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Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 10:46 AM
Well some of you know the story on mom cat. For those who dont, I will give a quick run down.

My MIL had my SIL's cat living at her house. She let the cat outside all the time. The cat got PG and she didnt take care of it. The cat was under weight and starting to get run down. With permission, I took the mom cat in. I cared for her, took her to the vet and we got her back into good health. Mom cat had 3 very healthy kits. I was told that when the kits weaned that mom cat was to go back to my MIL's house.

Well, When my SIL heard that the kits were weaned, she demanded the cat back. My MIL didnt want the cat back so my SIL said she was keeping it. She took mom cat Thursday. I gave her a healthy, active, happy cat.

On Saturday, 48 hrs later, I got a call from my SIL. She said the cat was going potty all over the house. (mom cat never did that here!!!) I said mom cat uses 2 litter boxes. One for pee and one for poo. Mom cat did that by herself. My SIL said she would be damed if she is going to buy 2 boxes for a cat! She hung up the phone and called back a little while later... She said she didnt want mom cat anymore and was going to dump it!!! So if I didnt want mom cat dumped, I could have her back...to keep pernamently.

Of course, I said bring her over and release ownership.

Well, she brought mom cat back right away.

She handed my a half dead cat!!!! We have no clue what they did to mom cat but she is very bad off. I cant afford the vet right now, (many know I am financialy tight and have some things going on that makes it impossible to pay more vet bills) Anyhow, I did talk to the vet and it would prob cost a dear penny to find out whats all wrong with mom cat since my SIL wont tell us anything. She says, she has no clue. The only thing I can do now is basic nurse care and keep her babies near for encouragement.

Mom cat can hardly walk. She can barely get into her cat box. She wont eat or drink. She was covered in dried slime...I think their dog got her. She stinks. She doesnt purr (she used to constantly). She doesnt talk(she used to constantly. All she does is lay. She has gone pee but has tried and tried to poop but it hasnt happened. She has no fever!!!!

I am doing intense nursing. I got her to take a little canned food and water off my fingers. She does wag her tail when I work with her and when the babies come near her. The babies do not like her odor. I smell dirty cat but the babies seem to smell more!!! (The babies dont nurse. They are weaned and moms tits are shrinking and soft.

I cant believe these people!!!
One, they know if was a finacial struggle for me to care for their cat in the first place, but know one else would do it........they are wealthy and never contributed anything.

Two....how could they take a healthy cat and in 48 hours turn it into a weak, scrawnny, mess? I can not believe this.

I've been calling the B$tch but she wont answer her phone nor call me back!!!
I would like to know if the dog got mom cat, if anything else happened and whether or not she could of gotton into any poisons...like cleaning stuff!!! I just want to know what the heck happened in 48 hours to cause this.

I cried like a baby yesterday..I feel so bad for ever giving mom cat back.
I just hope that mom cat will heal and recover.

I desided my SIL can go to, you know where...I dont want anything to do with these people!!!! They make me sick!!!!!

Please send energy to mom cat. Know one will fork out a penny to help and I dont have any money to fork out!!! I can not make a bill....I cant afford to. THEY KNOW THIS THOSE ROTTON PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sooooooooooo mad!!!!!!!!!!:flamer:

Earthy
August 8th, 2004, 10:53 AM
Oh Shanti :hugz:
I'm speechless.What in the *** can have happened in 2 days for her to be in this shape?Oh the poor mum cat.I will send energies so she may regain her strength,so she may know your love.*shakes head* Some people. :bastard:

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 11:01 AM
I also wonder if they kicked her or threw her? I wish I knew!!!!!!!!!!!

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 11:03 AM
Oh Shanti :hugz:
I'm speechless.What in the *** can have happened in 2 days for her to be in this shape?Oh the poor mum cat.I will send energies so she may regain her strength,so she may know your love.*shakes head* Some people. :bastard:
I hurt for mom cat soooooo bad and feel sooooooo guilty. I should of said they couldnt have her and let a family fued start, but I didnt. Now I am kicking myself as I watch over mom cat. I keep telling her she is home and will never have to leave again. I keep telling her I am sorry and love her. I hope she knows what I am saying.

Earthy
August 8th, 2004, 11:12 AM
When i read your post,i wondered if they had abused her in some way too,considering she was in perfect health only 2 days ago.
I'm sure she does know you love you,you're with her,comforting her and although she can't speak,she knows.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 11:17 AM
When i read your post,i wondered if they had abused her in some way too,considering she was in perfect health only 2 days ago.
I'm sure she does know you love you,you're with her,comforting her and although she can't speak,she knows.
Thank you Earthy....this morning I was so scared to get up and check on her. I was afraid she was passed and I am not ready for that...no.

What I did find, was my 6 yr old daughter, curled up with mom cat in the cats bed! She whispered to me..."mom cat purred a real little bit for me". It was a beautiful sight and those words felt soooo good to here and the hope on my daughters face, gave me hope. Mom cat even seemed to smile when she looked up at me. My daughter and mom cat had gotten very close during the time she's been here.

Earthy
August 8th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Aww...what a special child you have.Sitting with mom cat,just being there so she wasn't alone.And mom cat purred too,so that's gotta be a good sign.Sending so much energy to her.She is so loved with your family,and what a wonderful bond between the cat and your daughter.:)

Gareth
August 8th, 2004, 11:26 AM
I'm willing to bet the dog got to her!

Sending what I can and hoping for Ms. mom cat to get better!

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM
I'm willing to bet the dog got to her!

Sending what I can and hoping for Ms. mom cat to get better!
Thank you.

Erebus
August 8th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Given the story, I think you're right that the dog attacked the cat. I'd suspect internal injuries.

Is there blood in her urine?

What kind of dog does your SIL have? Can you describe the slime she was covered in? It could be dog slobber of SIL has a bigger dog, or evidence she got into a household chemical like oil or antifreeze.

Check the gums, are they pale or pink? Do a gum test to check circulation.

Also do a pinch test, most poisons will dehydrate. Look at the fur surrounding the rectum and check for evidence of dihorreah.

Also, SO, on her way out the door, says to check her ears and see if they're hot, but I'm not sure what that would tell you.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Given the story, I think you're right that the dog attacked the cat. I'd suspect internal injuries.

Is there blood in her urine?

What kind of dog does your SIL have? Can you describe the slime she was covered in? It could be dog slobber of SIL has a bigger dog, or evidence she got into a household chemical like oil or antifreeze.

Check the gums, are they pale or pink? Do a gum test to check circulation.

Also do a pinch test, most poisons will dehydrate. Look at the fur surrounding the rectum and check for evidence of dihorreah.

Also, SO, on her way out the door, says to check her ears and see if they're hot, but I'm not sure what that would tell you.
No blood.
Boston terrier PG female. 8 months old.
Gums pink.
Dehydration...not yet but worried about it developing, trying to get water in her. So far just a few drops at a time I have been able to get in her. My DIL is bring over pedialite shorlty.
Ears fine...no sign of anything feverish plus I took her temp, normal. No warm 'spots' on her body.

She does hurt when you lift her, it seems to be somewhere inside her gut that hurts. Can feel anything broke. Breathing normal.

The dired slime was over her sides of her body. On both sides. One side the slimed area was all over and the other side it was a patch that was behind the ribs and about 2inches in diameter. It plastered the hair stiff.

The boston terrier is not big but if the cat couldnt get away because it was already hurt or trapped with the dog (which they would'nt lock their 400 dollar dog with a 'farm' cat!!), that could explain the slime. So I wonder if it was already hurt when it got slimed!

Erebus
August 8th, 2004, 12:04 PM
SO on the phone, I'm reading your post to her.

She says the symptoms are very worrisome. With the pain while lifting, not wanting to drink, and the lack of bowel movement, it definitely sounds like internal injuries causing some sort of blockage. Which you can't do anything but supportive care for and hope it's not serious enough to kill her. The only other option, unfortunately, is a vet.

Khuinaset
August 8th, 2004, 12:20 PM
That's absolutely horrible! Poor cat...I'll keep her in my thoughts. And I dunno if you've tried it, but something that my mom and I have done when we're trying to get some water in dogs and they don't want to drink- putting water in a syringe and squirting some in their mouth, it's helped get some down in the past. I hope she gets better soon!

mara
August 8th, 2004, 12:41 PM
I hate to say it , but maybe someone kicked her in anger when she didn't use the litter box. I hope not ..I hate people who hurt animals. I hope everything turns out okay.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 02:24 PM
Good news...we got enough a money, 15 bucks, to buy this vet stuff. One is for nutrition and one is to 'jump start her digestive system (good bactira complex).

And after I gave her that stuff, a little while later, she got thrirsty and drank water on her own!!!!!!!!!!! :) I had to put the water dish on a box for her so its at her level because she caht bend to drink, but she drank totally on her own!!!!!

She also licked her canned cat food. She didnt take a bite but went, on her own, to lick it!!!!

I hope she is getting better.

And getting kicked is a VERY likely possibility with these people. The 9 yr old son has a severe problem with tortuing animals and his little sister, who has had to go to the hospital because of injuries from her brother! The boy is under psychiatiric care but the parents dont protect others from him.
Plus we dont trust the others either. The attitudes toward animals are pretty bad unless the animal costed a lot of money and has perigree. The one person we know that would not hurt anything is the 7 yr old daughter of theres. She loves and is gentle with all creatures. Totally the oposite of the parents.

Anyhow, I hope mom cat is giving us good signs as to whats going on.
We are going to have to find a very special name for mom cat, after all this is over. To endure so much and still give love like she does....we need a very special name indeed!

Earthy
August 8th, 2004, 03:23 PM
Oh,i hope she's on the way to recovery then.:)

Isil Darkmoon
August 8th, 2004, 03:33 PM
Oh the poor, poor darling! Hugs and love and energy to her!

Do you have any milk suppliment from when her kits were young/your foster work? That's good stuff for her, if you mix it to a liquid with water or a beaten egg. It's easier to eat, since she can lap it, and it's full of nutritious stuffs.

Otherwise, mush an egg into her soft food until that's a runny texture, that might encourage her to eat it. Add some broth or tuna juice to it to make it smell even yummier.

I hope the poor thing gets better. I believe she'll pull through, she's got a strong, strong spirit and you're taking good care of her.

blugirrl1
August 8th, 2004, 03:34 PM
Oh Shanti, that is just horrible. I am sending heaing energy to mom cat. it sounds as if she may slowly be mending. and you are so right she sure does need a special name after enduring such horrid treatment.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 03:40 PM
Oh the poor, poor darling! Hugs and love and energy to her!

