Isa's quirky Astral Technique

[Isa]

I should preface by saying that I've never had much luck with Projecting, but recently I decided to put some serious commitment into learning to do it. This story deserves to be shared for the sheer amusement value of it.

My problem has always been completely leaving my body. I have gotten the feeling of floating during meditations for almost as long as I can remember, but there's always something holding a part of me in. So I've read all about different techniques for detaching, climbing down ladders, silver cords, practically everything.

Well the other night I rolled out of my body... Just like that, completely by accident. I was actually aiming for some dream magick at the time and not an Astral Projection, and I prefer to sleep on my side. I rolled over, only my body didn't come with me. Whoops! XD

The whole experience was very odd indeed, I must confess my total amateurness at AP still. Although I was wide awake I found I got distracted too easily on the Astral Plane and couldn't control what was going on so well.

[9-2-2]

The name of this thread reminds me of Mordenkainen's Faithful Hound, Tenser's Floating Disc, or Bigby's Crushing Fist... :p

Not to digress TOO far, I have trouble AP'ing period. Can't even figure out wtf is wrong, either :(

[FairyMoon]

wow... this gives me hope. I am too trying to put some more effort into AP. I feel the vibrations and try a technique, but usually end up in my body. I am hoping that by doing this every night, my body will eventually accept it. That is very good that you now have some experience, even if it is "amature" That gives you more to work with than you had a few days ago. Congrats!

[kaosxmage]

I should preface by saying that I've never had much luck with Projecting, but recently I decided to put some serious commitment into learning to do it. This story deserves to be shared for the sheer amusement value of it.

My problem has always been completely leaving my body. I have gotten the feeling of floating during meditations for almost as long as I can remember, but there's always something holding a part of me in. So I've read all about different techniques for detaching, climbing down ladders, silver cords, practically everything.

Well the other night I rolled out of my body... Just like that, completely by accident. I was actually aiming for some dream magick at the time and not an Astral Projection, and I prefer to sleep on my side. I rolled over, only my body didn't come with me. Whoops! XD

The whole experience was very odd indeed, I must confess my total amateurness at AP still. Although I was wide awake I found I got distracted too easily on the Astral Plane and couldn't control what was going on so well.

All my years involved in the occult, via a multitude of paths and I'm still waiting for actual evidence that astral projection works. I can't do it, it's that simple. A small temple I formed in the late 90's decided to experiment with this, and we had people placed in different rooms and their goal was to astral project and come visit us for a bit, then go back to their body and record what they saw (we had several signs to be noticed in the room with us) then come out and hand us the sheet. One kid was phenomenal, and the only one with any success at all. Once we examined his technique, and he described his experience, we all concluded that he was doing something more akin to remote viewing rather than astral projection.

Just some random thoughts on the matter, :collapse:
--Kaos

[Isa]

To be honest most of the .... mythology (Astral planes and creatures and all that)? around Astral Projection doesn't fit my world view, which is why I'm working with it. A mix of curiousity, and what I can learn from experiencing those type of sensation I guess. I don't think of it as actually "leaving the body" I think of it more as dissolving self awareness. One of the big ideals of Zen Buddhism (which plays a big role in my practice) is the idea that what we perceive as real is a creation of our mind. This includes the idea of "my body". Or in other words the line where "I" end and "other things" begin is thought to be a mental construct; there is no real difference. So I find the whole concept of losing awareness of the body fascinating.

But I've only really just gotten started, so perhaps I'll have more insightful thoughts after more experience.

