Ley walkers

[Grace]

Ley walkers have come to my attention recently.
I seek information on ley walkers..I have some idea of course but it is knowledge that maybe spread amount many
Are their others who see their path as ley walkers.

[Ladyvi]

grace you should know by now i work with ley.

on the note of other ley walkers and ley masters. not an easy find. and they dont advertise out there. it will be a tough search.

[Shanti]

Heres some info:

Link (http://www.mtu.net/%7Edaclarke/rpg/whitewolf/ley_lines.htm)

Its a RPG link but its has the most info of the potential idea

Other than that, most info is from RPG and marvel comics.

Actually all the info I can find on this giant WWW is based on RPG's and comics when it comes to ley walking. If there was any substantial info, it would be nice to see.

[Shanti]

Here is some info on the therory of ley lines. Looking for info on just ley lines is much easier.

Link (http://www.mystical-www.co.uk/leylines.htm)


Link (http://www.occultopedia.com/l/ley_lines.htm)



Link (http://www.geo.org/dowse1.htm)

If you just Google you can find ley line info easily.

[Faeawyn]

Theres info here http://www.stonesofwonder.com/ley2.htm

[Shanti]

Theres info here http://www.stonesofwonder.com/ley2.htm
Thanks for that. Its shows that ley lines is therory based and it mentions nothing, I could see about ley walking.

If ley 'walking' had info, that is what I think Grace is searching for. I, myself have not found anything on that.

[Faeawyn]

Thanks for that. Its shows that ley lines is therory based and it mentions nothing, I could see about ley walking.

If ley 'walking' had info, that is what I think Grace is searching for. I, myself have not found anything on that.
In the article that I referenced her to, it says that shamans use "spirit paths" as a means to astral travel...etc...etc... I thought that was probably what she meant by ley walking....ie: traveling the spirit path??

[Shanti]

Ley lines are a differant thing entirely to spirit paths. Ley lines are theroried to be energy lines kinda like roads that runs all over the planet. Thats the best way I can think to put it. I would assume that ley walker would be someone who can feel these energy roads, so to speak, and travel them to where ever for whatever, but this is where all the info I find is connected to role playing games.

I would love to find info outside of RPG and comics.

[Shanti]

Ley lines may exsist. I believe, for myself, more of the consept as energy lines. Nature in itself has energy flowing throughout and energy is everywhere. And its at differant levels at differant times in differant places. For me ley lines are like lightening streaks running through the cosmos, and our area of it. And I believe you can tap the energy to uplift your own, just like you tap into energy of the sun. This is my consept of ley lines. Other perspects of course are differant. As for 'walking' leylines, ?.
To journey is using energy. You can direct that energy and such. But the consept of walking ley lines doesnt seem relavant for my perspectives.

This is all my personal perspective...not everyones. I am always open to brodening my perspectives but when it comes to this topic, I havent found any info that could do that, yet.

[Ladyvi]

seen all the rpg links there is .. though it hits on a couple of points. its pretty ficticious and dramatized .. the real ley walkers are out there somewhere.

[Shanti]

seen all the rpg links there is .. though it hits on a couple of points. its pretty ficticious and dramatized .. the real ley walkers are out there somewhere.
Shame I have yet to find info. On the WWW, especially since it spans all countries, you can a refferance for almost anything. A history, therory, ledgend, myth. But I cant find anything on ley walkers. Not even a thought. Its a shame. At this rate, I guess, the term will remain in RPG and in a idea here.

[Ladyvi]

shanti . i know . i tried looking several times. its very frustrating. have gathered a few sites that map out the ley lines. here in the states. it isnt done that much.

[Shanti]

Ley lines. I found a lot of info there, but its very variable, depending upon the therory.

That still doesnt help with any hint of ley walking.

[Shanti]

Gosh are there at least a book or too?

Knowledge can be difficult to obtain if it isnt offered.

How about some ideas shared ?

