What's My Motivation? LOL

[Kadynas]

See this thread for a little background... http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?p=1191856#post1191856

One of the reasons I got involved in Astrology in the first place was to find my "place" in the scheme of things, to see the connections that exist between people, to look beyond the surface and see how they tick... how very Virgo Moon of me! :lol:

But when it comes to whatever it is I'm "meant" to do in this life I draw a blank... I could look in my North Node in Libra and say "relationships" or "justice" or "the arts"... I could look at the Node being in the 4th house and say "creating a family unit", and not wanting kids I can understand how you can still create family... "friends are your chosen family" and all that. :) I can see from my chart talents that I know I possess... creativity, the arts, writing... And yet Saturn in Leo in the 3rd would seem to suggest the trouble I often have in using these gifts or at the very least, sharing them with others...

But what am I supposed to /do/ with my life? I know it's a little early to worry about my Saturn return, since I've got about 2 years left yet, but I find myself asking this question so often lately... I feel there's something I should be doing but I don't know what. And so I spend all my time reading and searching for the answers.

So from this point of view, what answers does my chart provide? Does anything there suggest a certain path to take? I'm just feeling adrift right now... I seem to be so good at showing others where their strengths lie, but when it comes to myself I hit a wall... So any observations would be most welcome... :D

[Kadynas]

Also... My Yod points to Mercury in the 10th and that's also the "top" of my Grand Trine... yet my North Node is in the 4th! That's always confused me...

[Fluffmeister]

You have your MC in Pisces - and the ruler of Pisces, Jupiter, is on your Ascendant in Cancer - the sign where he's exalted. The co-ruler of Pisces, Neptune, is in your sixth house of work and service, and part of a lovely Grand Trine involving Mercury and Saturn.

Neptune in aspect to Saturn *can* make you prone to depression - even if it's a nice aspect like a trine - as can the Neptune square Moon; so it's important to make sure you use that Saturn wisely. Saturn and Neptune seem like such opposite principles that it's difficult to see how to reconcile them - but actually Saturn is great for grounding. So Neptune may be about having all these wonderful mystical and psychic experiences, but they're pretty useless unless you can manifest them in the physical world - and that's what Saturn does. Now take the final part of that Grand Trine - Mercury. So you can communicate them, too. This would make you a brilliant channeller, esoteric writer, spiritual counsellor or - of course - astrologer.

I like to look at quintiles too - Liz Greene uses these as markers of talent, and you have a quintile from Jupiter to the Moon, from Venus to Mars to Pluto, from Mercury to Juno and from Neptune to the Node.

So you have a strong Neptunian influence in your chart and by making good use of that Neptune and learning to ground it will help you avoid the trap of falling into depression or addiction - Neptune's dark side.

[RedRose]

Ah Kadynas, it would be great if it were all very predestined, straight-forward, simple and specific, but then your Virgo Moon would have nothing to endless sleuth and quest!

Truth is, God(dess) doesn't always answer the "Why? question" for us. There is also never just one path through a scope, that is, through life. For instance, in your case, having children would certainly be one answer but you do not choose to have children, so how can you create, or help other's create, family without having kids?

It is enough that astrology brings this question up for you. There is no "right" answer, you can pull off your destiny in all sorts of ways - in the process of living. All we know is that relationships and family are important destiny factors for you. This is a moment to moment thing as well as a long term thing. So how are you creating "family" right now, this very day?

Of course, kismet plays it's part too. You don't know what opportunities and lucky syncronicities await you. Liz Green may move into the house next door and your life might take off in ways you never imagined.

And then, there is the really hard realitiy that with many souls it doesn't even matter destiny-wise what kind of jobs they have or how they make money and all the other swtuff our culture forces us to compulse about. Whatever the outer circumstances, these folks are here to connect with the people around them and nurture or heal them.

I experience that Virgo Moon beings want to KNOW so badly yet they need to practice being comfortable not knowing - ala the Hang Man tarot archetype.

