find child energy?

[Lady Jade]

OK, here's the original post to go with this energy request:

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=69566

I have already made a police report, contacted the Salvation Army in Las Vegas, contacted my local children' s services office, contacted the presiding court over the custody issue, and nobody is willing to help me until the court rules on the custody matter which could be several weeks from now. I see my attorney tomorrow to discuss how to proceed on that avenue.

The rest of my personal life is undergoing serious upheaval right now as well, but I don't want to go into those details. The whereabouts of my daughter is of the most importance.

Please send my daughter and her father thoughts of safety and a message to call home.
Please include me in your thoughts, as I am at my wits end.

Thanks!

[~whispers~]

I am so sorry to hear what you are going through. You are in my thoughts as well as those of my sisters. We will light a help candle this evening and send all our energies your way. Hopefully this will all work out very very soon for you!

[Aleannah]

:hugz: to you for having the courage to go through this...may you receive word of your daughter that she is safe, and let her know that she is very much loved by you and how much you need her. In addition, may the courts rule in a way that is best possible for all concerned parties. (((((energy sent)))))

[Know Your Rights]

Energy sent.

[Nadira_Akila]

:ack: I truly feel for you...please be strong. I am sending energy of safety and comfort for your daughter and sending compassion&compromise energy to your daughter's father. I am sending strength and comfort to you as well. Be strong.

Peace&Light
Nadira

[~Anamorata~]

Much energy sent!

[Teresa]

:hugz::hugz: Sending You lots of energies !! I will light a candle for you and also add You to my prayers !!

[Semele]

On the way.

[~*Ginger*~]

Much 'child finding' energy & :hugz: for you and yours.

[OriginalWacky]

I'll be lighting a candle.

[faerieridingdragons]

:hugz: Energy sent.I hope they call you soon,or better yet she comes home.

[Lady Jade]

Well, I went to my long awaited lawyer appointment to get told they would not help either. It seems that since the Court needs an address to mail the contempt charges to and we have no address for him, then this attorney is unwilling to "waste the court's time" with a frivolous matter. The only other recourse is to find an attorney I have to pay (last one was free) that is willing to fight to get the Court to allow us to notify him of custody proceedings via newspaper ads for a period of six more weeks, so we are talking another 2 months here.... Then the custody issues would proceed through the Court and eventually I get legal custody and then and only then will they list her as missing. I have contacted these following agencies with no help:

Children' Services
Private Attorney
Child Support Services
Legal Aid
City Police Dept
County Police Dept.
Ohio's Missing Children's Clearinghouse
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
Salvation Army
Family Court (presiding)
Welfare Office
Public School (who failed to report her now 8 week truancy!)

Every place I have turned I get passed off to someone who finally says they can't help me. This is crazy, are there no real laws to protect the non residential parent? How can this situation be so infrequent that our legislature has not addressed it?

I think the only avenues left to me are pretty "out there" and I am again not sure how to proceed. I can call the press and hope they will help, but that's pretty public and I am not a public person. If the news ran the story, would my ex and daughter run away again or deeper into hiding? I don't know if I am prepared for a media circus.

I could also call a PI to see if they can track them down. Again money is a consideration. Hopefully a PI could tell me where they are if they are ok and I could just show up and suprise them. This seems like the best idea so far. We can hope he is easy to find but there are no credit cards, bank accounts, passports, school records have not been requested, they have no money, so shelters and soup kitchens are a good bet. All the same, we don't know where they really are to even begin to look. somewhere is the US, maybe Las Vegas.

I feel like I have exhausted all avenues and still there are no answers. I still do not even know if she is alive. I try to keep my mind from rehearsing scenarios of what could happen to an old man and a young girl on the streets of Las Vegas or somewhere. Going to bed not knowing is the worst, when I sleep I dream of them in nightmarrish (sp) situations. Anything is possible, he is not a good parent and she would do anything he asked of her and more. I can see her suggesting possible ways to make money and him letting her if SHE thought it was ok.

I will decide by Monday what to do after talking to my extended family. So far, my dad has already said "she is not worth the investment" in regard to the expense of an attorney. My mom went on vacation last week. My sister is concerned enough to check on me and if I need her to do anything. She went with me to try to file a police report. However, she has 3 kids and a recent marriage breakup to deal with. That's about it. You guys here at MW are a big help just letting me vent and say to someone who cares what is going on, thanks all!