Do you have any milk suppliment from when her kits were young/your foster work? That's good stuff for her, if you mix it to a liquid with water or a beaten egg. It's easier to eat, since she can lap it, and it's full of nutritious stuffs.

Otherwise, mush an egg into her soft food until that's a runny texture, that might encourage her to eat it. Add some broth or tuna juice to it to make it smell even yummier.

I hope the poor thing gets better. I believe she'll pull through, she's got a strong, strong spirit and you're taking good care of her.
Is it ok to give her the kitten formula? It wont cause her to start producing milk again, or is that ok. I just dont want her to get engourged. She only weaned, just shy of a week ago, which was not long enough to take her from the babies, but some people are stupidly stubborn and demaning...sorry. I am soooo mad. Her tits are not engourged but they still are larger like befor the kits where born. And they are normal temp and soft.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 03:41 PM
Oh Shanti, that is just horrible. I am sending heaing energy to mom cat. it sounds as if she may slowly be mending. and you are so right she sure does need a special name after enduring such horrid treatment.
Thank you blugirrl1. She can use all the energy she can get!

Isil Darkmoon
August 8th, 2004, 03:57 PM
Is it ok to give her the kitten formula? It wont cause her to start producing milk again, or is that ok. I just dont want her to get engourged. She only weaned, just shy of a week ago, which was not long enough to take her from the babies, but some people are stupidly stubborn and demaning...sorry. I am soooo mad. Her tits are not engourged but they still are larger like befor the kits where born. And they are normal temp and soft.

It shouldn't. There's nothing in it, specifically, that'll trigger milk production. It's just a good high calorie/high protien/vitiman suppliment. I acually use kitten formula, short term,--in combination with other things--on most ailing cats, just so they'll keep their weight on while they're sick. I've never had anything but good results with it. An adult can't live well on it alone, of course, but I'll blend some of the powder into soft food and an egg as sort of a "boost".

If for some reason it does cause milk production to the point of discomfort, the kits are young enough they should still have a su ckling reflex, and if she feels bad enough that it's an issue, she'll let them nurse. I woudln't worry about that.

The pe dialite is a good idea, syringe-feed her a little of that, but do leave her plain water out all the time; don't replace the water with pedialite.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 04:04 PM
It shouldn't. There's nothing in it, specifically, that'll trigger milk production. It's just a good high calorie/high protien/vitiman suppliment. I acually use kitten formula, short term,--in combination with other things--on most ailing cats, just so they'll keep their weight on while they're sick. I've never had anything but good results with it. An adult can't live well on it alone, of course, but I'll blend some of the powder into soft food and an egg as sort of a "boost".

If for some reason it does cause milk production to the point of discomfort, the kits are young enough they should still have a su ckling reflex, and if she feels bad enough that it's an issue, she'll let them nurse. I woudln't worry about that.

The pe dialite is a good idea, syringe-feed her a little of that, but do leave her plain water out all the time; don't replace the water with pedialite.
Thanks Isil...:thumbsup:

Oh we are not giving them (the SIL) the 3rd baby for their supposed neighbor (who doent seem to have a name.. :hmmmmm:). So far, we are keeping it unless we find a good home WE can be sure of. We named him sky. So we have moon, luna and sky!

Lunacie
August 8th, 2004, 04:11 PM
What I'm picking up is that MamaCat was kicked and the dog was just sniffing and drooling, the dog didn't do anything to hurt the cat. If love can cure anything, I know she'll get better. I'm sending Reiki energy for healing and health and a psychic kick in the butt for the brute who hurt her.

Isil Darkmoon
August 8th, 2004, 04:11 PM
Also, have you been able to wash her yet? IF there's something dangerous on her, it needs to be gotten off, and she just might feel perkier and happier if she was clean. Any bit to boost her attitude helps.

I recommend warm water and at your discression, just the tiniest bit of dish soap, ideally Dawn. Over and over that seems to be the best thing to clean an ill animal if there's any chance there's a toxin on their fur. If you think it's just dog slobber, don't use it, but if there's any chance it's poison or antifreeze, please do.

Make sure to dry her very VERY well, and keep her in a warm place until she's totally dry. Otherwise, in a weak animal, she could get hypothermia if she's no generating enough body heat on her own. If she'll tolerate a blow dryer, use that on the lowest heat. If not, towel-dry her and keep working with her until she's totally dry; don't forget the "armpits" and base of the tail, those usually stay damp the longest.

Please be careful, but best of luck.

they're such a cute kitty family--even thouh gyou haven't gotten us new kitten pics *pout*. Keep them together :) (says the crazy young cat lady....)

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 05:13 PM
What I'm picking up is that MamaCat was kicked and the dog was just sniffing and drooling, the dog didn't do anything to hurt the cat. If love can cure anything, I know she'll get better. I'm sending Reiki energy for healing and health and a psychic kick in the butt for the brute who hurt her.
Thanks Lunacie. ~Hugs~

Isil, I know its dog slobber. Been around dogs enough and smelled it too!!

I think poison can be rulled out as there hasnt been diahrea or discoloration of gums or tougne, no drooling or frothing, eyes are bright and not dialated. Attention is there. She responds to sounds with lifting her head or pricking her ears. She lays constantly but doesnt sleep excessively.

I do have to get her uo to go potty and to try to get her to eat and drink and give her the stuff we got. Other wise she wont move, not even if the babies call. I took canned cat food and let the babies smell it but not eat it to get them crying. They were in the other room. Mom lifted her head and pricked her ears and looked like she wanted to get up, but she didnt. If I make her get up, she will walk, slowly, over to her litter box on her own. She has a hard time lifting her legs the 2 inches she needs to in order to get in and most of the time she only gets 1/2 of her self in. I layed pee pads down to catch her accidents. She is using the babies box because she could not lift her legs into her own!

zakzekezedd
August 8th, 2004, 05:32 PM
From your last post it's sounds like mom cat might have a back injury. My little calico female suffered one as a wee thing. She absolutely disappeared for 3 weeks..when the poor little thing finally showed back up she could barely walk, was dragging her back legs. I was finally able to scoop her up and bring her in the house (she was a tiny bit of a half wild kitten at the time)..she did recover, and is a rather staid middle aged lady of 7 now. Never knew what happened for sure..a close encounter with a car or a fall seemed the most likely cause of her injury. In your mom cat's case, a kick or being thrown may be the cause. Check with your vet, I know that sometimes they will approve giving a half a tablet of baby aspirin for inflammation and pain. Most likely, all mom really needs is time and supportive care.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 05:45 PM
From your last post it's sounds like mom cat might have a back injury. My little calico female suffered one as a wee thing. She absolutely disappeared for 3 weeks..when the poor little thing finally showed back up she could barely walk, was dragging her back legs. I was finally able to scoop her up and bring her in the house (she was a tiny bit of a half wild kitten at the time)..she did recover, and is a rather staid middle aged lady of 7 now. Never knew what happened for sure..a close encounter with a car or a fall seemed the most likely cause of her injury. In your mom cat's case, a kick or being thrown may be the cause. Check with your vet, I know that sometimes they will approve giving a half a tablet of baby aspirin for inflammation and pain. Most likely, all mom really needs is time and supportive care. Vets not doable. My vet works with me over the phone but thats the end of his generousity. An office visit here is 110 dollars and 150 on weekends. I had to scratch the 15 dollars together just to buy the supplements and the digestive aid!!!!! I am rural. One vet. Next closest is 25 plus miles away and they dont even know me so no break their either!!

These are not...'I want to adopt a cat' circumstances. I saved a cat and her kits because know one even cared. My in laws that caused the hole mess are wealthy but cheap and have no hearts. My SO and I are the poorest in the family and we have to at least try. No one else cares.

She doesnt drag anything...thank the spirits, she just moves real slow and limits her movements. I am hoping she is badly bruised...that she can recover from!

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 05:52 PM
Good news, my grown son is gowing to take sky!!!! He just wants to wait till he is closer to 4-5 months old. He lives behnd me so he see's the kits all the time so sky knows him!!!!! :) He doesnt want Sky seperated from mom before 12 weeks. He was planning to get a cat in a few years, but figured Sky needs a home before that time and so he pushed it up! :)

Yvonne Belisle
August 8th, 2004, 07:22 PM
I will call my vet in the morning and see if she calls me back. I am sure she will give me advice for pain and inflamation for you. In the meantime sending as much healing cat energy as I can to you.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 07:27 PM
I will call my vet in the morning and see if she calls me back. I am sure she will give me advice for pain and inflamation for you. In the meantime sending as much healing cat energy as I can to you. ~Hugs~ Thank you.
My vet doesnt feel pain meds are that important as just concentrating on keeping her hydrated and in keeping her strength up. He is worried most about secondary nightmares. Thats why we watch for signs of temp change...which is still fine. It would be nice to have her more comfy. I do have to be careful incase she does start lactating again and starts feeding the kits. I think thats another reson the vet is not big on treating pain, or he knows I could not afford what he would have to offer.

I have looked for info for pain but with the potential of the kits feeding, their doesnt seem to be anything cheap and safe, but if you find out differant...please let me know!!!! Thanks again.

OriginalWacky
August 8th, 2004, 08:02 PM
~Hugs~ Thank you.
My vet doesnt feel pain meds are that important as just concentrating on keeping her hydrated and in keeping her strength up. He is worried most about secondary nightmares. Thats why we watch for signs of temp change...which is still fine. It would be nice to have her more comfy. I do have to be careful incase she does start lactating again and starts feeding the kits. I think thats another reson the vet is not big on treating pain, or he knows I could not afford what he would have to offer.

I have looked for info for pain but with the potential of the kits feeding, their doesnt seem to be anything cheap and safe, but if you find out differant...please let me know!!!! Thanks again.
Perhaps if you talked to your vet, he would be able to give you some Torbutrol for mama kitty's pain? I know that when LS went through his surgery, that's what they gave us for him (not that he needed it, the fast healer that he was! I have a bit left over even), and that's one that's safe for cats (unlike Tylenol, which is poisonous, or aspirin, which can cause problems. I think three full tablets cost something like $9 and we only had to give him a quarter of a pill at once, so it was like a 4 days supply. (Geez, if you were closer, I'd just give you these leftovers!)

It sounds very much to me like she was kicked, and it could easily have caused internal injuries. Make sure to give her very easy access to litter, water, and food (it sounds like you are already doing this). Pedialyte is a good idea, if she isn't drinking much, then I'd syringe it into her to help keep her hydrated. If she is drinking water and peeing, that's a good first step, but I'd be real happy to hear she'd been able to move her bowels. Foodwise, kitten food is a good idea, she needs the extra nutrients and fat right now, and the KMR would be wonderful to add to her food (and it won't cause her to lactate if she isn't).