[Grace]

Shanti

Greetings ..I agree with you.
I certainly appreciate your interest ..you are welcomed
I have found the same ..little or none..
I saw some last night . They were amazing ..perhaps they are there and we do not recognize them for what they are.
I sat in a state of shock once I realized what I was seeing..
I will map out my area..
Perhaps a journey into the other world will give answers.. a good idea for a quest..if any.
I wonder if we stand outside in the other world and look to ours.
Like on top of mountain looking at the Earth..

[Grace]

Yes
Believe it is setup as a game..interest..so many of the games come very close to reality ..like when we teach our children to make a game of it and other I wonder if they even trully know the significance of what they are using

[Grace]

Thank you Faeawyn
I appreciate your response and will pursue the lead.

Grace

[Shanti]

Terminology is where I search with esteem.

My beliefs I was aware of before I knew the terminology. I have always believed in spirit in everything. It wasnt until last year, I found the term for it was Animist. Same with Shamanism. I didnt know I was doing Shamanistic journeys until I found the term and its explanation. I found that gnosis doesnt follow a dictionary.

Often I find that my perspectives match a term but the perspective comes before the term. Without a clear picture of what the term means, how can one even know if they have any like thoughts? And to generalize is to set a state of potential mis-understanding. That is why I defined my perspective on ley lines. In hopes that anouther explaintion of ley lines would follow to open the mind to the ideas of what works or doesnt work on an individual level. Ley lines I can most compare to lightening bolts.

I am not verse on words. As my exaple of my beliefs in spirit in everything. Before I knew the term, the explanation was long. Now I use the term and the only long explanation needed is when it is asked for.

[Phi]

Gosh are there at least a book or too?

Knowledge can be difficult to obtain if it isnt offered.

How about some ideas shared ?
These seem interesting, but I haven't read them. Little reviews are shown.

http://www.leyhunter.com/new/announcement.htm

[Shanti]

These seem interesting, but I haven't read them. Little reviews are shown.

http://www.leyhunter.com/new/announcement.htm
Thanks Phi!!!!!

Just that first review made ley lines sound quite simular to the differant paths taken on Shamanist journeys in order to go to differant planes!!!!!!!!!

I will be buying some books!!!! Now my thirst for info has increased!!!

Thanks again! :)

[Ladyvi]

i will say nothing more .. my credibility has been questioned and therefore will not be adding anything further. this is exactly why i have kept silent so long. if it isnt appreciated. then i will be the silent still noise.

[Shanti]

How can anyone learn or undestand if not through sharing? Who guestioned credability? I just want to learn more and understand the differant perspectives.

Often 2 people will think the same way but use differant terminology. The only way to know anything is to share thoughts, compare and express.

Sorry if you are offended.

To ask is the beginning of finding.

[Ladyvi]

not saying shanti . if you wish a different venue for this discussion fine. there are people that rankle at sharing certain information. they think certain things shouldnt be disclosed. i enjoy this forum as i thought i could have an opportunity of not only meeting and conversing with individuals of similar ilk or of a mind to discuss things. i am disappointed. there are some people that dont believe that a person can be certain things. its impossible. some people ask me how do i know.. some of it transcends and i know . some of it is collective memory of the lives i had. some of it is by reading and weeding through others mind sets to get the nich and crux of what they are saying. i dont have to prove anything to anyone. to some. that would be a sign ' ha told ya she was faking' to others it would seem cowardly. i am what i am and will not prove anything to anyone. the gods dont require it and all i have to answer to.