[Total Bookaholic]

This may sound sort of out there and wacky, and I know you said that you are a private person but have you thought of contacting Montel Williams? I did when I was looking for Yvonne<Toxic families thread back in June>. I'm not sure but he moght be able to help AND Call attention to the fact that you got no help whatsoever from all those other agencies. Whatever you choose to do I send what energy I can and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Heather :huddle: :hugz:

[Lady Jade]

This may sound sort of out there and wacky, and I know you said that you are a private person but have you thought of contacting Montel Williams? I did when I was looking for Yvonne<Toxic families thread back in June>. I'm not sure but he moght be able to help AND Call attention to the fact that you got no help whatsoever from all those other agencies. Whatever you choose to do I send what energy I can and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Heather :huddle: :hugz:


My sister suggested the same thing. It is definitely something to consider.

I am more upset now. I just got off the phone with Children's Services who just told me the other day that I had no right as a non custodial parent to know if my ex (and daughter)is being investigated by them. A case worker called me today to let me know that they did start getting reports of inappropriate circumstances for a child in early September, but were never able to contact them. They have placed their names and SSN on alert with a Nationwide database of Public Services like welfare etc, so if they apply for help they will be immediately investigated by the local children's services office and this office will be informed of their current address. At least that's something...but where were they a month ago when all this was coming to a head and why did they not pursue immediate removal from the home?

Our system is so screwed up, how could she fall through the cracks?

[magick_faerie]

my thoughts are with you at this terrible time, brightest blessings freind....

[~*Ginger*~]

My sister suggested the same thing. It is definitely something to consider.

Our system is so screwed up, how could she fall through the cracks?
Or maybe even Oprah!

I'm so sorry this is happening...
Hope all is well soon!

[edenbolake]

MM,
dear you might want to contact these people and see if they can help.

cyberTipline at www.cybertipline.com
and1-800-lost( 1-800-843-5678
www.missingkids.com
National center for missing & exploited children
phone # 1-703-274-3900
FACSIMILE # 1-703-274-2200
E-MAIL ADDY. reprints@ncmec.org

you may be able to find some answers here . I will light a candle for you . I caught the tail end of your situation because I haven't been here that long but sometimes it helps to go higher in the chain of command. If you need anymore information let me know and I will see what I can come up with.

blessings edenbolake









Well, I went to my long awaited lawyer appointment to get told they would not help either. It seems that since the Court needs an address to mail the contempt charges to and we have no address for him, then this attorney is unwilling to "waste the court's time" with a frivolous matter. The only other recourse is to find an attorney I have to pay (last one was free) that is willing to fight to get the Court to allow us to notify him of custody proceedings via newspaper ads for a period of six more weeks, so we are talking another 2 months here.... Then the custody issues would proceed through the Court and eventually I get legal custody and then and only then will they list her as missing. I have contacted these following agencies with no help:

Children' Services
Private Attorney
Child Support Services
Legal Aid
City Police Dept
County Police Dept.
Ohio's Missing Children's Clearinghouse
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
Salvation Army
Family Court (presiding)
Welfare Office
Public School (who failed to report her now 8 week truancy!)

Every place I have turned I get passed off to someone who finally says they can't help me. This is crazy, are there no real laws to protect the non residential parent? How can this situation be so infrequent that our legislature has not addressed it?

I think the only avenues left to me are pretty "out there" and I am again not sure how to proceed. I can call the press and hope they will help, but that's pretty public and I am not a public person. If the news ran the story, would my ex and daughter run away again or deeper into hiding? I don't know if I am prepared for a media circus.

I could also call a PI to see if they can track them down. Again money is a consideration. Hopefully a PI could tell me where they are if they are ok and I could just show up and suprise them. This seems like the best idea so far. We can hope he is easy to find but there are no credit cards, bank accounts, passports, school records have not been requested, they have no money, so shelters and soup kitchens are a good bet. All the same, we don't know where they really are to even begin to look. somewhere is the US, maybe Las Vegas.

I feel like I have exhausted all avenues and still there are no answers. I still do not even know if she is alive. I try to keep my mind from rehearsing scenarios of what could happen to an old man and a young girl on the streets of Las Vegas or somewhere. Going to bed not knowing is the worst, when I sleep I dream of them in nightmarrish (sp) situations. Anything is possible, he is not a good parent and she would do anything he asked of her and more. I can see her suggesting possible ways to make money and him letting her if SHE thought it was ok.

