Past Lives

[Myst]

Have you ever regressed into past lives or been told what yours might have been? Any interesting stories? Thoughts on past lives and whether it's good to access them? Would you regress into one? Would you try to access one without regressing into it? Comments?

[Myst]

I've never regressed into past lives or examined them myself tho I'm told I died young many many times. I'm also told I spent a lot of time in the Summerland between lives, watching and waiting 'till I felt like coming back again, and that in this life my goal is to achieve your typical storybook life of perfect career, family, wisdom, spirituality, etc. (ie. the picket fence).

My fiance has also never regressed or examined past lives, tho he is believed to have been a warrior in many past lives. My friends refuse to help him regress because they're afraid they won't be able to physically control him if they do.

We have met in previous lives and been attracted to eachother but this is the first time we've gotten together (kind of interesting considering the circumstances by which we did).

[slvr_phoenix]

I haven't 'regressed' into any past lives, but I have occasionally caught memories from them, dreams of them, and been confronted with them in meditations.

I think I'd be afraid to actually 'regress' into a past life partly for the same reason (that I've been a warrior one too many times in past lives), but more for the reason of the emotional pain it would bring me. I know I've lost / sacrificed a lot in past lives.

My most recent lives (including this one) are meant to be more of a vacation to get away from violence. (At least that's what I think.) They're a time of renewal and finding joy in existence. :)

[Myst]

Interesting, Slv. My fiance is a little afraid to as well, as it's possible that he was a bit of a tyrant and killed many people without a "good" reason (ie. as a viking, nazi, etc.). This belief was confirmed one night by one of our friends when she was very open and talking about past lives. He feels guilty about it already so I think he'll have to come to terms with that and forgive himself before looking any further into this.

[Armitage]

I've been trying to look into it by looking at behaviors I have that I'm not sure why they're there. It's hard going, but when you're too poor to go get regressed by a hypnotist...*shrugs*

[Myst]

Hm you don't need a hypnotist..

my friends have successfully regressed by meditation, and one even regresses involuntarily sometimes when she's really relaxed.

[SpikesPet5150]

Once, when I was a kid, my family and I were taking a vacation to Oregon, to see my father's family. I was 6 years old, and had never been to Oregon. On the outskirts of Long Creek, I saw a house... and I started pointing at it and crying and screaming, "I died there! I died there!" Freaked my parents out. I had a perfect memory of being killed in that house, but I was much older and had black hair.

I've had dreams about past experiences, and they always involve Sean (my fiance). Sometimes we're romantically together, sometimes we're not, but we're always together.

I'm not sure if I'd like to get into any of my past lives, other than a few random experiences. I'm not sure why, but I'm afraid to see who I was, how I lived. Maybe I was a bad person, I dunno.
~Bree
:elf:

[Lavender]

When I was a child, I used to have flashes of memories that felt really real. I remember when I was 5, my parents were taking us out on an outing to one of the nearby towns. I remember telling them that I've been there & described a building and a park nearby it. When we got there, the park was there but no building...just an empty lot. My mom's friend said that the bulding was torn down about 15 years previous. The freaky thing is that we've just moved to Vancouver from HongKong about 6 months ago.

[MistOfTheSea86]

i was told that one of my past lives was in Atlantis, I was one of the High COuncil which governed it and brought a few of the most prosperous years to there... Strange huh?

[quixote]

Ive been told by a psychic that i was japaneese in Hiroshima when the bomb hit. Hypnotherapy for my speech (i stutter),brought out a few more,Chineese, E. indian, mayan. weird stuff.
BB, quixote

[Mariposa De La Luna]

When I first kissed my husband I saw/knew that we had been together romanticly in at least 3 previous lives. My sister even calls us the old married couple and its true. :) I'm being very forgetful this morning, I forgot to add that I did not totally believe in reincarnation at the time. I can't remember if i was open to the idea but thats a moot point now.

How do you regress by using meditation? Is it something you can do the first time? Are there books on it?

[StormCloud]

May I join in?

I was regressed once by a hypnotherapist that specialized in past life regressions. Her technique seemed pretty basic.

Started with the eyes closed and relaxed, visualizing a stairway going down. Walking down the stairs. By the time you're at the end, you're under.

Visualize you come out onto a meadow, with a river or lake in the distance. Visualize the Earth turning in front of you (like a school globe).

She then asked me to stop the globe rotating and asked what country I was in. You say the first thing that pops into your mind.

Then it goes from there. Look at your feet to see what you are wearing. Look around and see where you are. More general questions, being careful not to lead.

