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alesay
July 26th, 2004, 06:17 PM
Hey all! I'm asking to see if anyone has any more information on Camulus. We know he's a Roman Celtic War god. And that a place (forgive me, i don't remember what..) is named after him. There is very little information that we can find online that pretains to him. We know little about his "Invisible Sword" But if you guys could help me out, point me in a direction to go... That would be great! :D

Love and Blessings!

ancestral_lee
July 26th, 2004, 08:29 PM
Hey all! I'm asking to see if anyone has any more information on Camulus. We know he's a Roman Celtic War god. And that a place (forgive me, i don't remember what..) is named after him. There is very little information that we can find online that pretains to him. We know little about his "Invisible Sword" But if you guys could help me out, point me in a direction to go... That would be great! :D

Love and Blessings!

the place could be Camulodinum? never heard of him before though, is he roman, celtic or an amalgam of both? invisible sword eh? where have you heard about that? did it give any other info?

PAGANFILES
July 26th, 2004, 08:39 PM
Camulus: Of the invincible sword; the name signifies
"heaven";god of war and sky; akin to mars, only more savage.

All I have at the moment
Terry

alesay
July 26th, 2004, 08:56 PM
HAHA thanks guys. And yup, it's Camulodinum, or at least i'm pretty sure. I'm really looking for my brother. Who's done the majority of the research. But he's getting really frustrated because he isn't finding to much more than what has been mentioned ;) as far as i know, he's "roman celtic" That's what the information he's found online says... I still appriciate any help! :D thanks for replying

Seren_
July 27th, 2004, 12:17 PM
Hey all! I'm asking to see if anyone has any more information on Camulus. We know he's a Roman Celtic War god. And that a place (forgive me, i don't remember what..) is named after him. There is very little information that we can find online that pretains to him. We know little about his "Invisible Sword" But if you guys could help me out, point me in a direction to go... That would be great! :D

Love and Blessings!

From http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Rbgods.htm

Mars Camulus

Bar Hill: altar by cohors I Hamiorum (formerly read as II [Au]g(usta)). RIB 2166

London: monumental slab by Tiberinius Celebrianus, cives Bellovacorum(?) and moritix (shipper?) of Londiniensium (‘London [products?]). Found Tabard Street, Southwark, autumn 2002 (with Numina Augustorum).

More info on Bar Hill: http://www.roman-britain.org/places/bar_hill.htm#rib2166

I think the only known altar to him is at Bar Hill on the Antonine wall, although he might be more widely known in Gaul as well (I'm not a Gaulish expert, so I'm not sure how accurate that it). He apparently lends his name to the town of Camulodunum, the first in Britain to have fallen to the Romans; this is modern day Colchester.

He became conflated with the Roman God Mars, suggesting they had similar attributes. Mars was also a very popular deity.

I have to say, I've never heard of the invisible sword thing, so I can't help you there. Keep us posted.

:)

Kadynas
August 2nd, 2004, 03:20 AM
:lol: Stargate SG-1 just had a goa'uld character named Camulus! (The goa'uld are nasty aliens that take human hosts and use take on the attributes and names of humanities gods in an attempt to enslave them. :lol: )

But before that, I'd never heard of him either. :)

alesay
August 2nd, 2004, 03:43 AM
HAHAHA right on!!! That's funny.... but hey, thanks for the comparison! :D

Nantonos
August 2nd, 2004, 02:17 PM
From http://www.romanbritain.freeserve.co.uk/Rbgods.htm

Mars Camulus

Bar Hill: altar by cohors I Hamiorum (formerly read as II [Au]g(usta)). RIB 2166

Yup. RIB, for those that don't know, is a listing of all the (roman period) Latin inscriptions in Britain. The Roman Britain site that Seren_ points to is well worth exploring, by the way.