I will decide by Monday what to do after talking to my extended family. So far, my dad has already said "she is not worth the investment" in regard to the expense of an attorney. My mom went on vacation last week. My sister is concerned enough to check on me and if I need her to do anything. She went with me to try to file a police report. However, she has 3 kids and a recent marriage breakup to deal with. That's about it. You guys here at MW are a big help just letting me vent and say to someone who cares what is going on, thanks all!

[Emerald Lily]

(((Energy sent)))

I was so upset to read what you have been going through. My support is with you and I am lighting a candle for her to contact you :hugz:

[Shatril]

Call home ((((energy)))

[Aleannah]

I am sending more energy your way and lighting a candle.... :hugz:

[Lady Jade]

There's no real news, though I did talk to the city poilice officer who took my report. He agreed to call Las Vegas Salvation Army and inquire if they have been helped there, at least he is doing something, even though she is not "officially" missing. He suggested getting an appointment with the Prosecutor's office and see if they will accept the bigger picture of the situation, then see if the criminal statute applies. I read over it and it can be interpreted either way, most of the time, not in my favor.

§ 2919.23. Interference with custody.

(A) No person, knowing the person is without privilege to do so or being reckless in that regard, shall entice, take, keep, or harbor a person identified in division (A)(1), (2), or (3) of this section from the parent, guardian, or custodian of the person identified in division (A)(1), (2), or (3) of this section:

(1) A child under the age of eighteen, or a mentally or physically handicapped child under the age of twenty-one;


Opinions? I think the meaning has to be stretched to apply, but it could apply. He enticed her and was reckless in his action. *shrugs*

Someone pointed out to me today that this is her thing to go through, her lesson/test if you will. I am affected by it, but she is central to it and how it unfolds. I can only be here to pick up the pieces.

[Nissala]

energies sent hon.

[LadyAutumnCat]

Energy sent. I'm so sorry you are going through this. :hugz:

[ObsidianSunrise]

:hugz: I'm sending you supportive and comforting energies. I have to agree on going to Montel Williams and telling him your story. He seems to be able to move and shake things up and get a lot of things done no one else seems to be inclined to do. At the least if his people can find them, you would know where they are and how she is doing. It is worth a try! I'm keeping you in my thoughts.

[soilsigh aingeal]

I'm I'm thinking of you and your daughter. :hugz:

[Teresa]

I have you and your child in my prayers still .

[Lady Jade]

So, there's been no news, no phone call. No agency is willing to help me still, even thought the law provides for it (IMHO)

Please continue to send your thoughts and prayers for her safety and protection. She needs it. Thanks all...

[Shatril]

((((Energy and Chakra Balancing coming at you))))

[IndigoMoon]

I can't believe that in this day and age, there are people telling you that they can't help you. It makes me so angry. Yeah I am really angry right now. I won't rant about it because I know that you need positive energy right now. So....after I meditate all of this anger away I will light a candle for you and your daughter, and her father. So that they will be safe, and you have the strength to get through this.

[seekerofknwoledge]

i will ask my ladies too keep a close watch on her. i'm sorry that you're going through such a hard time, i hope everything get's better soon.-seeker

[RavensEye]

holy crap still nothing? Lady Jade I really do feel for you and as always I am thinking of you and yoru daughter, please take care ok?

[Little Willow]

Hello luv. I think most people have just said what I'd say myself. Be strong for yourself and your son. Have you been keeping in touch with your mother-in-law? Maybe she has hears news since. My love and energy to you and your daughter.

You said "someone pointed out to me today that this is her thing to go through, her lesson/test if you will. I am affected by it, but she is central to it and how it unfolds. I can only be here to pick up the pieces." They may be right, but it's not an easy thing to accept or even acknowledge. I don't know how I'd cope given the same situation. Stay strong and positive. I know that too is hard, one of your babies is missing and it's natural to fear the worse. I'll light a candle tonight for you. You are in my thoughts and prayers.

[Aleannah]

(((((energy sent)))))

[Lady Jade]

Well, I had an epiphany (sp) last night. I am supposed to use my legal savvy to convince everyone to help me find her. Since I am a paralegal, I can represent myself in any proceeding. So today, I call to make appointments to meet professionally with each involved agency. I'll break out the deadly dress suits and go to work. Now that I am laid off I can put more time into it, force them to see the reality of this situation. Someone will see my point of view surely.

