Wondering about Enochian magick

[DonnyNox]

has anyone done anything from it before. im curious about it and would like to know experiences with it and what all should be done before practicing it. any advice?

[Seren_]

No I haven't practiced it, but I've studied it somewhat. A sound knowledge in ceremonial magic and the qabalah is advisable before you try anything. It is usually considered the reserve of more advanced magicians.

A good place to talk to more experienced people is

www.occulforums.com

Hope that helps.

[DonnyNox]

thanks a bunch :). yea, i figured it was for more advanced people like that. but thank you for the site :).

[KaliGiri5]

To tell the truth..
It will be hard finding people online who are into advance magic.
there are Ethiopians who still follow it..not sure how you'll run across one online.
when it's time to know what you need to know somebody will cross your path.
until then you just read books or read the online text
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/enoch/

[Kaylara]

There are a few people on here who have a knowledge of it, but I'm sure that they'll be contacting you. :)

[DonnyNox]

thanks folks, that really helps. i LOVE the sacred-texts site, alot of useful information. to be honest i originally got into enochian magick through the enochian langauge thanks to that oh so.....messed up man anton lavey (satanic bible). and after reading the language i immediately went on a hunt for more enochian stuff

[Ben Gruagach]

To tell the truth..
It will be hard finding people online who are into advance magic.
there are Ethiopians who still follow it..not sure how you'll run across one online.
when it's time to know what you need to know somebody will cross your path.
until then you just read books or read the online text
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/enoch/

I don't know a huge amount about Enochian, but was a bit surprised by the statement that there are Ethiopians who "still follow it."

Enochian is a magickal system that was first presented by John Dee in Elizabethan England. Dee and his assistant, Edward Kelly, encountered the system through skrying experiments they were conducting. Dee lived from 1527 to 1608. I know Dee travelled Europe a bit, but I didn't realize his influence would have extended into Ethiopia.

Or is the Ethiopian reference to something else and not Dee's Enochian?

http://www.esotericarchives.com/ has some of Dee's works online as well as a number of other historical grimoires and magickal texts.

[Ben Gruagach]

A few other websites about Enochian:

http://www.hermetic.com/browe/ (Benjamin Rowe's writings on the topic -- he's a well-known Enochian ceremonial magician.)

http://www.schuelers.com/enochian/ (Dr. Schuelers is another who has worked extensively with Enochian and has written a bit of stuff on the topic.)

http://www.golden-dawn.org/enochian.html (Some Golden Dawn material on Enochian.)

http://www.lonmiloduquette.com (Lon Milo DuQuette is another excellent and knowledgeable author on ceremonial magick, including Enochian. He's one of my favourites.)

http://www.themagickalreview.org/enochian/ (Includes a link to "Enochian Manuscripts Online," scanned versions of some of John Dee's original handwritten texts on Enochian. Very cool!)

[DonnyNox]

wow, thanks alot ben :)

[Alkhemia]

I second the recommendation for any material by the late Ben Rowe - plus, it is widely available for free on the net. However, I must caution against using anything by the Schueler's on the subject of Enochiana. Gerald admits that he doesn't actually practice Enochian, but he is more of an armchair theorist on the subject. Even on the "armchair theorist" account, I still cannot recommend him since most of his material is re-worded Crowley or rampant speculation. I can only recommend his Enochian Tarot because of the terrific artwork by Sallie Ann Glassman - but save some money and avoid everything else. :smile:

Alkhemia

[ianrons]

Hello,

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Without wishing to sound too pompous, my opinion of Ben Rowe's work is not high, nor is that of the Golden Dawn interpretation, or any of the other adaptations of Enochian magick. I would recommend recourse to the original manuscripts of John Dee, as I myself was recommended some years ago. As regards the almost universally despised Schueler, I heard someone remark that he was approached by Llewellyn to write some paperback books on Enochian magick, without his having studied the system at all -- and he provided the hotch-potch that is his alleged system.

Enochian magick is not Ethiopian at all -- the confusion arises because of the connection with Enoch, who wrote one of the Pseudopigraphic/Apocryphal books of the Bible, which has come down to us in the Ethiopic (Amharic) language. The connection lies in the fact that Enoch is supposed to have received the system of Enochian magick, which was degraded and then lost until Dee and Kelley received it from the angels in the 16th Century of the Common Era.