Definitely make sure you have a nice cushy soft bed for her to lay on, and everything very close so that she doesn't have to go far to get anything. Lucky for cats, they are great at healing, so with time, and some TLC, she could come out of this wonderfully. I sure wish I had all the answers for you in this situation.

morrigen
August 8th, 2004, 08:18 PM
I only just saw this thread....I remember what a brave little thing she was when she was having her kittens......I''m sitting here in tears.....the poor, dear thing...

I truly hope your SIL gets what's coming to her...she should never be allowed to own an animal again...I don't undertand how ayone could be so horrid...

I'm glad you've taken her in permanantly...I will send energy for her healing...so much hope to her....

You're a god and kind person, Shanti, and although I wish poor mommacat didn't have to go through the trauma at your SIL's, I'm glad she's found a home with you.

Get better, little one...

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 08:20 PM
Perhaps if you talked to your vet, he would be able to give you some Torbutrol for mama kitty's pain? I know that when LS went through his surgery, that's what they gave us for him (not that he needed it, the fast healer that he was! I have a bit left over even), and that's one that's safe for cats (unlike Tylenol, which is poisonous, or aspirin, which can cause problems. I think three full tablets cost something like $9 and we only had to give him a quarter of a pill at once, so it was like a 4 days supply. (Geez, if you were closer, I'd just give you these leftovers!)

It sounds very much to me like she was kicked, and it could easily have caused internal injuries. Make sure to give her very easy access to litter, water, and food (it sounds like you are already doing this). Pedialyte is a good idea, if she isn't drinking much, then I'd syringe it into her to help keep her hydrated. If she is drinking water and peeing, that's a good first step, but I'd be real happy to hear she'd been able to move her bowels. Foodwise, kitten food is a good idea, she needs the extra nutrients and fat right now, and the KMR would be wonderful to add to her food (and it won't cause her to lactate if she isn't).

Definitely make sure you have a nice cushy soft bed for her to lay on, and everything very close so that she doesn't have to go far to get anything. Lucky for cats, they are great at healing, so with time, and some TLC, she could come out of this wonderfully. I sure wish I had all the answers for you in this situation.
Thanks but Torbutrol cant be given to kits under 4 months. The kittens may begin nursing again so I dont want to take that risk. My vet wouldnt either.

She does have a bed, in my bedroom. Its been hers since day 1 when she first came here. She and the kits are safely locked up in my room. This way the dogs and kids and noise wont be an issue. They have the hole room for themselves and ya everything is accessable, easily but mom cat only attempts to eat if I hand feed her. The water dish, I prop up for her so she doesnt have to bend, since she wont. She hasnt eaten more since that 1 tablespoon earlier. I am using a syringe for water, pedialite and little amounts of kitten formula.
No poop yet, but she isnt eating for a darn. In total from what I know...she has eaten only that one tablespoon of food in the last 44 hrs. The convalescent supplement and the digestive aide are real easy to get in her. One is thick and milky like and sticky so it sticks to her tounge. and the other is like gooey jello. I put that in her cheek. She swallows it good that way. So I am getting that stuff in her.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 08:31 PM
Now I am wondering about food. The SIL doesnt have any cats and she doesnt have cat food in her house. She didnt have a litter box when she took mom cat back and I had to give her an extra old one I had. She said she would get food but when she gave mom cat back, she gave me my litter box back but no food. She has her fancy pedagree dog on special food. So why didnt she give the cat food she would of had left? She did refuse to buy mom 2 cat boxes like I suggested, mine was free of course.
Why did they even want this cat back? When they found out that my MIL didnt want it anymore, why did they take it when they dont want cats because they say one child is severly allergic, hense the MIL taking it.

I dont get it. Heck I dont get how they could consider a cat theirs when it never lived with them in the first place!!! They got it free from a farm and took it by the MIL right away cause it was for one of their kids but the other kid was allergic. Then when they do deside to take the cat home, they dont have a litter box or anything and they mooch off me. She did ask me for food but I still had the kits to feed so I told her to run to the store in town here and buy some!! Now I wonder if she even did.

I'll probably never know what happened to mom cat in that awful 48 hrs. :(

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 08:34 PM
I only just saw this thread....I remember what a brave little thing she was when she was having her kittens......I''m sitting here in tears.....the poor, dear thing...

I truly hope your SIL gets what's coming to her...she should never be allowed to own an animal again...I don't undertand how ayone could be so horrid...

I'm glad you've taken her in permanantly...I will send energy for her healing...so much hope to her....

You're a god and kind person, Shanti, and although I wish poor mommacat didn't have to go through the trauma at your SIL's, I'm glad she's found a home with you.

Get better, little one... Now I am crying again. I hope she pulls through so she can have the life she deserves. I just want her to purr and talk again. She still isnt talking to her kits....that really bothers me since she is very talkative with them normally.

I do believe when emotion is moved to the point of tears, then the strongest power flows. So, the power has to be flowing.

Thank You.

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 09:51 PM
Well we know now something bad happened. My SO had time to look mom cat over. I cant see to well close up on multicolored things. He noticed that her nose didnt look right. He found a sore and a lump on her nose. Then he found a bruise and scraped skin on the side of her head. He found dried blood on the side of her jaw. He found a slit skin injury on her belly, the skin is split open. He found a sore area on her leg, that bled.

We are figuring out who to re-arrange bills so we can barrow from one place to get the money to take her to the vet. Now I think I know why she hasnt been able to go poo. I am scared to death that she is broken up on the inside.

Hope
August 8th, 2004, 09:51 PM
(((HUGS))) I just saw this

shakes head

any chance she was poisoned? D con?

calm and comfort to you all and i am sorry but this witch thinks some people need an energy slap on occassion

leaving it at that

love
hope

Isil Darkmoon
August 8th, 2004, 10:01 PM
Well we know now something bad happened. My SO had time to look mom cat over. I cant see to well close up on multicolored things. He noticed that her nose didnt look right. He found a sore and a lump on her nose. Then he found a bruise and scraped skin on the side of her head. He found dried blood on the side of her jaw. He found a slit skin injury on her belly, the skin is split open. He found a sore area on her leg, that bled.

We are figuring out who to re-arrange bills so we can barrow from one place to get the money to take her to the vet. Now I think I know why she hasnt been able to go poo. I am scared to death that she is broken up on the inside.

I'm so sorry to hear that, shanti... some people are just horrible. She sounds like she's actually doing quite well for all she's been through. I knwo you've been reluctant to start a family feud until now, but is this osmething you'd be willing to file an animal abuse/animal cruelty charge against her for? If the enivorunemtn for animals is so dangerous over there, she REALLY needs to be banned from having any more, even her beloved purebred dogs, and evn if there's no fine or anything else, a conviction can keep her from owning any more pets... it's something I"d seirously consider in your shoes, family or no.

Don't be convinced of seroius intenral damage yet, though. It could very well be that she hasn't been able to poo because she wasn't FED over there. It's common for then to not pass anything solid for a couple days after taking in no solids. If you can get a little bit of u +canfood in her (I'm all for watering down soft food/milk supliment int oa paste you can syringe-feed her, since she seems to be accepting that well..

My rescue, LIttle Miss, sends her love and wellwishes too-she's sitting on the keyboard, all typos are hers ^_^

Shanti
August 8th, 2004, 10:34 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that, shanti... some people are just horrible. She sounds like she's actually doing quite well for all she's been through. I knwo you've been reluctant to start a family feud until now, but is this osmething you'd be willing to file an animal abuse/animal cruelty charge against her for? If the enivorunemtn for animals is so dangerous over there, she REALLY needs to be banned from having any more, even her beloved purebred dogs, and evn if there's no fine or anything else, a conviction can keep her from owning any more pets... it's something I"d seirously consider in your shoes, family or no.

Don't be convinced of seroius intenral damage yet, though. It could very well be that she hasn't been able to poo because she wasn't FED over there. It's common for then to not pass anything solid for a couple days after taking in no solids. If you can get a little bit of u +canfood in her (I'm all for watering down soft food/milk supliment int oa paste you can syringe-feed her, since she seems to be accepting that well..

My rescue, LIttle Miss, sends her love and wellwishes too-she's sitting on the keyboard, all typos are hers ^_^
My SO are discussing what we may and can do. The desion isnt desided yet. We are pretty upset. My good SIL is coming over tomarrow, from a differant town, to help out and talk about all this. She is madder than heck.

Thanks Isil.

Isil Darkmoon
August 8th, 2004, 10:37 PM
My SO are discussing what we may and can do. The desion isnt desided yet. We are pretty upset. My good SIL is coming over tomarrow, from a differant town, to help out and talk about all this. She is madder than heck.

Thanks Isil.

Oh good, someone in your inlaws who's not insane :) I'm glad she's wanting to help.

It's also fantastic that your son is taking Sky later on. He sounds like he'll be a great home for the kit. I was quite fond of the "on i'll wait several months since that's best for him" part.

Earthy
August 9th, 2004, 02:36 AM
Well we know now something bad happened. My SO had time to look mom cat over. I cant see to well close up on multicolored things. He noticed that her nose didnt look right. He found a sore and a lump on her nose. Then he found a bruise and scraped skin on the side of her head. He found dried blood on the side of her jaw. He found a slit skin injury on her belly, the skin is split open. He found a sore area on her leg, that bled.

We are figuring out who to re-arrange bills so we can barrow from one place to get the money to take her to the vet. Now I think I know why she hasnt been able to go poo. I am scared to death that she is broken up on the inside.

Oh Shanti,i was almost in tears reading that.For the life of me,i can't understand how anybody could treat an animal so badly :hugz:
Praying that you find a way to visit the vets,praying for healing for your mom cat.

mara
August 9th, 2004, 02:58 AM
I feel so bad about this. Years ago before I knew better I used to breed Persian cats..I used to use KMR and something called NutriCal..It comes in a tube sort of like hairball remedy. cats like it and it has a lot of vitamins and has a lot of calories.I;'m sure you probably already know this, but just in case.. Egg whites aren't good for cats, but the yolks are okay.Regular milk will usually give cats diarrhea because most are lactose intollerant. Good luck Shanti... you're a good soul for putting up with what you have been and still being willing to help this cat.

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 09:20 AM
Update. I got a hold of the vat. We talked about all the possibilities. I could spend a fortune in test and end up putting her down in the long haul if he found her seriously injured because we couldnt afford surguries and he said time wise, infections right now are most dangerous. The first thing that takes priority, he said is to treat her for the possibility of an internal infection as bruising to soft tissue almost assures infection. So under our circumstances he is giving me injectable pennisillian. I have to go pick it up this after noon. He knows I know how to use injectables. He figures if she has soft tissue bruising, pennisillian will stop any infections in their tracks and we should see major improvement in 24 hrs. If we dont see substantial change in 24 hrs, we will discuss what we want to do next. My good SIL will be doing the running for the supplies from the vet this afternoon.

