Walk-ins

[IndigoRat]

I thought I had posted something in here about this before, but I can't find anything so i'm assuming not. If I did then..sorry. :x

But does anyone have any stories/experiences to share about walk-ins? Anything would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm not interested in informational websites but rather personal stories about it.

Thanks!

[Isa]

Hmmm.... what exactly do you mean 'Walk-ins' might I ask? XD

[Tea Leaf]

"walk in"... They are some kind of spiritual being that comes and takes soul of people who are about to suffer unspeakable torment.... I think...?

[Boogins]

No, a walk-in is a soul that enters a body because the original soul has left it for some reason. I am a walk-in. Long story. Too long for a post, but let's just say I came to be here when the body was fourteen, after the former occupant "died" of encephalitis (swelling of the brain).

[Isa]

No, a walk-in is a soul that enters a body because the original soul has left it for some reason. I am a walk-in. Long story. Too long for a post, but let's just say I came to be here when the body was fourteen, after the former occupant "died" of encephalitis (swelling of the brain).

O.o Wow....

Well then I imagine you'd be "for" the concept XD

[Boogins]

Yeah, you could say that. :D

[Ron]

I'm never considered the concept. It's very possible and probable by my beliefs. :)


No, a walk-in is a soul that enters a body because the original soul has left it for some reason. I am a walk-in. Long story. Too long for a post, but let's just say I came to be here when the body was fourteen, after the former occupant "died" of encephalitis (swelling of the brain).
You don't think you could share your story with me? I'm really interested. :fprisoner If you dun wanna it's okay :)

[Erebus]

Opinion:
"Walk-in" is a fantastic way to spiritualize psychological dissasociation due to extreme trauma. "I don't remember anything about my childhood... no, I don't have repressed memories of abuse! I'm a walk-in!"

[Bec_W]

Boogin's I'd be really interested to hear your experience if you willing to share (no probs if your not).

I've never heard of "walk ins" I've heard of souls who attach themselves to another body (one that already has a soul) but not this.

[Grey]

*shakes head* Try doing regressive hypnosis with a true walk in and you wont find it... trauma you will. thats the most presise way to tell though Im sure there is some cross over somewhere.

[IndigoRat]

No, a walk-in is a soul that enters a body because the original soul has left it for some reason. I am a walk-in. Long story. Too long for a post, but let's just say I came to be here when the body was fourteen, after the former occupant "died" of encephalitis (swelling of the brain).

I'd also love to hear your story, but if you don't want to share that's alright. I'm going through an interesting experience right now and anybody else's experience would really help me.

[Erebus]

*shakes head* Try doing regressive hypnosis with a true walk in and you wont find it... trauma you will. thats the most presise way to tell though Im sure there is some cross over somewhere.

Bingo!

In all my experience with death, I've never seen a soul leave a body that was healthy enough to make a full recovery. Old folks in comas, yes. The soul gets fed up before the body dies. Very young babies aren't really all that connected to their bodies yet in the first place.

Do walk-ins have mystical curative powers that allow a body that was on death's door make a full recovery? Because I've never seen a soul abandon ship before the ship starts seriously sinking.

[Boogins]

*shakes head* Try doing regressive hypnosis with a true walk in and you wont find it... trauma you will. thats the most presise way to tell though Im sure there is some cross over somewhere.
Been there, done that. The original is gone. It was an abusive household, and I got my share in my (our) later teens. But I was not involved earlier. The regressive hypsnosis was performed by a much admired and award-winning psychologist/researcher at the Foothills Hospital in Calgary. Sorry, Grey, and sorry, Erebus. I am what I am.

[Llewyth]

Which is all you need to be!

I used to channel entities. Is that a walk-in?

[Deranged Hermit]

*shakes head* Try doing regressive hypnosis with a true walk in and you wont find it... trauma you will. thats the most presise way to tell though Im sure there is some cross over somewhere.

Um, I interpreted this to mean that you can tell the difference between a true walk-in and someone with repressed memories through hypnosis. I don't think Grey was saying there are no true walk-ins. If I'm wrong, hopefully he'll say so.

And Boo, I've always wanted to hear your story.
:weirdsmil

[Boogins]

:lol: Looks like I'm cornered!

Actually, it's pretty simple. The first thing I literally recall was a classic near-death experience (except what I identified as me doesn't look anything like me now). I was in a sort of cylindrical tunnel, but there were white lights at either end, and colored lights all the way along; I was quite annoyed, recall thinking I was enjoying the movie (?), and finally started wandering over to one of the white lights. My short journey was interrupted by a male voice, with a flat Manchester, England-type accent, which informed me, "You're going the wrong way."

There was a short period of blackness...