RedRose

[Kadynas]

I like to look at quintiles too - Liz Greene uses these as markers of talent, and you have a quintile from Jupiter to the Moon, from Venus to Mars to Pluto, from Mercury to Juno and from Neptune to the Node.
That's one of the issues I've been having lately... I know I have the talent, I just haven't been able to "access" it on a regular basis. :lol: My creative work has been very sporadic, and to be honest, lackluster lately. I have ideas but they don't seem to turn out the way I want them too... my Virgo Moon perfectionism getting the better of me I suppose. Sometimes I just get to doubting myself, wondering whether I'm really good at things, or if I'd just like to think I am! :lol:


So you have a strong Neptunian influence in your chart and by making good use of that Neptune and learning to ground it will help you avoid the trap of falling into depression or addiction - Neptune's dark side.
I'm beginning to learn that creativity not used will turn your imagination against you so to speak... I've been suffering with panic attacks from the last couple of years. (Not that Saturn and Pluto transiting my 12th and 6th houses in opposition for awhile there weren't "interesting"... :lol: ) Addiciton to any physical substances isn't a problem for me, unless you count smoking; I've watched it destroy others and from an early age I decided that's not the route I'd go. Addiction to a feeling or emotional state though is another story entirely... :)


Ah Kadynas, it would be great if it were all very predestined, straight-forward, simple and specific, but then your Virgo Moon would have nothing to endless sleuth and quest!
:rollingla True that! I guess I'm not so much looking for the "cosmic neon sign" as I am for /focus/: I paint, I write, I journal, I read the stars... do I pick one area to excell in or do I just try to combine them all into one? :lol: In a way I guess I feel I'm at a crossroads, but I don't know what my choices are!


It is enough that astrology brings this question up for you. There is no "right" answer, you can pull off your destiny in all sorts of ways - in the process of living. All we know is that relationships and family are important destiny factors for you. This is a moment to moment thing as well as a long term thing. So how are you creating "family" right now, this very day?
By "adopting" friends, it seems. :lol: We may be going into a roommate situation with a close friend of ours, which would be great if we could pull it off. I never got the whole "dorm-living" experience at college since I commuted from home. That and I've always had this dream of having a big house where all my friends had a room and we all came together to discuss new ideas and such. Of course over the years, the number of friends has dropped substantially, and that's one area I feel a real loss and sadness. Over than that, taking my "Mama Lion" instinct to a whole new level at work as a manager of 3 water signs (one of each!) :lol:


And then, there is the really hard realitiy that with many souls it doesn't even matter destiny-wise what kind of jobs they have or how they make money and all the other swtuff our culture forces us to compulse about. Whatever the outer circumstances, these folks are here to connect with the people around them and nurture or heal them.
I have gotten to the point where the job is just a job... I've never been that material-minded anyways, other than wanting to be "comfortable"; ie: not struggling to survive. I guess I'm just looking for the best way to put my talents to use... I guess my Neptune/Pisces energy is pretty strong. It took you two spelling out aspects I see constantly to make the connection; I totally ignored the Jupiter part of the equation as well. Maybe part of the problem is that I don't really "identify" so much with Neptune and Pisces, as I seem to with Aries, Leo and Virgo... Maybe I'm afraid of the flood that water can bring, but at the same time I'm damming up my creative flow as well.


I experience that Virgo Moon beings want to KNOW so badly yet they need to practice being comfortable not knowing - ala the Hang Man tarot archetype.
:lol: Yep that's me all right; sometimes I'd like to hit the fast-forward button on my life just so I can see what's going to happen! :) I get stuck in these ruts of routine that seem to zap all the imagination right out of me. It's gotten to the point that my husband teases me for buying art supplies and never doing anything with them; of course I try to tell him that /that/ attitude isn't going to inspire me any! :lol: His ideas always seem to come so easy to him; he draws and writes constantly and he's excellent at it.

Again thank you both... :hugz: You've given me some things to ponder. :)