What Occupations have you had in your life?

[Phi]

I thought it would be interesting to know not only what you do now, but what you have done as occupations in the past.

Right now I am...whoopee...unemployed! Soon to be moving 1000 miles away, and beginning the job search there, so I'm in sort of limbo until hubby's boss says when we move to DC area.
Hard to apply for something when you don't know when you'll be available to go to work.

I have been
A seamstress in a baby- clothes factory (high school thru college.) A Nurse, a student again, a Mom full time, Medical Technologist/Manager, a student again, an Andrologist/Clinical Scientist/Counsellor, a Manager/Scientist for an Infertility clinic, a College Instructor...


What about you??

[Bainidhe Dub]

Mmm.. my first "real" job was Subway in HS, but I've also babysat for years. Worked as a cashier at a truckstop, convenience stores, and currently, dispatch for a trucking company.

All in all, not glamorous, but hey, at least I got over being as shy as I was back in school.

[Phoenix Blue]

I have been:

A helpdesk person for Val-Pak
A PC technician
A telephone "marketing research" person
A PC technician (again)
A PC repair clerk (didn't work on the stuff in the back, just handled the customer service)
A PC technician (a third time)
A computer programmer (1999-present)

[Druchii]

Bails bondsman, bouncer (still doing it), Illustrator (still doing it), tattoo artist apprentice, ranch hand ( helped in the bizarre aspect of inseminating the cattle), worked on and detailed cars for Enterprise Rent-A-Car, worked with a jousting company for a summer, spent one whole summer as the Little Caesar Mascot, worked at a funeral home.

[mucgwyrt]

Worked in a food hall, worked in a bookstore, volunteered as a student archaeologist and now I'm a full time graphic designer :smile:

[Amethyst Rose]

I've only had a few jobs, because I didn't work while I was in University, or in Highschool. However, for 3 months before university I was a waitress in a bar, after university I was a CSR at Blockbuster, then I was a housewife, then a "client co-ordinator" (office administrator) for a year, then a housewife, now a mom.

[Terestai]

Let's see.... far too many to remember, and nothing glorious (or well-paying either). And the only thing I've done that required a degree was a six month stint as a graphic designer. Alot of that has to do with the economy here in Denver (not improving, still declining), but I'm going to be moving as soon as I get the chance.

[mucgwyrt]

Oo a fellow Graphic Designer :D
Is that what your degree's in?

[Felidae]

I'm a Bookkeeper now.

I got my first job in September of 1987. I was a File Clerk/Runner (trans.: Gopher) at a law office. That lasted 8 months.

I then found my 2nd job 2 months later at a bolt manufacturing company. I was an Accounting Clerk/Receptionist and stayed there until May of 1994.

I came here in May of '94 as an Accounting Clerk/Receptionist. I worked with various other people in this department until October of 2002. Now I pretty much handle the whole thing myself, with the exception of Month and Year End Closing, which we have a CPA do.

[Sylvan]

I did a little babysitting as a teen. A very little. Kids didn't like me very much.

At 15, I took a "job" at an afterschool program for underpriveledged youth, learning how to put together electronics. I built my own 5" color TV from a kit- soldered all the pieces inside together myself. Got a stipend as pay for it. Loooved that one. :)

At 18, after I got married, I took a job at a gas station, and worked myself to insanity. It was awful. I'd never do it again, and I'd never recommend it to someone looking for a job.

At 19, after having quit the gas station and been unemployed for a few months, I applied at the casino. I got accepted for DOI- a cleaning job. Started out in slots, which was hectic and crazy most of the time. Got moved to a high-limit blackjack pit, which wasn't too bad. Got moved to cleaning "cages"- basically, the banks in a certain area of the casino and a few offices and security podiums and whatnot. I lucked out that the people I worked closely with had similar work ethics to mine- we all busted our butts together, nobody slacked...

At 21, I put in for a different job at the casino- Promotions. Sit in a booth and set people up with Promotions accounts, print up their players' cards, hand out the free gift to people who received coupons in the mail.. It wasn't too bad, as I was on Grave shift and got *alot* of reading done. :)

At 24, after getting sick and tired of dealing with cranky patrons, I put in for yet another casino job- the one I'm at currently. I sit at a desk in an office and do payroll for a department of about 300 people. It can be frustrating at times, but heck- I get to sit on my butt and play on the computer all day, as long as I get my work done... Nobody's complaining. :D

I've been in this job a little over 3 years now. It's not my dream job, but it helps me contribute towards paying the mortgage and such. And I've been at the casino so long that next year, I start to accrue 4 weeks of vacation time a year! :foh:

It's kinda sad, I just realized that nearly 10 years have gone by since I was at the gas station, and I'm making a little less than double what I was back then, at minimum wage...

[samiaminsane]

Hmmm... I'm not that exciting,
I've worked in fast food, retail, a bookstore, helped to set up a few stores, evil telemarketing, sally's beauty supply and I'm about to go back to working in food because I'll be full time, better money and an awesome schedule.
I've also done babysitting, sold avon, I make candles/crafts/jewelry/etc. that I sell in my friends store, I went to college for a whopping quarter when I was 18 and I am certified as an Assistant Medical Specialist.

That sounds like alot for an almost 23 year old!

[Tarbh Nathroch]

Worked in a pool hall, fun

worked in a plant that made vinyl cover cloth for cars, boats and all kinds of other things also fun but very dangerous

Land scapper, sucked

Production worker, making radar detectors, ok

Production worker, making pumps, ok

Drafter/designer, got my collage paid for by work. sweet deal, loved that

Stage hand for 15 years as a second job, totally fun, lousy pay lots of famous people

deck hand on a sport fishing boat, fun but very hard, nothing like holding a shark

Security officer, sucked

Shipping/receving

now I'm a warehouse manager

[Ahautenites]

Student. 6th grade crossing guard. Spanish tutor, Latin tutor. Facilities Support clerk (mailroom duty for a couple summers). Supermarket cashier. Pet Supplies Store cashier. Spanish tutor again. 3rd grade math tutor. CVS cashier. Answering Service operator. Babysitter. Assistant Editor. Filled in for a vacationing computer lab technician. Biology lab assistant. Taught a single journalism class (because the professor, Dr. Brown, is wicked cool, but also rather nutty). Production Copyeditor. Daycare Assistant Teacher. Personal Assistant to an Insane Republican State Representative. Admin assistant for a foodservice distributor.

