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~Macha~
October 11th, 2004, 01:49 PM
It took me a long time to decide where to post this message. I decided here because it affects everyone.
It saddens me greatly to see pagans and especially Wiccans argue with one another about who is right regarding how to envision the Divine. I had a dream based off a story I read once. I don't recall the author, nor where I read it, I give that person all the credit in the world that I possibly can.
Here was my dream:
Two pagans, a Dianic and a "fluffy" (a term just for use) were at a pagan festival. Perhaps a Sabbat, perhaps just a gathering. But they were arguing over who's vision of the Goddess was correct. The Dianic held that the Goddess was an avanger, sacred only to woman, who hated men and only wanted women to worship her. The "fluffy" saw her as an eternal mother, proud of her sexuality, a woman who took as many lovers are she wanted, yet belonged to no man. She appreciated all followers and worshippers, male or female. "You make her out to be a cosmic Barbie Doll!" said the Dianic. "And you make her out to be a man eating Lesbian!" yelled the "fluffy". They argued and argued till the point both got to the point they just walked away. Both waundered off into the surround woods, ranting and raving about how they were right. Then the "fluffy" stopped. In a clearing, light by the light of the full moon was a beautiful woman, with long flowing red hair, dressed in a flowing robe. She was curvy, from childbirth and from womanhood. "Come to me my child" the Goddess said. And the "fluffy" rushed forward to embrace her. At the same time, the Dianic saw the Goddess as Artimis, or perhaps an Amazon, dressed for battle, spear in hands, hair tied back under her helmet. "Come to me my child" said the Goddess, so the woman rushed forward to embrace her. At the moment both came to hold the woman they saw as Goddess, she disappeared, and they found themselves hugging each other.
At this point, the dream changed and I was aware of myself and of a definate powerful female precence, and that presence spoke to me:
"I am Both and I am neither, I am all and I am none. I am who I am, I am Maiden, I am Mother, I am Crone. I exist in all, I am all and All are from me. See me as you wish, but now that your vision of me is as true as everyone else's. You are right as to who I am, but you are also wrong. Embrace me in all my forms, in my sensuality, in my anger, in my happiness, in my womanhood, in my sadness."

silverstard
October 11th, 2004, 03:37 PM
That was a beautiful dream. Thank you for sharing this story with us. :)

Aedrais
October 11th, 2004, 04:25 PM
:hugz: That's beautiful. Beautiful.

Mad Dame
October 11th, 2004, 08:46 PM
Wow, what a wonderful dream. Wow!

turtlerain46
October 11th, 2004, 11:09 PM
That's so beautiful, thank you for sharing.

~Macha~
October 13th, 2004, 02:51 PM
I feel Kind of alone in this... has anyone else had the Goddess speak to them in a dream? :smile: When I realized I was a Cottage Witch, I had a dream that Frigga (my matron) appeared in my Kitchen, gave me a hug and helped me clean the house. Not something we would normally envision a goddess doing, manual labor, but if she's the Norse goddess of the home and marriage, it stands that she would clean a house, right? Anyway- anyone else with Divine Visitation dreams?

DaniLea
October 14th, 2004, 12:04 AM
I've had a dream about the Goddess. She was standing on the top of a windy mountain dressed in filmy white. It was nighttime and there was a full moon. It is impossible to explain the kind of beauty she exuded, not just physical ya know? Anyway, she was just standing there, watching over everything. That vision still brings me extraordinary peace. To me deities are more about the emotions they stir within us than what we can actually picture them looking like. It is hard to wrap your mind around it....

dental witch
January 13th, 2005, 07:42 PM
That was a wonderful dream. Thanks for sharing:)

Bix
January 13th, 2005, 07:48 PM
Wow, you have nice dreams. Mine are all weird and random, lol.

cheddarsox
January 14th, 2005, 05:41 AM
I feel Kind of alone in this... has anyone else had the Goddess speak to them in a dream?

I have had dreams in which I encountered the divine, but not in the form of the Goddess.

cheddar

Kastanie
January 14th, 2005, 06:49 AM
perhaps in the form of Gouda? or Emmental? lol

Cottage Witch - that is a beautiful dream, may i post it to another forum? how much of it's content is taken from the story you had read?

absolutely lovely and no you are not alone, many are visited and yes the whole anti-fluffy thing bugs me too. live and let live i say xx infact, live and help live well is a better one ;)

Sekushi Cho
January 14th, 2005, 07:16 AM
How pretty! I'm practically in tears here! But you have dreams that make a lot of sense... like they have a plot and monologue.... mine are the complete opposite... anyways... thanks for sharin! _catroll_

Dio
January 14th, 2005, 12:14 PM
Thank you for sharing your beautiful dream! There is a lot of wisdom in it. It really touched my heart.

Darakash
January 14th, 2005, 12:50 PM
Cottage Witch - that is a beautiful dream, may i post it to another forum?

Um, wow, isn't that interesting, I was just gonna ask Cottage Witch to visit another thread/forum and maybe post this, cause the original post was struggling a bit and this seemed a perfect response!

Anyway, the thread in question is http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=81875 and you will find many of the responses are about each of us having our own "truth" and this vision of the goddess seems so apropo to that thread!
DK

MoonDragn
January 14th, 2005, 12:56 PM
To answer your question cottagewitch, yes I have had dreams of the goddess visiting me but I think that dream belongs in MWad LOL. Lets just say it got the blood pumping.

Parts of that dream you described fits my dreams exactly. She has shown me other dreams also, about death, birth, and a magical book I have yet to find or understand what it is for.

Pure Ahimsa
January 14th, 2005, 01:01 PM
Wow. That dream is awesome. :)
Everyone should hear this.

Pure Ahimsa
January 14th, 2005, 01:04 PM
I have encountered a few Celtic figures in Celtic Shamanic Journeys. I got a mental something about "Dagduh" and then found it to be Daghda.

Pure Ahimsa
January 14th, 2005, 01:06 PM
I thought "Fluffy" was a term for teens who think it is cool to practice magick so they say they are Witches or stuff like that.
Or is that fluffy bunny.... confused? What is Fluffy and what is Fluffy Bunny?

zakzekezedd
January 14th, 2005, 01:12 PM
hmmm..I rarely remember dreams, and aside from a strong sense of a "presence" and a very gentle "I am with you my child" I can't say I've actually encountered the Goddess or the Divine. Somehow in my minds eye I always see the Goddess as a beautiful, graceful woman with a gentle face and kind heart who is fully capable of taking up the sword and standing unwaveringly in the face of the enemy if it is needed. It's hard to explain, but I really have no trouble reconciling the many faces we put on the Goddess into one.


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