I woke up in a hospital room with monitors going off all around me. Wel, that was when I opened my eyes: before that, I heard the five doctors who now came rushing into my room discussing how to tell my parents that I'd died, and that this was a good thing, seeing that I'd have been a vegetable if I hadn't expired. During this discussion, they had also mentioned having to write the time of death on the charts: one doctor noted, "Forty-seven minutes ago." (That's right--I was flat-lined for forty-seven minutes.) That got me annoyed again. And so I opened my eyes and started thrashing.

Now that I wasn't dead, the problems began. For one thing, I discovered I was in Canada; my "parents" discovered I had a thick, Brixton English accent, and that the movie I had been watching had been an old Gene Tierney hankie pic from just after the war! But it had been new to me at the time. As days and weeks and months went past, everyone who had known the prior occupant discovered she'd had a complete change of personality: that her avowed interest in the hard sciences had suddenly shifted to the arts (and that she could render photorealistically when she couldn't even draw before), that her old friends found her alien and her sense of humor downright weird, and that she was fast developing as a manic-depressive (a runs-in-the-family disorder that didn't run in the family).

Heck, my dog growled at me when they took me home.

Eventually, time saw me lose most of the British accent, but with every day that passed, it became more evident that these people I lived with as a sister and daughter were utterly unrelated to me. It was far more than different sets of memories. They became steadily more and more hostile towards me when we couldn't bridge the gap; and these days we're completely estranged.

I'm sorry for their loss. But I'm here and I don't seem to be going anywhere. I don't want to! I'm having a good time.

[Aine of the Fae]

This conversation has sparked my interest just a bit. I literally have no memories before the age of 13. And from 13 to about 16 or 17 it's very, very fuzzy. I've had people tell me that you "lose memory with age" but I'm only 25 and even when I was 14 I can remember my stepmother saying how "sad" it was that I couldn't remember my childhood. I "know" things about my childhood, but those come from pictures and memory books, not from actual memories. I might just have to explore this topic some more.

[Erebus]

It was an abusive household

*makes a little tally mark on a chalkboard under "correct guesses" and wanders out of the thread*

[Boogins]

*makes a little tally mark on a chalkboard under "correct guesses" and wanders out of the thread*
You didn't read all of what I wrote before you left, dear.

[Ben Trismegistus]

Interesting story Boogins.

Being raised in a household of psychologists (fun, I know), it sounds like dissociation or multiple-personality disorder to me. Of course, given that I'd never heard of walk-ins before, there seems to be no reason to me why it couldn't be either one, creating the same set of symptoms.

Or rather, if you postulate that every personality in a person with MPD has its own soul, where do those souls come from?

[Boogins]

*Eep*... talk about the problems of overpopulation!

[Bec_W]

That reminds me of a little girl I saw on TV once who was born dead and after about hour came to life.

[Boogins]

Interesting story Boogins.

Being raised in a household of psychologists (fun, I know), it sounds like dissociation or multiple-personality disorder to me. Of course, given that I'd never heard of walk-ins before, there seems to be no reason to me why it couldn't be either one, creating the same set of symptoms.

Or rather, if you postulate that every personality in a person with MPD has its own soul, where do those souls come from?
Thank you, Ben. I appreciate your open-mindedness, especially with your background.

I'm very familiar with MPD or dissociation, having researched both quite thoroughly for works of fiction, and unless one spontaneously emerged while at the same time the original receded to nothing, I just can't see it. In particular, my drawing and painting skills (check out "Merry Moot" in my sig) were instantly in play; it takes years of practice for that type of talent to be properly nurtured, and my predecessor had never even been seen to sketch. I really do believe I am a walk-in; it's really the only theory that makes sense to me.

[Seren_]

Boogins, have you ever read the K-Pax series?

[Boogins]

No, I haven't--but I've seen the movie. :D

[Khuinaset]

That's a really interesting story Boogins! Do you mind me asking a few questions? You said you were flat-lining for 47 minutes, and I asked my mom and dad about that(they both work in a hospital, my dad in x-ray and my mom works in cardiac rehab); my mom said that she's heard of cases where people were revived after an hour of having no heart activity if they were submerged in cold water or something similar, or were having constant revival(er...CPR and such...didn't know how to put that, sorry) efforts, do you know if people were or not? just something I was curious about. and it was pretty brave of you to share on a public forum, if you don't mind my saying so. :)

[Klucky]

*makes a little tally mark on a chalkboard under "correct guesses" and wanders out of the thread*

Hey, I have a chalkboard entitled "giving people the benefit of the doubt." Try and put a check under that one instead.