[Faeawyn]

In HS, worked at a Walgreens

Then worked at a beach resort setting up resort tours

Then became a receptionist at 19

Transfered into the data entry department at 20

Did data entry at home for the hospital from 24-32

Then called back in to the hospital and worked as a secretary

Then Case Management in the hospital for 2 years reviewing patient charts

Then administrative secretary at hospital for 3 years

Then opened my own home decor store

Interior decorator/decorative artist/muralist for last 3 years

[Boogins]

Uh, lessee... musician (vocals/keys/bass/songwriting), recording engineer, photo developer, cashier, cashier, cashier, cashier, cashier... fine artist, novelist, scriptwriter, hoping to be taking up an executive producership really soon. :D

[Terestai]

Oo a fellow Graphic Designer :D
Is that what your degree's in?

That's part of it... technically speaking, my degree is "media arts and animation." Sounds like a crappy tech school degree, doesn't it? When I started the program, it was "computer animation," which sounds much more professional. Too bad they changed it. But my background is actually in film, having left a film program (and Maryland) when my long-term relationship bit the dust and I wanted to come back to Colorado. But yes, I do graphic design work. ;)

This is the one thing I did at State Parks that I was the most proud of:

http://www.terestainights.com/sigs/Trails.pdf

It took a month, thanks to our idiotic anti-environment governor who kept making me change stuff. And this whole thing is a book. The first page of it is actually the front and back covers.

[redlady]

Hospital cafeteria worker :cheers:
Laboratory assistant :sick:
French fry cook at McD's :thumbsdow
Laundress at a nursing home (you would NOT believe some of the things I saw :jawdrop: )
Phlebotomist :bat:
Clinical Laboratory Scientist :bug: :yikes: :bangyourh :woah: :wtf: :gagged: :damnpc:
and don't forget: :broomride and :crystalba !

[Boogins]

That's part of it... technically speaking, my degree is "media arts and animation." Sounds like a crappy tech school degree, doesn't it? When I started the program, it was "computer animation," which sounds much more professional. Too bad they changed it. But my background is actually in film, having left a film program (and Maryland) when my long-term relationship bit the dust and I wanted to come back to Colorado. But yes, I do graphic design work. ;)

This is the one thing I did at State Parks that I was the most proud of:

http://www.terestainights.com/sigs/Trails.pdf

It took a month, thanks to our idiotic anti-environment governor who kept making me change stuff. And this whole thing is a book. The first page of it is actually the front and back covers.
Your resume is fascinating, may I add. :)

[Sleet]

I've been:

- Ice cream parlor clerk
- Sales clerk at a convenience store
- Sales clerk at a video store
- Line technician, soldering medical electronic devices
- Draftsman and surveyor
- Graduate student
- Teacher
- Research scientist
- Software engineer, in the defense and dotcom worlds
- Almost a vintner

Currently working on:

- Game designer (soon to be published, I hope!)
- Blacksmith

[mucgwyrt]

That's part of it... technically speaking, my degree is "media arts and animation." Sounds like a crappy tech school degree, doesn't it? When I started the program, it was "computer animation," which sounds much more professional. Too bad they changed it. But my background is actually in film, having left a film program (and Maryland) when my long-term relationship bit the dust and I wanted to come back to Colorado. But yes, I do graphic design work. ;)

This is the one thing I did at State Parks that I was the most proud of:

http://www.terestainights.com/sigs/Trails.pdf

It took a month, thanks to our idiotic anti-environment governor who kept making me change stuff. And this whole thing is a book. The first page of it is actually the front and back covers.

That's really nice! I love the feathers and the note bit - really creative yet functional :D

The company I work for is a bit mundane, so I dont have the chance to do funky-chikin stuff like that - more letter heads and advertisements for plumbers :lol: plus I do a bit of cartography and internet work, a few wedding invitations... :ballonsmi

I have to stay here til I can get enough experience to move. Companies over here will only consider you if you have qualifications plus at least 4 years experience!!! :geez: A lot of people I know go to uni and get a degree, but then can't get into the profession for lack of experience! I'm doing it the other way round - I started at my job as a low-wage trainee and I technically dont have any qualifications, but after 2 years my boss thinks I'm fab enough to send back to college on day-release to get an HNC starting in September :thumbsup:
It will take a couple of years, but then I'll have qualifications and experience :fpompoms

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[Lala]

-behind the counter at a "meat" market
-camp counsellor
-reception
-customer service in manufacturing
-bartender
-trade show person
-student (uni) x 2
-temp (ugh)
-*crosses fingers* coordinator for a city tourism group....hopefully!!!!!

[Elise]

-*crosses fingers* coordinator for a city tourism group....hopefully!!!!!
Good luck in your job interview today...

[Pol]

The only job I ever had was being an apprentice stone mason for my brotherinlaw.
It turned out he just needed labour he wouldn't have to pay right away. :crazylaug

Otherwise, I've been a Bum, Slob, and Bumming Slob.

[DebLipp]

In high school I babysat, cleaned houses, and telemarketed, and worked in a sub shop.

Since then I've clerked in an Intensive Care Unit, worked for the U.S. Census, been a receptionist, a secretary/admin. assistant, sold scientific advertising, worked as an office manager, done secret shopping and consumer research, written a consumer newsletter, done home daycare and been a housewife, and have worked as a technical writer for the past ten years. In addition to the books, that is.

[mucgwyrt]

The only job I ever had was being an apprentice stone mason for my brotherinlaw.


Wow, that sounds like fun!

[Morr]

~ Babysitter.
~ Costumer Service at a Hospital.
~ Army Sargent (that IS a job).
~ Waitress at the Tel Aviv Sheraton Hotel.
~ Assistant Librarian.

And I'm a full time student all the time (aside for when I was in the army).

[SylverStar]

Oh hmm what unglamorous jobs have I had. lol

Babysitter
Teacher's Aid
Barista
Waitress
Concessionist/Cashier/Usher
Secretary's Assitant
Baker/To-go/Cashier
Front Desk Agent (current)

Those are all so exciting.

I guess I can put ...

Assitant Stage Manager
Stage Manager
Props
Lighting Tech
Sound Tech
Actor

...since I've been paid for those as well, even if they were temp and crappy pay.