London: monumental slab by Tiberinius Celebrianus, cives Bellovacorum(?) and moritix (shipper?) of Londiniensium (‘London [products?]). Found Tabard Street, Southwark, autumn 2002 (with Numina Augustorum).

Yup again. Those are the only two Camulos inscriptions in Britain that I know of. The report I saw on the recently discovered (October 2002) London plaque had a slightly different inscription:

"To the spirits of the emperors (and) the God Mars Camulos, Tiberinius Celerianus, ranking moritex of the (traders) of London, (set this up)"
http://web.orange.co.uk/news/story/sm_687993.html

I haven't seen the original Latin text yet. Its dated to around the year 150.

I think the only known altar to him is at Bar Hill on the Antonine wall,

Well, its the only altar in Britain, as the other one is a dedicatory plaque (such as might be displayed on the wall of a temple) rather than an altar.

although he might be more widely known in Gaul as well (I'm not a Gaulish expert, so I'm not sure how accurate that it).

Yes, more widely known in Gaul and the Germainies (ie, the militarised buffer zone between Gaul and the river Rhine). Here is the listing from L'Arbre Celtique, a list prepared by the French archaeologist Patrice Lejoy. It omits the London inscription (too recent) so I have added it.

Arlon, Belgium: Mars Camulos
Bar Hill, Dumbarton, UK: Mars Camulos
Kruishoutern, Belgium: Mars Camulos
London, UK: Mars Camulos
Mainz, Germany: Mars Camulos
Reims, Marne, France: Mars Camulos
Rindern, Germany: Mars Camulos
Rome, Italy: Camulos, Arduinna, Mercury, Iuppiter, Hercules
Solin, Croatia: Mars? Camulos, Iuppiter Optimus Maximus, Epona


http://www.arbre-celtique.com/approfondissements/divinites/inventaire-div/div_liste.php?nomdiv=Camulos
(That site is in French. But its easy to read the tables and use the form, don't be put off).

He apparently lends his name to the town of Camulodunum, the first in Britain to have fallen to the Romans; this is modern day Colchester.

lHe became conflated with the Roman God Mars, suggesting they had similar attributes. Mars was also a very popular deity.

Yes, in most inscriptions Camulos is conflated with Mars. The only one where he is not is in Italy, although I suspect the dedicant was from the Ardennes forest on the modern German/French border. That is because the goddess Arduinna was the goddess of the Ardennes, where they get their name in fact.

Nantonos
August 2nd, 2004, 02:25 PM
Hey all! I'm asking to see if anyone has any more information on Camulus. We know he's a Roman Celtic War god. And that a place (forgive me, i don't remember what..) is named after him. There is very little information that we can find online that pretains to him. We know little about his "Invisible Sword" But if you guys could help me out, point me in a direction to go... That would be great! :D

Love and Blessings!

I suspect that info came from a site lacking in historical details.

I found one such (offline now, but in google cache)
http://www.google.fr/search?q=cache:sMd2vdBYKQAJ:community.webtv.net/Ultimateloser/GaelicDeities+Epona+Camulos&hl=en

Camulos
Camulos (Camulus) was a Romano-Celtic god of war. The Romans associated Camulos with Mars (Ares), the Roman god of war.
Though, a British city Camulodunum (Colchester, in Essex) was named after Camulos, Camulos was the tribal god of the Remi, a Gallic tribe living in Belgium.
The wild boar was his symbol. Camulos was said to have wield an invincible sword.

It says invincible, not invisible, but I am suspicius of it anyway because we have so little info on Camulos, carvings and inscriptions; I suspect the invincible sword is made up. (Happy to be proved wrong if anyone has further info).

Camulos wasn't just a god of thre Remi, either, despite what that site claims, and Reims is in France, not in Belgium.

Seren_
August 2nd, 2004, 02:56 PM
Well, its the only altar in Britain, as the other one is a dedicatory plaque (such as might be displayed on the wall of a temple) rather than an altar.
.

:D Which is what me and my British brain meant, of course....