[Faeawyn]

i thought i could have an opportunity of not only meeting and conversing with individuals of similar ilk or of a mind to discuss things. i am disappointed. there are some people that dont believe that a person can be certain things. its impossible. some people ask me how do i know.. some of it transcends and i know . some of it is collective memory of the lives i had. some of it is by reading and weeding through others mind sets to get the nich and crux of what they are saying. i dont have to prove anything to anyone. to some. that would be a sign ' ha told ya she was faking' to others it would seem cowardly. i am what i am and will not prove anything to anyone. the gods dont require it and all i have to answer to.
I'm sorry you feel that way. It does seem you've wondered into some controversial threads recently. You're correct that some people don't believe certain things....but you'll find that any where you go. For the most part, this place is amazingly accepting. However, we do have the occassional person who says "I can make fire balls with my hands and fling them across the room and knock things over"...and it makes people feel that this discredits the community as a whole.
I for one find your discussions VERY interesting. I would be very interested in learning more. I am a believer that all things are possible....and I don't find it at all unbelievable that you are a spiritual guardian. I was saved by a group of them once....so I'm a believer :)

[Shanti]

That understandable. I always say the only limits are the one set be the human mind and the physical body. Spirit has no limits.
Everyones expirances are differant and as unique as the individual. Some people have said that they have seen angles and angles are real. I believe they saw them and they are real for that person. Just as real as that person. Not real for me. I dont believe in their exsistance in my reality. But thats whats so special about us all. We are all unique. We all have our own truths and realities.

When it comes to gnosis. So far all knowledge I have ever obtained, I have been able to confirm with searching. I love conformation! :)

Like I knew what animism was before I knew its name. I searched for like belief, it took time, but I searched and found the comfirmation of what was my truth. I tend to keep things to myself until I find that comformation so I can show what it is I am talking about. I only share uncomfirmed information with my loved ones.

[Shanti]

I'm sorry you feel that way. It does seem you've wondered into some controversial threads recently. You're correct that some people don't believe certain things....but you'll find that any where you go. For the most part, this place is amazingly accepting. However, we do have the occassional person who says "I can make fire balls with my hands and fling them across the room and knock things over"...and it makes people feel that this discredits the community as a whole.
I for one find your discussions VERY interesting. I would be very interested in learning more. I am a believer that all things are possible....and I don't find it at all unbelievable that you are a spiritual guardian. I was saved by a group of them once....so I'm a believer :)
Perhaps someone can make fireballs with their hand. It may not be probable but is possible. The person who states it is the only one who truely knows.
The only spirit guardenians I have incountered where of the spirit world. Do they exsist in the physical world, very possible. Have I encountered one in my life, no. Do I want to learn more about them, yes. Is ladyvi one, she knows if she is and I dont see why she couldnt be one. Its very possible. I may personally meat one some day and that would be a treat for sure!

Some people believe Shamans dont exsist. I know for my reality they do.
Its all perspective and choice of what one is willing or not to believe. We all cant belive everything. But we can believe that truth is within the individual.

[Theres]

reading through all this i just can't see where any perceived 'offense' lies, but, oh well.

anyway, not to steer this back on topic or anything...
how about searching for sites on 'dowsing'? this is a fairly common term for what you seem to be describing, and personally i've never heard the term 'ley walking' before (and apparently neither has Google).

[Ladyvi]

my SO has an affinity with fire. he can do certain things. astrally maybe he can throw a fireball or two. but in the prime material no. can it eventually be unlocked in the future. i believe so. now . most folks i wouldnt trust with that kind of power.

i do apologize to the majority of this particular thread. i am a lone self taught individual. i have come across certain individuals that have helped me unlock certain things. but on a whole what i know and what i can do, on my own.

terminology is a huge factor. someone can say can you do this and i think ' no i dont think so' they will start teaching it ' ohh yeah . done it ' just because of terminology. do i have holes in my education .. absolutely.

some folks are floored of the fact of the way i 'ground' if you call it that. i truely never am without a fair amount of energy through my system. at the moment its at a dull roar for the baby. i keep a very close eye on that. for what runs through my system will run through the baby. most base level things are usually not a problem. my SO also helps me gauge these things.

[Shanti]

I have been searching the net while watching MW and I have found those very referrances!!! :) I am starting to find more and more as I explore connected termonology.

[Shanti]

terminology is the most difficult part of human communication!!!!!!

That is why I ask to the point of nausium...to understand in words and thoughts, I understand!!! :)

Our brains are so differant!

[Ladyvi]

dowsing have been used in tracing ley lines actually. it has been found out that ley lines not only run with fault lines but also with underground water lines. the natural ones not pipes. i have found that this produces different energies on the ley lines.. cold/hot/ electrical there maybe more variants. still in research. it could go faster if i could travel but then life is one huge study anyway.

[Faeawyn]

yes, some say they're earth energy lines, spirit paths, fairy roads, and also astral travel routes....at least, in my research, thats what I've found.

[Shanti]

dowsing have been used in tracing ley lines actually. it has been found out that ley lines not only run with fault lines but also with underground water lines. the natural ones not pipes. i have found that this produces different energies on the ley lines.. cold/hot/ electrical there maybe more variants. still in research. it could go faster if i could travel but then life is one huge study anyway.
As I understand from the way I am seeing it so far......

The water issue makes sence. Water flows create huge amounts of energy. That is a very conseveable thought to me. And the natural vrs man made. The natural have been directed by various earth based reason, such as gravity and the pull of the moon and the shape and movement of this planet and so on.

Does the magnetic feild of the earth also play a role. The magnetic feild in itself is an energy?

[Ladyvi]

shanti . have to think on that . something tugged the back of my brain on that.

i do know the energy produced by the magnetic pull effects everything. and magnets themselves are used in a variety of fashions. gyros use centrifical(sp) force a form of inner gravity within the tiny sphere.. the earth herself has a certain amount of this force. how this all plays together.. not sure. perhaps something to look into.

[Shanti]

shanti . have to think on that . something tugged the back of my brain on that.

i do know the energy produced by the magnetic pull effects everything. and magnets themselves are used in a variety of fashions. gyros use centrifical(sp) force a form of inner gravity within the tiny sphere.. the earth herself has a certain amount of this force. how this all plays together.. not sure. perhaps something to look into.
Thats exactly where my brain went. The magnetic feild alters and hold so much...how it affects and connections to the lines........?

What about my perspective on the water? Do you have a view to add?

[Ladyvi]

i have noticed that the huge mainmade water lines and oil pipe lines produce an energy of sorts. it isnt stable. the ley lines along with the underground rivers and streams are quite viable. yes the earth changes from time to time and so does the lines. but then so do we.

[Shanti]

i have noticed that the huge mainmade water lines and oil pipe lines produce an energy of sorts. it isnt stable. the ley lines along with the underground rivers and streams are quite viable. yes the earth changes from time to time and so does the lines. but then so do we.
I think that man made would be more restricted as it is so controlled. If it was released, as in a pipe burst, then it would disperse along with its enrgies direction. I would think that man made may be limiting for energy work because of the forced control, but I would imagine for someone it could act as a workable source.

I would prefer to work with a natural line.

[Ladyvi]

shanti so do i ... sometimes those off energies of manmade things or just negativity does come in with the other energies. spent many a night and day cleaning energy and cleansing myself simply cause of the source of it. everything produces energy in a way.. and those energies effect everything. structures can be positive or they can be negative. the theory behind feng shui and place ment to best utilize the surrounding energies to the person's best advantage to their personal chi and best transcendant of universal chi.

[Grace]

I want to thank all who have stopped to offer sources of knowledge on this subject.
Greenman, Phil, Shanti, Ladyvi, Fawawyn
and all in future ..if i left someone out I thank you too.

I send forth life's sweet wind to you .. a blessing for this day

Grace

[Ladyvi]

not sure what they are called but i have always associated those with the ley lines. if its called something else someone let me know. jargon is always in issue. this also enters in geomancy. i have just begun scratching the surface of this.

[Shanti]

Laldyvi and shanti

I saw some in the sky above the earth like tunnels.
Criscrossing all around me.. Like a geometric object..
Are they above or below or both.
Well Grace, I never saw what you saw, but if in the spiritual plane, there is no true up, down or both since direction is taken from a physical point of refferance.
Thats just how I perceive it. Others may perceive it diffeantly.