One good thing. Mom cat got up this morning by herself and walked to her food. She only took a couple of licks but I see that as a sign that she 'wants' to get better. She used her litter box, but no poo yet. She is doing really good with the supportive goop from the vet and she likes the kit fromula, mixed with food to make a paiste like ISIL suggested, in a syringe. She took a hole syringe full last night. To me it was discusting, but to her it seemed delicious!! :)

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 10:34 AM
She purred for me!!!!! And she did it standing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope the purr said "I'll get through this" !!!!!!!!!!

Earthy
August 9th, 2004, 11:04 AM
She purred for me!!!!! And she did it standing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope the purr said "I'll get through this" !!!!!!!!!!

:bouncybob :bouncybob Yaay!!! :)

Khuinaset
August 9th, 2004, 11:29 AM
I'm so glad mom cat's getting better Shanti! :boing:

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 11:31 AM
I hope she is getting better. A purr means a lot but I would really like to see her feed herself and poop. I also would like to see her drink water too.

Lunacie
August 9th, 2004, 12:07 PM
I'm still sending Reiki healing energy for mama cat, with all the energy and love that everyone here is sending along with the penecillan and her will to get better I think she'll be all better before too long. Hugs for you Shanti for being such a caring cat person and calming energies for all the worry you've had.

Old Witch
August 9th, 2004, 12:07 PM
Energy flowing to this dear little Mama cat..........

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 12:22 PM
I'm still sending Reiki healing energy for mama cat, with all the energy and love that everyone here is sending along with the penecillan and her will to get better I think she'll be all better before too long. Hugs for you Shanti for being such a caring cat person and calming energies for all the worry you've had.
Gosh I havent thought of calm or anything I feel other than the desire for mom cat to be ok and the guilt for letting that so and so take her.
I have been so busy, that my brain has paused to type and to run at sonic speed, but I dint feel like I have stopped to contimplate.

The biggest time my emotions capture all thought is in the morning. I am so scared mom cat didnt make it through the night. Then when I see she did..boom. Gota take care of her, feed, water, give her the goop stuff and then, kids, other creatures, house, SO, and mom cat inbetwee. At one point today, I stood in the living room, trying to figure out what those things where I was about to do. Heck, I just realised its 11:22 am and I have been up since 6 am and I still havent changed cloths, or brushed my hair or anything....oh heck, I forgot my meds for my allergies, heck, when I do that, I pay a dear price later.......be back in a min!!!!!

Boogins
August 9th, 2004, 12:48 PM
Lighting a candle for mom cat, and one for you! I hope she gets better. :( :hugz:

Avalon
August 9th, 2004, 01:57 PM
Energy for Mom Cat...>^..^< :hugz:

Empress Stillnight
August 9th, 2004, 02:06 PM
Shanti,
I got a feeling that something was wrong when I went into the teaching thread. Poor mom cat, she's been through so much! She's so fortunate to have you and your family to care about her. Love can do wonderful things. I am positive that being back with you is helping her in her fight for life. She has a wonderful, loving family to live for now.

I wish I could send you some money, but we are so broke this week, we can't pay our car insurance.I'm sending positive, loving energy your way, though.

Maurigan
August 9th, 2004, 04:16 PM
I'm so sorry to hear about you poor little queen, Shanti, I will send lots of Reiki for her.

she may be just bruised and have some torn muscles, one of my cats was picked up by the belly and shaken by a terrier. She was very sore at first and found it hard to move about much for a few days.

I'm sure she'll pull through with all the love and TLC you give her.

good luck and blessings to you and her. :)

Nighthawk
August 9th, 2004, 04:31 PM
This is the first time I have seen this.... I hope she recovers.. come on , kitty

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 04:46 PM
Well, before I go to get the meds, I have new info. My good SIL found out that my nasty SIL never fed the cat while she had it!!!! GGGRRRRRR. She wasnt in a hurry to buy food because she didnt know if she wanted to keep the cat. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR

Why did she take it then? !!!!!!! Talk about scenseless cruelity.

Nighthawk
August 9th, 2004, 04:50 PM
she took a cat, and didn't feed it??? Umm, sorry, but how stupid is this person?

Lunacie
August 9th, 2004, 04:58 PM
I thought that was what I was picking up, that Mama cat hadn't been fed while at the other house. Which actually may be a good thing if things got torn inside her, but it will take a while for her to get her digestive system started working again after fasting for so many hours. Did the vet say how long to stay with soft food before offering solid food again?

morrigen
August 9th, 2004, 07:36 PM
She purred for me!!!!! And she did it standing up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope the purr said "I'll get through this" !!!!!!!!!!

That sounds very promising :)

I'll continue sending energy till we know she's better.

morrigen
August 9th, 2004, 07:37 PM
Well, before I go to get the meds, I have new info. My good SIL found out that my nasty SIL never fed the cat while she had it!!!! GGGRRRRRR. She wasnt in a hurry to buy food because she didnt know if she wanted to keep the cat. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR

Why did she take it then? !!!!!!! Talk about scenseless cruelity.

I'd be seriously considering reporting her...she shouldn't have animals....

OriginalWacky
August 9th, 2004, 07:41 PM
Well, before I go to get the meds, I have new info. My good SIL found out that my nasty SIL never fed the cat while she had it!!!! GGGRRRRRR. She wasnt in a hurry to buy food because she didnt know if she wanted to keep the cat. GGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR

Why did she take it then? !!!!!!! Talk about scenseless cruelity.
Oh gods. Is this woman The Mate's ex or something? I'm just sputtering here, thinking about it.

Will your vet take payments on treatment? I don't get paid until Friday, but I bet I could sneak a bit off to you via PayPal or something to help out just a little. I so hate to hear about animals suffering like this.

At least it sounds like she is rallying a little bit, and trying to eat and move around. Frickin Frackin nasty SIL.

Holly Ariadna
August 9th, 2004, 07:42 PM
This is so sad.. :( I don't understand how someone can be that cruel to an animal!!! I wish I could send you some money but I'm really broke, so I guess energies and prayers will have to do. :hugz: Give her a kiss from me!!

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 08:38 PM
I thought that was what I was picking up, that Mama cat hadn't been fed while at the other house. Which actually may be a good thing if things got torn inside her, but it will take a while for her to get her digestive system started working again after fasting for so many hours. Did the vet say how long to stay with soft food before offering solid food again? She is on goop and formula just because we cant get enough solids in her. If she willing would take solids, she could have them.

The digestive aide we are giving her is suppost to keep her digestive system going. Its got live good bacteria in it so even if she cant digest well, the aide will do it for her.

She likes the goop and the digestive aide. Or at least she doesnt fight when I squish the stuff in her mouth!

We are gonna keep up with the formula and gooey food mess we make for syringe feeding.

We got the penicilian. Its warming to room temp now. He gave us the 48 penicillian so if she needs another dose, she wont have to be poked for 48 hrs. We should, if things go well, improvement by tomarrow.

I got my fingers crossed.

And for all that offered to help...thank you. Its ok. I am putting off the phone bill and the washer is still puttering along so I dont need to put money on the side for that, yet.

My SO is also getting an old boat of ours fixed up enough to sell by the side of the road and he has an antique car for parts that he is going to stick by the road. Hey its old crap but any cash we get is cash we didnt have before!!! :)

Llewyth
August 9th, 2004, 08:53 PM
You got a camera Shanti? Take pictures of the injuries and report this "maudite maniaque mentale d'sti!" Sorry, the french comes out when I'm pissed. This is incredible. My gut says she was kicked. My heart goes out to you Shanti and your kitty mama. This will blow over in a week. Hang on! :hugz:

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 09:23 PM
Pics wont work. Heck I didnt even notice her injuries. My SO hunted for them because of the hair and colors..tortishell. The bruising is hard to see with out bright light and several hands to comb through hair and her scrapes didnt remove hair. Her split skin is a pressure injury. I was a taxidermist and when you have a fast hit, on animals with thin skin like cats and rabbits and such, you get this effect where the top couple of layers of skin split and pull back. The remaining laters stay intact. The hair stays in place because those top layers of skin slide right through the hairs. It a taxidermist nightmare when mounting road kill. Anyhow it the equivalent of a stretch mark being made in a split second instead of over months. The impact can be caused car or shoe or any fast, hard hit!!

Heck I didnt notice her nose!!! Her nose is multi colored so I didnt see the little scab and the bump matched the color changes so, optically, its hard to see but easy to feel.

Hey, My bad SIL, today, told my good SIL that the cat was fine when it left her house. Then later she lost track of what she said and she said the cat was that way(messed up) when she got it!!!

Its nothing but lying and crap. The humane society wont do anything. Its word against word and 100k and a fancy perfect home vrs low income and trailer trash. My good SIL says just screw them all and let it be. I just closed the door on those people. I told my good SIL and my SO that I dont want anything to do with those people and I will not. Period.
Both my SO and good SIL respect my feelings. Heck, its not my family! My family respects life of all kinds. My SO's family, except the good SIL, never liked me anyhow. I am an embaressment because of mine and my SO's age differance. So now they dont have to be worried about seeing me and my SO together! They just aint worth my time.

My MIL said, to my good SIL that she wont take the cat if I offer it!!!! My good SIL laughed and said that I have assumed ownership and will never let anyone in that family go near any of my animals.

Shanti
August 9th, 2004, 09:41 PM
I gave her the shot. I put it in her thigh muscle. Heck, she lost so much weight it was hard to find a good spot with meat in it!!!

The clock starts ticking now....24 hrs we should notice improvment!!! I hope so. I am more tense now than before. I think its because that has to help and make a differance. It has to.

Oh yeah, mom cat didnt react to the pain of the poke or when I plunged the drug in. And the needle did wiggle a hair when I pulled the plunger to make sure I didnt hit a vein. I thought she would of flinched but she layed there with no re-action. I hope it was because she knew we are helping her, and not because she is in that much pain that the shot wasnt nothing.

morrigen
August 9th, 2004, 10:38 PM
Pics wont work. Heck I didnt even notice her injuries. My SO hunted for them because of the hair and colors..tortishell. The bruising is hard to see with out bright light and several hands to comb through hair and her scrapes didnt remove hair. Her split skin is a pressure injury. I was a taxidermist and when you have a fast hit, on animals with thin skin like cats and rabbits and such, you get this effect where the top couple of layers of skin split and pull back. The remaining laters stay intact. The hair stays in place because those top layers of skin slide right through the hairs. It a taxidermist nightmare when mounting road kill. Anyhow it the equivalent of a stretch mark being made in a split second instead of over months. The impact can be caused car or shoe or any fast, hard hit!!

