Eyes changing color?

[WolfWonderess]

One of my best friends' (Maria) younger sister, Chandi, (who is now 14) has always had a strange habit of waking in the middle of the night speaking a strange language. Both Maria and her mother were aware of this, and it's been happening since she was little. In one instance where Chandi woke up speaking her language, both my friend and her mother apparently witnessed her eyes change color to yellow. However, they kept that detail from Chandi, since they didn't want to freak her out, understandably.

Again, they kept this from her until recently, when Maria finally told her about it.

Then, there's my other best friend, Pam, who has had something similar happen (though without the language thing). When looking in a mirror, she saw her eyes turn red.

In both cases, the whites changed color as well, not just the iris. In Pam's case, the pupil was still visable. In Chandi's case, her eyes were open but rolled back in her head.

Also, in Pam's case (as she just reminded me) around the same time that happened, she had seen the spirits of Native Americans in her house, and they had red eyes, as well.

I've never had anything like this happen to me...the closest would be that a few years ago, Pam and I had at night seen "eyes" on my wall by my bed. Both of us were able to see them, and it wasn't light from outside. We thought that at first, but then when I put my hand over it, no light shone on my hands as it would have if it came from outside--it covered it. Which royally freaked us out, to say the least. But, since that night, we haven't seen them (though for two years I had my wall there covered where the "eyes" had been).

O_o This I know sounds reeeeally weird...but...uh...there's just no way I can type it to make it sound any less strange. ^^;;

Anyhoo...we were just wondering what the deal with eyes could possibly mean. Maria and I figure in Chandi's case the speaking in a foreign language deal could be a past life remnant (I've read that's somewhat common...) but as for eyes changing color...can't figure that one out. O_o

[ApollaJade]

That sounds really wierd...I can't give you much information though, fat lotta good I am ;)

[WolfWonderess]

Heh heh, it's okay! I've been trying to research it for a while, and can't seem to find anything about it. But, then, I don't really know what to look under. :/ But yeah, very weird it is! ^^;;

[Morgandria]

An acquaintance made a response to a similar thread on another board I'm going to yoink, since it explains better than I can:

I would be hesitant to believe that normal shifts in eye color are a manifestation of anything but the variable interaction of light from different angles and pigment inside a translucent sphere. If you took a normal human eyeball, say from a cadaver, and moved it around and squished it under different lighting conditions you'd get significant color changing. Nice mental image, huh? :lol

This said, some psychologists have documented that people with true MPD (multiple personality disorder) markedly change their eye color upon changing the resident personality. Is this an effect related to the "spirit" inhabiting the body? Or is the explanation physiological? Experts suggest that it is an effect of differential muscle tension on the shape of the eye. If you mess with the shape of a partly pigmented globe, it is certainly true that this can have a significant effect on the visible color spectrum.

In essence - as the shape of your eye changes due to muscle movement and tension, so can the visible colour of said eye. Nothing too strange about that.
-M.

[WolfWonderess]

Does that account for only the iris part of the eye, or for the whites, as well? Because in both Pam and Chandi's cases, the whites changed color, as well. O_o

I would have suggested to them that is could have been because of lighting (like how people get red eye from cameras, or how the eyes of animals at night flash green or yellow), but they said it wasn't just the iris part...

But, anything's a possibility! I have no idea either way. Just being the middleman (er, woman) to try and see any explanations for it.

[Morgandria]

The only things, in general, that change the colour of the whites of your eyes is illness, or a change in the lighting.

I wasn't there, and I didn't experience it - but sometimes one experiences things in the spirit world that seem so real, and are so strong, that they seem to be physical. But they're not. It doesn't negate the experience...it just means you have to really think about what happened and whether you really think it was spiritual or physical.

[violet rain]

well my opinion on the whole thing is that you mentioned about the native americans inhabiting her house sometimes I believe that the spirits inhabit the bodies of those close to them I'm speakng pure physically close to them not emotionally especially if you are very in tune so to speak with the spiritual world they will posses your body to try to communicate with other people .

[WolfWonderess]

Morgandria, that could be it. I doubt it would be truly physical, but both Maria, her mother, and sister are very spiritually intuned...so, it makes sense that they would be able to see it (well, Maria at least...I forget whether her mother saw the eye change or not). I just wonder what the change means...