[Rockprincess]

13-15 Page at the library - put away books ;)

15-18 Swim Instructor and Lifeguard at a lake near my Grandparents'

18-19 Worked at Chapters and the Geological Library at Uni

19-22 Geological Technician at a small oil and gas company - part time during Uni, full time summers

22-current Geologist at large oil and gas company, full time

I've loved all of my jobs so far :boing:

[Phi]

In HS, worked at a Walgreens

Then worked at a beach resort setting up resort tours


Then opened my own home decor store

Interior decorator/decorative artist/muralist for last 3 yearsWow! Give me courage to switch careers and try that! I took Interior Design for a year, but had to quit due to a bitter divorce which made me go back to Medical to support self & child...
IM me I would love to do what you do!

[Mysticism Deity]

My first job was at Subway in the mall. Then I quit that and a couple mo nths later in that same mall I started working at the best store ever! The Eggplant Company. Not sure if any of you remember Natural wonders? but they shut down and the owner bought it and changed the name. It was so much fun working there, I got promoted 2 times in 1 month. I got to stand there and play with toys all day long and show them off to kids. it was exciting, then I got another job working at Burlington coat factory in that same mall (haha) I helped build Burlington and when it was finished I was put in teh Juniors section and did nothign but walk around and fix clothes so I quit that job and go more hours at Eggplant then they shut down after teh xmas season!!!!! :( now the only eggplant is in Idaho!

Now I am a stay at home mom to my twin boys and that is the best job I will ever have.

[IvyCeltress]

I thought it would be interesting to know not only what you do now, but what you have done as occupations in the past.

Right now I am...whoopee...unemployed! Soon to be moving 1000 miles away, and beginning the job search there, so I'm in sort of limbo until hubby's boss says when we move to DC area.
Hard to apply for something when you don't know when you'll be available to go to work.

I
What about you??

Cool Let us know when you you have a miving date so I can Welcome you to the DC 'hood.

Let's see
First full time job was in museum accredition, then I did Fulbright exchanges for Africa and E europe, then did technical support/help desk management, then did technical writing and usuability, editing course materials, now I'm editing, doing usability analysis, and instructional design for web based course.

[mucgwyrt]

My first job was at Subway in the mall. Then I quit that and a couple mo nths later in that same mall I started working at the best store ever! The Eggplant Company. Not sure if any of you remember Natural wonders? but they shut down and the owner bought it and changed the name. It was so much fun working there, I got promoted 2 times in 1 month. I got to stand there and play with toys all day long and show them off to kids. it was exciting, then I got another job working at Burlington coat factory in that same mall (haha) I helped build Burlington and when it was finished I was put in teh Juniors section and did nothign but walk around and fix clothes so I quit that job and go more hours at Eggplant then they shut down after teh xmas season!!!!! :( now the only eggplant is in Idaho!

Now I am a stay at home mom to my twin boys and that is the best job I will ever have.
Really? Still called The Natural World in England! :lol:

[Xander67]

wow!

ok, I have had several Jobs in my life and each job I had I was able to take from that a particular skill or expierience and carry with me.

My first Job was a Stock Person at Jamesway
then I worked in McDonalds in my Senior Year of High School

After I graduated High School, I worked at the Sands Casino in Atlantic City as a Change Person, at the time (1985) we wore the aprons with all the rolls of coin in them... Like in the Movies...
then I was a Slot Attendant..
in 1986 I tried my hand at helping my StepFather, I learned how to run a sand plant, it was a small operation, He would Dredge up the sand and it was pumped into the plant where the rocks and stones were sorted out , the gravel was sold as well as the sand...

Then I went to work at Bradlees, every year around Christmas time, I worked in the Toy dept as a second job.

in 87 I went to work for Trump Castle as a Change person, then transferred into the coin vault and was a coin wrapper, (I had to pour the bags of coin into the machines and they wrapped them)
then I was a booth cashier, and then a Cage Cashier...

in may of 88 I went for Basic Training at Fort Jackson, then AIT at FT Gordon (ARMY)
was discharged in 89 (honorable discharge because my stepfather passed away and I couldnt pass the PT Test, it was to be a chapter, but due to my serving over 6 months it was an Honorable Discharge)

went back to work at the Castle as a Pit Clerk,
worked in the Hospital for 3 years transporting patients for X-ray

worked in wawa,

went back to the Casinos, Worked as a Pit clerk at the Sands, then worked in Trump Plaza as a Pit Clerk.

in 98 I worked in Philly as a Data Systems Specialist for a Telecommunications Company, I also learned about installing Phone Systems.

in 99 I left and went back to the Casinos, I worked at the Claridge as a Cage Cashier and left to Teach Web Design in New York while I interned as Network Admin for the same school.

in 2000 I was a production assistant for a talent search produciton company and this is where I began to serve as Technical Advisor for the Production Company for which I do web design and Multimedia Engineering for... (I also was a security Guard and worked in the Computer Room of the Claridge Casino between 2001 and 2002)

currently, I am waiting to hear when we leave for FLorida on a project with the Production Company I work with, and in the mean time I am an Administrative Assistant, AKA Office Drone, for a financial consulting firm.

[MoonIsis]

Been a:

1. Computer support site specialist
2. Sys Admin
3. Network Engineer
4. Now a Help Desk Technician

I really feel like I went backwards to an extent, but I'd like to get back to the role of the Sys Admin. It was more of a disaster recovery position which I loved. :)

[Phi]

That's part of it... technically speaking, my degree is "media arts and animation." Sounds like a crappy tech school degree, doesn't it? When I started the program, it was "computer animation," which sounds much more professional. Too bad they changed it. But my background is actually in film, having left a film program (and Maryland) when my long-term relationship bit the dust and I wanted to come back to Colorado. But yes, I do graphic design work. ;)

This is the one thing I did at State Parks that I was the most proud of:

http://www.terestainights.com/sigs/Trails.pdf

It took a month, thanks to our idiotic anti-environment governor who kept making me change stuff. And this whole thing is a book. The first page of it is actually the front and back covers.Very neat!
But I do take exception to the "crappy tech school degree" comment. I started with a Community College degree and worked my way up going back to University as I could afford it along the way. (took a lot of crap from "know it all new university grads who didn't know sh88 from shinola in the workplace, while I trained them to actually perform the work!) I know some think that's different from a "Tech school degree" but many people do not have the means to go further than that in education, and without these hard working people, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, builders, secretaries, para medicals,
(and too many others to name) where would we be??? I appreciate them and applaud them, and was one of them, I think!! Sounds patronizing and insulting to me...get over it.