[dr_zeus440]

i know what you mean isa, planes and creatures etc. seems a little alien to me, but im willing to go with it until i can actually get there and find out for myself :D

[magick_faerie]

i have the same problem, i can get my arms and legs off the bed but nothing else, i can never get past that bit it gets frustrating and then when im frustrated i cant do it full stop. Hopefully if i keep at it it will just come to me......please please please lol :shift:

fae

[Garden of Eden]

I have exactly that problem... I get the floating sensation, but can't pull away enough to separate fully. I do sometimes manage to get my legs to spearate from my body, and then I kinda try to 'peel' myself away (ok... ew...) but I always get stuck at the head! *huffs*

[samalander]

I have exactly that problem... I get the floating sensation, but can't pull away enough to separate fully. I do sometimes manage to get my legs to spearate from my body, and then I kinda try to 'peel' myself away (ok... ew...) but I always get stuck at the head! *huffs*

I always get stuck at the head too. the first time i even got close to completly separating it suddenly felt like someone had stabbed me in the side of the head and i slammed back into my body. the spot on my head hurt the rest of the day and night. now whenever i try it feels like my head is in a vice and someones trying to pull my skull through my mouth.

[Kaylara]

I've noticed that most people who are first starting to astral project, try too hard to achieve it. And when they try hard, and it doesn't work, then they get upset and frustrated and perhaps will try even harder... Well, the main advice I can give, which really is illustrated very well by the first post in this thread, is RELAX. Don't get discouraged if you're having a problem with it. Don't think when you're meditating or starting to go through the steps that you take to start projecting about how you're going to do it. Don't focus on the act of actually leaving your body, just step out of it, or roll out, or float out, or whatever.

Another thing that might help, is working on getting good at moving specific parts of your astral body out of your physical one. So like, letting your astral hand lift out of your physical hand and putting it back in...

[Erites]

Does anyone have any good links to either books or websites? I've been wanting to try Aping for years.

[MidnightDances]

i too have been trying to astral for years...with no luck lol. recently though ive been having these strange...moments...where...oh its so hard to explain! i think i may be projecting while im "in" them but when im back in my body, its like...it cant i have been. i wasnt in hte room where my body was, it wasnt like what people had described to me it feels like! oh i dunno, guess i just wanted to get this off my chest lol. these moments are quite hard to recall too, as they are often when im half asleep etc *sigh*
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[WolfWonderess]

Midnight, when you astral project, you don't always project into the room your body is in. ^_~

Anyhoo...I've been practicing for a little over a year, and have made lotsa progress! If I nap during the day (morning and night don't really work for me...though sometimes they do, napping is the fail-proof method for me!) I can get to the vibration/other sensation state really quickly.

A few times, I got out of my body by accident, not even intending to project that night. Really surprised me, as once I ended up over my bed, another time under it, and another time standing right next to my body. XD Unfortunately, bith the surprise and the fact that I wasn't yet accustomed to my astral body lead to me ending up back in my body...

But, anyhoo...getting out has always been my biggest problem. I try to hard, and I also, previously, didn't know the right moment to attempt separation--during the vibrations or after? I recently learned that once the vibrations cease, that is when you attempt separation (if it didn't already occur naturally). If only I had known that sooner...XD

Also, if you wanna verify AP's existence...try it for yourself. Seriously, though people have been known to conduct their own tests to prove it's "real", there are also a lot of factors they don't take into consideration when attempting it, and that is the fact that, while in the astral, time works differently. The astral world itself works differently. For instance...a box you find in your astral livingroom may not really be there in the physical at that moment--but, perhaps, it was there in the past...or will be there sometime later. Or it may be something you simply conjured without thinking in the astral.

I see the best way to verrify its existence as experiencing it for yourself. Honestly, it's the more real even than this reality...

[Smiley Girl]

That's so funny :hehehehe: In a good way though :)

I've always had trouble with it. When I try during the day, I'm too distracted. When I try during the night, I'm too sleepy. The most I've ever gotten was a "floating" sensation. *sigh* Practice I guess. It just gets so frustrating sometimes.

[KissMeImIrish!]