Heck I didnt notice her nose!!! Her nose is multi colored so I didnt see the little scab and the bump matched the color changes so, optically, its hard to see but easy to feel.

Hey, My bad SIL, today, told my good SIL that the cat was fine when it left her house. Then later she lost track of what she said and she said the cat was that way(messed up) when she got it!!!

Its nothing but lying and crap. The humane society wont do anything. Its word against word and 100k and a fancy perfect home vrs low income and trailer trash. My good SIL says just screw them all and let it be. I just closed the door on those people. I told my good SIL and my SO that I dont want anything to do with those people and I will not. Period.
Both my SO and good SIL respect my feelings. Heck, its not my family! My family respects life of all kinds. My SO's family, except the good SIL, never liked me anyhow. I am an embaressment because of mine and my SO's age differance. So now they dont have to be worried about seeing me and my SO together! They just aint worth my time.

My MIL said, to my good SIL that she wont take the cat if I offer it!!!! My good SIL laughed and said that I have assumed ownership and will never let anyone in that family go near any of my animals.


You might be on a low income, but you are not *any* kind of trash.....you're worth more than that whole bunch of in-laws wrapped up together...and no-one knows that better than Mommacat.

I don't blame you one little bit for telling them to go to hades...

And I'll keep my fingers crossed that the penicillin does wonders.

zakzekezedd
August 9th, 2004, 10:59 PM
Shanti...I hope that things are still going "well" with mom cat. It just makes me so furious when I hear about an animal being so badly mistreated. One trick I've always had good luck with when I've had a kitty "off it's feed" is to mix a bit of jarred baby food with a bit of regular cat food. Add just enough water to make a nice "pudding" of it all and warm it a tiny bit in the microwave to help enhance the odor (which tends to act as an appetite stimulant in most cats). I've nursed several senior citizens with this method and it has worked well. I find the lamb and rice or turkey and rice baby foods work best because they are very easy to digest.

WolfMoon
August 9th, 2004, 11:02 PM
Fingers crossed, Shanti! We're pulling for the Little Momma over here!

What sons of .... GRAH!!!! Poor Mommacat.... I don't think it was the Boston terrier, my parents have those and they're generally very good with cats. This sounds like a beating, plain and simple. And then the BT (Boston terrier) came over and snuffled.

Khuinaset
August 9th, 2004, 11:29 PM
You might be on a low income, but you are not *any* kind of trash.....you're worth more than that whole bunch of in-laws wrapped up together...and no-one knows that better than Mommacat.

I don't blame you one little bit for telling them to go to hades...

And I'll keep my fingers crossed that the penicillin does wonders.

:uhhuhuh: what she said. I haven't been here for too long, but you've definitely stuck out as one of the kindest and most helpful members of the community, and this is being proven by you keeping mom-cat, I know people who would have just let her die, especially if they were strapped for money. I really hope the penicillin helps, and I hope your in-laws get what's coming to them. it makes me absolutely furious almost to tears to hear about anyone mistreating an animal that badly.

*hugs* and prayers for you and mom kitty!

Starbaby
August 9th, 2004, 11:57 PM
I completely agree with Morrigan!! You are NOT trailer trash!! If anything, the SIL is.. You can live in the nicest homes and have all the money in the world, and still be trash. I hope that Mom Cat is better. As a fellow cat lover, I send you both love and energy!

MzNeko
August 10th, 2004, 01:41 AM
...Its word against word and 100k and a fancy perfect home vrs low income and trailer trash...

If there's any "trash" in this equation, it's NOT the folks living in the trailer.

If you ever decide to smack the crap out of your in-laws, throw in a little extra elbow from me!

Got my fingers crossed for poor momma kitty, too. You are such a beautiful person, Shanti.

Earthy
August 10th, 2004, 02:22 AM
I agree.There's no way you are trash Shanti.You are a wonderful human being with so much love...something your SIL obviously lacks,if she can treat an animal this way.

Hope the injection is starting to help now and you'll be seeing improvement soon :hugz:

Yvonne Belisle
August 10th, 2004, 02:31 AM
I will keep sending energy to the kitty. I hope she gets better quick.

Holly Ariadna
August 10th, 2004, 08:22 AM
You got a camera Shanti? Take pictures of the injuries and report this "maudite maniaque mentale d'sti!" Sorry, the french comes out when I'm pissed. This is incredible. My gut says she was kicked. My heart goes out to you Shanti and your kitty mama. This will blow over in a week. Hang on! :hugz:

I gotta say, you're right about her being une maudite maniaque mentale, she should be behind bars!!!

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 10:37 AM
Good news I would think!!!

Mom woke me up this morning........she meowed!!!!!!
She is walking around, Not pacing. She gets up, walks around then lays down for a little while and then takes a walk again. She has not really walked on her own. I usually have to pick her up to get her started.

She isnt eating food or drinking water on her own yet but.....
She did drink 1/8 of a cup of kitten formula on her own out of a bowl!!!!!!

No poo yet.

But hey, baby steps...she did drink formula and walk and meow all on her own!!!!!!:bouncysmi

I think when she does do that first poo in her box, telling me that her gut works, it will be major celebration around here!!!

Caffiend
August 10th, 2004, 10:50 AM
This just makes me want to cry. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but felt compelled to send energy right away!! Love and energy to kitty and you for being so caring!

Lunacie
August 10th, 2004, 11:04 AM
Oh yeah, that was the other thing I was trying to remember to express yesterday. Bowel function usually declines when we become less active. Now that MamaCat is up and trying to move around that should move things on through her system so that she starts pooping. :)

zakzekezedd
August 10th, 2004, 11:25 AM
Glad to hear that Mom cat is starting to act a bit more like herself. Sometimes time itself is the best medicine--even if we impatient humans all go gray and frazzled with worry. As to the lowlife scum responsible for this whole mess....well, karma (or whatever you feel comfortable calling it) is a wonderous thing, they will get theirs somewhere down the road.
And just my 2 cents worth--financial status is not now, nor never has been an indication of a person's true worth. You may live in a trailer, and not have a lot of money in the bank, but you're spirit is worth a million times more than the small vicious individual who could hurt an innocent animal so cruelly.

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 11:32 AM
Oh yeah, that was the other thing I was trying to remember to express yesterday. Bowel function usually declines when we become less active. Now that MamaCat is up and trying to move around that should move things on through her system so that she starts pooping. :)
I hope with all my heart that you are sooooooooooo right!
I am suppose to keep the digestive aide going untill she is doing her business and its all normal again.

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 11:52 AM
Thank you all for the kind words and support....hopefully, soon, I will be able to celebrate here!

Tullip Troll
August 10th, 2004, 12:12 PM
Perhaps your bad SIL will one life find herself in the same position as Mom cat, perhaps then she will understand.

MheraPai...

I wish I had the ability to make someone feel and be in someone else's shoe's or paws

Rowan MoonDragon
August 10th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Sweetie, I just read this. Energy on the way from me....poor Mama kitty. and I agree with the other posts....just becasue you are broke and you live in a trailer doesn't mean you are trash. You can have ANY amount of money and be trash. Its how you treat people and other living beings that makes you trash. You kep doing what you're doing, honey! Mama kitty is lucky to have you in her life! ((((((((((Shanti & Mama kitty))))))))))

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 03:40 PM
She is eating canned food!!!!!! She is doing it all by herself!!!!! :)

Isil Darkmoon
August 10th, 2004, 03:49 PM
YAY! Oh I'm so happy for the little girl! *big kitty hugs*

OriginalWacky
August 10th, 2004, 04:30 PM
She is eating canned food!!!!!! She is doing it all by herself!!!!! :)
Yay!!! It sounds like she is improving hourly, and that's awesome. Still a candle lit here for her.

Oh, and on that whole "trash" thing? You are so not white (or purple or plaid) trash.

Trash is the kind of person like our neighbors. They have dogs that just get tied outside most of the day to cry and yelp, without water or food. (Yes, I've called animal control, and nothing gets done.) They don't do much more than scream at the dogs, and then they go and bring them into OUR yard to crap.

Trash is the kind of person who cannot afford to pay their utility bill, so that their home has heat for the children... but by gods they have a $3000 stereo in ther piece of junk car!

Trash is the kind of person that calls their children things that I wouldn't dream of typing here because I'd get booted out in a heartbeat.

Trash is the kind of person who trespasses on a neighbor's property, and pushes a crippled man to the ground, sending him to the hospital... and then laughing at him and making fun of him while he waits for the ambulance and police!

Whooops, sorry, got on a bit of a rant there. ::shuts up::

Khuinaset
August 10th, 2004, 05:25 PM
I'm glad mom-cat's feeling better! :) :woot:

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 05:35 PM
OriginalWacky, Thank you for your words. I remember when your mate got hurt. You are sure right about what trash is. Thank you. ~hugs~

Amethyst Rose
August 10th, 2004, 06:00 PM
Oh that poor kitty.... I'm so glad to hear that she's doing a bit better. Regardless, if you find you need more cash to help her out, pm me and I'll send you what I can.

morrigen
August 10th, 2004, 06:33 PM
She is eating canned food!!!!!! She is doing it all by herself!!!!! :)

*big smile* That's wonderful, so much of an improvement from yesterday!

KimberSly
August 10th, 2004, 10:25 PM
Shanti,
reading all these posts was like a journey. First she was sick, then you couldn't afford treatment for a while (I was wishing I could have sent money!) and now she's slowly getting better. I'm going to light a candle for mom cat tonight. I hope with all my heart that she gets fully better. At least she's in a good home that loves her. :)

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 10:29 PM
Oh that poor kitty.... I'm so glad to hear that she's doing a bit better. Regardless, if you find you need more cash to help her out, pm me and I'll send you what I can.
Thanks Amethyst, but hopefully we wont even have to worrie about it. Hopefully the penicillian treatments will do the trick....and time.

If not, we will work something out. We are preparing.

Thank you again. ~hugs~

Shanti
August 10th, 2004, 10:32 PM
Shanti,
reading all these posts was like a journey. First she was sick, then you couldn't afford treatment for a while (I was wishing I could have sent money!) and now she's slowly getting better. I'm going to light a candle for mom cat tonight. I hope with all my heart that she gets fully better. At least she's in a good home that loves her. :)
We obtained a little debt but we will survive, if we have to go deeper, we will.
I just want her to make it.

There are so many possibilities and hurdles we and mom cat may have to over come but as long as she wants to try....we will.
Thank you.

