Children of Goddess???

[AngelEyes]

Okay I have a question about children of Goddess? I know that we started out some place, and I do believe that we have a connection with God's/ess'. Some we call our paents others we call our sister/brothers and Grand Parents. I call Cerridwn--Mom, Morrighan--Grandma, Morgan & Bridget---Sisters, However I was told that I am Goddess Morrighan 's Grand-daughter that Ariel Morrighan's Daughter is my mother. I have looked with the info that the internet can provide for me and I cannot find anything out about Ariel. I was told that She is not a Deity, she was a Fae and I am a Sidhe Elf I can believe that cuz I have such a strong pull to the Sidhe's. I was also told that Ariel had like 12 children. I was wondering can someone help me? I am so lost things just don't make sense to me. I am new by the way. I am like only a few yrs in my learnings. So I know that we learn new things everyday and I guess this is my learning lesson for the time. i am trying to find out where I came from and where I fit in. The person that told me of this I asked him these very questions and all he told me was to meditate, I would but my attention is so off the wall that to focus is NOT good :collapse: , but try. So I thought I would ask you kins people for some help. I am so greatful for anything I may find...Thank you all for your time and help....

~~Goddess Bless~~
Angie :flowers:

[Faeawyn]

Ok...well, first I think we need to know who told you this?

[Ron]

*giggles* granny Morrighan lol

[Seren_]

Ariel is Shakespeare isn't it? The Tempest.

The name seems to be Hebrew, -el meaning "of God". I'm not sure how this could relate to the Morrigan or the sidhe, or Ceridwen for that matter...And as I recall Ariel was definitely male in the Tempest. But anyway...

It depends on where you're getting this information. If someone is telling you this, then personally I'd be sceptical; people who come out with this kind of thing tend to be the people you should run a mile from (but that's just my experience). How can this person know more about you, than you?

Perhaps you could elaborate a little more on what you're having problems with. You're identity in general, or what you've been told?

Och...I think I'm confusing myself here, but it is nearly 3am.

[AngelEyes]

No you are right I should check into what this person had to say. I know I had asked him questions and he could not answer them so I knew there was something fishy there. But like Isaid I was just asking it really doesn't hurt to ask and boy do I feel SHEEPISH. But I guess there is another lesson learned you can't believe everything people tell you right? I am sorry for being a pest here but I was only asking, now I will turn with my head low and go back to my corner where I belong.......I am sooooo sorry.....but thank you for your help...

Goddess Bless
Angel

[Theres]

I am sorry for being a pest here but I was only asking, now I will turn with my head low and go back to my corner where I belong.......I am sooooo sorry.....but thank you for your help...
oh come on now, there's no need for that. this forum exists for this exact purpose... learning and teaching.
so you've now been given two distinct points of view, Seren's and whoever told you the stuff in your original post. it's up to you to decide which is of more value, but you wouldn't even have that option if you had remained quiet, or "turned your head and gone back to your corner".
don't be afraid to ask your questions here. you may get a few smartass replies, but if you sift through them you just might find a jem of wisdom here or there.

[Faeawyn]

Greenman is right. There are no stupid questions here.....This is a place of teaching and learning. But just like anything else....you need to take anything said to you with a grain of salt....and by asking enough questions, you'll weed out your truth :)

[Phi]

The -EL is an ancient term with a complex etymology & a common origen with many other ancient words in other languages.

Sumerian: EL bright or shining
Akkadian ILU radiant one
Babylonian ELLU shining one
Old Welsh ELLU shining being
Old Irish AILLIL shining
English ELF shining being
Anglo-Saxon AELF radiant being
Hebrew ELOHIM god, or God

Arael is the angel of birds...
Ariel means "lion of God" in Hebrew, and is a rather common name for little boys and little girls even to this day. My former neighbor 's 2 year old son is named Ariel. (Family is Christian, not Jewish.) Since the name has been used for females and for males for centuries, I see no reason why someone named Ariel could not have had 12 children... In the Old Testament it is used as another name for the city of Jerusalem. Shakespeare used it as the name of a spirit in his play 'The Tempest'. It is also borne by one of the moons of Uranus.

