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Inuus
July 4th, 2004, 01:24 PM
My Definition of Satanism
by Inuus Seti


Introduction

This article contains the specific definition of Satanism to one Satanist. This is very unique and does not necessarily reflect upon the definition of Satanism to other individual Satanists or groups. In other words, do not use this as your definition of Satanism. It is the definition of the author. It is best for you to write down your own views. Some Satanists may share some common views, but no two Satanists have the same views.

Deity

You may already know by now (if you read my previous articles or know me personally) that I believe in the actual paranormal/metaphysical existence of what Satanists generally call Satan. In my views he/she is the primal dark being who the source of illumination is. Satan is the first entity that ever questioned all things and recognized his/her own divinity. Satan is the ruler of the universe but manifests into the earth (this makes him/her not only supernatural, but cthonic). Since I view Satan to be a god/ess of living life and not fearing death; I also recognize him/her as the keeper of the circle of life. I recognize Satan to be male and female, but not both genders like a hermaphrodite. I do not limit myself to worshipping the Judeo-Christian face of Satan. I often look at Pagan deities that he/she is known as (ex: Setekh and Gwynn ap Nudd). I worship Satan because it is my will; not because I am told to or suggested to. When it comes to being a Satanist I do not even place Satan above me, but instead, as an equal. The reason why I see Satan as an equal is because as a human I am divine and I live the nature of Satan. Plus, humans (and all animals) are too unique and individual to have anything above them like a deity.

Hell

Hell is not what Judeo-Christians call the "Lake of Fire." In my opinion it is not even a state of mind. Hell is also known as the Abyss and Lower Realm to me. My take on what Hell is, is pretty much different from what most Satanists might believe it to be. Remember, I believe that Satan is the ruler of the universe. So it has to be something like that. Famous horror writer Howard Phillips Lovecraft had a name for Hell, he called it Outer Space. In his mythos, Great Cthulhu came from outer space (makes Cthulhu supernatural) but then came to live in the Atlantic Ocean (makes Cthulhu cthonic) which I would feel relates to Satan manifesting from Hell into the earth. I am not actually taking Lovecraft's mythology for my theory of Hell, but I am just showing you a similarity. Satan to me is the ruler of the universe so I would guess that Hell is somewhere in that area. Then there's the name "Abyss." An abyss is so dark and cannot be found. Plus Satan represents the dark side of the mind; our subconscious. My belief is that Hell is beyond our solar system or right next to it. It's in outer space and is not physical like a planet; but paranormal. This does not make Satan an extra terrestrial!

Life

Our nature is given to us directly from Satan. It is very animalistic, divine, and it can be enjoyable if you model yourself after Satan. I believe in indulging in my carnal nature rather than pledging to abstinence. If I were into abstinence then I could not experience physical and emotional gratification. However, I do believe in making wise decisions and practicing responsibility. So in other words, I wouldn't go raping someone or killing someone just because I wanted to feel good; I would rather not pay the time in prison. There are so many other things that I can do that are of carnality and wouldn't lead to me suffering or paying the consequences (which would leave me feeling good). I believe that humans are gods right from birth. If we recognize and manifest our divinity, then we are practicing the nature of Satan. I question all things and I do not submit to what the mainstream calls "good" and evil". I live my own life and nobody can tell me what is true about ourselves and what is morally right or morally wrong. I do not give a rat's ass when it comes to being accepted into society because of my Satanic beliefs. Everywhere you look here; there are churches on just about every five or ten streets. The Christian church is considered the moral authority for society and people look to it for moral decisions. So therefore, Christianity and religion in general has an impact on society. Do I honestly want to be a member of society? Hell no! I live the nature that Satan gave us. I oppose to what is acceptable. I do not confirm to anything that is not me and I do not travel with any herd! The sheep have a shepherd. Do I see myself lead by a shepherd? Not at all. To live the nature of Satan is to be like him. That is what I do. I do not back down from anyone. I do not get on my knees and beg for anything. I sure as Hell do not want to reason with and love my enemies. I can be a friend if you accept me; I will always be true to you and give you the love and attention you need as long as you are true to me. So as you can see, not every individual can be a Satanist. In my opinion, Satanists are born.