I still remember 2 of them clearly. First was in Italy. Lived in a house next to a forest - husband was a blacksmith. He died in a accident while working at a forge - I took one of the horses for help but was too late - he was gone when I got back (just a note, I dislike horses currently - probably the only teenage girl who didn't go through a horse phase in our town :) )

Another was a farmer's wife in Kansas. Again, husband died (I'm hard on husbands..), and I ended up in town as a teacher. Bizarre thing about this one is I remembered the name of the town, but couldn't remember if it was in Kansas or Colorado. Afterwards I looked it up on the internet - seems that the Colorado/Kansas border has moved, this town is on the maps, and even though it's now in Kansas, it used to be in Colorado.

I'm sure there's lots of different techniques for regressions - I've never tried it on my own though.

[sherry]

I was once told by a reader in Casadega Fla. about my past lives and my remaining love of castles. He said I lived in them in past lives and I thought "Oh here we go the princess story" but nope it was that I worked in them as a maid and a cook! That explains why I get all caught up in cleaning everything in sight as a way to releave stress!! and I still love to cook:heartthro

[Swanspirit]

Merry Merry,
Interesting stories, I realy think that sometimes when people come into our lives , especially the important ones we know in REAL LIFE, that we have been in lives with them before.
I have memories of other lives and have had since I was very young , preshcool age. I remember reaching down to grab my long skirts so I wouldnt trip when going up steps , but I was
only three or four and was wearing little kids shorts at the time.
I also have this incredible sensation of looking at my watch a kind of annoyance feeling state, and tapping my foot in impatience , because so much of what we experience as problems has been worked out in the future , and things go much more smoothly . I remember having the feeling of "ITS ABOUT TIME " when microwaves were invented and I especially get that feeling about computers, almost a WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG !!!!!!!!!! feeling . In the future so many of our problems are worked out , but I still get this urgent feeling that earth healing must be done in THIS TIME PERIOD , for that to come about .All of this is a "past life" feeling to it , the same as the Chinese dreams and the others .
The sensation that WAR and even the concept of war is BORING ....... as in ancient history ..........is very real to me .
I would love to get more detail sometimes, but I do have the feeling that now is the important time :>
HUGS
Swannie

[IOLO]

TRY IT!!!!

in a search engine look for "william swygard" or "the awareness technique"......without a doubt THE best method of ( as I prefer to call it----since time is just a way of looking at events---there really is no past or future....just the omnipresent NOW).......other lifetime awareness!!!

You can be a complete skeptic.. don't have to believe the Sun will rise tomorrow....and it will still work for you. One of the best "side-efffects is that for days afterwards you have these spontaneous little "flashbacks"....other details will of other lives will pop into your mind.

But with the Awareness Technique....you actually view and live in the other life.....it's not vague or sketchy.....and it's so simple to do once you get the hang of it.....really try it....

IOLO

[Swanspirit]

Thank you so much ,, for having the generosity of spirit that you do , and for having a name that sounds like Yodeling :> :boing: :boing: :smooch: :smooch:
HUGS
Swanissima

[IOLO]

...my pleasure your Great and Benevolent El Dorado-ship...hehehe

May sound like yodeling.....but the meaning is not too complimentary.....as you know...hehehe

Really though....if you ignore all of his "planes" stuff, and hierarchies....The Awareness Technique is so simple and amazing. My brother and I have been able confirm some information gotten through it.....for instance the floor plan of a church in France which has not existed for 600 years....it's amazing.....

Ye Scion of Ye Olde Wette Goate Clanne.....

IOLOdeler

[loopy]

I did a Yahoo search for this guy, but couldn't find any large source of info or how-to techniques. :( Would you maybe have a specific site bookmarked that you could point me to? :):D

[IOLO]

Hi Loopy

I suggest you try using Google ( www.google.com) as your search engine. Just put in "william swygard awareness technique". That way you will come up with the html links, and just be able to click on them.....

Here are a few below however:

"www.dearbrutus.com/donjeronimo/past_life.htm"

"www.humboldt1.com/~barkndog/gray/multi.htm"

"www.members.aol.com/library14U/mind.htm"

"www.slimeworld.org/forums/gateway/messages/1019.html"

Good luck. I have the original pamphlets if you have any questions. I think you're going to have a great time with this. It's really cool.

Merry Be!!!

IOLO

[Myst]

None of those links work dear.

[IOLO]

Really?....sorry I didn't test them...as I had used some of them before, and they worked then ( within the past year)......the "slimeworld" one actually had a good abbreviated version....that's too bad...Well as I said, try a search in "Google" and look at some of the other results.

Thanks for letting me know that Willow Raven....