VroomBroom
August 11th, 2004, 01:39 AM
Shanti, from the sounds of your first post, she sounds just like a cat of mine that was attacked by dogs.:(
I hope you are able to nurse her back to health, mine unfortunatly had to be laid to rest from his attack.
Good luck with the Healing........

Llewyth
August 11th, 2004, 08:49 AM
Oh good! Shes doing better! I still think about you guys! Shanti don't you dare belittle yourself like that! You are one of my top ten favorite people on MW! Kind of a role model for me even! You've more guts & heart than the average person.

It's too bad you're far away from my dad, he's in Florida. He used to fix home appliances, I'm sure he would fix your washer for free. I'm still pondering on that particular problem...

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 09:11 AM
Oh good! Shes doing better! I still think about you guys! Shanti don't you dare belittle yourself like that! You are one of my top ten favorite people on MW! Kind of a role model for me even! You've more guts & heart than the average person.

It's too bad you're far away from my dad, he's in Florida. He used to fix home appliances, I'm sure he would fix your washer for free. I'm still pondering on that particular problem...
Thank you so much.

Gosh, I didnt realise who many people cared so much till recently. I obviuosly made some good friends here.

My washers still chugging along. I am severly behind because of doing small loads and not moving fast enough. I am so pre-occupied with so many other things!!!! But fixing it is on hold. We will get to it later. My DIL is going to pick up some of my laundry this weekend to do for me at her house. She too is trying to find ways to help, and that will be a big help!!

Thank you again for the re-assurance and words of care. ~hugs~

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 09:50 AM
Mom cat woke me up this morning again but this time she meowed and meowed. She was hungry!!!!! She didnt want the dry food I left out. She wanted the canned food. The only catch....I have to sit with her or she wont eat!! I dont mind. I sit and pet her and she purrs and eats. She doesnt eat much as she should but she has gone through a long time on liquids in a syringe so I figure she needs to work her way up to normal amounts.
She talked to her kits this morning when I brought them to her!!! It sounded wonderful!!! She didnt mind them jumping all over her.

She also is cleaning herself again. She had totally stopped that since this began. I was happy to see her clean herself..I always felt that when an animal grooms themself, they feel emotional good.

No poo yet. Still waiting. She doesnt sit in her litter box for 15 minutes like she did before. She jumps in, pees and jumps out.....'jumps'!!! :) So I am assuming the urge to poo hasnt risen yet. hopefully today she will give me the present!!

We are giving her the second shot today. The vet said even though she is doing better she should get the second and maybe a third shot. He wants to be sure nothing will cause a secondary prob and he wants to be sure anything thats may be bruised doesnt go bad. He said if she was at the clinic, they would do the same because any infection now could just spiral her down fast. Dont want to take chance now. She lost a lot of weight and she is so run down that something small could be just to much. I hate doing it but I dont want to take chances either. So he said poke...I will poke. Sorry kitty, I have too. :(

I asked his opinion on her known injuries. He said, car, abuse or animal attack can all cause the injuries we know she has. He is leaning toward car because almost everthing is on one side of her body, from the scrape on the side of her head to the scrape and bruise on her leg. My SIL wont admit if mom cat got out and hit by a car or attacked by a dog, if thats what happened, because she knows I'd choke her. Mom cat getting out was one thing I warned her about because mom was lightening when it comes to opening a door!

If mom cat did get hit by a car, isnt it nice that my SIL would call and say take the cat or I will dump it...she probably didnt want the bill. Heck she didnt want to buy a cat box!!! I had to give her one of mine even though I got 3 kits and no cash!! I can not understand people like her....damaged goods..here I dont want it now!!! GGGRRRRR. I wonder what they will do if her hubbys job gets shipped overseas? :) He works on the pc, at home, and gets 100k plus a yr!!! I know I wont feel sorry for them. I would love to say, "well you can go get a 'labor' job for 6 bucks an hour...better than nothing! Lower your standards..live within your means!! Drive a junker car!!!! HAHAHA"
Sorry, I am feeling evil.:devil:

Hey I think I am going through a process here. First I was depressed and scared, then major guilt now....hostle...anger! I hope this is good. Next I should feel accepting of it all and then be able to move past it all and be happy that mom cat is MINE!!!!!!!...Safe, loved and HOME!!! Forever!!!:boing:

Tullip Troll
August 11th, 2004, 09:55 AM
I am so happy for Mom Cat...she sounds like she is on the way to better.

I hope you can soon release the anger you feel...you are to nice a lady to spend so much time angry. Your bad SIL has not only hurt Mom cat but she has put a lot of anger in yur life and thats bad.

MheraPai

I am sending you some love as well...

Old Witch
August 11th, 2004, 09:56 AM
I've been reading this diligently........Looked up "trash " in the dictionary........Definition was a picture of your SIL.........It's great the kitty is getting better! Healing energy sent.......

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 09:58 AM
I am so happy for Mom Cat...she sounds like she is on the way to better.

I hope you can soon release the anger you feel...you are to nice a lady to spend so much time angry. Your bad SIL has not only hurt Mom cat but she has put a lot of anger in yur life and thats bad.

MheraPai

I am sending you some love as well...
I dont plan on dwelling on anger, just allowing it for a short time so I can move past it. Cant ignor the feelings, but cant allow them to brew any longer than needed for healing.

Thank you for your caring words and heart.

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 10:02 AM
I've been reading this diligently........Looked up "trash " in the dictionary........Definition was a picture of your SIL.........It's great the kitty is getting better! Healing energy sent.......
Thank you! I just looked up the deffinition...

Deffinition 1.4 A person or group of people regarded as worthless or contemptible.

Your right! Thats my SIL! :thumbsup:

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 11:33 AM
She did it!!!!!!!!!! She went doo doo in her box!!!!!!! It was rock hard and no blood or anything and it came out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


She pooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooed!!!!
:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob :bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob:bouncybob

Isil Darkmoon
August 11th, 2004, 11:46 AM
:fprtyman3 :cheers: :fprtyman3

yay for momcat! yay for shanti!

Grooming, and pooping, this morning! She's well on her way back!

Old Witch
August 11th, 2004, 01:21 PM
Yay!! :thewave:

What a .....different .....bunch of people we must be! Celebrating a cat ...going to the bathroom!! Who cares? WE DO!!! :fpompoms

Deranged Hermit
August 11th, 2004, 01:31 PM
That's great news!! Hip Hip Pooooooooray!!!
:boing: :boing:

Caffiend
August 11th, 2004, 01:34 PM
Yay!! :thewave:

What a .....different .....bunch of people we must be! Celebrating a cat ...going to the bathroom!! Who cares? WE DO!!! :fpompoms
Woohoo! Yippee!! I don't mind celebrating poopie! I am so happy for you and kitty!

Fairywolf
August 11th, 2004, 02:11 PM
OH Shanti I am so glad to hear that she is doing better. I just saw this today. Oh I would hurt your SIL if I could. Healing energies to your mom cat and calming energies for you. You are a great person and mom cat knows this. Both of you are in my thoughts and prayers. :hugz:

Shanti
August 11th, 2004, 02:22 PM
Thanks everyone!!! That was one poop I didnt mind scooping out of the litter box!!! If it wasnt poop I would frame it! LOL

Nighthawk
August 11th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WolfMoon
August 11th, 2004, 02:59 PM
:yourock: Shanti! Such tender care paid off! YAY for MommaCat!

And for the Evil One (aka SIL).... :fishsmack ...

Earthy
August 11th, 2004, 03:21 PM
Hurrah!!! momcat...fantastic news Shanti.:)

VroomBroom
August 11th, 2004, 04:44 PM
Poop, poop, pooray!!!!!:woot:

I'm gald to hear she is doing alot better this day!:D

Lunacie
August 11th, 2004, 04:47 PM
:boing::smile: :dancy: :bouncybob :uhhuhuh: :clapping:

That's wonderful. **happy sigh**

morrigen
August 11th, 2004, 06:41 PM
Oh YAAAAAY!!!!! :dancy:

She sounds like she's well on the way to recovery....*big smiles*

:hugz: for her, and :hugz: for Shanti...

HOORAY!!!!! :boing:

MzNeko
August 11th, 2004, 07:42 PM
Thanks everyone!!! That was one poop I didnt mind scooping out of the litter box!!! If it wasnt poop I would frame it! LOL

Weeeell... I suppose you could have it laquered and use it as a paperweight... :tongueout

That's great news! So is her grooming -- a cat that doesn't feel well enough to wash is in a bad way.

I'm so glad for you and for Momma cat.

OriginalWacky
August 11th, 2004, 08:22 PM
Yay!! :thewave:

What a .....different .....bunch of people we must be! Celebrating a cat ...going to the bathroom!! Who cares? WE DO!!! :fpompomsI was just thinking the very same thing. How many folks would see what we talk about here (things like this) and think we were all off our rockers?

I'm so happy I think I shall do the Poo Dance! :uhhuhuh:

Llewyth
August 11th, 2004, 09:32 PM
The Poo dance! :lol: Heck! I think I'll join you!

I have an idea for the poo.... it's childish but... Put it in a paper bag, drop it on your SIL's porch, light it on fire, then ring the bell! It's mean, but imagining it is "pooetic justice!" Ok that was lame, but I can laugh all by myself. :)

VroomBroom
August 11th, 2004, 10:20 PM
:rollingla

morrigen
August 12th, 2004, 07:34 AM
Llewyth...that would be *perfect*. :lol:

*does the poo dance*

Scarlettvixen
August 12th, 2004, 08:24 AM
:hugz:

Shanti, sorry this is the first time i have seen this thread
sending healing energies to mama cat and $$ energies to you guys

and may the karma of mama cats injuries visit yr sisterinlaw

Boogins
August 12th, 2004, 08:55 AM
:ringaroun Let's all do the poo dance!

Hurray for mom cat! I hope she sets completely better fast. :hugz:

KimberSly
August 12th, 2004, 11:21 AM
That's awesome! The night before she pooped I had a candle lit for her, that I left going all night. It finally went out around the time that you posted she did it! Yay for mom cat :D

Shanti
August 12th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Mom cat aint doing as well today. I cant even talk about it now.

I will be ignoring this thread for awhile because I am having a hard time right now.
I am discusted with vets..I was on the phone with several differant ones from the 2 cities closest to us this morning. They are all a bunch of greedy %&^%^* and I am hating them all right now!

Thay all are saying put her down...heck I cant even afford that since the cheapest is 75 dollars! I cant afford to try to save this cat and I cant afford to kill her either.
No one will do payments, no one cares.

I hate vets! They're no better than my SIL!

~Jaida~
August 12th, 2004, 02:53 PM
oh my! :geez: I wish I could send some money your way, but I am right now trying to save a little kitten of my own and struggling with money.

Sending energies your way and hoping that things look up again. What a roller coaster this has been for you so far! :hugz:

VroomBroom
August 12th, 2004, 03:08 PM
Shanti, I'm so sorry to her about her turn today:(
I agree with yo about the crap-headed vets. All the ones around here are the same damn way. I've bounced a check just to get care for one of mine.
I hope she makes another turn around for you hun:hugz:

morrigen
August 12th, 2004, 05:21 PM
Oh no...

The poor little one.... I shall send more energy her way...I wish I could do more....

Shanti, you're doing a marvelous job, hang in there sweetie. :hugz:

~Macha~
August 12th, 2004, 07:12 PM
Shanti-
She's in my thoughts love, as arer you...

WolfMoon
August 12th, 2004, 10:17 PM
Shanti, many :hugz: ... take a deep breath. We're all pulling for MommaCat.

(I still wanna smack that mean SIL with a fish...something around the sixe of a great white outta do it.)

docdoo
August 12th, 2004, 11:11 PM
Shanti,
I am so very sorry about your situation with the mother cat.

If you want to have her put down you may be able to call the humane society and have them do it cheaper. Many times they'll do it for about 20.00 bucks or so.

If that fails, and she's in bad shape, then a gun is quick and painless, as is a very sharp axe. If you're too squeamish to use either of those routes then placing her in a plastic bag and holding the bag around the muffler of the car will put her down as well...this is a 'cleaner' method (for you) but she will fight you and that can be heartwrenching.

Again, I'm sorry that she has taken a turn for the worst. *sighs* what a shame. My thoughts are with you on this.

Boogins
August 12th, 2004, 11:59 PM
Candles, candles, candles! I wish I could help more, Shanti. I dearly hope she gets better.

morrigen
August 13th, 2004, 02:04 AM
Doc, I don't know about the muffler thing...it's a very unpleasant way to go...I'm not having a go at you, I've just read the coroner's reports for people who have suicided that way....oh hell, I just can't take the thought of that valiant little cat going throug that...

Let's just hope it doesn't come to that. May the Gods heal her.

Sorry Doc, I know you have her best interests at heart.

VroomBroom
August 13th, 2004, 02:32 AM
Shanti,
I am so very sorry about your situation with the mother cat.

If you want to have her put down you may be able to call the humane society and have them do it cheaper. Many times they'll do it for about 20.00 bucks or so.

If that fails, and she's in bad shape, then a gun is quick and painless, as is a very sharp axe. If you're too squeamish to use either of those routes then placing her in a plastic bag and holding the bag around the muffler of the car will put her down as well...this is a 'cleaner' method (for you) but she will fight you and that can be heartwrenching.

Again, I'm sorry that she has taken a turn for the worst. *sighs* what a shame. My thoughts are with you on this.

:sadeyes: Oh my............

Caffiend
August 13th, 2004, 08:51 AM
:( Oh no! I'll try to send more energy to you both. Bless both your hearts!

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 08:55 AM
Shanti,
I am so very sorry about your situation with the mother cat.

If you want to have her put down you may be able to call the humane society and have them do it cheaper. Many times they'll do it for about 20.00 bucks or so.

If that fails, and she's in bad shape, then a gun is quick and painless, as is a very sharp axe. If you're too squeamish to use either of those routes then placing her in a plastic bag and holding the bag around the muffler of the car will put her down as well...this is a 'cleaner' method (for you) but she will fight you and that can be heartwrenching.

Again, I'm sorry that she has taken a turn for the worst. *sighs* what a shame. My thoughts are with you on this.
Thanks Docdoo,
Our humane society is about 40 miles away but I will call to see if they are cheaper and hopefully a little more compassionate. If mom cat gets any worse we will have to. I dont want her to suffer a slow death either. She is in pain and if she is not meant to recover, I can at least help her to suffer less. We talked about a gun, got a 20gz, but neither me nor my SO can do it. Hopefully the humane society can be of help if we are left with no more hope. It sucks to talk about these things but it is a fact of life, death. I hate it and its tearing me apart but I know there is a reason, even if I dont know what the reason is. Seeing her in pain is tearing me apart. Its all a nightmare.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 09:03 AM
Thanks everyone for the thoughts, energy, prayers and offers of help.

The onlything that keeps me hanging on to hope is that she still eats a little and uses her litter box. If she stops, it will probably be over. She is in pain. You cant touch her sides or belly without her yelling out and biting your hand. If she goes off food again under these circumstances, I cant try to force her to stay alive. That would be selfish on my part. I have to stop now. Its to much. I have to stay somewhat rational so I know what is the right thing to do.

Nighthawk
August 13th, 2004, 09:49 AM
Oh crap... I am so so so sorry..Shanti.... I do not know how to help... Try the humane soceity..... ummm, we can talk Monday...ok?

GryphonGirl
August 13th, 2004, 09:56 AM
Thanks everyone for the thoughts, energy, prayers and offers of help.

The onlything that keeps me hanging on to hope is that she still eats a little and uses her litter box. If she stops, it will probably be over. She is in pain. You cant touch her sides or belly without her yelling out and biting your hand. If she goes off food again under these circumstances, I cant try to force her to stay alive. That would be selfish on my part. I have to stop now. Its to much. I have to stay somewhat rational so I know what is the right thing to do.

It blows my mind that someone can be so cruel....I hope kitty will be okay, I send love and energy to you and her......

Valkie
August 13th, 2004, 11:18 AM
Maybe this isn't the best time to bring this up but better now than after she passes... if she does. Have you considered calling the police and reporting your SIL for animal cruelty? From the sound of things, there would be no love loss about it... and it sounds like a fairly solid case.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 11:23 AM
Maybe this isn't the best time to bring this up but better now than after she passes... if she does. Have you considered calling the police and reporting your SIL for animal cruelty? From the sound of things, there would be no love loss about it... and it sounds like a fairly solid case.
Its not open and shut. My SIL denieghs everything. She says she has no idea what happened.

She has a beautiful home with losts of money and she has a pedigree dog that is in top health and she lavishes the dog. So, its just word against word.
There are also kids in the house. How can I prove that someone in that house hurt the cat. The vet even said it appears to be a car in his opinion. They may have let it out. I just dont know. And if they were to say they let it out then there is no abuse, just an accident.
She has changed her story to others in her family but they wont help me.

Thanks anyhow.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 11:28 AM
Oh and in my opinion vets are totally guilty of abuse when they wont even work out a payment plan. Out here, its common policy not to. They all use the same excuse, if we do it for one we have to do it for all and we cant do that.

GryphonGirl
August 13th, 2004, 11:33 AM
Oh and in my opinion vets are totally guilty of abuse when they wont even work out a payment plan. Out here, its common policy not to. They all use the same excuse, if we do it for one we have to do it for all and we cant do that.
More grist for the evil Corporate Insurance Companies (pet insurance exists!!!) ....the conpiracy continues to grow, and the little people with their littler beloved pets get shafted. Oooh, a rant trying to get out.........

I am sooooo sorry Shanti.......

Earthy
August 13th, 2004, 11:34 AM
I'm so sorry Shanti...poor momcat :goodgrief :hugz:

Amethyst Rose
August 13th, 2004, 11:39 AM
Shanti,

When my familiar had a blockage in his bladder and I couldn't afford treatment, (I did the same thing as you, spent two hours on the phone calling every vet in the city to find one that would work out a payment plan and not a single one would), I called the SPCA and signed ownership of my cat over to them. They paid for him to have basic treatment and for him to eventually be put down, because they couldn't pay for extensive surgery. Maybe you should see if you can do that? :hugz: for you and mom cat.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 11:42 AM
More grist for the evil Corporate Insurance Companies (pet insurance exists!!!) ....the conpiracy continues to grow, and the little people with their littler beloved pets get shafted. Oooh, a rant trying to get out.........

I am sooooo sorry Shanti.......
One, I cant even afford insurance for the family, let alone pets and 2 its next to impossible to find a vet in boon town that takes the pet insurance. I checked that out when money wasnt so bad.

Thanks for the tip anyhow.

GryphonGirl
August 13th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Actually it wasn't a tip at all!! I was growling on your behalf BECAUSE of the insurance.....costs too much no matter what for anyone.....and then, usually someone ends up spending more time and money fighting with white shirts about what's covered.....no jabs to you here, love.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 11:48 AM
Shanti,

When my familiar had a blockage in his bladder and I couldn't afford treatment, (I did the same thing as you, spent two hours on the phone calling every vet in the city to find one that would work out a payment plan and not a single one would), I called the SPCA and signed ownership of my cat over to them. They paid for him to have basic treatment and for him to eventually be put down, because they couldn't pay for extensive surgery. Maybe you should see if you can do that? :hugz: for you and mom cat.
We are very rural. Out here you have to stay in your county. I already called the county humane society, which is all we got and no help. I didnt ask about them putting her down because I am not ready. There is nothing else out here other than vets and the county humane society.

Out in farm country not that many people run into these situations. Most have or know a farm where they just shoot animals that are bad off. I think that may be one reason vets out here charge so much for pets. The bulk of business is cattle and such. We dont have specialty vets like areas with big cities do. Even in our closest and only city in my county. its all equine, swine, and what not with cats and dogs thrown in.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 11:50 AM
Actually it wasn't a tip at all!! I was growling on your behalf BECAUSE of the insurance.....costs too much no matter what for anyone.....and then, usually someone ends up spending more time and money fighting with white shirts about what's covered.....no jabs to you here, love.
Thanks GG.

Its such a money driven society that compassion has died.
I wonder if vets take an oath?
But docs do and that doesnt always matter. :(

GryphonGirl
August 13th, 2004, 11:55 AM
Thanks GG.

Its such a money driven society that compassion has died.
I wonder if vets take an oath?
But docs do and that doesnt always matter. :(

All true, sadly.....I don't know if vets take an oath.......I think all of them, people docs and vets should be reassessed on a regular basis. Healing is an art, a science, and a gift.....the priviledge of being paid for doing it is obviously grossly under-valued and over paid......

Amethyst Rose
August 13th, 2004, 12:36 PM
We are very rural. Out here you have to stay in your county. I already called the county humane society, which is all we got and no help. I didnt ask about them putting her down because I am not ready. There is nothing else out here other than vets and the county humane society.

Out in farm country not that many people run into these situations. Most have or know a farm where they just shoot animals that are bad off. I think that may be one reason vets out here charge so much for pets. The bulk of business is cattle and such. We dont have specialty vets like areas with big cities do. Even in our closest and only city in my county. its all equine, swine, and what not with cats and dogs thrown in.