-Klucky

[Boogins]

That's a really interesting story Boogins! Do you mind me asking a few questions? You said you were flat-lining for 47 minutes, and I asked my mom and dad about that(they both work in a hospital, my dad in x-ray and my mom works in cardiac rehab); my mom said that she's heard of cases where people were revived after an hour of having no heart activity if they were submerged in cold water or something similar, or were having constant revival(er...CPR and such...didn't know how to put that, sorry) efforts, do you know if people were or not? just something I was curious about. and it was pretty brave of you to share on a public forum, if you don't mind my saying so. :)
Nope, I was just dead in a bed--apparently they never tried rescusitation on the assumption that the body was already brain-dead. So there the body lay until I woke up in it. Big surprise to me, I'll tell you!

And Klucks... good one! :hugz:

[Klucky]

And Klucks... good one! :hugz:

Well, I try. :) :hugz:

Personally, I've never heard of this "walk-in" stuff before, but it sounds interesting. Is it a well known occurance or not?

-Klucky

[Romani Vixen]

not sure.... Interesting though!!!

[Boogins]

Well, I try. :) :hugz:

Personally, I've never heard of this "walk-in" stuff before, but it sounds interesting. Is it a well known occurance or not?

-Klucky
I guess well enough that it has a name. I'm the only one I know of personally, though.

[Khuinaset]

Nope, I was just dead in a bed--apparently they never tried rescusitation on the assumption that the body was already brain-dead. So there the body lay until I woke up in it. Big surprise to me, I'll tell you!

I bet it was a big surprise for them too! :lol: So...correct me if I'm wrong...(sorry, trying to get everything straight), under normal circumstances you should have had very severe brain damage, correct? That is really interesting... *goes off to find more information* I'd never heard of it before this either. How'd you find out where the accent was from? or, specifically...although I don't know if a Brixton accent is a generic English accent or not, I just figured it was a particular region or something.

[Klucky]

So in a way is it kind of like reincarnation, only not at the beginning of a body's life?

-Klucky

[WandererInGray]

*hugs* Thanks for sharing that with us Boogins. :D I've always wanted to ask you about it but didn't know if it was pushing something you weren't comfortable sharing.

[Boogins]

I bet it was a big surprise for them too! :lol: So...correct me if I'm wrong...(sorry, trying to get everything straight), under normal circumstances you should have had very severe brain damage, correct? That is really interesting... *goes off to find more information* I'd never heard of it before this either. How'd you find out where the accent was from? or, specifically...although I don't know if a Brixton accent is a generic English accent or not, I just figured it was a particular region or something.
Brixton is a district in south London--where all the riots happen these days. :rolleyes: How I found out is by going there--I ran around Europe a lot in my twenties with my band. :) And yes, I should have had very severe brain damage.

That sounds like a pretty good description, Klucks. :)

[IndigoRat]

Did you/do you have any recollection of who you were prior? Rather it be past lives or otherwise?

[Boogins]

Did you/do you have any recollection of who you were prior? Rather it be past lives or otherwise?
I remember being in the theater, watching the hankie movie (which is a very old-fashioned expression, when I think of it) with my mother, two sisters, and older brother... I recall looking in his face, and he handed me something... I have the odd impression something happened to the theater, but that's it.

[Aine of the Fae]

This has been a very intersting discussion. I looked over some info on walk-ins online, and while it's very interesting and I believe the experiences that the people have, I don't think that's my problem :D I'm stuck with the same soul I've had this entire life, but.... this mind's got some serious, serious issues that my psychologist is having a wonderful, wonderful time exploring....

[Sylvan]

On first glance at the topic, I'd have said BS and not looked back in.

But Boogins, you have a very interesting story there.

I don't know what I think now.

As for me, I don't recall alot of my childhood either, but I do remember enough to convince me that I was there for it! :lol:

[Khuinaset]

Brixton is a district in south London--where all the riots happen these days. :rolleyes: How I found out is by going there--I ran around Europe a lot in my twenties with my band. :) And yes, I should have had very severe brain damage.

That sounds like a pretty good description, Klucks. :)

Sounds like you're a medical miracle then :) Thanks for answering all my questions and for being kind about it!

[Aine of the Fae]

On first glance at the topic, I'd have said BS and not looked back in.

But Boogins, you have a very interesting story there.

I don't know what I think now.

As for me, I don't recall alot of my childhood either, but I do remember enough to convince me that I was there for it! :lol:

My problem, and the problem of many others, is that they DON'T recall enough to know they were there for it.

From what I'm reading with walk-ins, there is very often a dramatic and permanent change in personality, habits, talents and the such. There is a definitive difference in the before and after, whereas psychological conditions tend to be much more gradual.