Merry Be!!!

IOLO

[The Mad Vitiki]

you know one time I went online and "ask jevs" abut my past lives
now I am just waiting for the movie. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA

[Rick]

Ya have to put in the http:// thingy...

Hey, Mad V... I'm waiting for that movie, too... :smoke:

[Myst]

Originally posted by Rick
Ya have to put in the http:// thingy...

Hey, Mad V... I'm waiting for that movie, too... :smoke:

Erm actually they don't work anyway. Most of them are down/gone :)

[IOLO]

I'm not THAT cyber-impaired...hehehe I know you have to inmclude the "http://"----however maybe I misread something in the rules for this place. I though you couldn't post hyper-links.

Anyway....Willow Raven....I thought you were going to edit that to put it into the right format.

I tired all of the sites I listed and they do connect. And one of them actually gives the instructions on how to do it.

In regards to your very first post, in doing the A/T my brother and I have come up with some fascinating resluts which we have been able to corroborate. Have to talk more of that later.

Thanks, and Merry Be!!

IOLO

[Mariposa De La Luna]

When i used the search engine some of those sites came up and their links worked. So try using that. :D

[yemayasdaughter]

I dont know who I was in a former life, but people I know have always jokingly told me that I must've been a hippie during the sixties (which is funny considering I am from Brooklyn NY, which is DEFINITELY the opposite from any hippie commune! LOL) I generally laugh the comment up, but recently, a lot of things have made me wonder if there was some truth to this. It started when I wanted to move to San Francisco the beginning of last year. (Around the same time I started the Pagan Path) And more recently, I went to go see the off off Broadway play "Love, Janis", based on the life of Janis Joplin... and while there, I felt a presence with me, and honestly felt it was Janis Joplin. I am not saying that I was Janis Joplin in a former life... but, gosh... wouldn't that be cool? :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Swanspirit]

was from NYC......... we loved each other very deeply and she died of an overdose in the early seventies at a very young age .
She was little petite and blonde, but she was tough as nails ..... she could chew horseshoes and spit out nails as they say in Colorado.... where we met :>
Love and light

Swannie

[yemayasdaughter]

Wow... so I wasnt the only hippie in NY! :) i actually was born in 1977.... but Im not blonde and petite (smile)... but I thank you for that... perhaps I should invesitgate and see if there are any hippie communes in the states still

[SpikesPet5150]

Wow Swannie, I haven't heard that saying in years.. my best friend used to say that all the time. And sheoften said, "Rode 'em hard and put 'em away wet." She would say that about pretty much anything. :) Most people say they felt as though they were rode hard and put away wet.. but nope, not her. She had to be the agressive one. :)
~Bree

[Swanspirit]

its Colorado Nostalgia time LOL, and to be sure this is how one sometimes brings up triggers for past lives in nostalgic conversations so we arent Off Topic here ......
IN case someone is feeling Dumber than a box of rocks and meaner than a snake LOL.......
and Yemaya'daughter ........ I just realised you have a quote from one of my favorite authors Anais Nin ............. sigh .....
Love and HUGS
Swannie

[yemayasdaughter]

:D :D Anais Nin is one of my favourites as well!!! I was actually thinking of posting a quote from another one of my fave author's Tom Robbins:D :D

[Swanspirit]

we have a LOT in common here , besides our East Coast origins in this lifetime :>

HUGS
Swannie

[yemayasdaughter]

Whoah... that is trippy!!! I loved Tom Robbins since reading "Even Cowgirls Get the Blues" in highschool (though I thought the movie was disappointing :( ) I have read all of his books, and I think he is an amazingly visual author... I am a musician, and Tom Robbins always inspires my songwriting... his way of being serious and ironic at the same time... amazing!!! ;)

[yemayasdaughter]

AND.... Tom Robbins is really Pagan friendly!!! ;) :D

[Myst]

Originally posted by IOLO
Anyway....Willow Raven....I thought you were going to edit that to put it into the right format.


I changed my mind after realizing they don't work anyway. And you can share URL's here :)

[Astraea]

I don't agree with the Wiccan and Eastern philosophical ideas of reincarnation- that we jump from life to life, new body to new body. I believe our spirits are born into one body and then move beyond the physical realm to new spiritual lives. I don't agree we are all stuck here learning "life lesson" after life lesson in this plane. I have had experiences where I felt I was in another time and place of the past, in another "life" but I don't believe these are glimpses of past lives. There could be thousands of explanations for these experiences. One could be that the spirit of the person I was "in" was attempting to communicate a message, teach me something, etc. But that is just one of many explanations! And of course, I don't rule out reincarnation either. I'm open to whatever may be. It would be arrogant of me to believe my thoughts are correct. Every "belief" I have is just an idea.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Astraea
I don't agree with the Wiccan and Eastern philosophical ideas of reincarnation- that we jump from life to life, new body to new body. I believe our spirits are born into one body and then move beyond the physical realm to new spiritual lives. I don't agree we are all stuck here learning "life lesson" after life lesson in this plane.