Magick

Within every individual is their own divinity. Our divinity is modeled after Satan's divinity (but not in the same position; we can't be the creator of the universe). In my views, magick is the tool of change. It is a divine power which works with energy. When I want to cause change somewhere in my life, I tap into my divinity and send my will out into the universe. That is how you use magick. You may ask; where did we get our divine power from? Well from what I believe, it would make sense that our spirits which Satan created in Hell were given that power. Hell is the source of divinity and it can help us in our rituals. The magician taps into their divinity, calls upon spirits from Hell, and send his or her energy (energy that has his will) out everywhere. Energy can influence or change things. So as you can see, the will of the magician can come true.

thok_ragnarok
July 5th, 2004, 01:46 PM
my opinion, no offense meant, is that by accepting satan, and calling yourself a satanist you are only confirming christianity...could it not be called helist (after the nordic goddess) or after any other god/goddess of the dark. Its an attention thing in my opinion. I do like Levay satanism as it is meant not to worship a demon, just yourself. And the name was given to piss off christians. He makes no attempt to claim a dark lord or any other lord for that matter.

before you judge I am a follower of Loki, which is considered by many to be an "evil" god

Muireannach
July 5th, 2004, 01:56 PM
I began a Satanist FAQ and info post already. But this one is your own personal view so it's a bit different :)

You may already know by now (if you read my previous articles or know me personally) that I believe in the actual paranormal/metaphysical existence of what Satanists generally call Satan. In my views he/she is the primal dark being who the source of illumination is. Satan is the first entity that ever questioned all things and recognized his/her own divinity. Satan is the ruler of the universe but manifests into the earth (this makes him/her not only supernatural, but cthonic).

If you believe in Satan as a diety you are a devil-worshipper. Satanism does not believe in Satan as an actual diety. I can see you believe a lot of the Satanist principles but yet your belief in the super-natural and the exsistance of Satan are not in line with Satanism. I think perhaps it would be more apt to call your belief system devil-worship which favours satanic philosophy.

I'm not intending to be rude, I am all for people having a mix of beliefs that work for them (I do this as well), but I just want to ensure that the original path of Satanism does not become "blurred" with others. :) Read up on "forgetfullness of past orthodoxies."

Ladyvi
July 5th, 2004, 02:02 PM
interesting . to one that is neutral .. living with both the dark side and light side of grey within her. i can relate to a degree.

as i said interesting view and certainly not what some of the want a be satanists that waste my time have said. i do have a couple of friends that are chaos mages. and when that green tuperware dish in the back bottom shelf begins to mutate and attack strangers from the frig. i usually thank cthulu for that one as well as the amusement it provided.

loki i never concidered evil . just a darker side of grey. along with lilith and and a handful of others long sought to be evil. true evil most never even know. what isnt understood or strange or unknown has been marked as evil.

aluokaloo
July 5th, 2004, 02:08 PM
I've had a lot of satanists buddies, some worship Satan as a deity others as the more primitive self I know that. I've never heard that point of view before, I believe Satan to be a Deity in his own right, I'm not entirely sure since everybody's got it jumbled up to where Satan is Lucifer or if they are two seperate beings. I'm not really sure that Satan is part of the christian pantheon it makes sense, but at the same time I always had the impression when I talked to my friends, that being a Satanist was as far removed from christianty as they could possibly get and that it was a totally seperate and distinct religion. Which also made sense.

thok_ragnarok
July 5th, 2004, 02:50 PM
I began a Satanist FAQ and info post already. But this one is your own personal view so it's a bit different :)


If you believe in Satan as a diety you are a devil-worshipper. Satanism does not believe in Satan as an actual diety. I can see you believe a lot of the Satanist principles but yet your belief in the super-natural and the exsistance of Satan are not in line with Satanism. I think perhaps it would be more apt to call your belief system devil-worship which favours satanic philosophy.

I'm not intending to be rude, I am all for people having a mix of beliefs that work for them (I do this as well), but I just want to ensure that the original path of Satanism does not become "blurred" with others. :) Read up on "forgetfullness of past orthodoxies."

actually there are many types of satanists, the type you describe are Levay satanists, the most common form. But there are groups who worship satan and would therefore be called satanists...but it is a levayian definition with the addition of worshiping of Satan.

for the comment by someone else about loki being a dark shade of grey...In Nordic beliefs he was the most evil of evil, even more so than his sister hel who was in all actuallity more neutral

Mòrag Elasaid Ní Dhòmhnaill
July 5th, 2004, 02:59 PM
for the comment by someone else about loki being a dark shade of grey...In Nordic beliefs he was the most evil of evil, even more so than his sister hel who was in all actuallity more neutral

Hel is Loki's daughter not his sister.

thok_ragnarok
July 5th, 2004, 03:11 PM
Hel is Loki's daughter not his sister.

Ooops, I knew what I meant...thanks for fixing that for me

Ladyvi
July 5th, 2004, 03:31 PM
im coming from a different perspective. those that are perceived as evil often have necessary duties and aspects so that the balance is maintained. loki and those of his ilk. satanist and those of that ilk have their place among the balance of things. i see all things as part of a whole . not a them and us type thing.

Inuus
July 5th, 2004, 05:13 PM
my opinion, no offense meant, is that by accepting satan, and calling yourself a satanist you are only confirming christianity

I have heard people say that in order to be a Satanist (especially Theistic) you have to believe that Jehovah is the one true God and that Christ is the messiah. That's total BS in my opinion as well as other Theistic Satanists. Not all of them believe that J-man and the other J-man are truth.

before you judge I am a follower of Loki, which is considered by many to be an "evil" god

To be more specific I am a Diabolator which is the proper term for a Devil Worshipper. In my opinion, Loki is very positive and without him there cannot be balance. To me Loki is another face of The Dark Lord.

If you believe in Satan as a diety you are a devil-worshipper. Satanism does not believe in Satan as an actual diety. I can see you believe a lot of the Satanist principles but yet your belief in the super-natural and the exsistance of Satan are not in line with Satanism.

Yes I do accept Devil Worshipper (as well as Theistic Satanist) as what I am but I prefer to call myself a Diabolator. No offense but you are closed minded about what Satanism is. There is NO such thing as a "True Satanism." LaVeyian/Symbolic satanism is NOT the only Satanism. Some Satanists are Theistic like me while others are Agnostic. Besides, Satanism is about the individual's needs, opinions, and such. A Satanist can decorate a tree with dildoes and call it their Satan if they wanted to!

I just want to ensure that the original path of Satanism does not become "blurred" with others.

Who said you're the authority of Satanism? LaVey and his book are just guidlines of Satanism IN GENERAL. Matter of fact, The Satanic Bible (which I do not even consider a bible because Satanists do not have to accept it) is crap to me. It only gave me an idea of what Satanism is. It's like the key to the gates that is easily discarded after used once. As I said before, LaVeyian and Symbolic Satanism is not the only Satanic tradition. That's just like someone saying that the original and true Christianity is the Baptist tradition while there are many other Christian traditions that work for others.

im coming from a different perspective. those that are perceived as evil often have necessary duties and aspects so that the balance is maintained. loki and those of his ilk. satanist and those of that ilk have their place among the balance of things. i see all things as part of a whole . not a them and us type thing.

I really like what you said! :)

Ladyvi
July 5th, 2004, 08:18 PM
~~ inclines head respectively ~~ thanks

gwendar
July 11th, 2004, 10:58 PM
Hi Inuus, I read through most of your website today and found it to be very interesting. I have to admit that until very recently I had no idea, really, what Satanists believed in, though I didn't believe the baby-eating version was quite correct, and it was enlightening to read of your experiences. I know that you are only one person and claim no authority for anyone but yourself, but I do feel that I am able to understand it a bit better now.

Pol
July 11th, 2004, 11:18 PM
Well, the word satan comes from hebrew, and the diety of satan is from the judeo-christian mythos. The word satan means the adversary, the accuser, or the persecuter (something along those lines).
In Christianity, Satan is not actually the 'evil' God or anything like that. He's the challenger of man (often used by God).
A very confused diety, and no mistake there. People have muddled with the guy so much he's lost most of his real meaning, because of his pollution by the other mythologies.

Perhaps it would behove you to look into the name by which you call your diety :)

Pol
July 11th, 2004, 11:19 PM
(BTW: as a christo-pagan, i'm all for misusing/twisting/recreating words and ideas - i just thought i would point out the origin of the word satan (in that it is, in actuality, a judeo-christian idea/diety).

I3ooI3oo
July 12th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Wow, Many different beliefs expressed here. Some i can follow others i can not... but i thought i would add just one slight thing.

As for satanism.. being one that has read the satainic bible i took satanism to be the belief that you control you own life/destiny a self empowered person relaying only in the strenght of one's self to beter one's own quest/life.

After reading i was quite stupified for i like most thought that all that were satanist worshiped some dark force.... after i found that i closely resembled a sataninst... For i use MY strenght to live MY Life... I help those whom i want to, for my reason...

Just a few cents

I3ooI3oo