[Cinnamon Girl]

I remember being in the theater, watching the hankie movie (which is a very old-fashioned expression, when I think of it) with my mother, two sisters, and older brother... I recall looking in his face, and he handed me something... I have the odd impression something happened to the theater, but that's it.

I'm just trying to make sure I have this straight in my head, so forgive me if any of my questions come across as impertinent, as they're not meant to be.

If your soul took over your current body, wouldn't something have to have happened (i.e. death) to your prior body? Is this what you mean by 'something happened to the theater' (i.e. an explosion or fire that killed the occupants)?

Do you have any memories of this other life besides that one of being at the movies? When you were travelling in England, did you ever have flashes of memory or that deja vu feeling? Have you ever tried to research that life?

It is a very intriguing concept - one that I haven't heard of before. But it seems as plausible a possibility to me as any other!

:)

[Boogins]

I'm just trying to make sure I have this straight in my head, so forgive me if any of my questions come across as impertinent, as they're not meant to be.

If your soul took over your current body, wouldn't something have to have happened (i.e. death) to your prior body? Is this what you mean by 'something happened to the theater' (i.e. an explosion or fire that killed the occupants)?

Do you have any memories of this other life besides that one of being at the movies? When you were travelling in England, did you ever have flashes of memory or that deja vu feeling? Have you ever tried to research that life?

It is a very intriguing concept - one that I haven't heard of before. But it seems as plausible a possibility to me as any other!

:)
That's exactly what I believe happened--I died in the theater. Last I was in England, I walked through Brixton alone--a dangerous thing to do at the best of times--and recognized many places, although I sensed they'd been fixed up considerably after the war; and I wound up standing in front of a house (here we'd call it rowhousing), staring, knowing this was my home... and though I knocked, I got no answer.

I had the strangest feeling my brother would have answered the door--gods, he'd be in his middle sixties now! and yet I swear I would have known him instantly. I often wonder if somehow he would have known me.

[Boogins]

*makes a little tally mark on a chalkboard under "correct guesses" and wanders out of the thread*
Now I understand why I always think of you as "Error-bus". :)

[Arinya]

That's exactly what I believe happened--I died in the theater. Last I was in England, I walked through Brixton alone--a dangerous thing to do at the best of times--and recognized many places, although I sensed they'd been fixed up considerably after the war; and I wound up standing in front of a house (here we'd call it rowhousing), staring, knowing this was my home... and though I knocked, I got no answer.

I had the strangest feeling my brother would have answered the door--gods, he'd be in his middle sixties now! and yet I swear I would have known him instantly. I often wonder if somehow he would have known me.

If you were able to, do you think you'd try to track down your old family?
and..
Are walk-ins a rare occurance? Do you know why they happen in some cases (like yours) but not in so many others? This is indeed an interesting topic and thank you for sharing Boogins!

[Boogins]

I don't know if it's a common thing, or even what the purpose is; I do know I've always felt I personally had a purpose, and maybe that's the point, for me to fulfil my purpose after having been cut off prematurely before.

I don't know that I would try to track down my family. It seems to me I'd be re-playing my arrival here, and discovering how alien I was to this family, all over again. My mother (the one in the theater) is undoubtedly dead; my brother and sisters are senior citizens. Then along comes punky little Kass saying, "Hi! I'm your sister all over again!"

I don't think so. Bad enough to be completely rejected once.

[morrigen]

When I was a teenager, I came across a fairly famous study of a little boy who was a walk-in.

I don't remember much, other than that he was 4 or 5, and fell into a pond, annd was miraculously revived long after he should have drowned.. He had no memory of the days and weeks of his life, but was able to identify streets and houses in pictuures of a country he had never been in before, and details of someone else's life. His parents swore he was not the childd they knew...he was not their son.

I wish I could remember more...and I'd love to know how he went as he grew up.

And Boog...I'm a bit like WIG...I've been wanting to know more, but didn't want to intrude. Thanks for sharing your story sweetie...:hugz:

[Boogins]

You're welcome, Morrigen, Wiggie, and everyone! :hugz:

[Isa]

And yes, I should have had very severe brain damage.