For me, when we die we pass to the Summerlands and wait until we feel ready for rebirth. We may choose to be reborn into a new life as we wish, gaining experiences and knowledge on the way. Once through learning on this plane we may pass on to be reborn in a new higher plane to learn more. Finally once we've gained the highest spiritual and physical level, we can choose to start all over again or to guide others on their path...

I think these ideas are similar to Eastern belief, but I'm unsure, they are just what I gather from discussions with my Pagan friends and my own feelings on the subject. So, that's what I believe anyway.

[IOLO]

But they do work Willow...try them.....I just did to make sure...and all of them are working.....did you make sure to type in the "http://"???...hahaha

That's too bad.....because the Awareness Technique is the best method I have ever seen to access other life awareness.....it really works.....oh well

Thanks...ans Merry Be!!

IOLO

[Astraea]

I have spoken to others with very similar beliefs to yours. I like the idea that you believe we may "choose" to be reborn- not that we all just jump from life to life regardless of whether or not our spirits want that. I always had a hard time with the notion that we all must continue to live physical lives over and over again until something beyond us decides we have learned every life lesson that is necessary. I always fell into a thought that we do have some measure of choice in the afterlife and that the "god and goddess," universal energies, destiny, or what have you do not dictate every move that our spirits and bodies must make.

[Astraea]

I was replying to Willow Raven in that post above, sorry I didn't specify that!

[Myst]

IOLO : really? they weren't working before, maybe I mispasted or there was problems with a server or two. *shrug* :)

Astraea : Well being as so much of our beliefs can be based on choosing our own paths, I think it would be silly to assume that we have no control over whether whether we are reborn and when.

When dicussing past lives with my Pagan friends they told me they believed I'd died young in many past lives and that I spent a lot of time in the Summerland between lives, waiting until I wanted to be reborn again. They also suggest that I chose to come into this life to have the full experience - ie. live long, get married, have a career and children, etc. I sincerely believe I chose my parents, and problems to learn from, before I came into this life. I look at the problems I've had and bad things I've experienced as choices I made and things I needed to learn from. Because of this I believe that a lot of the "problems" we think people have are problems their souls chose before they came into this life, or lessons they should learn in this life. But, that's just an idea :)

[Mariposa De La Luna]

My husband's parents are open to the idea of reincarnation. They have a story about him when he was about 3. He told them he was glad that he chose them for his parents. I think around the same time, he was also singing old pirate songs with his uncle and started singing the bawdier verses without being taught! It was a surprise to them but funny :D

[Astraea]

All of your stories are interesting. Sahm, the one about your husband being aware of choosing his parents at such a young age is wondeful.

Willow Raven- in that case, I've met a lot of "silly" pagans. I know quite a few who believe our destiny in the afterlife is out of our hands. I always thought it was arrogant to consider another person's spiritual ideas "silly," unless of course they cross some line of decency (but then, who can ultimately define decency). If those who believe we have no control over our spirits in the afterlife end up being correct, then who looks silly?

[Swanspirit]

and I love the way you put it Astraea......
One of earliest earliest memories was this overwhelming "thought form" if you want to call it that; from way back and I mean TODDLERHOOD,
and I remember trying to tell people and they just hushed me ...........
was that I DIDNT HAVE TO COME BACK, over and over Ijust had this "feeling and information"
YOU DIDNT HAVE TO COME BACK YOU CHOSE TO COME BACK ......but they believed that about as much as they believed I could talk to animals LOL ...
( whoa my light over the computer desk just started blinking ......ok it stopped ;) )
and I have given this much thought ......
Who is to say that everyone on this planet is on the same journey??? Why do we have to have ONE SIZE FITS ALL answers??? Someone might be here to experience being a christian for some reason, someone else might be here because they wanted to experience earth after blowing about on Jupiter as a storm ?? WHO KNOWS??? That is why I think it is SO important for us to find our own answers. Wouldnt it be wonderful if more people were encouraged to find their own answers instead of THE answer?? Much less take responsiblity for their own actions!
Some people may very well be here to learn things , and we all learn something from being here if only how to walk after crawling, but then some people dont ever do that either......but others might be here just to enjoy the planet....what a thought ......
Suppose we are here just to love each other and the emphasis taken off of LEARNING ... so we can be better for "heaven , the next life etc"
GOOD GODDESS we might appreciate each other for who we are !!!!!!!!!!!
Love and Light
Swannie

[Myst]

Oh for the love of Gods, I said I think that idea is silly, not that people who believe it are. There's a severe difference; namely that one references my disagreement with a thought and the other suggests I've said people are "silly" for having different beliefs.