[Grace]

Well Grace, I never saw what you saw, but if in the spiritual plane, there is no true up, down or both since direction is taken from a physical point of refferance.
Thats just how I perceive it. Others may perceive it diffeantly.

Why have the ley lines been left to decay and go unused?'

[Shanti]

Why have the ley lines been left to decay and go unused?'
Who said they are left to decay and unused and how can an energy source decay, unless the cause of the source changes?

[Lunacie]

A thought on water and ley lines. Water does tend to follow certain lines, even flowing uphill at times, maybe its following the earth's ley lines? Water conducts electricity, eh, so it probably also conducts energy just as well. I agree that the energy comes from a source, not from use, so lack of use wouldn't deplete it. And these energy lines sometimes shift, leaving what may have been a prosperous business district in a city to fall into ruin while the business follows the energy flow to another part of town. (Okay, more than one thought there.:) )

[Shanti]

A thought on water and ley lines. Water does tend to follow certain lines, even flowing uphill at times, maybe its following the earth's ley lines? Water conducts electricity, eh, so it probably also conducts energy just as well. I agree that the energy comes from a source, not from use, so lack of use wouldn't deplete it. And these energy lines sometimes shift, leaving what may have been a prosperous business district in a city to fall into ruin while the business follows the energy flow to another part of town. (Okay, more than one thought there.:) )
Well the term ley lines from what I have read can be metaphysically created or, natural energy created from a natural sourse such as a water flow (underground stream) and its the flow of water that creates the ley line, and it can be used as a term for the portals to other spiritual planes. The term seems to be very broad.

[Lunacie]

Sounds like the old chicken and the egg question. Which came first, the ley line or the water flow? :)

[Ladyvi]

ley lines have been shattered and or abruptly blocked by peoples way of 'advancement and progress' a ley line may go into something akin to hybernation.
grace that maybe what you feel. it seems like decay. if you come across something like that locate and find the nearest node. you will have to follow the ley line. i recommend doing this with your mind but you can do it physically if you the time. a node will be made up of 3 or more ley lines. once you locate that. turn up the juice so to speak. but be careful how much and do it slowly at first.

the intersecting tunnels in the sky could also be travel lines of other beings you are seeing out of phase this is conjecture. it could be a couple of other things as well. you could also be seeing the web of time. ~ spreads hands out~ find out.

[Grace]

I have traveled about and I am amazed. I can only figure the knowledge of their use was put to sleep . I guess the nature of those that did this deed are unimportant.
I have an interesting thread..
I have things coming forward in my mind.. the core of the earth sends energy ..the sun.. as well
the human body has energy as well.
Nighthawk told me the body was a conduit of energy ..
The elements of the earth are also..
Now think on this..
Lunacie want to know which came first the chicken or the egg.
I want to know too.
Theory:
If the hot points are at places of worship.. Did they place them there because the ley line crossed or
did they create the ..what is it called..the conductor..that caused the ley lines to merge at certain points

I believe it to be the srtucture that caused the ley lines to converse on the point..
Stoneheadge ..place in OHIO where the Indian maybe hopi sure. ..create an area of worship
Atlantis is speculated to have a crystal that is a super conductor and some are ranting on that

All speculation.. no basis for truth..The answer is in all the websites listed in this thread
Thank you

[savannahrose44]

Ley lines are a differant thing entirely to spirit paths. Ley lines are theroried to be energy lines kinda like roads that runs all over the planet. Thats the best way I can think to put it. I would assume that ley walker would be someone who can feel these energy roads, so to speak, and travel them to where ever for whatever, but this is where all the info I find is connected to role playing games.

I would love to find info outside of RPG and comics.

I have also heard them compared to the underlying lines that cause earthquakes and volcanic erruption. It's essentially the same idea....lines of energy...only this energy is destructive in nature.