house. And these A-holes cant even be responsible for someone elses dog!!!!! They didnt even bother to go looking for the dog. They just called us and asked if we think the neighbor would be happy getting 400 dollars to replace the dog! I said some people may not be able to be bought. Not everyone can just replace a pet!

If karma comes around, I hope theirs moves in quick.

My SO and I talked last night about trying to buy mama cat. We have 2 plus months to work on my In laws brains. Meanwhile we can save up all the money we need for all the cats.

[Pesha]

Shanti love, I am sorry that two were lost. But glad the mummy is ok. As for the nutter inlaws.....we have that problem here too.....just ask them nicely to find a good home for a shelter cat. And then pray for the poor cat.

BB
DS.

[Llewyth]

Good thinking Shanti! I like that alternative better too! I hate lying as well, but sometimes, like this one, it`s tempting.

[Shanti]

The 2 kittens we are keeping have got names!!!

My daughters female is Luna.
My sons male is Moon.

All are doing well. While we save money and work on our 'buy the cat plan', we have let it be known that mom will stay with the kittens for a min of 3 months to best be able to have well adjusted healthy kittens. Mom is so awsome. Since the first day we brought her here, she has slept in our room and doesnt wake us a night. She is active all day. I am hoping she teaches her kittens to be mostly quiet and resting at night and active during the day. They all are in our room. The nestbox is only 4 ft from our bed. Plus mom is soooo clean with the litter box!!! I want the kits to learn from her. She is such a great cat that if her babies learn from her, they should be great cats too. I know my kids dont want to give mom back. They are attached. I am not telling the kids that we are going to try to buy her because if it dont work, I dont want them heart broke anymore than nessesary. I just hope money will talk.
With all this dog breeding going on at my MIL and SIL's house, they dont have time to care about mom cat and I know it. They care about puppy profit!!! They do love money.

[djmixon]

did they ever find the dog?

[Shanti]

did they ever find the dog? Yeah they found it without ever having to tell the neighbor what happen.

Now they are blaming my SO for the dog getting out. He was over at my MIL house when my BIL and FIL brought the 2 dogs and put them in the yard. My SIL said my SO should of known about the dog climbing fences (how my SO would know, is beyond us) and he should of either stayed at the house when everyone left and baby sat or he should of reminded my FIL and BIL about the potential for escape. My SO laughed because he was over there to do welding in the garage and also he had no clue as to what was going on nor did he know anything about these dogs!!! Nobody ever told him the dogs were being locked in the yard and he didnt know nothing about this neighbor dog, let alone its escape abilities!!!

I am pissed. My SIL is looking for an escape goat because she wont admit thet she took on the responsibility of this stud dog and she screwed up!

My SO is always the punching bag and scape goat when one of the IL's mess up.

[Caffiend]

I am so glad that the mama and 3 babies are doing well. I hope you get to keep the mama too. I'll light a candle for you and the kits.

[Maurigan]

it's more than likely that the kittens will learn from mom that they don't get to go out at night, but that is no guarantee that they will sleep!

Cats are semi nocturnal, meaning that they like to be up and about after dark but not all night, they will sleep from around midnight until just before dawn usually, but the kittens will be very energetic and playful, definitely not as calm and quiet as their mom!

I have learned to sleep with kittens bouncing around the bedroom and only wake up if I hear a sound that means one of them is frightened, sick or in trouble of some sort, it's like when your own babies are very young and you can tell by the noises they make if something is wrong, and you wake up instantly, but other noises just don't 'get through' when you are sleeping.
At least they are with their mom so they won't want to sleep in your bed. :)

[Shanti]

it's more than likely that the kittens will learn from mom that they don't get to go out at night, but that is no guarantee that they will sleep!

Cats are semi nocturnal, meaning that they like to be up and about after dark but not all night, they will sleep from around midnight until just before dawn usually, but the kittens will be very energetic and playful, definitely not as calm and quiet as their mom!

I have learned to sleep with kittens bouncing around the bedroom and only wake up if I hear a sound that means one of them is frightened, sick or in trouble of some sort, it's like when your own babies are very young and you can tell by the noises they make if something is wrong, and you wake up instantly, but other noises just don't 'get through' when you are sleeping.
At least they are with their mom so they won't want to sleep in your bed. :) We already realise that the kittens will wake us up at night but we hope that once they are mature, they will be like mom and be content kicking it as we sleep. Our room is small and I dont leave nothing around for the cat to play with. Basically there isnt nothing to do but kick it for the night. And when its daytime, mom knows when we are opening the door a few minutes before the alarm goes off! As soon as the door is open, she runs and plays all over the house for the rest of the day. (except now she stops to tend the babies). She also knows bedtime and goes in our room a few minutes before we get there. Only time theres a lack of agreement is on the weekends.LOL She thinks we still are getting up at 4:30 am on weekends!!! I usually get up to let her out. Our bedroom door is a half door where I can open the top and leave the bottom half closed, so mom can jump out but if she needs to retreat from the dogs, she can come back in to peace! If I am not up and she is alone in the rest of the house with the dogs, they all try to play and dont know when its enough. 3 dogs is a little much for one cat so I always make sure she can get in my room and away from them!!

You know whats funny, mom will bug the dogs when they are sleeping on the couch. When they have had enough they will chase her and she runs straight for that 1/2 door and jumps over the top. The goofy dogs still dont get that they cant make a sudden stop on linomlium and have repeatingly slid right into the lower half of the door. Its so funny!! I think mom laughs on the other side!!!! Goofy dogs are gonna knock them selves out one day!! LOL

[djmixon]

At least they are with their mom so they won't want to sleep in your bed. :)
Unless you like little fuzzy furnaces sleeping on your chest/face/legs. . .etc. ..

Ours get banned from teh bedroom at night because they sleep until about 2am and then one of the moves and wakes teh others up and all heck breaks loose. . .

Funny, right now, they are all passed out after having rampaged through the laundry, dragging dirty socks and underwear off all over the house. . .

They were running around and would stop, crouch and then growl to get each other's attention. . .and then take off again.

Kitties are sooooo much fun. . .and such complete brainless wonders. . .

[Shanti]

I'm waiting for the night when I move under the covers and the kitten thinks my toe is fair game!!!! Ouch!! That night will come!! LOL I already warned my SO and he said, they dont eat much!!! LOL. It'll still smart like the dickens.

[Maurigan]

yup I know that game, they love it! Phil (SO) and I play games with kitties br moving our fingers very slowly under the duvet and scratching the bed with fingernails, their little ears point forward and they cock their heads to listen and then pounce! I"ve spent hour playing and giggling with kittens when I should have been sleeping. they just look so cute and funny. :smile:

[Hope]

am i the only one that thought -- hmm i wonder if the neighbor dog got the wrong dog in heat pregnant LOL

sorry just how my mind thinks :)

love
hope

[Shanti]

am i the only one that thought -- hmm i wonder if the neighbor dog got the wrong dog in heat pregnant LOL

sorry just how my mind thinks :)

love
hope LMAO!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:


Cant help but laugh at the thought and the look on my IL's faces if that happened!!!

[Wind_Nymph]

Oh poor thing! Energy Sent! What is it with cats being in trouble today? We just rescued a little kitten from the river this morning!

[djmixon]

am i the only one that thought -- hmm i wonder if the neighbor dog got the wrong dog in heat pregnant LOL

sorry just how my mind thinks :)

love
hope
No, I wondered the same thing. I just hope the female was not the one wrongly impregnanted. . .as that really messes up the value of teh dog and pups. . .

All I could think about was that Chihuahua that knocked up teh Doberman. . .egads!