Somedays I really wonder why I post here at all, honestly.:ahhhh:

[Astraea]

Willow Raven:
If you actually read what I typed you will see that I said it is arrogant to suggest other's spiritual IDEAS are silly (my opinion). Suggesting their IDEAS are silly comes across just as arrogant. If I say I think the ideas you typed here are silly, I'm sure you'd have a defensive reaction to that remark- especially considering your reaction to the mild statements I made earlier. And this is the exact reason I have not been here for months- too many people suggesting other's ideas are silly. Pagans are *supposedly* rather open-minded to beliefs that are different, or even contradict, their own. Sometimes when I come here, it's very hard to believe that. Especially when I read that someone regards another pagan's IDEAS as silly, but can't handle others disagreeing with her idea.

[Astraea]

I also wanted to say, there is a difference between disagreeing with a belief and thinking it's silly (at least it always occured that way to me). For instance, I woudn't say the idea of the Christian God is silly simply because I don't agree with it.
Oh, who gives a crap, anyone can call other's ideas silly, it's only my opinion that that thought is arrogant.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Astraea

Willow Raven- in that case, I've met a lot of "silly" pagans.

That would indicate that you assume I said Pagans who believe that are silly (ie. "in that case, I've met a lot of 'silly' pagans"). Thus accusing me of calling people silly. Frankly, I still think it's silly. If you don't think I've been told before that my beliefs are silly or stupid or that I didn't get past that I'm afraid you're wrong. People disagree, and that's it. It doesn't mean they're close minded. If you'll notice, I didn't say that Pagans who think that are wrong or they aren't real Pagans, I said I believe that thought is silly. I didn't say that I knew Just because I believe other people can think differently does NOT mean I have to agree with them. Period.

Since that's not the topic of the thread, if you're still offended let me know in PM, not here, if you don't mind. Thanks.

[Sequoia]

Willow Raven - I would respectfully ask you to calm down. . . you seem to be on a hair-trigger lately, is something upsetting you? I'm a little concerned, is everything ok?

Astrea - I agree. Just because an idea isn't the one you belive in, that doesn't mean it's silly. I like how you're wording things. And no, I don't think you're saying crap. Your opinion is valuable to me! And I"m sure to others! ^_^ keep talking!

Swan Spirit - exactly. No two people have exactly the same path, I think. . . I think that perhaps even the different kinds of lives are possible! Perhaps some spirits do go suddenly from life to life. Perhaps some choose. Perhaps some are guided by fate and don't have as many choices as they think theyd o. . . I honestly can't say. ^^; can't remember the details of times between lives, though I know that I didn't just suddenly pop from life to life, at least I don't think I did. I remember time gaps.

Well, anyways. . . I hope this doesn't escalate into arguing. People are just sharing ideas. This is always a good thing! Let's keep it happy, ok guys?

~Puma

[Myst]

Yup, and I'm sharing ideas and opinions just like everyone else.

SooOOO does anyone else want to share their experiences delving into past lives? Has anyone else been able to regress or have memories they'd like to share?

[Swanspirit]

that another trigger for me is walking up steps with a candle..... steps are definitely a theme
OMGODDESS I just remembered TWO other times that involved steps ...... one i was coming up some steps in an old building in downton Baltimore yeesh this had to be in what 1971?? (another kind of past life LOL)
and someone seriously touched me on the shoulder ..... and I started to respond to the touch ( there wasnt a person there) and my friend waiting at the top for me said ..... "LEAVE IT ALONE" if you stir it up it causes trouble" ....so I deferred to his wisdom and went on....
and another time in a old 1773 plantation in Northtern Maryland called Manor Glen, coming down the steps but that was a constant there was always something on that spot on the steps......
steps theme..... places of transition interesting ..... anyway maybe I spent a lot of time going up and down steps ........they seem to be a huge trigger for me .......
BUT the point of this whole thing is .......
not all past life memories are large , some are small every day things.....
I think sitting around fires is so hypnotic for people because if you had a past life on this planet you probably were close to a fire for survival .... the smell of the earth ..... clothing we wore . all these things ..... can be memories and some are for me ..... some very plain and homespun......
except when I interact with my daughter and mother ......they seem to bring memories of silks and satins and jewels .......
I am the homespun one ....... :> they are so alike and are more suited to finery then I ( I can do it but :rolleyes: I do know I have spent many lifetimes with them ........
.......when my daughter is around I can almost hear the rustle of fine fabrics..... and feel soft oriental carpets under my feet .....
Many of my associations are like that ..... does any one else have such assocaitions with people in their lives??
Love and Light
Swannie