Now I'm sure that you've researched all possibilities thoroughly before this but ... you do realize that brain damage can cause all of the things you've described (loss of memory, radical change in personality, etc)? Scores of cases have been documented about False Memory Syndrome, though not necessarily connected to brain damage it is rather easy for the mind to produce a completely convincing false memory. Have any tests been run since the incident? (a CAT scan or an MRI for example?) I know from personal experience that if you appear to be high/normal functioning very often doctors/insurance companies will refuse to perform those tests even if there's an extremely high chance there's something wrong. It's the 'if it aint broke don't poke it' medical philosophy XD

I also know from personal experience that the effects of such problems can be extremely convincing. I get these powerful feelings of deja vu from time to time in which I'm not only SURE I've seen myself in this position before but I can actually remember waking up from the dream that gave me these glimpses of my future and thoughts I must have had about the vision. The problem with this is if you had asked me 30 seconds before about such a "dream" I would have no idea what you were talking about, and I could never remember what I did after waking up. I have damage in one optic nerve, meaning that sometimes it sends signals to my brain slower than my other eye. By the time the slow signal has gotten there, the signal from the other eye has already processed ... creating a feeling of "wait I've seen this before" because... well I have XD

Anyway, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if you're sure. It's just the mind is a terribly complicated instrument and I think it's more than likely that there's a neurological explanation for what you've experienced.

[Ben Trismegistus]

Have you considered researching Brixton theatres bombed during the War?

[WandererInGray]

I am finding it extremely amusing to see people trying so hard to explain away this experience. What is this need to make sure Boogins has "checked out all the possibilties" and discounted a possible scientific explanation for something that she already knows in her own heart to be true?

*shakes head and laughs* It's like me saying "I'm a female." and someone else replying "Are you really sure? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but there are some tests, etc. you should really take to rule out X,Y, and Z."

[Klucky]

I'm a curious chicken. :)

-Klucky

[Sylvan]

*shakes head and laughs* It's like me saying "I'm a female." and someone else replying "Are you really sure? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but there are some tests, etc. you should really take to rule out X,Y, and Z."
Um, no. If we were in the room with you, we'd know that you *were* a female.
Boogins went through a difficult-to-verify experience, that many of us have not. You can't just walk up to somebody and know they're a walk-in, it's an inner experiential thing. Like I wouldn't know from looking at you what level of education you've completed. Experiential. Not physical appearance-like..
Besides, I'm sure most of the questions are based in curiosity...
And there's always a few skeptics that will try to explain things logically, scientifically... ;)

[Isil Darkmoon]

Um, no. If we were in the room with you, we'd know that you *were* a female.
Boogins went through a difficult-to-verify experience, that many of us have not. You can't just walk up to somebody and know they're a walk-in, it's an inner experiential thing. Like I wouldn't know from looking at you what level of education you've completed. Experiential. Not physical appearance-like..
Besides, I'm sure most of the questions are based in curiosity...
And there's always a few skeptics that will try to explain things logically, scientifically... ;)

Would you?

I've known several transsexuals that pass EVERY BIT as a woman when they're genetically male. I've even known some that can stand up to scrutiny naked "from the outside". Of course a gynecologist wouldn't be fooled, but to the casual eye, there's nothing distinguishing these folks from genetic women. You can't always tell... it's never that simple.

[Boogins]

Have you considered researching Brixton theatres bombed during the War?
Yes. Three were destroyed--Londoners were famous for bravely sticking to their everyday habits despite the blitz. Alas, I've never been able to dredge up lists of casualities.

And Isa... if I had severe brain damage, there would be evidence thereof on CAT scans or MRI's. I've had both, and there is no evidence of any sort of brain damage. Over and out.

BTW... I don't mind the questions or the questioning. I knew what had happened when I got here, but I admit it sounded weird enough at times I did a fair amount of research myself. I was the one who initiated the regressive hypnosis, not to mention the brain scans; I did the jog through old Brixton, and investigated the theaters... :lol: I even confirmed my wartime-style of Brixton/Cockney rhyming slang! That was pretty humorous. Very enjoyable.

Anyway, I can really understand others' need to explain this to themselves. But Wiggie is right: I do believe this. I know it to be true. And I'm quite happy with it. :)

[Faeawyn]

Boog, do you remember how old you were before, or what your name might have been? I've been aware of Walk-ins for years, but you're the first I've talked to about it. I think I was even on a website once for walk-in's, but don't remember where it was :(
The most interesting thing I find about this is that your body was dead for 47 minutes. You would think that because the body is organic, it would begin to deteriorate like normal after death. So that would mean that your spirit must have had some kind of ability to restore health to the body you entered. Very cool :D

[Sylvan]

Would you?

I've known several transsexuals that pass EVERY BIT as a woman when they're genetically male. I've even known some that can stand up to scrutiny naked "from the outside". Of course a gynecologist wouldn't be fooled, but to the casual eye, there's nothing distinguishing these folks from genetic women. You can't always tell... it's never that simple.
Scratch that, then. read it as "identify/live as female" and that'll work. Geez.

[Bec_W]

Thanks for sharing your story Boogin's, t'is really fastinating!

You know, you wouldn't necessarily have to tell your other family that your their long lost sister, you could tell them your interested in the war and find out that way.

