If you saw someone cheating...

[Arinya]

I just got out of my Japanese class and I swear I saw the girl kitty corner to me and infront of me cheating. I could be wrong...but we were taking a rather hard chapter test and she had one of her worksheets out on her desk and her katakana worksheet was just sitting on her bag on the floor facing her. I could be wrong, but if she was...grr.
So what would you do in this sort of sitution? I could tell the professor but in a college setting getting caught cheating has dire consequences and there is the chance I was wrong which could make me look like a completely mean person. However if I don't...well...sigh. Our professor doesn't grade on a curve so her cheating won't effect me...but still ethically I'm torn.
So what would you do?

[teishabee]

I say best keep out of it.After all the only person she is cheating is herself.And it will show when she doesnt know what the other class do.

[Blair]

Yeah I remember a long time ago (we're going back to elementary school with this one) I was falsely accused of cheating. So I would say stay out of it until you're 100% sure.

[ap Dafydd]

I say best keep out of it.After all the only person she is cheating is herself.And it will show when she doesnt know what the other class do.

I agree. You're not in charge here. If you're not going to suffer an unfair disadvantage, then why worry?

gwyn eich byd

Ffred

[AuroraSilvermist]

The thing that kept coming up in your post was, "I could be wrong...." I'd say that if there's any chance you could be wrong about the cheating, then don't say anything about it. Besides, if the girl is cheating, eventually that practice is going to bite her in the bum. Cheaters rarely pass finals (where it's pretty difficult to cheat), and they certainly don't succeed in the real world. She'll get what's coming to her.

[Vetteman]

Sorry, I agree with everyone else, stay out of it, bad Karma will eventually catch up with her.

_taparoo_

Richard

[banondraig]

agreeing with everyone above. since you're not sure, don't tell. her cheating won't hurt anyone but her, but if you turn her in and it happens you are wrong, then you have severely mucked things up for an innocent person. it's not worth the risk of that.

[Chibi-Fallon]

Yeah, I mean what's in it for you if you tell on her? She might not have been cheating, and if she was. So what? It's Japanese class. And it sounds like you don't even know this girl. Leave the girl alone. If she can cheat and not get caught by the teacher or some overly anal student more power to her.

Although I'm going to have to disagree with you AuroraSilvermist. Cheaters often win, and sometimes become president. ;)

[Acid Halo]

totally agree with everyone here, not your problem.

BTW my instructor in the navy always told me "If you arent cheating, your not trying hard enough."
lol, just a joke.

"Cheaters never win and winners never cheat" haha Enron is proof of that!

[Mindflayer]

As long as she wasn't cheating off of you...stay out of it.

I remember one time some guy in my science class copied my test EXACTLY, the teacher saw this and wanted us to take a retest, or get a 0 for it. He took the retest, I took the 0. I would rather take a 0 than retake a test I had no reason to retake... I wasn't the one cheating.

[dr_zeus440]

youre ethically torn because you saw someone cheat on a test? ok, how can i say this nicely...i recommend that you take a serious interest in existentialism (www.friesian.org/existent.htm) and lose some of those ethics.

[Cielamara]

youre ethically torn because you saw someone cheat on a test? ok, how can i say this nicely...i recommend that you take a serious interest in existentialism (www.friesian.org/existent.htm) and lose some of those ethics.

Um. I'm sorry, but are you implying Arinya is in the wrong for having ethics? That's kinda rude, don't you think? There's nothing wrong with having ethics...nothing at all. She can't just "lose" her ethics. It doesn't work that way. They are a part of her, and to tell her to "lose" them is like telling someone to lose their natural eye color or natural body type because it's somehow "wrong"...that's just ridiculous. There is nothing narrow-minded about someone feeling bad because they saw someone else cheating. Nothing at all. I would suggest you take a serious interest in taking some time to consider how other people might feel in certain situations.
That being said...Arinya, do what your heart tells you to. If your gut instinct tells you that you need to act on this...follow it. Otherwise...since college is tough enough as it is...leave well enough alone. :) Best of luck to you.