[Myst]

Interesting. Another memory that might be brought up by fire is fear because of the burning times. One night amongst a group of people, one of my closest female friends regressed into a life during the burning times. It was pretty horrible :( Personally I'm leery of fire (especially when they start throwing coffee mate at it), and fireworks (ie. explosions of fire, I think for a similar reason)... I've also been afraid of tornadoes since I was a child, so I'm pretty sure I lost my life in one at one time.

It's also interesting how people in your past lives can show up again. For example, my closet group of friends all believes we've been together in some form or another in various lives. My best male friend, I believe, has been my brother in more then one life. My two best female friends believe we were together as sisters and as friends and travelling gypsies together. We truly believe we are "soul mates".

As far as people bringing on a response. My best friend realized the reason why she couldn't get along with our other best friend's fiance - she visited a past life wherein she was the daughter of the best friend, and the fiance came in and harassed this best friend (either beating her up and killing her or stealing her away). So she just doesn't feel comfortable with this guy. It's something she has to work through. Interesting tho.

[Swanspirit]

that some people( could say places and things too I guess ) trigger such incredible responses and others leave us cold......... I believe that there are no coincidences ........
So I tend to believ and have experienced that the ones with the stronger impressions have deeper meanings .
Meeting someone in real life has deper meaning than internet etc etc...... tho the internet can generate strong responses as well......
HUGS
Swannie

[Myst]

Very true, Swan. For example, usually when I meet new women I'm quieter or cautious about becoming friends with them. But when I met one of my best friends in this life we immediately clicked. It was amazing. My mom met her and felt the exact same way. She's such a brilliant open-minded lady, and I'm proud to think that she has been both my friend and sister in previous lives.

Then there are those people who you meet and you just go "ugh". It could be the difference in energy, or possibly your soul reacting to theirs.

Then there's people who go somewhere and know before they get there what it will look like, or mysteriously find their way even if they've never been there before... Fascinating stuff!

[Astraea]

Willow Raven-
In just a few posts I've already noticed you have a knack for putting words into people's mouths- or in this case typing words on people's screens. I never said anything about anyone being wrong or somene not being a real pagan. Where are you coming up with these things? I also never said anything about you thinking the pagans themselves are silly. You said the idea is silly and I said I think it's arrogant to say someone's idea is silly. I never said a word about you having to agree with anyone. How hard is that to grasp, honestly? I understand perfectly what you said- you think the idea we spoke of is silly. Okay? I got it the first time around. And here's a tip- I simply think it's arrogant to say someone's spiritual idea is silly. Thinking a person's idea is silly is NOT the same as disagreeing.
And I never said no one has ever said your ideas are silly- or that you didn't get past that. We've all gone through it. But it seems a truly respectful person would refrain from saying other's ideas are silly- rather choose simply to disagree with them.
You don't have to worry about me coming back here and gettting "off topic" because I don't appreciate short tempered people twisting my words.

Puma Hime, I appreciate what you said. I know it seems I'm arguing, and I don't like it. It's not easy to have someone twist my words like this! I'm sure you've had that happen to you before. I hope I see you in another forum here so we can talk sometime, I just can't imagine I will want to come back here to have someone tell me I typed things I never typed.

[Myst]

Originally posted by Swanspirit
So I tend to believ and have experienced that the ones with the stronger impressions have deeper meanings .
Meeting someone in real life has deper meaning than internet etc etc...... tho the internet can generate strong responses as well......

Very true. I suppose on the internet their energy is not so physically close. Tho I do know some people who can sense that sort of thing online - once I had someone give me an aura reading online! It was made even more fascinating by the fact that she was right on (and not just on my current emotion but my personality too). Out of the many people you meet everyday most just seem to pass by, but you're right, some just grab you and it's probably a deeper meaning... they could be from a past life... that would be interesting.

