Mental Diseases and Magick Work

[Carickah]

I have a friend who keeps having crazy stuff happen around her. It goes way beyond coincidence and it doesn't matter where she is. Often it is simply expressed when she is listening to music, her mood blatently expressed in what is played on the radio or like on LaunchCast. It doesn't matter which one of us is logged in. Or she'll be thinking about someone she knew in High School and that person will unexpectantly wander into her life. She's able to sense my Spirit Guide when she comes around, knows when I don't feel good, despite not having seen me or heard from me. All this and more.

She's asked me to explain these things to her and help her understand and have some control over it all. Problem is that she is Bi-Polar and and goes through periods of doubt about wether it is all happening or is all real. (I can vouch, though, because I have been witness to much of this and all of what I wrote above) So I decided to ask here for your thoughts and suggestions on how to handle this. I don't know whether it is her Bi-Polar Disorder or the medication for it or Depression Meds or just what that is bringing all this to a head, but I could use any insight here. Thanks.



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[Ahautenites]

Things that go wonky in the brain can actually augment metaphysical abilities and happenstances. It may be part of the reason why so many depressed people become Wiccan, Pagan, or some other magically inclined alternative religion. And it may explain why so many who are already of the magically inclined groups become depressed or otherwise mentally diseased.

[Carickah]

Things that go wonky in the brain can actually augment metaphysical abilities and happenstances. It may be part of the reason why so many depressed people become Wiccan, Pagan, or some other magically inclined alternative religion. And it may explain why so many who are already of the magically inclined groups become depressed or otherwise mentally diseased.
I was wondering about that. I get the feeling she could do wonderous things, if she could just focus a little more. Part of what bothers me about everything that is going on... But I think what bothers me the most is when doubt creeps in and she acts like it's all make-believe...


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[Carickah]

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? I could really use some more perspective...




K

[Moon Daughter]

hmm strange that this subject is brought up here at this very time.
for past few weeks i have been going through these phases...where i myself start doubting everything: everything that i have seen, all the dreams that i've had that came true, all the little coincidences or healing that i've done...everything. i ask myself whether it's all real or just me making it up, and it's kind of frightening.
i have been worried myself that there is something 'wrong' with me...and lately i even nearly came to accepting that chances are, there is.
i've been questioning my mood swings ( well, then again, i did go through a very stressful situation this summer), my thoughts, my dreams, my fears, my interests...the fact most people my age are all for partying and i'm not at all...
everything...and it's frightening, but i think this may be similar to what your friend is going through...
... i don't know for sure if it's connected with a mental disease or not, but i was thinking of seeing a doctor myself.

[blugirrl1]

one bi polar pagan here. my mood swings def. affect my abilities. i never gave it much thought though. it is just part of me. something i have always dealt with.

[aluokaloo]

Well I've heard that strong emotions do affect magic more strongly, I'm a very emotional person, and my mood swings are like the wind (however bipolar is too mental health labeling to suit me) so it could be because your friend has such erratic moodswings, it could also strongly affect whatever she is working with at the time.

[Carickah]

Liek I said earlier, I know her emotions can have an affect, what I was wondering more about is the sudden doubt of things magickal and the whole make-believe aspect ...




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[Ziana]

Liek I said earlier, I know her emotions can have an affect, what I was wondering more about is the sudden doubt of things magickal and the whole make-believe aspect ... K


part of this depends on her belief system. Does she believe magic exists and is real? If not, the fact that she does have psychic abilities, regardless of where they came from, may simply freak her out, so she says that they are make-believe, as a way to cope. Being that she is bi-polar, the periods of self-doubt are natural. I know, I go through them regularly. :wth: Help your friend learn meditation. It may ease some of the doubts and worries that she has, as well as help her gain control over her abilities. Beyond that, just be there when she needs you. There's nothing like a comforting hug and a warm shoulder to cry on when your down. :hugz:

[The High Queen of Faerie]

I have a friend who keeps having crazy stuff happen around her. It goes way beyond coincidence and it doesn't matter where she is. Often it is simply expressed when she is listening to music, her mood blatently expressed in what is played on the radio or like on LaunchCast. It doesn't matter which one of us is logged in. Or she'll be thinking about someone she knew in High School and that person will unexpectantly wander into her life. She's able to sense my Spirit Guide when she comes around, knows when I don't feel good, despite not having seen me or heard from me. All this and more.

She's asked me to explain these things to her and help her understand and have some control over it all. Problem is that she is Bi-Polar and and goes through periods of doubt about wether it is all happening or is all real. (I can vouch, though, because I have been witness to much of this and all of what I wrote above) So I decided to ask here for your thoughts and suggestions on how to handle this. I don't know whether it is her Bi-Polar Disorder or the medication for it or Depression Meds or just what that is bringing all this to a head, but I could use any insight here. Thanks.



K


oh man, all that sounds familiar...

i'm bipolar

[Moon Daughter]

hmm...although this thread was not about me, i might as well have been that friend, since it fit me perfectly..i've decribed some of mine 'fears' above...
...and this thread is actually helping me...since i don't feel alone anymore.

[Carickah]

part of this depends on her belief system. Does she believe magic exists and is real? If not, the fact that she does have psychic abilities, regardless of where they came from, may simply freak her out, so she says that they are make-believe, as a way to cope. Being that she is bi-polar, the periods of self-doubt are natural. I know, I go through them regularly. :wth: Help your friend learn meditation. It may ease some of the doubts and worries that she has, as well as help her gain control over her abilities. Beyond that, just be there when she needs you. There's nothing like a comforting hug and a warm shoulder to cry on when your down. :hugz:
She is a seeker, not yet really in a defined belief system. She was raised Christian, but not strongly so, but she doesn't feel particularly drawn to the chruch. She seems very interested in Wicca, or at least did...

I am trying to help her with meditation, but she lacks focus to use that tool when we aren't together. And of course, I always have a warm shoulder for her, and ready hugs, too. I really care for her and want her to be happy. But I am afraid that my ignorance of her disorder is causing me problems in understanding and am afraid that any sudden interest or study in that area would be seen as a possessive move on my part(since she has already told me I am possessive...:jawdrop: ) So you can see I feel just a little stuck.




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