[teishabee]

Did you read the article? Cielamara. I dont think he was being rude.

[Arinya]

youre ethically torn because you saw someone cheat on a test? ok, how can i say this nicely...i recommend that you take a serious interest in existentialism (www.friesian.org/existent.htm) and lose some of those ethics.

Hahahah! Oh, oh that's cute! NO Really, that's cute!
_handclapp If you really want to offend me you have to do better then that.

You don't want me to be sooo ethically torn? Well, how's this. I was far more pissed off then ethically torn. I do all this work to hopefully slide by with a B on a test and this girl just whips out her worksheet and starts copying everything down and the professor doesn't even notice. Kind of annoying.
I'm agreeing with everyone else, I'm not going to say a word to anyone about her cheating. Why not? Shrug, why bother?

Oh, and here's a question for you Dr. Zeus. If you saw someone cheating on a test for a class which your professor graded on a curve (so yes, this means it WOULD have an effect on you) would you say something about it? In other words, and oh, I don't know how to say this nicely so I'll just say it, do you have light-switch ethics? Turn them on when help you or turn them off when they don't? Or is it that you just don't have any at all?

[Black RiverWolf]

I have to agree stay out of it. If you don't really know what was going on your better off. let Karma bite her in the arse.

[Arinya]

Did you read the article? Cielamara. I dont think he was being rude.

If he was or if he wasn't i don't really care personally. I still think it's cute!
Oh, and I didn't read the article nor am I going too. A.) because I already know what existentialism is and B.) because I have enough work to be doing I really don't have time to play you slap me, I slap you with him.
:bug: It's maddness enough around here anyway!

[teishabee]

If he was or if he wasn't i don't really care personally. I still think it's cute!
Oh, and I didn't read the article nor am I going too. A.) because I already know what existentialism is and B.) because I have enough work to be doing I really don't have time to play you slap me, I slap you with him.
:bug: It's maddness enough around here anyway!Me just the dumbass then. :whistle:

If you dont have time for the responses, you shouldnt ask for answers.........:vamp:

[Dusk]

Where was the professor during the exam?

[HolographicJoe]

It's not your problem, don't worry about it.

[Arinya]

Me just the dumbass then. :whistle:

If you dont have time for the responses, you shouldnt ask for answers.........:vamp:

I do have time for responses. I just don't have enough time to read an article that long, that's all. I opened the article to read it, I had a full intention too until I saw it's length and decided I ought to prioritze studying for my history exam a little higher then a random link from some guy about a topic I already know about.

[Arinya]

Where was the professor during the exam?

On the computer. She was there, she just wasn't watching that's all.

[Shanti]

Squeel like a pig!! LOl JK!!!!!!!


No, seriously, ethics are emotion driven and it obviously bothers you. What you can do is talk to the teach!! Tell him you are not sure and dont want to falsly accuse, but you are suspisious. He can keep an eye on her and catch her himself.

Just an idea! :)

[Arinya]

Squeel like a pig!! LOl JK!!!!!!!


No, seriously, ethics are emotion driven and it obviously bothers you. What you can do is talk to the teach!! Tell him you are not sure and dont want to falsly accuse, but you are suspisious. He can keep an eye on her and catch her himself.

Just an idea! :)

Thanks Shanti :hugz:
But I've already decided just to stay out of it. It's not my problem so bah to her about it.

[Phoenix Blue]

So what would you do in this sort of sitution? I could tell the professor but in a college setting getting caught cheating has dire consequences and there is the chance I was wrong which could make me look like a completely mean person. However if I don't...well...sigh. Our professor doesn't grade on a curve so her cheating won't effect me...but still ethically I'm torn.
Why? You seem to know what the right thing to do is. :) Just tell the professor what you saw without leading to any conclusions and let him take the matter from there.