Violet Rain, Pam suggested that very thing, as well! We both hoped that wasn't the case (we don't really fancy the idea of possession O_O) but that's a definite possibility. It hasn't happened since then (that she's told me), and she said that was the only time she saw them...

But when her eyes changed she wasn't trying to contact anyone. She had been just looking in her mirror, and she said she can't remember if she saw the Native Americans before or after that incident, though it was close to that time.

[Isa]

I'm not entirely sure about the eye color changing thing ... but I do the speaking in strange languages all the time. They're called "Night Terrors" (I slightly misleading name since they happen during the deepest periods of sleep and the person having them neither knows nor remembers anything about them). While mine are rather mild now, when I was a child I used to sit bolt upright in bed with my eyes wide open and let out this blood curdling scream at like 3am (scaring the crap out of my parents XD XD XD). They can be very dramatic and at times a bit violent (depending on the person)

Having the eyes rolled back in the head is quite normal for night terrors as well, since the victim is completely and soundly asleep.

Edit: Okay... ha! I did a quick Google... it seems that talking in one's sleep in not connected to Night Terrors afterall, but it is a fairly common sleep disorder thing anyway XD and I do it too.

[WolfWonderess]

Heh! I know all about night terrors! Pam's brother (who's only a year younger than I at 19) has them quite frequently. Scares the crud outta me when I sleepover at her house. O_O

As for the language thing...she doesn't scream or anything, and it's not babbling. From what Maria and her mother say, it sounds like an actual language--it's not random chatter, but organized and flowing.

In some of the past life books I've read, it talks about how some people will in their sleep speak in languages they don't actually know--for instance, of a child with no French background speaking in fluent French. We think that's what's going on with her--except Maria and her mother haven't been able to pinpoint what language it could be. O_O

[Seren_]

As for the language thing...she doesn't scream or anything, and it's not babbling. From what Maria and her mother say, it sounds like an actual language--it's not random chatter, but organized and flowing.

In some of the past life books I've read, it talks about how some people will in their sleep speak in languages they don't actually know--for instance, of a child with no French background speaking in fluent French. We think that's what's going on with her--except Maria and her mother haven't been able to pinpoint what language it could be. O_O

Night terrors in general are quite common, as is speaking in tongues. Psychologically, people can subconsciously pick up on different languages they don't actually understand or remember consciously, but might have heard at some point without even realising; this can help explain "past life experiences" in a lot of cases. Or so it's thought, anyway.

While you're asleep, it's generally accepted that your subconscious is working itself out. Talking in your sleep is usually seen as being as part of the process for some people...I can have whole conversations with my other half while he's asleep from the more mundane "Chris, you're snoring" - "No I'm not" - to "No I'm not and there a five bicycles with the pink fluffy lemons, actually...". It makes no sense at all, but while my husband is asleep, it might (and on one memorable occasion when I told him he was snoring, he punched me because he was dreaming he was having a fight at the time...). And in all cases he will appear to be awake - eyes open, seemingly alert and all that. He really is still asleep.

The same goes for "unknown languages" and night terrors. In both cases, the person is usually still asleep, even when they appear to be awake. This could be an actual language somebody picked up subconsciously, or a hangover from learning to speak when they were a baby, say (when everything's gobble-dee-gook) - kids often have a "made up language" when they learn to speak, like my nephews did, say; or else it's just part of the brain's inability to process actual language while it's resting, maybe. Either way, it's probably more to do with some kind of sleep disorder than some kind of esoteric manifestation causing the problem. Although personally I wouldn't rule it out.

Edit to say: My own eyes can change colour according to my mood, so I wouldn't rule it out during sleep or any other time.

[calria]

Just a thought-- in order to pinpoint what language it is, why not video her one night? Finding out what it is might help in figuring out why she does it...

[Isa]

I agree with Seren XD The languages I occassionally speak in my sleep (and when I say this I'm going by the opinions of former roomies and such as .... well I sleep through these incidents ^O^) do not sound like jibberish, I've been told they sound like Hebrew (though I speak literally none). Who knows? Perhaps we are getting signals from the mothership XD XD XD But if you were gathering up your banishing pentacles and preparing for some good old bloodletting-- then I'd say hold off, it's probably just normal sleeping weirdness XD