[Boogins]

Boog, do you remember how old you were before, or what your name might have been? I've been aware of Walk-ins for years, but you're the first I've talked to about it. I think I was even on a website once for walk-in's, but don't remember where it was :(
The most interesting thing I find about this is that your body was dead for 47 minutes. You would think that because the body is organic, it would begin to deteriorate like normal after death. So that would mean that your spirit must have had some kind of ability to restore health to the body you entered. Very cool :D
I know my name was Kay, and my brother's was Ronald. Truly useful stuff, eh? I was seventeen, too, I know that.

I suppose there's something about the spirit that does maintain the body... otherwise you could really call me a degenerate! :rollingla Oops, sorry.

And Bec, that might be an idea. Maybe once the series sells I can afford to go over again. :)

[Erebus]

Some Questions:

How did your soul heal the brain damage and stop the swelling?

Why did the previous soul leave if it had the power to heal the body (like your current soul apparently did)?

Could your soul heal your body to such an amazing degree again? Can you heal other people of terminal/incurable damage/disease?

Why did your original soul hang around for 40 years before deciding to find a new body?

I'm having a hard time understanding how all this works....

[Faeawyn]

How did your soul heal the brain damage and stop the swelling?
Perhaps thru the intervention of a higher power?

Why did the previous soul leave if it had the power to heal the body (like your current soul apparently did)? It's time was over and it chose to go?

Could your soul heal your body to such an amazing degree again? Can you heal other people of terminal/incurable damage/disease? If a higher power decided she needed to come back to take care of something...that wouldn't mean she was given super powers to heal others.
Why did your original soul hang around for 40 years before deciding to find a new body?
Time exists differently on the other side. 40 years could have seemed like a week there.
thats my 2 cents :rotfl:

[Isa]

I am finding it extremely amusing to see people trying so hard to explain away this experience. What is this need to make sure Boogins has "checked out all the possibilties" and discounted a possible scientific explanation for something that she already knows in her own heart to be true?

You fine this amusing... funny I find you insulting.

I cannot speak for the others who had questions, but to me poking and proding with questions, theories, suggestions is not the disrespectful action you are trying to make it seem to be. And I'm insulted that someone would try to take what was for the most part (with a notable exception that does not need to be mentioned) a very polite discussion about a concept I have never heard of and knew very little about and turn it into the nonbelievers trying to debunk poor Boogins who knows the truth in her heart. To me it is natural to explore the issue with questions. If I didn't believe her, didn't respect her, or thought she was some silly fruitcake talking nonsense I wouldn't question her beliefs ... I would roll my eyes, close the thread and go do something else. It's precisely because I believe her claim is reasonable that I wanted to better understand it by asking her about it.

I find the idea that in order to respect someone else's beliefs we must only agree with everything they say and never question any claim they make to be utter horse sh*t. And I don't respect people who come into a discussion only to start a fight between various sides instead of providing something worthwhile.

[Boogins]

Great answers, Fae.

Erebus, many things happen daily in life that science still cannot explain. That doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means the answers haven't been discovered yet. I know that I am here, and the previous occupant is not. Self-awareness is a hallmark of sentience: the brain is healed and functioning, and I am fully self-aware.

[Bec_W]

Time exists differently on the other side. 40 years could have seemed like a week there.


Or no time at all. I think time is a very human perseption, perhaps because of the bodies we live in we've only got a limited time. As a spirit who doesn't have those restrictions time isn't an issue.

Even if she's not a walk in, isn't it still, miraculous (is that the word I'm looking for?) that she is alive? Generally speaking, people don't just recover from being dead.

[Erebus]

Great answers, Fae.

Erebus, many things happen daily in life that science still cannot explain. That doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means the answers haven't been discovered yet. I know that I am here, and the previous occupant is not. Self-awareness is a hallmark of sentience: the brain is healed and functioning, and I am fully self-aware.

So "God Works in Mysterious Ways"?

[WandererInGray]

I cannot speak for the others who had questions, but to me poking and proding with questions, theories, suggestions is not the disrespectful action you are trying to make it seem to be.

Hey, just calling it as it see it. It's not the poking and prodding questions that gets me. If Boogins didn't want to answer them all she has to do is leave the thread, but she's been really kind and patient.
It's condescending statements like this that I find disrespectful:
Anyway, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if you're sure. It's just the mind is a terribly complicated instrument and I think it's more than likely that there's a neurological explanation for what you've experienced.

*shrugs* Think what you want, that statement struck me as rude. If you didn't mean it that way, then hey great. :)

And I don't respect people who come into a discussion only to start a fight between various sides instead of providing something worthwhile.

*shrugs* Wasn't looking to start a fight, just stating my opinion on the subject. I'm sorry that you saw it that way.