Definitely true of the friends I mentioned. I've been thinking about doing a regression with my friends next Circle. Could be interesting. I'll let you know how that goes. :)

[Dathan]

astraea, your intelligence, maturity and level of reading comprehension seems to surpass willow raven's....by far so i wouldn't even bother with arguing with her. stick to the others here who can read what is typed and have a measure of respect for oposing views. check out her childish masterpiece in Just Talk if you want a good laugh.

past lives are a complicated matter. i've had instances when i felt i was realizing a past life but i later found it was a spirit guide passing on information to me in the form of an elaborate vision. on the other hand i have met people who i believe i knew in another time and place. our spirits seem to connect in incredible ways and we seem to be able to speak more fluidly with each other. i don't think of realizing a past life as a regression but i have experienced it many times since i was about age 10.

[Dathan]

by the way willow...your pm made absolutely no sense and was a nice attempt at turning my words around Once Again. i displayed no temper...it was my way of taking your stab at a sagacious response lightly. funny how you make a reply that makes no sense and then put me on ignore. convenient for you i'm sure.
pumahime i forgot to say that your responses here were well received also.
i actually wonder if willow may have some sort of split personality disorder. that or she's just an angry teenager who can't handle criticism.

[mol]

Originally posted by Dathan
astraea, your intelligence, maturity and level of reading comprehension seems to surpass willow raven's....by far so i wouldn't even bother with arguing with her. stick to the others here who can read what is typed and have a measure of respect for oposing views. check out her childish masterpiece in Just Talk if you want a good laugh.


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Refer to rule #2 in our Community rules about bashing other members of this Community.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5305

[Mairwen]

~ MODERATOR MODE ~

The personal attacks in this thread have got to stop!! NOW!

[Dathan]

i've read it more than once. i'm not bashing i'm stating an opinion about the way she conducts herself here.

it's sickening when you cannot make a disagreeing remark to someone without being accused of saying something you never said. that's childish behavior.
if you think it's bashing i promise you that i won't say another word about her or this incident. i'll do you one better...i may not even return. there seems to be too many people here who can't stick to what it typed but instead make assuptions and mindless accusations.

[mol]

Originally posted by Dathan
i've read it more than once. i'm not bashing i'm stating an opinion about the way she conducts herself here.

it's sickening when you cannot make a disagreeing remark to someone without being accused of saying something you never said. that's childish behavior.
if you think it's bashing i promise you that i won't say another word about her or this incident. i'll do you one better...i may not even return. there seems to be too many people here who can't stick to what it typed but instead make assuptions and mindless accusations.

SITE GOD MODE

Didnt bother to read those rules did you?

Ok. How about, refer to rule #2 AND rule #4 and rule #5.

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5305

This thread needs to return to the original topic or it will be closed.

[Eudaimonia]

Never regressed, never had any odd memories.... I do have house dreams though! They're usually pretty tripped out (I only made the connection the other day that every dream has something to do with magic-dragonlance style in it) but they're always in the same house. And it's always at night. The oddest thing about the house is that, to get from one upstairs wing to another, you walk across the roof.

That's the only thing I have to go on, really. A friend once told me that she supposed I have a "new soul". I don't know the first way to go about finding out about past lives. Hmmm... maybe those shrooms tommorow night will help....

[Sequoia]

I know relatively a lot about my past lives. . .

I know several well enough to have memories of just average days. . . there was a thread I started in the history forum, and I'll pull it back up if anyone's interested in that as well.

A lot of things were somewhat triggered. . . I can remember lives from as far back as Atlantis to as far forward as. . . well. . . I"m not AS certain about the more recent ones, but I think I remember a life that ended in the 20's or 30's. . . I remember in the middle ages sometime I was a noble's daughter (a high-ish noble, I don't know exactly the rank. Not a KING, but not a knight's daughter, either). I was a kind of frail woman, German. . . I had a white falcon, I knew how to shoot with a bow, I could read I think. . . . my father was a very cruel man, he wanted to marry me off, but I had fallen in love with a wanderer, a man who became the falconer of our estate. . . I would often run away, and one of the main guards of our estate would come and find me, and although my father would tell him to punsh me he wouldn't. . . he was kind-hearted. . . .and one day I met the falconer, and he and I fell in love. . . . and when my father found out about this, he had me walled inside a tiny closet-sized room. I died there. . .
The funny thing is, the group of friends I'm with now were all there. . . the remember it as well. The man I'm in love with currently is that wandering falconer, and I knew him before then too. . . . from what my friends remembered and told me, after I died they were all devistated. . . . the one who was always kind to me was the one who was forced to wall me in, and after I died he killed himself, and my father ordered my love killed.

It's like a sad epic. . . . almost all of the lives were very sad. I can remember times when I ended up with my love's friend instead of with him! And he with the woman who has constantly been my friend and sister. Belive it or not, those two souls are still with us, although oddly enough my sister is now his saber and his friend (my sister's soulmate ^^; ) is now my dagger. . . . it's very very odd, but it seems all of us in this group cannot be seperated.