I thought it would be interesting to see that the same root is used in so many languages, and that the root is used for gods, angels, and, with an "f" ending, for elves as well...simply because it means "shining."

As for Goddess' origin...I suppose you mean earliest historic references to Her? Look up Nammu. There are also many female goddesses in India, but as far as records of an all-powerful in-the-beginning type belief, Nammu and Innana are, I think, the earliest of record.
http://www.cddc.vt.edu/feminism/Enheduanna.html, and probably predate any historical record of those names for Goddess you mention. I suppose this is not what you are seeking, exactly, but it might be a great start in your learning.
I hope I have helped you in some small way...

[Seren_]

No you are right I should check into what this person had to say. I know I had asked him questions and he could not answer them so I knew there was something fishy there. But like Isaid I was just asking it really doesn't hurt to ask and boy do I feel SHEEPISH. But I guess there is another lesson learned you can't believe everything people tell you right? I am sorry for being a pest here but I was only asking, now I will turn with my head low and go back to my corner where I belong.......I am sooooo sorry.....but thank you for your help...

Goddess Bless
Angel

Greenman and Faeawyn are right. It's not a stupid question, it's a very sensible one that you've asked! And like Greenman said, I've just given an opinion. If I sounded a bit harsh, I didn't mean to :bigredblu Honest.

[Seren_]

The -EL is an ancient term with a complex etymology & a common origen with many other ancient words in other languages.

Sumerian: EL bright or shining
Akkadian ILU radiant one
Babylonian ELLU shining one
Old Welsh ELLU shining being
Old Irish AILLIL shining
English ELF shining being
Anglo-Saxon AELF radiant being
Hebrew ELOHIM god, or God

Arael is the angel of birds...
Ariel means "lion of God" in Hebrew, and is a rather common name for little boys and little girls even to this day. My former neighbor 's 2 year old son is named Ariel. (Family is Christian, not Jewish.) Since the name has been used for females and for males for centuries, I see no reason why someone named Ariel could not have had 12 children... In the Old Testament it is used as another name for the city of Jerusalem. Shakespeare used it as the name of a spirit in his play 'The Tempest'. It is also borne by one of the moons of Uranus.

I thought it would be interesting to see that the same root is used in so many languages, and that the root is used for gods, angels, and, with an "f" ending, for elves as well...simply because it means "shining."


Wow. Thanks for that, Phi. :D

[Phi]

Yer very welcome..:thumbsup:

Also, as to the origin of Goddess...I suppose you might mean the earliest-extant in historical records- name?
In Eastern religions, such as India, China, Japan, there are many females that date to very early history, but the earliest that I know of that gives an understanding of Goddess as the creatrix, there from the beginning, all powerful is Nammu, the primordial deep, found in the ancient religion of a people referred to as Sumerian. Inanna and her counterpart/alter ego Nanna were the manifestations of the Nammu. (There are also other lesser gods and goddesses in that pantheon) The story of Gilgamesh is predated by the writings here, I think:
http://www.cddc.vt.edu/feminism/Enheduanna.html
Hope this helps too

[Theres]

Greenman is right. There are no stupid questions here...
oh, i didn't say that! 8O
but every question needs an answer, whether they get one or not.

[Tzaolunyin]

It depends on where you're getting this information. If someone is telling you this, then personally I'd be sceptical; people who come out with this kind of thing tend to be the people you should run a mile from (but that's just my experience). How can this person know more about you, than you?

I agree. Anyone who tells you this sort of thing is, in my experience, either trying to sell you a bill of goods, trying to get you to join some sort of fringe group, or trying to make themselves seem special or knowledgable...... or just having a laugh at your expense.

"Who told me this?" That's the most important question to ask.