Anyhow, back to the original discussion.
Erebus, many things happen daily in life that science still cannot explain. That doesn't mean they don't happen, it just means the answers haven't been discovered yet. I know that I am here, and the previous occupant is not. Self-awareness is a hallmark of sentience: the brain is healed and functioning, and I am fully self-aware.

I scanned back through but don't remember seeing anything on this Boogins...did you mention at all if you had memories or have tried to...*shrugs*...contact I suppose the previous soul?

[Phoenix Blue]

It's hard to objectively judge someone else's experience. About all you can do is ask yourself, "does this person set off my BS meter?" :) Based on my experience with Boogins, and based on reading her story, I'm inclined to believe her.

[Boogins]

I scanned back through but don't remember seeing anything on this Boogins...did you mention at all if you had memories or have tried to...*shrugs*...contact I suppose the previous soul?
I mentioned a little bit about my family, having brrn named Kay... never even thought of contant the previous occupant. That's probably a knee-jerk reaction on my part: her family is such a lot of... oh, wait, can't use language like that on the forums :bigredblu ... I've always had the impression she's not somebody I'd like to meet. :eek:

And thank you, PB. I truly appreciate that.

[Faeawyn]

Oh I think Boogins is nuttier than a fruitcake...but I still believe her :rotfl: :tongueout

[Cinnamon Girl]

This is really fascinating - thanks for putting yourself out there to be questioned, Boogins. :)

You know, I wouldn't be surprised at all if walk-ins were the subject of M. Night Shyamalan's next film!

And for the record, I believe most of the questions directed at Boogins have been from sheer fascination and curiosity (I know that's the case with me anyway), not from any desire to debunk her claim.

[Romani Vixen]

Boog.... I'm finding this quite interesting!!!

If I were you... I wouldn't even necessarially try to contact my previous Brittish family, but to verify. Did you happen to note the address that struck you as home? You might be able to find ownership records. If you can get a last name, you can see what grade in school you were in! :D

But who knows.... you might talk to Ronald (that's your brother's name right?) and he might just out of the blue start calling you by your old name! There's no telling!

The thing that has me scratching my head over the entire concept.... why not be reincarnated anew? Why a used body?

[Isa]

*shrugs* Wasn't looking to start a fight, just stating my opinion on the subject. I'm sorry that you saw it that way.

Okay, well here's the thing I don't get ... when I state my opinion (the quote you so helpfully bolded) it's rude ... but when you state your opinion (as you are claiming you were "just" doing above) it's ... what?

I'm sorry I don't want to bring another nasty argument into MW but (correct me if I'm wrong here) essentially what you think is that it's okay for only certain opinions about the concept of Walk-ins to be posted here because all other opinions would be "conscending" ... but on the other hand it's also okay for you to be conscending to me because ....?

Look ... you read things into my post that simply aren't there. I have my opinions, I was not scolding or criticizing her for believing what she does. Each us draws from our own personal world-view when dealing with these issues, Boogins beliefs match Boogins experiences ... my beliefs match mine. Since I don't have Boogins experiences I cannot relate to her belief. That's all.

But the difficult thing about the internet is that you can basically read a post in whatever tone you want. So look back through the thread, because you've basically talking to me as if I was badgering Boogins about her beliefs when I made only one post about my skepticism (which I intended to be very polite and openminded-- Gee look where that got me). There are people who have been rude in questioning it, there are also people who have NOT been rude ... is it fair to lump us all together and criticize us all because you can't bother to pay attention to who said what?

[Mithrea]

I think this thread is being derailed and any non-walk-in discussion should be taken to pm's and/or directed at the Admins.

[IndigoRat]

The thing that has me scratching my head over the entire concept.... why not be reincarnated anew? Why a used body?

Think of it this way; why wait and go thorugh all the growing up you need to go through physically when you're reincarnated when all you have to do is squeeze your way into a "mature" form? :P At least that's my brief reasoning on it. Perhaps there was somehting urgent that needed to be done, or maybe it was all a matter of convienience.

[tangerine_smile]

i know some things about this subject as well. and from what you've said i do believe you whole heartedly aswell . But lets face it, it doesn't really matter who does and who doesn't. the truth is the truth and it doesn't matter who agrees and who doesn't, as it cant be changed (i can only imagine how much easer it would be to not admit whats true, how it must be to be in a situation many haven't experienced).