I'll keep you all updated as best I can, for today, my internet will be shut off due to financial difficulties for at least a few weeks. Thank you all for your continued thoughts and prayers. They are helping...

[RavensEye]

You go Lady Jade and keep us posted as to what happens when you cna get back online ok?

[Lady Jade]

Here is the missing flyer with pic:



Name: Alexandra Xavia Septer
Last seen: Marion, Ohio on September 26, 2004
DOB: 10/05/90 age 14
Hair: Dark Brown, long and wavy, usually pulled up
Eyes: Brown
Height: 5’5”
Weight: 220 lbs., heavy build
Race: Caucasian, fair complexion
Identifying marks: tattoo on lower back of 3 peach colored roses

This child is likely accompanied by her father, Gilbert Septer.
Last seen: Marion, Ohio on September 26, 2004
DOB: 09/12/46 age 58
Hair: Dark Brown, balding with long braid in back, goatee/mustache
Eyes: Blue, glasses
Height: 6’0”
Weight: 320 lbs., heavy build
Race: Caucasian, dark complexion
Identifying marks: sword, angel, dragon, and cross tattoos on arms.

They may be in Nevada as that was their stated destination. We have no actual knowledge of their whereabouts at this time. If you have seen these people or their whereabouts, please call 740-387-2525, Officer Cox.

[Lady Jade]

Not much to report. I sent a certified letter (attached) to the local Prosecting Attorney yesterday to see if I could enlist them or not. No phone call, no news...

[dizzydormouse]

Sending all the energies I can.

I am in a similar situation, - my ex has breached our civil custody agreement, and I now haven't seen my 3yo son for 2 1/2wks.
My application for emergency residency goes to court on moday.

If ever you want to talk about stuff mum-to-mum, you can mail me here, or to my personal addy: lillithp@hotmail.com - maybe we can support each other through if you like?


Blessings to you & yours hon! Never give up hope!!

[Shatril]

:heartbrea Breaks my heart to hear this. Hope things get better soon.

[Black RiverWolf]

sending energy love

[9-2-2]

I have read both threads. I will post the flyer and the picture on my website at http://www.angelfire.com/ks2/mortaldeath.

I will also scry for them, hon! If you like, I can give you my results through PM, unless you think it's okay to post them here.

Yeah, why not scry, everyone?! It seems the Universe has sent LAdy Jade a sign that mundane agencies are being a pack of incompetent slobs. Let's whip up some magick!!! _twohorns_

[Lady Jade]

:dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy: ALEX CALLED HOME!!!!!!!! She wouldn't give me an address (just general delivery 89101), but I got her cell phone number and she sounded ok. She says they are living in Las Vegas as expected and have an apartment. At least she is alive and ok!!!! I am going to try to track the cell phone # for an address, but it is prepaid, so maybe that will not work.

Thanks to all your thoughts and prayers and to the Gods for watching over them...they are safe!!!

[Lunacie]

:dancy: :dancy: :dancy: :dancy:


That is wonderful news indeed.

[Shatril]

:bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob :bouncybob
I"m so excited for you. I know that is a relief, maybe not all that you wished for, but a relief none the less.

Shatril.

[soilsigh aingeal]

That's great news! I'm so glad she's OK! Good luck in your next steps!

[magick_faerie]

oh gods, i hope everything comes right for you. my love and light to you and her...what an awful situation

[ObsidianSunrise]

:thewave: :thewave:

Thank the Gods! You have both been on my mind lately! Wonderful news and I am sure you feel better, even though it would be better to know exactly where she is. That will come in good time though. :hugz: :hugz: :hugz:

[DeerWolf]

That's GREAT news. I will continue to pray for you and her. Energy sent>>>>>>:hugz:

[maria-margarita]

OK, here's the original post to go with this energy request:

http://www.mysticwicks.com/showthread.php?t=69566

I have already made a police report, contacted the Salvation Army in Las Vegas, contacted my local children' s services office, contacted the presiding court over the custody issue, and nobody is willing to help me until the court rules on the custody matter which could be several weeks from now. I see my attorney tomorrow to discuss how to proceed on that avenue.

The rest of my personal life is undergoing serious upheaval right now as well, but I don't want to go into those details. The whereabouts of my daughter is of the most importance.

Please send my daughter and her father thoughts of safety and a message to call home.
Please include me in your thoughts, as I am at my wits end.

Thanks!

Lady Jane
You're in my prayers and thoughts.
May child be safe