And I swear, once in meditation while holding the dagger, I heard him call me by the name I had in the time period I just told you about. He called me "Lady Bess" . . . it's weird. Just plain weird.

^^; but I remember so much detail, it's like remembering my own life at times. Maybe I'm lucky, and with some of the things that happened, maybe I'm unlucky. But for me it's important to remember, it helps me understand a lot of my reactions now.

And because of another past life (I'm not sure when, though), I have irrational fears of sirens (ambulence or police sirens are close enough to send my adrenaline rushing), helecopters (not ALL helecopters. . . I still don't know the difference consiously, but some helecopters don't bother me and some just DO. . . it's weird. I can't explain the difference in the sound but somehow I know.), sleeping in large rooms or open areas. . . . I think I must've been running from someone who had access to air travel! ^^;;; And air horns, like the kind of things for volunteer fire departments or nuclear power plants. . . THOSE freak me out!!!!! I always have to breathe really deeply and ground like the dickens when I hear those, I get so filled with terror.

ah, this post is long enough! ^^; hehe

[The Mad Vitiki]

Has any one ask a 3 year old about who they were before they were born ? If you havent you might try it you can get some intersinting answers.
I ask my son when he was 3 he told me he cut off heads in Chine. A day later we where palying and he took a plasic knife and ran it over my jugler made me a beliver
thene I ask my oldest daughter and she told me they burned my soal in a small conuntry,
so what you think???
THE MAD VITIKI

[Myst]

Hm very interesting... I suppose at that age they aren't subject to the belief that this stuff is "make believe". I envy my nieces, they are young and are being brought up Pagan; they won't ever gave to overcome what they were told to see magickal things.

[Anwyn]

When my youngest brother was 4 or 5, he was excitedly telling me about something he had seen in Pokemon, and how the main character had died but then come back to life. I was in the middle of doing something else, so I asked him something like "What really happens when you die?" not really thinking about what he would say. He told me very solemly that you wait for awhile, think about your life, and then get born again, to a new life.

Now, my entire family is devoutly Christian (I have to keep my mouth shut on matters of religion around my siblings) and my brother has gone to church every Sunday since he was born. There's no way he picked that up somewhere else. He's 8 now, and I rather doubt that he remember it. It does give me a little hope, though, which is especailly comforting since I know that he has been my son in a past life.

Speaking of which... I remember so many of my past lives that I have lost count, and not all of them are here. A few are on different worlds, and so I am of the opinion that there are many different worlds we can be born into, and each has its own set of experiences.

Anyway, I remember the most recent two the best. In my last life, I was born in southern Germany in the fall of 1929 to a Jewish family, and I died sometime during or immediately after the war. I mostly remember important moments, but there are somethings that are fairly mundane. Until recently, I thought I'd died in a camp in the winter of 1944, but I've recently remembered something that doesn't fit with that, so it may have been a year or two later. Its a work in progress, as always.

In the life before that, I was born in the spring of 1850, just outside Paris. I died in Prague in November of 1871, under what could be called "suspicious circumstances." The one nice thing about being on the receiving end of a murder is that at least it isn't a mystery to you!

I know people from both of these lives. I've been close to each of them at different points in time, usually when I was remembering the most about the life I knew them in, but I'm not close to any of them now. For the most part, it seems like I just had karma to work out with them, and now that I've done that, I'm able to move on. The only exceptions are my mother in this life, who I think may have been my mother in Germany, and my father in this life, who I think may have been my father in France.

Beyond that, I know that I have known my best friend before, at least once, in Egypt, and I know I have known my fiance several times before. Thankfully, he believes in reincarnation as well, and so we often just sit around and talk about what we remember from this life or that life. Its really rather fun, and we end up remembering more together than we would have on our own.

This is getting to be a really long post, so I'm going to sign off now. I'm more than happy to talk about this, its one of my favorite topics!

~Anwyn

[Rick]

When my youngest was 2, I aked him where he was before he was born. He very matter-of-factly responded, "Big ball in the sky." A few nights later, we were outside. We walked out from under the carport, where he spotted the full moon. He pointed to the moon & began to yell "Big ball in the sky! Big ball in the sky!"

[Sequoia]

o.o wow. . . your son said he was the moon? that's incredible!

[Myst]

Hm I interpreted it more as him saying he'd lived on the moon or on another planet more then he WAS the moon. Interesting, Rick. Aren't kids great ;)

[MistOfTheSea86]

We have a strange connection when it comes to this. Its really kinda funny...