People who cheat in college will cheat in the real world as well. Think, "Jayson Blair." She needs to learn that she'll be held to the same rules as everyone else.

[Phoenix Blue]

Me just the dumbass then. :whistle:

If you dont have time for the responses, you shouldnt ask for answers.........:vamp:
Or people could give answers in manners that are relevant without being rude.

[mara]

I knew that a bunch of younger students were cheating when I was in college..it made me mad because I worked hard for my grades, and they got the same grade by cheating..I didn't say anything- it actually never entered my mind to, but it upset me quite a bit.

[halfwaynowhere]

cheating really doesn't affect anybody but herself, unless the teacher grades on a curve, and then it could affect others. Anyways, she won't know how to do it in the end, and it will be her fault that she took the easy way out. People don't realize that grades don't matter. They don't measure how much you know, only how well you perform.

[Faerin]

Hmmm...

How about talking to the girl who was cheating? Tell her that you saw what she did and it's been bothering you. Perhaps you can ask her if she wants help studying? Not to say it's ok what she did, but I would like to think that some good can come out of a nasty situation. Maybe if you approach her in a helpful way, she'll realize that her actions were wrong and start taking the class seriously. It's worth a shot in my opinion.

[9-2-2]

I consider taking the reigns of someone else's life in my own hands to be a foolish thing to do. If it was traumatically harmful, yeah, I'd squeal. If it's something stupid like cheating, forget about it. It's not worth my time nor energy to police over the silly actions of others. :)

[Yvonne Belisle]

You could always ask her if she needs help in class. That could give you a study buddy which can often help raise your own grades. Even an A can be made easier to get.

[nomadicdragon]

*shrugs* It's their business not mine. Their concious not mine. I try to worry about my own morality and not worry about others.

[witchsmacked]

I just got out of my Japanese class and I swear I saw the girl kitty corner to me and infront of me cheating. I could be wrong...but we were taking a rather hard chapter test and she had one of her worksheets out on her desk and her katakana worksheet was just sitting on her bag on the floor facing her. I could be wrong, but if she was...grr.
So what would you do in this sort of sitution? I could tell the professor but in a college setting getting caught cheating has dire consequences and there is the chance I was wrong which could make me look like a completely mean person. However if I don't...well...sigh. Our professor doesn't grade on a curve so her cheating won't effect me...but still ethically I'm torn.
So what would you do?

This happened to me about three weeks or so ago. The girl right NEXT to me in Anthropology was sneaking her notes out of her bag and cheating on the test. I wasn't sure what to do because it was shocking to me. I had never actually witnessed people outright cheating. The desks are extremely close in the classroom, so I couldn't NOT miss it. I sort of turned my back towards her, finished my test and left.

When we got them back, I managed a 78 (studying my ass off) and she got a 98. It angered me, and as much as I wanted to tell the professor, it would essentially be her word against mine. She said something along the lines that she was happy because she would lose her scholarship if she didn't keep her grades up.

It saddens me that people will resort to cheating. Even when I'm the most unprepared I can be for a test, I have never thought about cheating. I can't imagine justifying it for any reason.

Anyway, it will be a she said-she said thing, so let karma do its work and bite her in the ass somewhere down the line.

[DraconisArcanus]

Trust in Karma. If she is cheating the Universe will make sure she gets what's coming to her and if not you have harmed none. Best to keep out of it for now but if I saw her do it again, I might confront her about it before I spoke to anyone else.

Peace!

[Phoenix Blue]

This happened to me about three weeks or so ago. The girl right NEXT to me in Anthropology was sneaking her notes out of her bag and cheating on the test. I wasn't sure what to do because it was shocking to me. I had never actually witnessed people outright cheating. The desks are extremely close in the classroom, so I couldn't NOT miss it. I sort of turned my back towards her, finished my test and left.
See, I'd have been of half a mind to call her out right then and there. **Shrugs and smiles**