As for all of these questions being asked, it's only to be expected. when I'm fascinated by something, i ask a million questions so i can know more and understand more.
on the other hand, i can also understand why WandererInGray said what he did. when i walked into the thread and read some posts, the question asking did seem in some ways like a very mild debunking. which i guess can be expected on-line as there are many people who say things that might not be true. no one wants to be taken in. which means that the one who may be telling the truth for real, may not be believed as quickly as they should, which is a bit of a shame.
all and all, this is a good thread, asking some good questions . though it's a lot of questions for bogens to reply to (and thanks for doing so) everyone else is getting a chance to learn more about this topic, which is quite helpful :),

[tangerine_smile]

I think this thread is being derailed and any non-walk-in discussion should be taken to pm's and/or directed at the Admins.

Good point. i'll be sure to keep to the subject at hand then.

[tangerine_smile]

Think of it this way; why wait and go thorugh all the growing up you need to go through physically when you're reincarnated when all you have to do is squeeze your way into a "mature" form? :P At least that's my brief reasoning on it. Perhaps there was somehting urgent that needed to be done, or maybe it was all a matter of convienience.

Thats a good point. personaly, i've always thought that one left the body and another entered because the first one was at there wits ends and perhaps fed up trying to live life in that body and so in a way, perhaps someone else was sent in to take that souls's place(kind of like a changing of the guards ). Someone who could take the troubles being thrown at that person easer. but thats just my theory. :reading:

[Klucky]

Okay, well here's the thing I don't get ... when I state my opinion (the quote you so helpfully bolded) it's rude ... but when you state your opinion (as you are claiming you were "just" doing above) it's ... what?

I'm sorry I don't want to bring another nasty argument into MW but (correct me if I'm wrong here) essentially what you think is that it's okay for only certain opinions about the concept of Walk-ins to be posted here because all other opinions would be "conscending" ... but on the other hand it's also okay for you to be conscending to me because ....?

Look ... you read things into my post that simply aren't there. I have my opinions, I was not scolding or criticizing her for believing what she does. Each us draws from our own personal world-view when dealing with these issues, Boogins beliefs match Boogins experiences ... my beliefs match mine. Since I don't have Boogins experiences I cannot relate to her belief. That's all.

But the difficult thing about the internet is that you can basically read a post in whatever tone you want. So look back through the thread, because you've basically talking to me as if I was badgering Boogins about her beliefs when I made only one post about my skepticism (which I intended to be very polite and openminded-- Gee look where that got me). There are people who have been rude in questioning it, there are also people who have NOT been rude ... is it fair to lump us all together and criticize us all because you can't bother to pay attention to who said what?

If I can be so bold as to cut in here, I believe that Wiggie's original post was only directed towards those who were asking questions ONLY to try and make Boo look bad. There are indeed a bunch of us who are just curious and would enjoy every detail, but I haven't seen any of them bite at Wiggie's post. I'm not trying to say you're one of the nasty people, but I think you made yourself wrongly accused. :) In a generalized statement, I believe that you don't have to try and protect yourself if you're already on the winning side. Only you know what you intended in your posts, but I think that they seemed as genuine as almost everybody else's. :)

-Klucky

[Klucky]

Think of it this way; why wait and go thorugh all the growing up you need to go through physically when you're reincarnated when all you have to do is squeeze your way into a "mature" form? :P At least that's my brief reasoning on it. Perhaps there was somehting urgent that needed to be done, or maybe it was all a matter of convienience.

Or maybe the girl's parents would have gone through too much tragedy at her death and it was sort of for the sake of them.

-Klucky

[Faeawyn]

Perhaps it was important for Boogins to retain some of her memories from her previous life, so it was best that she not step in as an infant. And perhaps her family had something to learn from this experience.

[Boogins]

I've always felt it was a matter of my own maturity at the time of my death that it was important I take over a "used" body so an essential adult didn't have to start as a baby. In this fashion, I was able to immediately take steps towards goals that were set in another lifetime, and then snatched away by premature demise.

I've always believed I had a reason to be here. And I really believe that reason is coming to fruition now. :)

[fay]

But the difficult thing about the internet is that you can basically read a post in whatever tone you want.

so true! you cant get across tone in a post, which can get annoying when you cant really convey what you mean properly as the other person cant hear how you're saying it. (damn sarcasm not working on msn! :nyah: )

boogins, i think your story sounds amazing and really cool! i think you take individual and unique to the extreme! lol

blessed be

[Boogins]

boogins, i think your story sounds amazing and really cool! i think you take individual and unique to the extreme! lol



:lol: Thanks, fay!

[Rowan MoonDragon]

Boogins, I just want to thank you for sharing your story. I had never heard of walk ins and I'm truly amazed. I'm not really sure as to why......maybe just because there is someone within arms reach of my computer (i.e. some I "know") that has had the experience. I think its extremely facinating. Just goes to show that life is full or so many mysteries.

Blessed Be my friend.

[Boogins]

Thank you, and Blessed Be to you as well. :hugz: