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Tigerwallah
August 18th, 2001, 04:19 PM
Last night I saw a special on the Learning Channel about apocolyptic plagues in Egypt 4,000 years ago.

Apparantly, these plagues were caused by a significant decrease in rain, and therefor a decrease in the Nile which supported all agriculture in Egypt. Scientists linked this event to the end of the very successful "Old Kingdom."

Was Moses responsible for these plagues? No. Apparantly the entire earth experienced a mini ice age 4,000 years ago. At this time, Egypt was the most advanced civilization due to the developement of agriculture and therefor, effected the most.

One regional governor's tomb tells of a plague that caused some of the Egyptians to resort to eating their children. A very sad time in Egyptian history.

It made me wonder. Is it possible that the story of Moses is a fictional addition to the very real plagues of Ancient Egypt? The Plagues lasted for 200 years and ended around 100 years before Ramses II was pharaoh. He was determined to be the pharaoh from the Book of Exodus. I have searched for archeological evidence to support Moses and the Israelite slaves in Egypt, but have not found a trace of their evidence.

Earth Walker
August 18th, 2001, 06:27 PM
I watched it too, and more and more, the bible is being
exposed as a sham.:)


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Tarot Collector
August 20th, 2001, 06:00 PM
I've edited the post I had in this spot.

I love watching the history channel, discovery, and all the rest -when historical or archeological topics are being documented and discussed.

I remember the days (oh so long ago) when there were three channels and PBS. And about the only programs that delved into these subjects were National Geographic and In Search of...

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Tigerwallah
August 20th, 2001, 07:47 PM
That is across the board. I am not singling out the Hebrews here. It is interesting, to say the least. Myth, which many of us base our faith on is mostly story telling, as well.

In my honest opinion, Moses existed, sort of. There is a character in Babylon history named Mises. Many accounts of this man coincide with Moses. I'm only suggesting that after thousands of years this story being passed by word of mouth, perhaps it lost some accuracy. Hebrew slaves were known to Babylon, but, by all accounts, the only foreigners who are known to have been slaves in Egypt are the Nubians, until the Romans brought slaves to Egypt during the Roman empire.

I, in no way am saying that the Hebrew religion is a sham. However, the Egyptian history has been much maligned by the Hebrews. What if the events occurred in a different region entirely? Wouldn't the Egyptians be entitled to vindication? Disproving their slavery in Egypt and the story of Moses might be an affront to their religious beliefs, but what of the Egyptians? Are they not entitled to be proven innocent of the charges of slavery and as the Bible infers, depravity and immorality? How can we not explore archeology to prove or disprove charges made in the sacred texts. Are they really above scrutiny? And if they are, are we saying then, that it is also sacred that Pagans worship "false" gods and are wicked and depraved?

In a different TLC special, a scientist was saying that they had been trying to prove that the accounts of the Hebrews in Egypt were accurate, but that there was just no evidence to be found. Most scientists are backed by Christian or Hebrew organizations because they are funded by universities. So, it would not be beneficial for them to make such claims if they were inaccurate or had the slightest doubt.

BTW the accounts on the governor's tomb were recent accounts of what was happening during his lifetime. These accounts were what led to the scientist networking with other scientists in different fields (ie: geologists and botanists) to find out what was going on during the 200 years that Egypt suffered these great plagues that changed the course of history.

Tigerwallah
August 20th, 2001, 08:53 PM
"Sham" might be seen as disrespectful. Please keep in mind that we need to respect all paths here. :bigredgri

Tarot Collector
August 22nd, 2001, 12:52 AM
Tigerwallah, you approach this subject very intelligently. I'm glad you're a moderator. :)


-Jesse-

Tigerwallah
August 22nd, 2001, 08:23 AM
Thanks, Tarot Collector.