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LadyTrinity
July 19th, 2004, 07:35 AM
I was watching Ripleys believe it or not this morning and they featured a real witch torture tool! It was a metal stick with a metal collar that had spikes.. and they would lock the collar around the accused's neck. If the "Witch" struggled.. the spikes would jab her throat. The stick is like 1 1/2 meters long because they believe to come near the witch could bring certain death. Hmmm.. Big meanies!!!!!!! :shaker:

sweet nothings
July 19th, 2004, 07:38 AM
youch...I've seen those before...but I'm sure they used those to torture others that wern't witches...they enjoyed torturing so much in the past...

Tullip Troll
July 19th, 2004, 07:43 AM
kinda scary what people can do to each other and get away with.

It's really sad to think that as a child we can cry because we stepped on a cricket and killed it...or cry because we lost a family pet. Cry because your crying etc...then we grow up and torture people inflicting as mush pain as we can. How is it possible to watch someone suffer like that. What are we doing that teaches children to stop feeling.

The real evil are the people doing this. What's really scary it's not just history...it still happens.

MheraPai

Holly Ariadna
July 19th, 2004, 07:57 AM
Yup, it does, last year a man was accused of trying to do "exorcism" on his daughters & nieces, among other things he put olive oil in their eyes!

And about the ways of torture in the past... I did a research on them for a presentation at school, it really is horrible.

LadyTrinity
July 19th, 2004, 08:06 AM
:foh: Wow!

FaerieGothMommy
July 19th, 2004, 10:48 AM
I seen something similar when we visited Warwickshire castle, they have a torture chamber there and have the original torture devices they used.

One was a metal thing they strapped to your foot or shin and it had spikes on, if they put it on your shin they'd made you crawl.

PAGANFILES
July 19th, 2004, 02:36 PM
The simpliest and cruelest, in my opinon, came even before the word witch was coined. It was used many places, because of its simplicity, to attain confessions from those accused of doing magickal damage to others and also to people accused of mundane crime. The person would be placed in a water deep enough to come to their chin--cisterns were sometimes used. Their arms were bound behind them and their ankles together. The cruelest thing is that, depending on the interrogater, in cases involving Magick, drowning could prove innocence.

Terry

Antoninus
July 19th, 2004, 06:28 PM
That was NOTHING compared to some of the tortures. They had metal chairs with spikes on them, the accused would sit in the chair and a fire would be lit under the chair to compel the witch to confess. Hence the term "light a fire under his butt" to motivate someone.

Annother favorite of the witch torturers was the "Strappado". A large weight was secured to the suspected witche's feet and the person was left to dangle by his/her hands which were tied with rope. The person was then winched up and then allowed to drop down a foot or so, jerking the weight down and ripping the shoulders from the sockets.

A less well known method employed mice. A large metal bowl was placed over a person's stomach, chest, or back and under it were placed several mice. A torch was held against the bowl to heat up the bowl and the mice would litterally burrow through the person trying to escape

By far the most painful was to be "broken on the wheel". The personwould be tied to a wagon wheel, then they would then be pummelled with a blunt weapon. The breaker's objective was to shatter as many bones as possible without killing. The person would then be left in a twisted mass to bleed to death. His remains might then be carried around the town, still tied to the wheel, as a warning to the citizenry.

Doesnt that just make you want to run right out and have lunch :)

*Ahem* Sorry, morbid interests

RhiannynWildseed
July 19th, 2004, 06:44 PM
Oh let's not forget the Press that was used in France. A wooden contraption fitted with movable slats in between which were placed your arms and legs. They would pound wedges between the slats forcing them to come together. The bigger the wedges, the closer together the slats got. Whatever was between those slats more often than not hand a tendency to.......explode. And this whole contraption was tilted at an angle so that the gathered crowd could see all the action.

And then there were the needles they used to test for witches spots...spots that were supposed to be impervious to pain that were said to be portals where demons could go in and out. They forced these needles through all different parts of the body to try and prove that the accused were hosts to demons.

:geez: Only humans, huh?

Rhiannyn

Antoninus
July 19th, 2004, 06:47 PM
Ah yes the prods. They would apply a particularly brutal method of torture to a "witch" then prod him/her to see if they had any non-sensitive spots. Usually the person was too dazed to feel the prick, which was taken as a sure sign they were a witch.

RhiannynWildseed
July 19th, 2004, 06:51 PM
Yep, yep. The body just reaches that point where it can't take anymore and shuts down, but of course, that just meant you were guilty. Didn't you just love the reasoning back then?

Rhiannyn

LadyTrinity
July 19th, 2004, 09:34 PM
:sick:

Romani Vixen
July 19th, 2004, 09:48 PM
there were a great number of tools and techniques used. I'm quite happy that they aren't any more. And I try not to actually feel the pain when I look at the pictures... I've seen lots of pictures of the impliments...

and yeah... Iron Maden isn't just a band.

NivekDrgnMage
July 19th, 2004, 10:42 PM
Lets not forget the worst one of all!!! to horrid to think of!


Tied to a chair and forced to watch 48 hours and non stop of the "The Brady Bunch"



:falloffch :rotfl: :falloffch

PoetryInDespair
July 19th, 2004, 11:07 PM
Is it the Chinese water torture when water drips on the persons face? I remember hearing about but I wasn't paying much attention to the teacher.

Antoninus
July 20th, 2004, 12:58 AM
Is it the Chinese water torture when water drips on the persons face? I remember hearing about but I wasn't paying much attention to the teacher.
Yes, it would eventually bore a hole through the person's forehead or drive them insane. They also had the Chinese Paper Torture. If youve ever seen Fled, they werent making that up. They took a thin metal blade and made thousands of tiny paper cuts all over your body. In Mongolia, people were sometimes executed by pouring molten metal (usually silver) into thier eyes and throat.

Sounds like fun doesnt it :)

FaerySong
July 20th, 2004, 01:02 AM
They had alot of horrid [yet genious.. in a morbid way..] torture methods and equipment back then. And its sickening to think that they actually used it on thousands of people.

Antoninus
July 20th, 2004, 01:03 AM
Thats not sickening at all. Pfft.

The sickening part is that many people felt the tortures were too humane and wanted more painful tortures to be implimented.

Holly Ariadna
July 20th, 2004, 06:21 AM
:foh: Wow!

Yup... Gotta say I agree there!

Tullip Troll
July 20th, 2004, 06:29 AM
It's not all over..in some parts of this world people are still tortured..maybe not for being a "witch" but things just as inocent.

I am amazed at how much power we give to people who are so cold and dead inside.

MheraPai