But to get to the original question, Enochian magick is a serious study. However, serious instructional guides don't really exist, for the simple reason that the redactions & interpretations of it (e.g., the Golden Dawn system) were based mainly on a badly transcribed version of the diaries (Casaubon's "True & Faithful Relation", 1659), and the interpretations of the system have stretched the source material so far as to seem ludicrous.

However, whilst it is a very intricate system, the angels themselves will be ready to lend assistance to any sincere effort to "open the mysteries". The classic ritual for approaching these mysteries is called "Opening by Watchtower", which is a Golden Dawn ritual; but it has been revised according to Dee's original diaries by Rufus Harrington, an Enochian scholar of many years standing, the de facto spokesman for Enochian in England and head of the N.W. England Pagan Federation; and this is available as "The Ritual Opening of the Veil" in the Enochian section of my website(http://www.themagickalreview.org/enochian/ -- I trust the blatant plug is not frowned upon by the moderators!), which also houses scans of all the important manuscripts. I suppose if I push my luck I might be allowed to mention that I am soon to be publishing a complete edition of all the diaries, details available at the above link.

Anyway, the system itself is composed of a figurative representation of the universe according to mathematical and linguistic principles; and, as such, every symbol interlinks with every other in an extraordinary manner. There's no point trying to summarise it here; but in brief, the important distinction between the Qabalah and the Enochia is that the Qabalah is a system which was extrapolated by human methods: exalted, no doubt, but nevertheless it was an attempt to describe the universe from the human perspective. The Enochia, on the other hand, is a received system. That is, it was recorded as the speech of God to Man; a divine revelation, fulfilling the Neoplatonic notion of truth as being possible only through divine revelation.

As for preparing for Enochian work, common sense will provide the answer as to what is necessary for the invocation of these angelic beings. The system is so direct as to affect even the physical nervous system in a way I have not experienced so apparently by any other method, and so I would suggest that physical and mental purity is a prerequisite: regulation of food, sex and sleep (not to mention thought) being the key aspects. However, in all those aspects a healthy balance should be the ideal, rather than obsessive self-mortification. Purity is such a peculiarly personal thing as to seem impossible of accurate definition, although I would definitely advise laying off the crack or amphetamines for a few days before any actual work! (The rules change as one's work progresses; but, as I say, that is entirely personal. It is possible to advance beyond these stringent necessities, but then greater purity is demanded of one on the mental and spiritual planes.)

One of the most important secondary sources which is relevant to the study of the Enochia is Liber XXX Aerum vel Saeculi: The Vision and the Voice, the record of Aleister Crowley's skrying of the 30 Ayres, available online.

In any case, take care! The Enochian angels are the most beneficent that are known to exist, but also the swiftest to punish any attempts to gatecrash or subvert their mysteries.

Love is the law, love under will.

Ian

[Alkhemia]

93 Frater!

As regards the almost universally despised Schueler, I heard someone remark that he was approached by Llewellyn to write some paperback books on Enochian magick, without his having studied the system at all -- and he provided the hotch-potch that is his alleged system.

LOL! This is much the same story that I had heard - his Enochian Physics is especially bad. Since Gerald and Betty haven't published anything new in a while, I'm hoping that they've moved on to greener pastures.

But to get to the original question, Enochian magick is a serious study. However, serious instructional guides don't really exist, for the simple reason that the redactions & interpretations of it (e.g., the Golden Dawn system) were based mainly on a badly transcribed version of the diaries (Casaubon's "True & Faithful Relation", 1659), and the interpretations of the system have stretched the source material so far as to seem ludicrous.

I totally agree with you regarding the need to approach Enochian magick using the primary source material. The Golden Dawn approach to Enochiana is especially bothersome to me...

Honestly, I have nothing new to add to your excellent and informative post - I just wanted to let you know how much I have enjoyed your posts on some of the Enochian-related forums as well as your website.

93, 93/93

Alkhemia

[ianrons]

93,

Well if you enjoyed them half as much as me, then I enjoyed them twice as much as you.

93 93/93
Ian

[misschief]

wow, thanks alot ben :)ben is the link KING, if you need a link he can find it.

[Ben Gruagach]

ben is the link KING, if you need a link he can find it.

Blush!

I do love researching stuff...

[Gypsy Wyccan]

Have you ever worked with the angels in a pagan setting? This is what I would suggest first and if you seem to have a natural rapport with the angels, I would move on into more complex rituals if you wish and only when you feel comfortable. Try setting up the quadrants with Raphael in the East, Michael in the South, Gabriel in the West, and Uriel in the North. If you wish to call a Lord and Lady aspect of the Angels, I suggest the Forerunners Angels - Metatron (King of the Angels) and Shekinah (Queen of the Angels). Remember, angels are not inherently Christian; they do not belong to any religion. Likewise, don't let the Hebrew suffix -el cloud your judgement about working with the angels if you are pagan. Angels simply exist.

Truly, while I love Enochian magick and I deeply appreciate the depth of ceremonial magick, it can become tedious and overwhelming very quickly. There are a few angels who seem to appear quickly and frequently to magickal operators, so I suggest working with them first if you can. Once you've made any type of angelic connection, no matter how small - it will be the confidence you need to continue your progress in Angel Magick. The Rite of Hagiel is outlined in the Farrar's Witch's Bible and in various High Magick publications, I'm sure it's on the web somewhere, also. Another angel of tremendous occult knowledge is Raziel. His presense is unquestionably male and his gifts are much like those of Thoth and Hermes Trismegistus.

Have you have ever worked with an AngelBoard - basically a Ouija Board with angelic symbols? I have 3 and I never try to invoke any spirit but angelics on these boards. I save my Ouija's for Goetic work. However, I have contacted angels on my Ouija plenty of times. The way to tell for sure if the entity is an angel is that fact that the planchett moves rapidly, so much so that I can hardly hold onto it. Angels are also very speedy and you do get a sense of urgency when they come on the board. It does come across as impatience, so I suggest having a list of questions prepared before starting your talking board session. Another tell-tale sign of angelics on the board and in the room is the abundance of the use of the letter "z" If you study Enochian at all, you'll find out that Kelly and Dee's research is full of "z"s.

When you are ready to work with the main Goddess Angel of Enochian Magick, that will be Babalon. She has 5 sisters (eminations) of herself and Her names are anagrams of Babalon. To begin your acquaintance with the Sisters of Babalon, I highly suggest starting with Alobabn. She is "user-friendly" and provides magickal insights that can help you make your connections to the other aspects of Babalon: the Maiden, Mother, Crone as well as the Seductress and the Lover. Very very empowering for a female magician!!

[ianrons]

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law.

Try setting up the quadrants with Raphael in the East, Michael in the South, Gabriel in the West, and Uriel in the North.
The attribution of the quarters is something of a hot topic in Enochian studies, and is a discussion that will run for a while. The real issue is the attribution of Fire and Air, which are South and East respectively in the Qabalistic (Continental/Golden Dawn) tradition, but which are most plausibly attributed to East and South (respectively) in the Enochia. The issues involved are of the most basic and fundamental nature, and are best developed along their own lines, and in the proper context. Edward Kelley's Vision of the Four Watchtowers is prima facie evidence for the attribution of East:Fire & South:Air.

If you wish to call a Lord and Lady aspect of the Angels, I suggest the Forerunners Angels - Metatron (King of the Angels) and Shekinah (Queen of the Angels).
This seems to be quite misleading. Metatron and Shekinah are of course Qabalistic in origin, and have nothing as such to do with the Enochia. The fact that they are angels is in no way relevant, nor should it seem so; the Qabalah is an "inspired" system, in that it is comprised of deep perceptions of the universe from the human perspective; whilst the Enochian system is basically a "revealed" system, in that it was given to humans by beings who were themselves not hampered by such things as nervous systems. There is a genuine and profound philosophical difference between the two. One might compare the Sigillum Dei with the Tree of Life for an indication of the basic structural differences.

Have you have ever worked with an AngelBoard - basically a Ouija Board with angelic symbols?
Ceremonial magick, in essence, allows one to declare one's will by means of careful, concise and energized action. Allowing random beings to enter one's circle in the carefree manner of Christian spiritists would seem to be the most reckless act of abandon. Invocation is a method whereby particular forces may be called into action by the magician; whilst mediumship is, in contradistinction, the practice of opening oneself up to anything at all which happens to be floating past at the time: not "magick", which is "the art or science of causing change to occur in conformity with the will".

When you are ready to work with the main Goddess Angel of Enochian Magick, that will be Babalon. She has 5 sisters (eminations) of herself and Her names are anagrams of Babalon.
There is no mention of this in the Enochian system as recorded by Dr. John Dee through the skrying of Sir Edward Kelley. Remember, Nancy*'s book is NOT AVAILABLE in bookshops -- buy your copy online today!

Love is the law, love under will.

Ian