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mystical sylph
July 28th, 2004, 04:06 PM
What should be done when a person wants to suicide?
Is there any magical word, event or anything that can help?
I'm facing this problem right now... and I don't know how to react... :sick:
*Rain*
July 28th, 2004, 04:20 PM
Nothing can make it magically go away but you just have to be strong and face the problem, whether that's by going through therapy or just talking to a friend, anyone for that matter. Saying it out loud can often help. Sorry but i'm not a councellor so i'd hate to give you any wrong advice on something so serious. But talk to someone, that's the best I can suggest.
I've personally been through the devastation of a family member committing suicide and it is truly awful for those left behind. We just wish he'd have talked to us so we could have helped him.
Aedrais
July 28th, 2004, 04:27 PM
I've had friends who have, and still do, consider suicide. I've done everything I can do, but sometimes a person needs more than friends. Therapy, for example, a doctor or psychologist to talk to, medication-- does your friend have any of these yet?
The only thing you can do is tell someone, I think. Keeping it to yourself only hurts you. :( *hugs from someone whose been in your position*
savannahrose44
July 28th, 2004, 04:31 PM
I would get into contact with your local crisis line. There are usually numbers listed in the front of your phone book that you can call to talk to someone. I'm not a professional so I would not feel comfortable trying to advise you other than this....
mystical sylph
July 28th, 2004, 04:33 PM
well... it's more like my sister has thought of it.. and almost jumped off the bridge if anyone catched her... and since then i've been opsessed by the thought because when I was younger I already had a kind of dysthymic disorder.. which I think I still have somehow. And i've been so used to be like that and keep anything for me that I just feel guilty to not do so.
anyways... i would like to convince myself not killing my self or nothing before helping the ones around me who wants to do this act
Erebus
July 28th, 2004, 04:39 PM
What should be done when a person wants to suicide?
Walk away.
If they really want to die, nothing you do will stop 'em (unless you're a trained crisis counsellor). If they don't really want to die, they're manipulating you and won't kill themselves even if you load the gun for them. In either case, such a person is someone who's just going to take your psyche and stomp all over it in the process of getting what they want.
savannahrose44
July 28th, 2004, 04:39 PM
well... it's more like my sister has thought of it.. and almost jumped off the bridge if anyone catched her... and since then i've been opsessed by the thought because when I was younger I already had a kind of dysthymic disorder.. which I think I still have somehow. And i've been so used to be like that and keep anything for me that I just feel guilty to not do so.
anyways... i would like to convince myself not killing my self or nothing before helping the ones around me who wants to do this act
Seriously talk to someone...I know that at times it seems like there are a lot of good reasons to give up and kill yourself...however I would encourage you to look at the other side of the coin...there are a lot of good reasons NOT to kill yourself. Sit down and really think about that... make a list if you will and seriously think about it.
Elise
July 28th, 2004, 04:40 PM
first off I'm no therapist.. but not only did I try it a couple of times.. one of my daughters tried too(years ago) I told her while suicide seems the way out of a person's problems, it's the most selfish act.. It does stop "their" problem, but by committing suicide it creates so many more, for those that the person is close to, friends, those people that love the person considering it.. She thought about it awhile and decided it was selfish and decided there were better ways to deal with her feelings/problems I hope this helps..
mystical sylph
July 28th, 2004, 04:43 PM
Seriously talk to someone...I know that at times it seems like there are a lot of good reasons to give up and kill yourself...however I would encourage you to look at the other side of the coin...there are a lot of good reasons NOT to kill yourself. Sit down and really think about that... make a list if you will and seriously think about it.
well... the list would be quite short... and with things that i can,t really do
my violin
it doesn't win enaugh money... and i can't play i so well
mystical sylph
July 28th, 2004, 04:45 PM
first off I'm no therapist.. but not only did I try it a couple of times.. one of my daughters tried too(years ago) I told her while suicide seems the way out of a person's problems, it's the most selfish act.. It does stop "their" problem, but by committing suicide it creates so many more, for those that the person is close to, friends, those people that love the person considering it.. She thought about it awhile and decided it was selfish and decided there were better ways to deal with her feelings/problems I hope this helps..
well.. actually, what you just mentionned is the second reason why i'm still here
the first is that I don,t have the guts... I always chiken out
savannahrose44
July 28th, 2004, 04:47 PM
well... the list would be quite short... and with things that i can,t really do
my violin
it doesn't win enaugh money... and i can't play i so well
I don't think it would be all that short if you could get past this feeling of depression you have come into. I never said it would be easy to find the reasons to live, but if you really look hard you will find there are quite a few. Play the devils advocate....If you want to kill yourself....try to think of all the reasons why you shouldn't.
docdoo
July 28th, 2004, 04:53 PM
Walk away.
If they really want to die, nothing you do will stop 'em (unless you're a trained crisis counsellor). If they don't really want to die, they're manipulating you and won't kill themselves even if you load the gun for them. In either case, such a person is someone who's just going to take your psyche and stomp all over it in the process of getting what they want.
*nods emphatically* yep, yep, yep!!!
Whether you think so or not YOU are the most important person in your life.
thok_ragnarok
July 28th, 2004, 04:54 PM
This is a personal experience...its what got me beyond thoughts of suicide...halloween when I was 16 years old I was the typical whiney teenager thinking that the world hated me and I should just die. I was in theropy...which was only so so. I was talking to my step moms mother about what was going on. My dad was drunk and overheard me. He told my step mom to take all of the kids in her car he was taking me. At that point he told me to get in the car, we were going to go down the highway as fast as we could and hit a wall. I believe he was ready to do it (my dad's psycho like that)...at that point it hit me, I didn't REALLY want to die...so I stopped bitching and learned to suck it up
mystical sylph
July 28th, 2004, 05:40 PM
well, I try, personally, to forget those Idears, and to just forget about anything in the past or present. anyways... the present event don,t help either...
Dorchadas Síofra
July 28th, 2004, 06:32 PM
Nothing magical can be done. This I know. Therapy is good and if it is bad, medicine can help. I have both. I have suicidal ideations, but with medicine they are not as bad.
Just be there and support your friend, and encourage them to seek help. If you ever need to talk about any of it, I'm here ok. *hugs* for both of you.
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