[Terestai]

That's really nice! I love the feathers and the note bit - really creative yet functional :D

The company I work for is a bit mundane, so I dont have the chance to do funky-chikin stuff like that - more letter heads and advertisements for plumbers :lol: plus I do a bit of cartography and internet work, a few wedding invitations... :ballonsmi

I have to stay here til I can get enough experience to move. Companies over here will only consider you if you have qualifications plus at least 4 years experience!!! :geez: A lot of people I know go to uni and get a degree, but then can't get into the profession for lack of experience! I'm doing it the other way round - I started at my job as a low-wage trainee and I technically dont have any qualifications, but after 2 years my boss thinks I'm fab enough to send back to college on day-release to get an HNC starting in September :thumbsup:
It will take a couple of years, but then I'll have qualifications and experience :fpompoms

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Wow!! :bug: That's definitely the way to go! Unfortunately, I started college in the mid-'90s, back when they said all you needed was a degree and you'd land a job with a $10,000 signing bonus, not to mention some hogwash about how it didn't matter what your degree was in, because you could always get a job in an unrelated field. What a load of bull that turned out to be... :thumbsdow I graduated six months after the economy started to turn, and two months before 9/11. I know all about how a degree and no work experience can make you unmarketable. Likewise, I know all about the catch-22 whereby you can't get a job without work experience, but you can't get any experience because you can't get a job.

Unfortunately, at this point in time, unless you go back to school and get an internship, you're sunk for trying to find entry-level work. In this economy, you have to walk in the door and nail every function expected of you on the first day. There's no room for error, and there's no such thing as job training. Most resumes aren't looked at if you don't have a degree in the right field (mine is still on the downhill with no sign of recovery) and a minimum of five years experience. If you don't have that, then a whole world of receptionist jobs or fast food are open to you, but precious little else.

[DebLipp]

worked in wawa.

LOL Xander! Wawa is regional, if you're not from South Jersey or Philly you'll have NO IDEA what that means! :crylaugh:

[mol]

I am a software engineer by trade. Before that I was:

1. Lathe Operator
2. Shop Gopher
3. Dishwasher
4. Fast Food Cook
5. Pizza delivery (took orders, didnt deliver)

[CaitrionaMorgaine]

I have been:

~Worked in fast food (Braum's Ice Cream and Dairy Stores)
~Taught CPR and related classes full time for the American Red Cross
~Administrative Assistant
~Medical Records Filing Clerk
~Medicare/Insurance Billing for a home health agency
~Currently I am a receptionist for an optometrist.

Avalon's Blessings, ~Rhiannon

[Terestai]

Very neat!
But I do take exception to the "crappy tech school degree" comment. I started with a Community College degree and worked my way up going back to University as I could afford it along the way. (took a lot of crap from "know it all new university grads who didn't know sh88 from shinola in the workplace, while I trained them to actually perform the work!) I know some think that's different from a "Tech school degree" but many people do not have the means to go further than that in education, and without these hard working people, mechanics, electricians, plumbers, builders, secretaries, para medicals,
(and too many others to name) where would we be??? I appreciate them and applaud them, and was one of them, I think!! Sounds patronizing and insulting to me...get over it.

Erm... I didn't mean any offense by that comment. Honestly! I just meant that my degree, though issued by a nationally-accredited, four-year institution, sounds like it came from a two-year vo-tech school. In my particular field, that doesn't cut it. That's not meant to be degrading to anyone who did go to a vo-tech school, because maybe that's all it takes in their chosen industry (more power to them, I say - I applaud anyone who goes back to school to further their education). But in my field, you can't even get a hiring manager to laugh at your resume if you have a two-year degree, much less landing a job. It's all a matter of perspective.

[mucgwyrt]

Wow!! That's definitely the way to go! Unfortunately, I started college in the mid-'90s, back when they said all you needed was a degree and you'd land a job with a $10,000 signing bonus, not to mention some hogwash about how it didn't matter what your degree was in, because you could always get a job in an unrelated field. What a load of bull that turned out to be... I graduated six months after the economy started to turn, and two months before 9/11. I know all about how a degree and no work experience can make you unmarketable. Likewise, I know all about the catch-22 whereby you can't get a job without work experience, but you can't get any experience because you can't get a job.

Unfortunately, at this point in time, unless you go back to school and get an internship, you're sunk for trying to find entry-level work. In this economy, you have to walk in the door and nail every function expected of you on the first day. There's no room for error, and there's no such thing as job training. Most resumes aren't looked at if you don't have a degree in the right field (mine is still on the downhill with no sign of recovery) and a minimum of five years experience. If you don't have that, then a whole world of receptionist jobs or fast food are open to you, but precious little else.


Yeah, sounds like that's the way England is going, though perhaps at a slower pace.
We aren't quite managing to send 90% of high school grads to uni the way I remember it was when I lived in the US :lol: There are a lot of unskilled positions in call centres over here, as well as sale and the obligatory Burger King position.

I think I was really lucky getting the job that I did - I know I had a lot of competition. My boss has said he actually had to stop accepting Resumes at one point because they were getting SOOOO many!

What are you doing at the moment?

[Druchii]

Erm... I didn't mean any offense by that comment. Honestly! I just meant that my degree, though issued by a nationally-accredited, four-year institution, sounds like it came from a two-year vo-tech school. In my particular field, that doesn't cut it. That's not meant to be degrading to anyone who did go to a vo-tech school, because maybe that's all it takes in their chosen industry (more power to them, I say - I applaud anyone who goes back to school to further their education). But in my field, you can't even get a hiring manager to laugh at your resume if you have a two-year degree, much less landing a job. It's all a matter of perspective.


I agree, and MY big burn are the ones who get jobs because they just managed to apply for them! The head of our marketing dept, has an associates degree and makes 67,000 a year and has a company car... it makes me sick. It's a bit of a joke around here, but the truth nonetheless, that she got the job because she APPLIED for it. I am not kidding... she was the only CSR in the company that did, and she got it...

[nomadicdragon]

mmmmmmm..

I've been a shift manager, a cashier, a stock clerk, a teacher, admin assistant, insurance adjuster, telespecialist(QC for phone comapny) and I wrote *cough* for a magazine that I can't mention here.

[Terestai]

Yeah, sounds like that's the way England is going, though perhaps at a slower pace.
We aren't quite managing to send 90% of high school grads to uni the way I remember it was when I lived in the US :lol: There are a lot of unskilled positions in call centres over here, as well as sale and the obligatory Burger King position.

I think I was really lucky getting the job that I did - I know I had a lot of competition. My boss has said he actually had to stop accepting Resumes at one point because they were getting SOOOO many!

What are you doing at the moment?

At the moment? Unemployed... I was working a glamorous filing clerk position until I lost my job due to budget cuts two weeks ago (thanks, Bush! Way to screw me over again). I now have a four-hour job lined up for Thursday, for which I'll be paid a whopping $30. I get to pretend like I'm being interviewed, which is ironic considering I've had a grand total of four interviews in the past three years. I've been mostly unemployed since I graduated, unable to find professional work, not being able to afford going back to school (since I have a $27,000 student loan to pay off), no health insurance, a pre-cancerous stomach condition, and working odd jobs that never last more than a month or two. I had the six-month graphic design job with State Parks, but I got that by being at the right place at the right time. I was a volunteer park ranger, and I found out they were looking for a designer before the position was posted. Unfortunately, it was what's called a seasonal position - six months, as mandated by the state. After you're done, you can't work for the state in any capacity for six months afterwards (any department, at any level). That's so they can get out of paying benefits.

I really need to move! :bangyourh

[Phi]

Erm... I didn't mean any offense by that comment. Honestly! I just meant that my degree, though issued by a nationally-accredited, four-year institution, sounds like it came from a two-year vo-tech school. In my particular field, that doesn't cut it. That's not meant to be degrading to anyone who did go to a vo-tech school, because maybe that's all it takes in their chosen industry (more power to them, I say - I applaud anyone who goes back to school to further their education). But in my field, you can't even get a hiring manager to laugh at your resume if you have a two-year degree, much less landing a job. It's all a matter of perspective.
Well okay then!:hugz:
I think it's important for us all to recognize that we all deserve applause for whatever contributions we make, and even tho' I have degrees, I first had a compleeeeete course in humility from my earlier working daze. too bad they don't make humility a mandatory course at U...:caffeine:

[soilsigh aingeal]

I worked fast food then I was a cashier in a walmart. and then I transfered to the 1hr photo dept. in that very same walmart... now I work for a cell phone company and work out of kiosks... located in walmarts :lol:

[Terestai]

Well okay then!:hugz:
I think it's important for us all to recognize that we all deserve applause for whatever contributions we make, and even tho' I have degrees, I first had a compleeeeete course in humility from my earlier working daze. too bad they don't make humility a mandatory course at U...:caffeine:

I'm glad you understand that I didn't mean any offense by my comments... :hugz:

But what you said is spot on!! And honestly, it's one of the biggest reasons I can't find a job. The school I went to is here in Denver, and I still live in Denver. I've been looking for work in Denver since I graduated three years ago. But my school is stigmatized - as a hoity-toity art school, you get alot of high-flying jackasses graduating from there, and all of them think they're the Goddess' gift to the creative world. 95% of companies in this state won't even consider your resume if they see you've gone to that school, because they've had bad experiences with every person they've ever hired that went there. And it all came down to cocky attitudes. The things I wish I'd known before I transferred there... :ack:

This is also the reason I only maintain contact with one person that I went to school with... I couldn't stand those people while I was there!

[Terestai]

I agree, and MY big burn are the ones who get jobs because they just managed to apply for them! The head of our marketing dept, has an associates degree and makes 67,000 a year and has a company car... it makes me sick. It's a bit of a joke around here, but the truth nonetheless, that she got the job because she APPLIED for it. I am not kidding... she was the only CSR in the company that did, and she got it...

:foh: Damn!! That's what I need to find! Out of curiosity, was it an internal posting?

[HorseCrow]

Well, now I'm a midwife.

Before that I have been employed as an archeology assistant, as a trainer of horses on at a breeders farm and as an assistant in a daycare centre.............

[Phi]

I'm glad you understand that I didn't mean any offense by my comments... :hugz:

But what you said is spot on!! And honestly, it's one of the biggest reasons I can't find a job. The school I went to is here in Denver, and I still live in Denver. I've been looking for work in Denver since I graduated three years ago. But my school is stigmatized - as a hoity-toity art school, you get alot of high-flying jackasses graduating from there, and all of them think they're the Goddess' gift to the creative world. 95% of companies in this state won't even consider your resume if they see you've gone to that school, because they've had bad experiences with every person they've ever hired that went there. And it all came down to cocky attitudes. The things I wish I'd known before I transferred there... :ack:

This is also the reason I only maintain contact with one person that I went to school with... I couldn't stand those people while I was there!
Send your resume out out out!!!Go for it! Maybe there is a good position for u in another state...where they don't know about the cocky rep of your school!
(Can't hurt, and maybe it will start a whole new life for ya!)

[DragonDawn]

I've been a cashier at Walmart, worked at a Army Reserve base mess hall, casheir/waitress at a small pizza place, and now I'm going to college to become an elementary teacher.

[Terestai]

Send your resume out out out!!!Go for it! Maybe there is a good position for u in another state...where they don't know about the cocky rep of your school!
(Can't hurt, and maybe it will start a whole new life for ya!)

That's actually what I'm just starting to do! ;) Yeah, I just signed a year lease on my apartment in the middle of May, but I have to go where the work is. I've definitely found out the hard way that it's not here. I don't want to live here anymore anyway. Snow and Winter isn't my thing. :lol:

[IvyWitch]

I started as a cashier in Grand Union when I was 15. After that I worked in the B&N cafe until I graduated high school. Then when I came back from being away (permanently came back..) I got a job at Linens and Things, and hung out there for 2 years until I decided to go back to school, and the last job I had was at a candle store in the mall. I am currently unemployed. =/ Long story..

[coyoger]

~worked in High school library as a student trying to get out of 5th period.
~worked at Taco Villa (yummy yummy eats)
~worked at Dippin' Dot before people knew what that was, do you know what it is now?
~worked at Waldenbook for the antichrist. Loyal worker for 3 years then the heffer fires me at Christmas.
~worked at Public library as basic library type. (not offical, but same as libarian)
~worked as lab assistant for college Chemistry. (By far the best)
~Work now as a "Petroleum" engineer for Department of Interior. (although my degree is in Chemical Engineering.)
(looking to go back to Chemistry) [way funner than being a paper pusher]

[Phi]

I agree, and MY big burn are the ones who get jobs because they just managed to apply for them! The head of our marketing dept, has an associates degree and makes 67,000 a year and has a company car... it makes me sick. It's a bit of a joke around here, but the truth nonetheless, that she got the job because she APPLIED for it. I am not kidding... she was the only CSR in the company that did, and she got it...Sometimes it's the Associate degree people who have the longest and most experience with the firm they work for...and who's to say that their x-#-years of experience in the firm are worth less than 2 more years courses?
When I went back to U...breezed through all the courses that actually applied to my field and most of the history,English, psychology, cause I already knew that. U was mostly just about proving what I already knew for me. So I can safely say that I didn't learn much more from U than I knew before I went...I was very self-educated, tho.
Back then there weren't so many of the Clep tests as now, and most U's require a certain # of hours spent there in their U.
I don't know about this Associate Degree person, but maybe she earned the position in spite of her only having an Associate's, in which case you might learn a lot from her...and give Kudo's to her for it too..
Honestly, I am beginning to think that a U degree is just creating an upper-class /lower-class
division that's totally unnessessary. The "I'm better than u" syndrome. Try to learn from everybody you come in contact with and remember to appreciate those who have less formal ed and maybe more life ed than you do.
I can safely say this because I've been both, worked both sides of this issue...

And hey this thread already proves that U does not =intelligent, and certainly not wise! Some of the best posters here don't work in jobs that required U degrees, or that require no degrees, I see...

[djmixon]

Florist
Shoe Salesman & Store Manager
Secretary
Court Reporter Transcriptionist
Process Server
Accountant
College Professor
Auditor
Business Owner
Artisan
Computer Geek
Consultant / Systems Design & Security
GED Instructor
Typesetter / Printer
Technical Writer / Editor
Research Assistant

oh, and chief cook and bottle washer, diaper changer, butt wiper, nose wiper (different cloth), disciplinarian, referree, travel agent, social secretary, personal assistant, maid and otherwise slave. . .also known as Mom

I have an AAS, a BBA, an MBA and am only a few hours shy of an MSA (take that all of those who think I am an idiot) and am considering going for a PhD. . .

worked in prisons, jails, offices, homes, out of my car, store fronts. . .met all kinds of people. . .

now, I am disabled and will work on my home business and artisanship. . .

BB
Donna

[Druchii]

Sometimes it's the Associate degree people who have the longest and most experience with the firm they work for...and who's to say that their x-#-years of experience in the firm are worth less than 2 more years courses?
When I went back to U...breezed through all the courses that actually applied to my field and most of the history,English, psychology, cause I already knew that. U was mostly just about proving what I already knew for me. So I can safely say that I didn't learn much more from U than I knew before I went...I was very self-educated, tho.
Back then there weren't so many of the Clep tests as now, and most U's require a certain # of hours spent there in their U.
I don't know about this Associate Degree person, but maybe she earned the position in spite of her only having an Associate's, in which case you might learn a lot from her...and give Kudo's to her for it too..
Honestly, I am beginning to think that a U degree is just creating an upper-class /lower-class
division that's totally unnessessary. The "I'm better than u" syndrome. Try to learn from everybody you come in contact with and remember to appreciate those who have less formal ed and maybe more life ed than you do.
I can safely say this because I've been both, worked both sides of this issue...

Last month was her 2 year anniversery here. She only has had her current position for 8 months, serving prior as a CSR. Our art dept, is now 13% less effective on output because of faulty equipment that we have to okay through her to replace. I see your point, and know of others not unlike what you speak of that ARE good and built upon their careers with no more college than 2 years. But I work for a moron. If you knew her you would know what I mean.

[Druchii]

:foh: Damn!! That's what I need to find! Out of curiosity, was it an internal posting?

Yeah, our CEO tends to believe that EVERYONE is interchangeable... which never bodes well for the graphics guys here. I work at a good job, but the people are odd.

[Terestai]

Yeah, our CEO tends to believe that EVERYONE is interchangeable... which never bodes well for the graphics guys here. I work at a good job, but the people are odd.

Which is strange, because I've done alot of odd jobs with good people! :D

Though I know what you mean about the graphics industry. As soon as it comes to decisions, everyone's an art director and some moron with hideous taste (the state governor, in my case) gets the last say. Then you wretch and heave as you make changes to something brilliant and complex, just to satisfy an imbecile who'd rather have clipart from a Microsoft CD.

[Mab]

clerk in a corner drug store
marketing rep for Cutco
bakery worker at Golden Corral
stage hand (work-study) at the campus theatre
clerk/receptionist/temp
assistant insurance csr
account manager-commerical insurance

[Patriciaj]

I have worked at a swimming pool, as a bus girl, motel house keeper, day care provider, convenience store clerk, drug store clerk, adolescent center staff , bookkeeper, and bartender for 20 years. Those were the paying jobs.

I have also been a homemaker, teacher, counselor, cook, taxi cab driver, event planner, bouncer, babysitter, seamstress, handi woman, chemist, researcher, lawn care technician, caregiver, doctor, and I am sure there are some that I am forgetting. :crazylaug :bug: :woah:

[djmixon]

bakery worker at Golden Corral
YUMMMM Gilded Trough rolls. . . .yuuuummmmmmmmm

[Druchii]

As soon as it comes to decisions, everyone's an art director and some moron with hideous taste (the state governor, in my case) gets the last say. Then you wretch and heave as you make changes to something brilliant and complex, just to satisfy an imbecile who'd rather have clipart from a Microsoft CD.

Truer words were never spoken...
Where is that "Hi Five" smily?! :D

[Phi]

REDLADY!!!! LMAO!
[Clinical Laboratory Scientist :bug: :yikes: :bangyourh :woah: :wtf: :gagged: :damnpc: ]


How true!!!:rotfl:

[Phi]

I am a software engineer by trade. Before that I was:

1. Lathe Operator
2. Shop Gopher
3. Dishwasher
4. Fast Food Cook
5. Pizza delivery (took orders, didnt deliver)

Hey your forgot SITEGOD! Most important to us here at MW
:hailmol:

[Aine of the Fae]

McDonalds (got fired... big scandal... they still have rumors about it... almost 10 years later...)
Rally's (fast-food, quit because 40 year old manager wanted me to be his mistress. I was 16. ewww...)
Subway (quit to go to college)
College library assistant
Wal-mart (2 weeks, quit because of car accident)
Secretary (several places)
gas station attendant
Debt collector (yup, I used to be one of those nasty people calling to get you to pay your bills)
Data entry (dude, I type 80+ words a minute... they LOVE me in data entry jobs...)
Dipper (packing premade dip mixes... yuck...)
Temp work (lots of secretarial...)
Burger King manager
Kentucky Fried Chicken (Yes, klucky, I used to work there...)
Professional Psychic (dude, the money is REALLY, REALLY good!!!!)
Online Bookseller
Mary Kay Lady

[Lady Jade]

Fast food at Burger King as an hourly, then a manager
Home Aid for mentally retarded adult men
Manager at a Kentucky Fried Chicken
bartender (favorite)
waitress
Paralegal
Customer Service rep (currently)

[MerrisHawk]

Billing for Community Mental Health
K&L Manufacturing (read Sweatshop)
Waitress
Arctic Circle
Bartender
Seasonal Inspector
Packaging Plant
Lawn Service
Gas Station Attendant
Dental Claims Approver

On the Side:
Secretary for SGR Board of Directors
Post Clerk for Battalion 1 SGR
Group Manager - Dreams of Darkness

[Tsuchimaru]

I really haven't had one.....nor do I want one..... :whatgives

[Raydreamer]

It's really fascinating seeing what everyone did!

I used to and still do occasionally Busk my way around europe using my fire poi,
Worked in a bar called Pickwicks in Portugal
Worked for a nightclub called Chicago Rock Cafe in Bristol
Daffodil Picked in Scotland and Lincoln
Pea and strawberry picked in Denmark
Worked at a Frozen Yoghurt stall in Bristol Shopping Mall (yeah.... I know!)
Worked as a call centre agent for Yellow Pages in Bristol

and that's it for now...all monkey jobs that pay terrible, but University will change all that! ;)

[djmixon]

Subway (quit to go to college)

ummmm Subway. . . .

Can you tell I haven't eaten yet? Now I am starving!@!@!@@!!@!@@

Must go munch a lunch. . .I hear Subway calling me. . .

[WynterWynd]

Pen pusher for PaperMate pen and office supply:blech:
Money snatcher at McDnalds
Taco pusher at DelTaco
Cop Food Supplier (Winchels Donuts)
Reservation taker for a limo company
Liabation Ladeler (bartender):lol:
Yogurt pusher/counter person for TCBY
Professional Steering Wheel Holder (truck driver):hehehehe:

[Strega Del Vento]

Whew.. Let's see if I can remember them all.. lol

Age 14 ~ Housekeeper in Nursing Home. (Too depressing!)

Age 16-18 ~ Waitress

Age 18-25 ~ Exotic Dancer (Yep.. haha)

Age 28-Now ~ My Own In-Home Business (And Mommy, most importantly. Best job yet!)

:hehehe:

[Aine of the Fae]

ummmm Subway. . . .

Can you tell I haven't eaten yet? Now I am starving!@!@!@@!!@!@@

Must go munch a lunch. . .I hear Subway calling me. . .

Subway is the only fast food place I've worked at that I'll actually still eat at.

[Philbo]

I won't go through all the reataurants.

other jobs:
painting
modelling
massage therapy
counselling
ranch-hand

[Faeawyn]

modelling
massage therapy
counselling
ranch-hand
Hmmm...a modeling cowboy that can do massages and be understanding....
dreamy :hearteyes :nyah:

[Lilith79]

I've been a fast food server, a waitress, a coffee expert (worked register and barista at Caribou), a retail clerk, a store trainer, a full time mommy, an actress (ren fest), a boothie (ren fest), a nut hawker(ren fest), a gamer (ren fest).

Now dh...
He's been an auditer, a fast food cook, a paper delivery boy, a junk yard worker, a mechanic-heavy and car, farmer, and my personal fav-A Professional Tit Puller.





He grew up on a farm.... :hehehe:

[blugirrl1]

let see hmm.
first job ever was at a Church's Chicken, since then i had had various other fast food ( Arby's , Hardee's, papa john's, east of chicago, and i am sure there was more on that list)
more restaurants as a waitress, bartender and general whatever, from bussing to dishes, to grill cooking. ( can think of at least 4)
I spent 8 years working in adult retail. ( 2 different stores Panda Bear on Bourbon street and Chartres st. Connexxxion)
2 years at a video store in columbus, Ohio
i have worked in factories ( making car handles for honda, boxing mashed taters for some food place, and currently i bag insulation for Green Fiber)
Spanish speaking grocery store in Florida ( boy was that fun)
some more retail in the French Quarter, La.
all of those to pay the bills, My full time is Domestic Goddess and mom.
i think that is all.

[mucgwyrt]

Which is strange, because I've done alot of odd jobs with good people! :D

Though I know what you mean about the graphics industry. As soon as it comes to decisions, everyone's an art director and some moron with hideous taste (the state governor, in my case) gets the last say. Then you wretch and heave as you make changes to something brilliant and complex, just to satisfy an imbecile who'd rather have clipart from a Microsoft CD.

Amen to that :rolleyes:

[mucgwyrt]

Hmmm...a modeling cowboy that can do massages and be understanding....
dreamy :hearteyes :nyah:

:rotfl:

[NivekDrgnMage]

That is a lot of years LOL

Burger King in HS
Security Guard
Locksmith
Electonic Security system Tech (Installed and Serviced)
Osborne Computer company (Factory work)
Shipping/receiving Light bulb Factory
US Army Military Police(K9 handler/Prison Guard/Road patrol/Physical Security)
US Army EOD (Bomb Squard)
Dell Tech Support (through an out source)
Microsoft Customer Service Activation and Regitration (same out source)
and at the Present
Delaware State Lottery/Slots
I may of missed one or two they would have been short temp jobs. :)

[NivekDrgnMage]

LOL Xander! Wawa is regional, if you're not from South Jersey or Philly you'll have NO IDEA what that means! :crylaugh:

Hey we have them in Delaware :) and they are in North Jersey too! At least when I live there. :)

and for those that don't know they are a 7/11 type store ;)

[OriginalWacky]

Okay, here goes:

Paid Stuff (not in order)
Baby sitter (for several folks)
Assistant to payrall manager (for state of SD)
State employee file organizer (for state of SD)
Dishwasher (in a restaurant)
Cashier (gas station)
Waitress (restaurant)
Hostess (restaurant)
Short order cook (cafe)
Cashier (pet store)
Cashier (pet store)
Microfilmer (temp job)
Cashier (gas station)
Waitress (pizza joint)
Cashier (pet store)
Waitress (truck stop)
Stable hand (quarter horse ranch)
Kennel tech (kennel)
Cashier (pet store)
Cashier (fast food)
Cashier/Food Prep (fast food)
Custodian (state of SD)
Kennel worker (kennel)
Technical support technician (Gateway 2000)
Collections worker (bank in SD)
Catalog order taker (Eddie Bauer)
Avon lady (myself)
Cashier (fast food)
Telemarketer (for a big comapny)
Cashier (pharmacy)
Stable hand (racetrack)
Assastant Manager (pet store)
Lingerie model (small company in SD)
Customer Service rep (Citibank)
Animal Care (pet store)
Pollster (for small survery company)
and now, Kennel worker again.

Unpaid Stuff (again, not in order)
candy striper
letter reader at old folk's home
volunteer for three different humane societies
vet assistant
help at cat rescue
mommy, with all that entails

Well, I guess that about covers it, for the most part. I'm sure I missed things, but they can't be that important.

[djmixon]

candy striper

So how do you strip candy?

[WitchJezebel]

Oh my, here goes:

Deli counter person (making sandwiches)
Pathmark Supermarket (cashier)
Telecommunications assistant (Bangkok Bank on Wall St., NYC)
E.F. Hutton (secretary)
Shearson Lehman Hutton (administrative assistant in training dept)
Merrill Lynch Futures, Inc. (admin. asst)
Deloitte & Touche Accounting firm (admin. asst)
Eddie's Grill (catering)
Doubletree Hotels (catering)
Rancho Pinot Grill (salad, appetizers and dessert stations)
The Farm at South Mountain (manager of eatery on Pecan Grove)
Judson Boarding School (head chef of dinner run at boarding school)
Saba's Meditteranean (waitress, part time)
Nicola's (Sous chef, downtown Los Angeles)
Transamerica Insurance and Investments (Admin. Asst)

and now I'm just slumming it as a temp. in an office....

But I've got a food industry interview tomorrow!!!!!!!!!

[Black RiverWolf]

i was a waitress/cook/busgirl at a truckstop for two years (i miss the wierd drivers)
a manager for 4 resterants for road Ranger (RR sucks don't ask)
now a RWC for US Cellular

[celtie]

Let's see..I've worked at a clothes store (sales clerk)..at McDonald's (counterperson)..at a deli (sandwich maker)..at an amusement park (restaurant cashier)..at a film processing lab (photofinisher)..spent a good chunk of time as a stay at home mom/wife (best job ever :) )..at a hardware store (cashier)..at a sandwich shop (asst. manager)..at a car stereo store (clerk)..at a Jenny Craig center (receptionist - my boss was Jenny's less-than-nice daughter, no less)..at a law office (office assistant)..at a swimming pool supply distributor (receiving)..at a CPA firm (secretary)..at a sheet metal factory (production)..at another film processing lab (photofinisher)..at a plastics factory (production)..at a rubber factory (production)..and now I do PR/promotions/merchandising in the music business. I've moved a lot, hence so many jobs. ;)

[~Broken Lily~]

I worked in acouple of shops while I was in school.

My first full time job was an Instrument Calibrater. It was no way as good as it sounds. I would have to spend hours watching oil drip through glass in an emoty fish tank, in a freezing science lab.
I then worked in Customer Services. After that I went into Commercial Insurance sales and then onto an Insurance Broker.

I'm now a house wife who spends to much time on the internet.

[Holly Ariadna]

Baby-sitter and cashier. :p Cut me some slack, I'm only 16! :smile:

[13thChylde]

let's see...

bus-girl (first job ever)
McD's (fired after 2 days for talking too much!)
a few other waitress jobs
lots + lots of women's clothing shops at the mall....somewhere between 10 - 20 ~ Contempo Casuals, Victoria's Secret, the closet, Merry-Go-Round, etc.
talent scout for Barbizon modeling
worked for an assisted-living community
manager of a small Kinko's like place, before there were Kinko's
worked for a credit bureau gathering info from courthouses
administrative assistant: for a computer consulting firm, a film development company, an engineering firm, and two pharmaceutical companies, inc. the one currently employed by

I'm sure there are more, but they were short-lived.

[docdoo]

Heh, lots of jobs here

1. Dunkin Donuts (time to make the Donuts!)
2. KFC (time to make the chicken)
3. Lingerie Model
4. (Would rather not mention)
5. (Would rather not mention)
6. Ceramics shop (painting, pouring molds)
7. Rural route Newspaper delivery (here I learned that a Sunday Newspaper can do ALOT of damage when thrown out of a car traveling at 50 mph :tongueout )
8. Waitress
9. Secretary
10. Secretary
11. Waitress
12. Secretary
13. Receptionist

[Illuminatus]

Camp Counselor
PC Repair
Controls Automation Engineer
Software Quality Assurance Consultant
System Test Engineer

I think my next one will be restaurant entrepreneur. Anyone know anything about this?

[13thChylde]

3. Lingerie Model
4. (Would rather not mention)
5. (Would rather not mention)

hehehe...I forgot about the lingerie modeling gigs.
and the "would rather not mention" gig..had one or two of those, myself :whistle:

[docdoo]

hehehe...I forgot about the lingerie modeling gigs.
and the "would rather not mention" gig..had one or two of those, myself :whistle:


LMAO, actually the 'would rather not mention' were the best paying jobs I've ever had...though, isn't that always the way of it? :bigredgri

[13thChylde]

LMAO, actually the 'would rather not mention' were the best paying jobs I've ever had...though, isn't that always the way of it? :bigredgri
You got that right, unfortunately!! And tax-free!

[phoenix1010]

I had a series of retail jobs for a few years. Worked as a medical transcriptionist for year. I worked in the casino industry for 5 years. Next I became a bus driver and went back to college. Now I am a stay at home mom.

[Pesha]

I was a nurse for 25 years until I became disabled.

BB
DS.

[Tzhebee]

As far as official paying jobs:

Newspaper delivery person (10 years old - lasted about 1 year)
Babysitter (all through teen years)
Layaway attendant for department store (ShopKo - 4 years)
Clerk at drug store (RiteAid - 4 months)
Senior Planning Assistant (American Express - 10 years this Oct)

[thok_ragnarok]

I wasn't going to reply, but decided to give you all a bit more of a background on me so you would know where I was coming from. When I was 18 I got my first job at taco bell...for the next year I went back and forth between taco bell and donato's (a regional pizza joint), I then threw in a second job at Lee's (a regional chicken joint) while working at donato's. At 19 I wen't into the army for communications...within a year I quit that as well. I then worked as a manager for Donato's. I finally accepted a job for my fathers delivery company. I lost that job due to my driving record. I held a job at Burger King for a brief period before deciding to get my act together and now I'm working for sprint doing tech support, I'm moving up in the ranks there reasonably quick