The most Ive ever been able to do is arms and legs (on purpose). However, a few times I can think of I managed to achieve the full body floating sensation when I was dozing off to sleep. The moment I 'woke up' and realised what was happening, I was back in my body. Another time I can think of, totally incidental was when I was half awake and realized my hand was floating up near my head! I even moved it alittle (I guess 'bobbing' is a better way to put it) and was of course esctatic when I woke up. I finally had a 'real' AP experience...even though I didn't mean to! I haven't spent much time on it, but reading this post piqued my interest and I may have to set aside some time to study it properly. :D

[Aleannah]

All my years involved in the occult, via a multitude of paths and I'm still waiting for actual evidence that astral projection works. I can't do it, it's that simple. A small temple I formed in the late 90's decided to experiment with this, and we had people placed in different rooms and their goal was to astral project and come visit us for a bit, then go back to their body and record what they saw (we had several signs to be noticed in the room with us) then come out and hand us the sheet. One kid was phenomenal, and the only one with any success at all. Once we examined his technique, and he described his experience, we all concluded that he was doing something more akin to remote viewing rather than astral projection.

Just some random thoughts on the matter, :collapse:
--Kaos

okay, here's my question, because I'm not quite sure what to call what I do..I don't think it's AP because I'm fully awake, but I can go visit somewhere and see what they're doing and wearing and all that...so that would be considered remote viewing. But, what about if I can go to an astral place that someone else created, describe their astral place for them, and leave them a little token that they can find (and do find)? What's that? :whatmewor

[Xander67]

you might like this, it is a live journal discussion on astral projection

http://www.livejournal.com/community/astral_travel/

[Erites]

Thanks :)

[mucgwyrt]

I've only ever managed it by accident, but I think I'd like to try to do it purposefully :)

Whats "remote viewing", and how is it different to astral-projecting?

[Xander67]

I think the key to a fully conscious Astral Projection is to train your mind to be aware of it while you are awake... meaining, awareness that the astral world and our waking world exist together yet seperate...... I know that sounds deep....... but here is my theory...

when we sleep, we go on journeys sometimes :) and once and a while, while we sleep, and on one of our Journies, we meet with our higher self :) and he/she gives us council, help, and advice... but here is a further thought :)

1. our subconcious speaks to us in dreams when we sleep using symbols.
2. we can communicate with our higher self while we are awake using those same symbols, we know them as Archetypes, Icons, and are usually found on tarot cards, in numerology, and other divinatory means, including meditation.

so , just because the picture is not in front of our eyes, like tarot cards, dreams etc...... doesnt mean the astral doesnt exist :)

at any moment in time, someone is sleeping while another is awake, your higher self and Lower self meet between in dreams :)

so yeah, My vote is that they both exist simultainusly and one cannot exist without the other :)

[CuriousJadeEyes]

Wait, have you ever had that falling feeling when you're mostly asleep and suddenly you hit the bed (which is really alarming, btw)? Would that be me astral projecting? I don't ever see anything or anything like that, but it sure is a doozie when I hit the bed...

[samalander]

Wait, have you ever had that falling feeling when you're mostly asleep and suddenly you hit the bed (which is really alarming, btw)? Would that be me astral projecting? I don't ever see anything or anything like that, but it sure is a doozie when I hit the bed...

yeah, from what ive heard it is. most of what ive read says that everyone astal projects when the sleep. the challenege is just to be aware of it.

[atropa]

The only time anything significant happened to me was a complete accident. I was lying on the couch just relaxing (I swear I wasn't asleep, I had only been lying there for a couple of minutes). I felt my abdomen get all floaty, and then my head and legs. It was like something was pulling me up from my middle by a string. I felt myself rise up (all except my feet which remained stuck) and float to the left over the floor. I remember not even thinking this was bizarre or anything. I thought oh goodness I'm going to fall and hit my head on the coffee table and immediately thereafter I sort snapped back into my body and shot up very freaked out. I also felt really giddy and giggly. I felt immediately that it was AP but I'm still not sure. What do you guys think? I've never even tried to do it.

[Teresa]

I have been working on this with my SO.I have had some successes.For me it was when I was the most relaxed and wasnt even trying hard that I had successes.