Well, my offer still stands. If you need help, pm me. :)

Llewyth
August 13th, 2004, 01:44 PM
You know, I was thinking. Is her belly more taught? Can you tell if the skin is very discolored? Does she have a fever?

Logically, someone with terminal injuries wouldn't eat at all, have a high fever despite the antibiotics wouldn't they? I don't think she could even use the kitty litter. All the cats I knew that we're on the verge of dying did things like lie in the litter box or they didn't even try to get there. They breathed hard and had a gkazed look in their eye, most don't even yelp in pain when they get that near.

I think, for now at least, she's ok. It's probably the bruising has set in and it's very painful to do anything. If something inside was pierced I think she'd be dead already by now or panting all the time and lying very still. Certainly not eating and peeing! I think her pain is a good thing right now; it's keeping her quiet so she can heal.

I am making any sense? :whatgives

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 02:05 PM
You know, I was thinking. Is her belly more taught? Can you tell if the skin is very discolored? Does she have a fever?

Logically, someone with terminal injuries wouldn't eat at all, have a high fever despite the antibiotics wouldn't they? I don't think she could even use the kitty litter. All the cats I knew that we're on the verge of dying did things like lie in the litter box or they didn't even try to get there. They breathed hard and had a gkazed look in their eye, most don't even yelp in pain when they get that near.

I think, for now at least, she's ok. It's probably the bruising has set in and it's very painful to do anything. If something inside was pierced I think she'd be dead already by now or panting all the time and lying very still. Certainly not eating and peeing! I think her pain is a good thing right now; it's keeping her quiet so she can heal.

I am making any sense? :whatgives Internal injuries dont always show up right away. Sometimes it take awhile, even with people. This I knew. My vet knew I knew. Thats why we went with the penicillian. Hoping it wouldnt be internal damage that would end like this. All along the possibility was there.

She stopped eating now and her belly is distended.
She is just laying and now doesnt want the kits around anymore. She pretty much is just at a 'leave me alone' point. I think its pretty much over.
Thanks to Yvonne Thomas's help, we found a solution to help her find peace. I just checked on her. I think me and my SO will be saying goodby tonight.

I need to go have a good cry and
try to find acceptance with all this so I can get through it.

Darn it i cant even type. i have edit this darn post like a dozen times! Darn it.

mara
August 13th, 2004, 02:15 PM
I'm so sorry Shanti.

Earthy
August 13th, 2004, 03:17 PM
:foh: :sniffsnif :wah:
I am soo sorry my friend :hugz:
I am upset too,i really felt as if i knew momcat through your posts.
May you and Veritas find some peace..and poor Cricket,she was so close to momcat too.
My thoughts are with all of you :hugz:

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 03:26 PM
:foh: :sniffsnif :wah:
I am soo sorry my friend :hugz:
I am upset too,i really felt as if i knew momcat through your posts.
May you and Veritas find some peace..and poor Cricket,she was so close to momcat too.
My thoughts are with all of you :hugz:
That made me cry.

Mom cat keeps crawling off into a corner that is a pain in the butt to get too. I believe she says she wants to go off and...you know. She doesnt even want a pet or a scratch under her chin...she just wants to be alone.
Thats animal talk to me.:(

Thank You for your wishes. It'll be a hard evening, but hopefull a better tomarrow.

VroomBroom
August 13th, 2004, 03:56 PM
I wish there was somethig I could do or say to make this all better for you and especially MammaCat.

I'll keep a candle lit for Mamma and you tonight...........

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 03:58 PM
I wish there was somethig I could do or say to make this all better for you and especially MammaCat.

I'll keep a candle lit for Mamma and you tonight...........
Thanks VB. Just peace. Thats all now.

WolfMoon
August 13th, 2004, 04:03 PM
Shanti, I'm so sorry...I keep hoping she'll pull through for you. Miracles do happen sometimes...

:hugz:

Khuinaset
August 13th, 2004, 04:11 PM
I'm so so sorry Shanti... :( I hope she passes fairly painlessly...and I hope you're okay...just reading about her makes me want to cry(and I almost am), it's so sad. I was really hoping she'd get better. I'm going to light a candle for you and your family, and mom-cat too. I hope the in-law gets her's. :hugz:

Asthmorte
August 13th, 2004, 04:17 PM
oh dear...Im so sorry....yes, miracles can happen, but maybe its just her time. I'll light a candle for her tonight...positive energy and all......Blessed Be and love and hugs and all that stuff.

Zoritsa_Nepenthe
August 13th, 2004, 04:23 PM
Shanti,I had hoped momcat would have gotten better :sniffsnif ,but from the sounds,it's not going to happen. :hugz: to you and momcat....I hope she feels no pain soon.

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 04:28 PM
Shanti,I had hoped momcat would have gotten better :sniffsnif ,but from the sounds,it's not going to happen. :hugz: to you and momcat....I hope she feels no pain soon.
Thank you so much.

morrigen
August 13th, 2004, 05:43 PM
Oh, Shanti...I'm so sorry...

I had to go off and have a cry...poor, brave little Mommacat. In my heart, I'm praying for a miracle, and will continue to do so....but...I'm so sorry....

I'll send love and energy to you and Mommacat for what you are going through. :hugz:

I truly wish there was more that I could do.

Lunacie
August 13th, 2004, 05:46 PM
Oh Shanti, hugs for you. Healing energy for MamaCat if she can recover and a peaceful passing if she must leave. If I'm this sad, your heart must be breaking.

KimberSly
August 13th, 2004, 06:09 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that shanti. I hope that she gets better. If not, then that she does go peacefully. :hugz:

Llewyth
August 13th, 2004, 06:25 PM
*sigh* I wanted so much for this to get better. :( Yup, that does sounds like a kitty that wants to go to the Summerland. Situations like this make me so sad and angry. My heart goes out to you. :huddle:

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 06:50 PM
I have hope again. I found help. My neighbor Mary, that is never home:ggrief:, came home and I talked to her. She had no clue what has been going on because I havent seen her in almost a month. She used to work with vets. She took a look at mom cat and there was a pocket of fluid in her belly. Well without the gross details, the pockets draining and Mary said she saw worse and cats pulled through. We are letting mom drain and she is perking up! She took a little food and Mary said as long as she continues to take food, she has a chance. Mom cat seems to be relieved big time! She isnt hurting so much. I dont remember or care to remember all the fluid talk ( texture, color, smell) but I guess its not that bad. Its gross to me but as long as some one with expirance feels its not a total loss...great. I do remember if a strong odor appears thats not good. But thats not happening now so that is good. got to watch for that she said. She said keep up with the antiboitics till she talks to her vet.


Hope.. when I thought there wasnt anymore....miracles.... I see can even happen for a cat!!! Thanks for all the miracle energies!!!! :)

Theres hope!!!!!

VroomBroom
August 13th, 2004, 06:54 PM
*does the happy Snoopy dance for you and MammaCat*

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 06:58 PM
I am hoping Mary can get me hooked up with her vet. She said she cant promise, but she will try. Mean while she will help for free!

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 07:06 PM
Its friday the 13...the day a lot of people think is bad....I got help right before I gave up. Just in the nick of time. I love fri 13!!!! :) I love my neighbor. :)

Isil Darkmoon
August 13th, 2004, 07:09 PM
That's so wonderful, Shanti! I bet she does feel better with all the ick out! I was so heartbroken when you thought you'd lose her, you both have fought so hard. LOTS of love for you and your family, poor precious momcat, and your wonderful kind neighbor. Give her LOTS of MW hugs!

Valkie
August 13th, 2004, 07:13 PM
Friday 13th is good. My youngest had his heart surgery on Friday 13th... he was out of the hospital 1 week later. :D

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 07:28 PM
My neighbor is awsome. I dont see and talk to her much anymore because she is always gone and busy. I forgot all about her till she came over and said, "Hi, hows everything?" I was about to cry and told her the long story. The last time I talked to her was when the kits were born and all was well. She said to hold it a minute and took a look. She spotted the problem right away. I saw a hanging bloated belly, she saw something else and knew what to do.

Afterward she gave me an update of her epeleptic (sp) dog and her diabetic dog and her dog with the thyroid and bone desease. And then her cats. She has taken in a lot of unwanted dieing animals. Its her specialty and nature. Then she told me horror stories of cat survival and gave me a lot of hope. She has seen a lot I guess.

There was even a guy that had a cat that hurt its leg. The leg got gangreen and the guy was broke (couldnt pay for a vet) so he took an ax and cut it off. The cat took off on him (remember we're in the country) and was gone for weeks. It came back, 3 legged and healed. By then he had money for the vet so he brought the cat in and the vet said it was healed fine. It was a really deformed stump, but the cat was fine. Mary told me that when animals are not ready to quit they can somehow pull through. That was one of a couple of horror stories. They were nasty stories but I sure have hope now!!! :)

VroomBroom
August 13th, 2004, 07:32 PM
Holy cow:eek: Animals are miraculous littel creatures!

Friday the 13th has always been a good day to me. Heres hoping it is for Mamma too:boing:

boerbabe
August 13th, 2004, 07:42 PM
Geez! I thought this was only a few pages!

One thing to keep on hand if you have animals is sterile water bags, like they use for IVs in hospitals. Whil you might not be able to get them easily, if you have a friend who works in a hospital, animal or human, or military surplus supplies, you can get them. Retail it about $30. per liter.

Anyway, when the animal won;t drink and is losing skin elasticity due to dehyddration, giving fluids sub-Q is very easy. Pop a needle in the tube on the bag, and slip it under the skin. To do that, make a tent with the skin between your fingrs, and slide it in.

If you don't get under all the skin, it will make a bubble, and be slower to absorb, but will still work. Try not to move the needle much because the egdes ar sharp (they are cut on an angle) and will cut up the flesh and skin.

morrigen
August 13th, 2004, 08:17 PM
There's still hope...thank the Gods. :)

Your neigbour must be a blessing sent to help Momcat...I shall continue to send love and energy...the little one is constantly in my thoughts.

I hope with all of my heart that she'll pull through.

Caffiend
August 13th, 2004, 08:25 PM
Oh Shanti, I am so pulling for that sweet brave mama cat! More energies sent! You and kitty have been through so much. I've been hanging onto this thread and the past one about sweet mamakitty. She's a special kit, but you are an extraodinaryily sweet and caring person. Blessing to you and your family, human and furry.

Hellenic_Witch
August 13th, 2004, 08:42 PM
She spotted the problem right away. I saw a hanging bloated belly, she saw something else and knew what to do.
So what was the problem with the bloated belly?? And what did she do for it?

Shanti
August 13th, 2004, 08:51 PM
So what was the problem with the bloated belly?? And what did she do for it?